My Christmas gift to you: Research that should have been declassed long ago

A person couldn't "drown quietly" if they tried. Involuntary survival reflexes would kick in.

Consider the ramifications and larger world uses for the research, and then look around you.

Don't mean to sound trite but have tried any PTSD healing modalities?

Like the glp of old. Op....thank you for this and Merry Christmas. I want to ask questions but I will later

We used to say the same about people not submitting to an authority telling them to injure another innocent person.

I know it is difficult to accept that research is anything but thoroughly vetted and ethical, but there is no ethics board requirement on Department of Defense research.

Also, while arguing everything may be helpful for your own psychological insulation and well being, it may be time to set that aside and look at the bigger picture.

Consider the ramifications and larger world uses for the research, and then look around you.

I free dive. I spend a lot of time in the water holding my breath.

When the body needs oxygen, there's no greater urgency known. You simply cannot relax when your body is screaming for air.

IMPOSSIBLE

This isn't the Milgram's experiment. It's the next stage up. And so are the ramifications.

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Most of us know about the Milgram experiment, done by a psychologist at Yale University named Stanley Milgram, research on conflict between obedience to authority and personal conscience.

The result was people who were quite happy to administer what they thought were lethal levels of electricity to other subjects, as long as they were being told to do so by an authority figure.

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Just like the Milgram experiment, this research has its roots at Yale, where it was being conducted in a later period between the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Instead of testing to see if participants would kill another person when asked to by authority, this experiment tested to see if a person would die willingly if told to do so by authority.

The participants were told they were going to die in the experiment and that they had two choices. They could go quietly and willingly, and as a reward they would be revived. They were told if they fought, then they would not be revived.

Participants were completely submerged in a small therapeutic pool. A plastic sheet was then pulled over the surface of the water leaving no room for air. It was at this point that they had the option of willingly drowning without struggle, or struggling to free themselves.

Many of the participants chose to drown quietly. They were rewarded for their efforts by being pulled from the water and revived after, with CPR and medical intervention. There was a non-survival rate due to the severity of the nature of the experiment.

While national security is important, and this type of research - while not always pleasant - is done with it in mind, there are times when it is reasonable to assume they are crossing a line between traditional warfare and something much more deeply concerning.

Merry Christmas from the cleanup crew.
Don't say I never gave you anything.

Absolutely impossible. Milgram and also the Stanford Prison experiment brought huge reforms to the types of psychological experiments that can be done. Universities today can’t even come close to doing anything like those 2 experiments did. The government is the only one who could potentially do such a test. The fact you said Yale was involved makes this BS.