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For the First Time since the French Revolution, no Christmas midnight Mass at Notre Dame in Paris

 
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Nôtre Dame was an inside job.

As in, LITERALLY, the fire started on the inside, and the job was to put up scaffolding to restore it. Fortunately no one was "fired."
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Fuck you if you think it wasn't an accident. The Bible says Jesus hates conspiracy theorists.
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President Macron instructed prosecutors to investigate an accident before the fire was even fully extinguished.

According to French law, since the building belongs to the state, no criminal probe can be launched unless there is a formal complaint filed.

With no loss of life, an no insurance policy since it was a state-owned building, the prosecutor is bound to the limits imposed by the executive, meaning no criminal elements can be considered.
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no one would want to target crhistian monuments come on who would do that in france
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Nôtre Dame was an inside job.

As in, LITERALLY, the fire started on the inside, and the job was to put up scaffolding to restore it. Fortunately no one was "fired."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78126769


Fuck you if you think it wasn't an accident. The Bible says Jesus hates conspiracy theorists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77200818


President Macron instructed prosecutors to investigate an accident before the fire was even fully extinguished.

According to French law, since the building belongs to the state, no criminal probe can be launched unless there is a formal complaint filed.

With no loss of life, an no insurance policy since it was a state-owned building, the prosecutor is bound to the limits imposed by the executive, meaning no criminal elements can be considered.
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How convenient...

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Nôtre Dame was an inside job.

As in, LITERALLY, the fire started on the inside, and the job was to put up scaffolding to restore it. Fortunately no one was "fired."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78126769


Fuck you if you think it wasn't an accident. The Bible says Jesus hates conspiracy theorists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77200818


President Macron instructed prosecutors to investigate an accident before the fire was even fully extinguished.

According to French law, since the building belongs to the state, no criminal probe can be launched unless there is a formal complaint filed.

With no loss of life, an no insurance policy since it was a state-owned building, the prosecutor is bound to the limits imposed by the executive, meaning no criminal elements can be considered.
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no one would want to target crhistian monuments come on who would do that in france
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And pray tell as just who in da world would decry the christian ?
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The large timber pillars composing the roof were unique, nearly-petrified oak logs cut in the 12th and 13th centuries. Those trees started growing around the time of Charlemagne, 800-900 A.D.

Few solid wood structures survive from that time. Wood of that age is extremely difficult to ignite without an accelerating product of some kind.

The speed and intensity of the fire support that theory.

While cathedral fires are relatively common throughout history, the cause of them has generally been pinpointed.

However in Notre Dame, the source remains a mystery all these months later.
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How are these people NOT in prison? It's a disgrace
and makes the American people look like a bunch of
wusses for NOT going after them. I had no idea that
Mrs. Michael Obama drank champagne with the reflection
of Notre Dam BURNING in her wine glass.

Weizersink
"...That image makes my tummy hurt ...and I think
I'm going to PUKE."


Very sad news.

O'sCookie
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...in prison for drinking champagne? You're blinded by your biases. Obama did the job he was placed in office to do...make everyone forget about all of the treason that took place while Bush Jr. was in office...I can guarantee he wouldn't be so despised if he were caucasian...
 Quoting: Baal Molech


I gaurantee a caucasian wouldnt have done it.
Thanks for making a point of that fundamental, basic and very important difference.
One would think a bunch of evil or despicably stupid satan voters would try to downplay.
Exactly. No-business-in-offices-or-voting. Barely compis mentis.
 Quoting: Timur2020



...you are obviously incapable of seeing passed propaganda. You, for some reason, think Barack Obama came out of no where and took over the government of the world's most powerful nation...yet think Trump is here to "drain the swamp"...Barack is a scapegoat for ignorant people to hate...he's not that powerful, and for you to think he is shows your lack of intellect...
 Quoting: Baal Molech

epiclol
for all your supposed knowledge and "how it really is" you aren't seeing and that's a blessing for us all. "Satan" led his people and his people followed. Simple as that.
Every satan voter, including some really wretched white women that should all be pitched in the street for the revolting jezebels and lilliths they are, has proudly recorded for all and ever that they are the army of the father of lies and their opposition to anything right because of all their wrong
cruise
Gee how hard was it to separate the pure and stupid losership?
"Hey everybody! A cho mo with a fake name that means "satan come as lightning" is gonna be an illegitimate us president and make white people buy you a flatscreen!"
- knew he was a fraud, did-not-matter
- knew he was at the very bottom of social degeneracy and lethal influence, did-not-matter
- knew all the bullshi* in ferguson was a paid for show, did-not-matter
- know what lgbtqp really are and probably the MOST unforgivable and revolting thing of all, knows what goes on and with kids annnnd did-not-matter.

There's no snarking or lies to fruit around that and if every one of satans voters dropped dead tonight, it would undeniably be the miracle this country needs and justice would finally truly be served.
I think all the satan voters professed treason for communism IN ACT, in fact, when they "proudly" pushed that satan button, not once, but twice and for my part, should all be hung or shot. Just that simple. Voted satan boom.
Since that would be good too good to be true, I doubt it will happen and piles of birth mistake and creature from the previous cannibal creation going to be around for awhile and such is the worlds tragedy.
epiclol

Last Edited by Timur2020 on 12/22/2019 07:40 PM
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What are the odds Mike is there, on a river cruise sipping wine with the reflection of Notre Dame burning in his glass while wearing a “becoming” necklace looking completely unfazed by the event?



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 Quoting: ~kpm~


Exactly my thoughts. Mooch is making a statement that she/he/it will 'Be Coming' onto the World Stage.

I am Catholic to the death, and for those of you mired in anti-catholic hatred but claim yet to be Christian, you better take stock of yourself and what is REALLY going on in this world. Catholics are the epitome of Christian, and devil's intent is to divide.

If you fail to see Satan's handiwork in the pedophilia, the burning of Catholic churches, the hatred toward Catholics, and the horror of the current imposter claiming the chair of St. Peter, then you are part and parcel of the destruction.

Merry Christmas.
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The large timber pillars composing the roof were unique, nearly-petrified oak logs cut in the 12th and 13th centuries. Those trees started growing around the time of Charlemagne, 800-900 A.D.

Few solid wood structures survive from that time. Wood of that age is extremely difficult to ignite without an accelerating product of some kind.

The speed and intensity of the fire support that theory.

While cathedral fires are relatively common throughout history, the cause of them has generally been pinpointed.

However in Notre Dame, the source remains a mystery all these months later.
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it was an accident the TV said so plus no one ever would burn a religous bulding and christians are repsected in europe big time
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The day after the fire all the French radio stations were asking for donations - give as much as you can afford! (play to emotions)

Large donors were announced - hundreds of millions pledged!

Turns out ... not so much. Only the small individual donors were billed. Large contributors never actually went through with their promises. Biggest donors were from the US.

I'm sure it's just coincidental that all the French radio and TV channels were focused on donations, and all the callers and guests selected to speak were all talking about how much they would give, and no one said maybe we should investigate what happened before giving large sums of money to the state.

*coincidence*
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Nôtre Dame was an inside job.

As in, LITERALLY, the fire started on the inside, and the job was to put up scaffolding to restore it. Fortunately no one was "fired."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78126769


Fuck you if you think it wasn't an accident. The Bible says Jesus hates conspiracy theorists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77200818


President Macron instructed prosecutors to investigate an accident before the fire was even fully extinguished.

According to French law, since the building belongs to the state, no criminal probe can be launched unless there is a formal complaint filed.

With no loss of life, an no insurance policy since it was a state-owned building, the prosecutor is bound to the limits imposed by the executive, meaning no criminal elements can be considered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77414965


no one would want to target crhistian monuments come on who would do that in france
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77813013


And you were born like yesterday...?
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What are the odds Mike is there, on a river cruise sipping wine with the reflection of Notre Dame burning in his glass while wearing a “becoming” necklace looking completely unfazed by the event?



.
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Exactly my thoughts. Mooch is making a statement that she/he/it will 'Be Coming' onto the World Stage.

I am Catholic to theIR death, and for those of you mired in anti-catholic hatred but claim yet to be Christian, you better take stock of yourself and what is REALLY going on in this world. Catholics are the epitome of Christian, and devil's intent is to divide.

If you fail to see Satan's handiwork in the pedophilia, the burning of Catholic churches, the hatred toward Catholics, and the horror of the current imposter claiming the chair of St. Peter, then you are part and parcel of the destruction.

Merry Christmas.
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The biggest, readiest faith army there is, because evangelicals are a kindergarden that has to be led and very likely to be traitors because of the child-with-angry-issues plenty of them are. Catholics are still a church of the fit....evangos are a church of last minute "feelings" pass that would not come to church unless it was a kindergarden therapy session!

No, the natives and the US catholics are all on the conservative side...except of course the "kennedy catholics"
:african:
more important than anybody cuddle up the babies! Earth is this giant stinky nursery!
cruise

Last Edited by Timur2020 on 12/22/2019 07:51 PM
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I gaurantee a caucasian wouldnt have done it.
Thanks for making a point of that fundamental, basic and very important difference.
One would think a bunch of evil or despicably stupid satan voters would try to downplay.
Exactly. No-business-in-offices-or-voting. Barely compis mentis.
 Quoting: Timur2020



...you are obviously incapable of seeing passed propaganda. You, for some reason, think Barack Obama came out of no where and took over the government of the world's most powerful nation...yet think Trump is here to "drain the swamp"...Barack is a scapegoat for ignorant people to hate...he's not that powerful, and for you to think he is shows your lack of intellect...
 Quoting: Baal Molech

Obama was "installed".
Trump upset their apple cart, as Hillary was the destined one.
Trump Trumped them and the are PISSED.

They want to think they control it all, but the arrogant
fuckers missed just enough for Trump to Trump them.

PISSED is not strong enough as to their venom.

trumpfu
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...Trump was also "installed"..you'll find out soon enough...
 Quoting: Baal Molech

We know? It is you I think who will be finding out and not soon enough, some of US have been waiting 50 years....for a simple thing....but money money money first
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too.

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Fuck you if you think it wasn't an accident. The Bible says Jesus hates conspiracy theorists.
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President Macron instructed prosecutors to investigate an accident before the fire was even fully extinguished.

According to French law, since the building belongs to the state, no criminal probe can be launched unless there is a formal complaint filed.

With no loss of life, an no insurance policy since it was a state-owned building, the prosecutor is bound to the limits imposed by the executive, meaning no criminal elements can be considered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77414965


no one would want to target crhistian monuments come on who would do that in france
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77813013


And you were born like yesterday...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78273440


france is safest for christians come on wake up better than usa or isreal church shootings bombings and stuff
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Six pages of hatred so far.

Because a midnight mass will not be celebrated because of a fire.g

Perhaps, if God's people would humble themselves and pray...

Nevermind
 Quoting: Visitor 78037273


Appeasement or laying down to let evil infested ideologically
driven creatures slay you is not a good program in my book.

Do as you wish, enjoy an early afterlife, contribute nothing
to the advancement of reason and civility.

Knock yourself out.

Oh yeah, your condescension is noted. Thank you.
Move along now.

:bf125:
 Quoting: Trained Noticer

Just don't do your killing under the guise of feigned Christianity.

Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

...

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; ... For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?
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The day after the fire all the French radio stations were asking for donations - give as much as you can afford! (play to emotions)

Large donors were announced - hundreds of millions pledged!

Turns out ... not so much. Only the small individual donors were billed. Large contributors never actually went through with their promises. Biggest donors were from the US.

I'm sure it's just coincidental that all the French radio and TV channels were focused on donations, and all the callers and guests selected to speak were all talking about how much they would give, and no one said maybe we should investigate what happened before giving large sums of money to the state.

*coincidence*
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BUT YOU SAYING SOME HUMAN ENTITY HAS FORESAKEN GOD'S WILL AND DESTROYED THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD
AND ONLY HE AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON CAN CLAIM THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN FROM THE HEATHENS
SO THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMON HAS BECOME UNSULLIED AND FORGOTTEN IN THE EYES OF THE LAMB
AND JESUS ROSE TO CONFRONT THOSE WHO WERE UNJUST IN THEIR WAYS
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Good thing the French don't mind getting a thorough poking in the derrière while their Rothschild-friendly fuckstick-in-chief rapes his way through countless Caribbean prepubescent nubile males, all the while decimating their pensions and circumsizing their annual salaries and giving the rest to his pre-ordained select holy few protegés ... to be continued in 2020 ...
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The large timber pillars composing the roof were unique, nearly-petrified oak logs cut in the 12th and 13th centuries. Those trees started growing around the time of Charlemagne, 800-900 A.D.

Few solid wood structures survive from that time. Wood of that age is extremely difficult to ignite without an accelerating product of some kind.

The speed and intensity of the fire support that theory.

While cathedral fires are relatively common throughout history, the cause of them has generally been pinpointed.

However in Notre Dame, the source remains a mystery all these months later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76406575


thank you for this detailed and clear take.


we at least know why it remains a mystery - that is NOT a mystery!

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While the fact bears noting that Notre Dame did not falter in holding Christmas services through 2 world wars, and centuries of time..


I take exception to the word "accidental" in describing the Notre Dame fire this year.


there is zero proof of that.


from the article:

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"This is the first time since the French Revolution that there will be no midnight Mass (at Notre Dame)," cathedral rector Patrick Chauvet told The Associated Press.

There was even a Christmas service amid the carnage of World War I, Chauvet noted, "because the canons were there and the canons had to celebrate somewhere," referring to the cathedral's clergy. During World War II, when Paris was under Nazi occupation, "there was no problem." He said that to his knowledge, it was only closed for Christmas in the period after 1789, when the anti-Catholic French revolutionaries turned the monument into "a temple of reason."
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Maybe after we fix Santa up, we will work on this.
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Saint Sulpice was burnt the Sunday before, right at the end of Mass, 12.00 noon at the start of the grand Organ recital.

Big flames. Tourists calling to the rescue.
Fire crews arrived no more than 5 minutes later.

It was recognized by authorities that the fire was intentional.

Saint Sulpice >> Da Vinci Code (Dan Brown novel)

burnit
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bump
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Good thing the French don't mind getting a thorough poking in the derrière while their Rothschild-friendly fuckstick-in-chief rapes his way through countless Caribbean prepubescent nubile males, all the while decimating their pensions and circumsizing their annual salaries and giving the rest to his pre-ordained select holy few protegés ... to be continued in 2020 ...
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only sounds disrespectful if you are a complete douche
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President Macron instructed prosecutors to investigate an accident before the fire was even fully extinguished.

According to French law, since the building belongs to the state, no criminal probe can be launched unless there is a formal complaint filed.

With no loss of life, an no insurance policy since it was a state-owned building, the prosecutor is bound to the limits imposed by the executive, meaning no criminal elements can be considered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77414965


no one would want to target crhistian monuments come on who would do that in france
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77813013


And you were born like yesterday...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78273440


france is safest for christians come on wake up better than usa or isreal church shootings bombings and stuff
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Just what are the chances. Two people born just yesterday on one thread. Really.

My blessings to all and anight. Anight. hiding
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Six pages of hatred so far.

Because a midnight mass will not be celebrated because of a fire.g

Perhaps, if God's people would humble themselves and pray...

Nevermind
 Quoting: Visitor 78037273


Appeasement or laying down to let evil infested ideologically
driven creatures slay you is not a good program in my book.

Do as you wish, enjoy an early afterlife, contribute nothing
to the advancement of reason and civility.

Knock yourself out.

Oh yeah, your condescension is noted. Thank you.
Move along now.

bf125
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Just don't do your killing under the guise of feigned Christianity.

Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

...

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; ... For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?
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Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

willis
IDK what the hell you are babbling about.

Psycho, I guess. I insinuated nothing of the sort of
killing anyone. Projection? IDK.

You also must have missed the part where I acknowledged your
snotty superior condescension, and gave you credit for
being a snide self centered self righteous jerk, and then
did not make a big deal out of it.

You must be a miserable individual. Sorry for you.

Enjoy your self inflicted miserable Christmas.

We will enjoy our beautiful Christmas, yet again.

agtre
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While the fact bears noting that Notre Dame did not falter in holding Christmas services through 2 world wars, and centuries of time..


I take exception to the word "accidental" in describing the Notre Dame fire this year.


there is zero proof of that.


from the article:

[link to www.hotsr.com (secure)]


"This is the first time since the French Revolution that there will be no midnight Mass (at Notre Dame)," cathedral rector Patrick Chauvet told The Associated Press.

There was even a Christmas service amid the carnage of World War I, Chauvet noted, "because the canons were there and the canons had to celebrate somewhere," referring to the cathedral's clergy. During World War II, when Paris was under Nazi occupation, "there was no problem." He said that to his knowledge, it was only closed for Christmas in the period after 1789, when the anti-Catholic French revolutionaries turned the monument into "a temple of reason."
 Quoting: beeches


Maybe after we fix Santa up, we will work on this.
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I would ask for posting skills first
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A politician like Macron, veiws them as potential voters. Also would like to be praised as charitable and philanthropic, by admitting them in as refugees. Taking advantage of the myriad asylum laws, and loopholes present in a democracy.

This is a critical difference between a King and a Politician.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78171793



More specifically, it's the difference between idiotic, cunning, inhumane liberalism/leftism and sane, sensible, compassionate conservatism/rightism.

Europe and North America are going through a 21st-century version of the misery-inducing, ruthless, violent, mean-spirited Cultural Revolution of 1960s ultra-liberal China and ultra-liberal Mao Tse-tung.

The Maos/Stalins/Hitlers/Castros/Maduros of the world are saying: Welcome to the club.

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There is no doubt that the French and British, are the pioneers of democracy, socialism & leftism.

However, lets not forget that it was conservative, right-leaning Republican, Ronald Reagan, who first set the dangerous precedent of giving amnesty to illegal immigrants, in America.

He was also an actor & entertainer.

So the main problem your are facing today, is not specifically leftism or rightism, but an unholy combination of:

DEMOCRACY + ARTS/ENTERTAINMENT + BIG-BUSINESS

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A politician like Macron, veiws them as potential voters. Also would like to be praised as charitable and philanthropic, by admitting them in as refugees. Taking advantage of the myriad asylum laws, and loopholes present in a democracy.

This is a critical difference between a King and a Politician.
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78171793



More specifically, it's the difference between idiotic, cunning, inhumane liberalism/leftism and sane, sensible, compassionate conservatism/rightism.

Europe and North America are going through a 21st-century version of the misery-inducing, ruthless, violent, mean-spirited Cultural Revolution of 1960s ultra-liberal China and ultra-liberal Mao Tse-tung.

The Maos/Stalins/Hitlers/Castros/Maduros of the world are saying: Welcome to the club.

.
 Quoting: CSnow


There is no doubt that the French and British, are the pioneers of democracy, socialism & leftism.

However, lets not forget that it was conservative, right-leaning Republican, Ronald Reagan, who first set the dangerous precedent of giving amnesty to illegal immigrants, in America.

He was also an actor & entertainer.

So the main problem your are facing today, is not specifically leftism or rightism, but an unholy combination of:

DEMOCRACY + ARTS/ENTERTAINMENT + BIG-BUSINESS

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Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell
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Re: For the First Time since the French Revolution, no Christmas midnight Mass at Notre Dame in Paris
A politician like Macron, veiws them as potential voters. Also would like to be praised as charitable and philanthropic, by admitting them in as refugees. Taking advantage of the myriad asylum laws, and loopholes present in a democracy.

This is a critical difference between a King and a Politician.
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More specifically, it's the difference between idiotic, cunning, inhumane liberalism/leftism and sane, sensible, compassionate conservatism/rightism.

Europe and North America are going through a 21st-century version of the misery-inducing, ruthless, violent, mean-spirited Cultural Revolution of 1960s ultra-liberal China and ultra-liberal Mao Tse-tung.

The Maos/Stalins/Hitlers/Castros/Maduros of the world are saying: Welcome to the club.

.
 Quoting: CSnow


There is no doubt that the French and British, are the pioneers of democracy, socialism & leftism.

However, lets not forget that it was conservative, right-leaning Republican, Ronald Reagan, who first set the dangerous precedent of giving amnesty to illegal immigrants, in America.

He was also an actor & entertainer.

So the main problem your are facing today, is not specifically leftism or rightism, but an unholy combination of:

DEMOCRACY + ARTS/ENTERTAINMENT + BIG-BUSINESS

.
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Politics is show business for ugly people...
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Butt, butt, butt.... We are CUTE!
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Six pages of hatred so far.

Because a midnight mass will not be celebrated because of a fire.g

Perhaps, if God's people would humble themselves and pray...

Nevermind
 Quoting: Visitor 78037273


Appeasement or laying down to let evil infested ideologically
driven creatures slay you is not a good program in my book.

Do as you wish, enjoy an early afterlife, contribute nothing
to the advancement of reason and civility.

Knock yourself out.

Oh yeah, your condescension is noted. Thank you.
Move along now.

:bf125:
 Quoting: Trained Noticer

Just don't do your killing under the guise of feigned Christianity.

Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

...

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; ... For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?
 Quoting: Visitor 78037273


Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

:willis:
IDK what the hell you are babbling about.

Psycho, I guess. I insinuated nothing of the sort of
killing anyone. Projection? IDK.

You also must have missed the part where I acknowledged your
snotty superior condescension, and gave you credit for
being a snide self centered self righteous jerk, and then
did not make a big deal out of it.

You must be a miserable individual. Sorry for you.

Enjoy your self inflicted miserable Christmas.

We will enjoy our beautiful Christmas, yet again.

:agtre:
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


I did not miss a thing. Your thinly veiled insults were very obvious.

I'm sure your resistance to the Muslim invasion of France has been servant prayer to God for deliverance.

Enjoy your secular Christmas.

Some actually celebrate the birth of Jesus, who commanded his disciples to love and not hate.
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A politician like Macron, veiws them as potential voters. Also would like to be praised as charitable and philanthropic, by admitting them in as refugees. Taking advantage of the myriad asylum laws, and loopholes present in a democracy.

This is a critical difference between a King and a Politician.
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78171793



More specifically, it's the difference between idiotic, cunning, inhumane liberalism/leftism and sane, sensible, compassionate conservatism/rightism.

Europe and North America are going through a 21st-century version of the misery-inducing, ruthless, violent, mean-spirited Cultural Revolution of 1960s ultra-liberal China and ultra-liberal Mao Tse-tung.

The Maos/Stalins/Hitlers/Castros/Maduros of the world are saying: Welcome to the club.

.
 Quoting: CSnow


There is no doubt that the French and British, are the pioneers of democracy, socialism & leftism.

However, lets not forget that it was conservative, right-leaning Republican, Ronald Reagan, who first set the dangerous precedent of giving amnesty to illegal immigrants, in America.

He was also an actor & entertainer.

So the main problem your are facing today, is not specifically leftism or rightism, but an unholy combination of:

DEMOCRACY + ARTS/ENTERTAINMENT + BIG-BUSINESS

.
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Politics is show business for ugly people...
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The best Politicians are excellent actors.

Glib and syrupy talks, false smiles, kissing babies, shaking hands and other general buffoonery, to fool the "people".

Anyone, who is expecting a beta-male Politician, to stop the illegal immigrants, will be dissapointed.

It needa an alpha-male like a King to do it.

Trump while not a King, has some alpha-male characteristics, which is why he is against immigration.

However, his political compulsons, like the necessity of winning votes in a democracy, and projecting a nice-guy image, hampers his anti-immigration efforts considerably.

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...


Appeasement or laying down to let evil infested ideologically
driven creatures slay you is not a good program in my book.

Do as you wish, enjoy an early afterlife, contribute nothing
to the advancement of reason and civility.

Knock yourself out.

Oh yeah, your condescension is noted. Thank you.
Move along now.

bf125
 Quoting: Trained Noticer

Just don't do your killing under the guise of feigned Christianity.

Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

...

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; ... For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?
 Quoting: Visitor 78037273


Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

willis
IDK what the hell you are babbling about.

Psycho, I guess. I insinuated nothing of the sort of
killing anyone. Projection? IDK.

You also must have missed the part where I acknowledged your
snotty superior condescension, and gave you credit for
being a snide self centered self righteous jerk, and then
did not make a big deal out of it.

You must be a miserable individual. Sorry for you.

Enjoy your self inflicted miserable Christmas.

We will enjoy our beautiful Christmas, yet again.

agtre
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


I did not miss a thing. Your thinly veiled insults were very obvious.

I'm sure your resistance to the Muslim invasion of France has been servant prayer to God for deliverance.

Enjoy your secular Christmas.

Some actually celebrate the birth of Jesus, who commanded his disciples to love and not hate.
 Quoting: Visitor 78037273


Christ wielded a mean hand in overturning the moneychangers' tables.

to all things there is a season.... Ecclesiastes says so, Kohelet in Hebrew

this is the season for defending Christianity
Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell
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...


Appeasement or laying down to let evil infested ideologically
driven creatures slay you is not a good program in my book.

Do as you wish, enjoy an early afterlife, contribute nothing
to the advancement of reason and civility.

Knock yourself out.

Oh yeah, your condescension is noted. Thank you.
Move along now.

bf125
 Quoting: Trained Noticer

Just don't do your killing under the guise of feigned Christianity.

Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

...

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; ... For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?
 Quoting: Visitor 78037273


Just own your hatred and need kill someone, anyone, for your ideology.

willis
IDK what the hell you are babbling about.

Psycho, I guess. I insinuated nothing of the sort of
killing anyone. Projection? IDK.

You also must have missed the part where I acknowledged your
snotty superior condescension, and gave you credit for
being a snide self centered self righteous jerk, and then
did not make a big deal out of it.

You must be a miserable individual. Sorry for you.

Enjoy your self inflicted miserable Christmas.

We will enjoy our beautiful Christmas, yet again.

agtre
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


I did not miss a thing. Your thinly veiled insults were very obvious.

I'm sure your resistance to the Muslim invasion of France has been servant prayer to God for deliverance.

Enjoy your secular Christmas.

Some actually celebrate the birth of Jesus, who commanded his disciples to love and not hate.
 Quoting: Visitor 78037273


So perceptive that you grasped the meaning without me having
to be nasty. Nice.

IDK what you were trying to say about the Muslime invasion
of France, I will guess auto correct screwed it up for you.

Just guessing, then I'll say
The Muslime invasion of all countries is an abomination.

Your preposition that I should love it and not hate it is
illogical and absurd.

Your assumption that I have a Secular Christmas is yours,
and yours alone. You have no way of knowing, and you are
just throwing out BS.

You, however, have expressed your disdain and misery of the season, so waller away.

It changes my Christmas not one iota.

Merry Christmas. I hope it gets better for you.

agtreepres
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