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German lifestyles must change to help protect climate

 
Ostria1

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German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Climate change would demand sacrifices of Germans.

"We have faced major challenges in history"
If you want to protect the climate, you have to change your consumer behavior. Climate protection is not for free.

Germans will have to change their lifestyles, cutting back on holidays and paying a real price to master the challenge of climate change, the speaker of Germany’s parliament Wolfgang Schaeuble said on Tuesday.

“We will have to change our lives,” Schaeuble told the Neue Osnabruecker Zeitung newspaper. “It’s certainly a great pleasure to fly off to the Maldives or visit Venice. But in future we will have to indulge that pleasure more sparingly.”

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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Goes for all humans.
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Climate change would demand sacrifices of Germans.

"We have faced major challenges in history"
If you want to protect the climate, you have to change your consumer behavior. Climate protection is not for free.

Germans will have to change their lifestyles, cutting back on holidays and paying a real price to master the challenge of climate change, the speaker of Germany’s parliament Wolfgang Schaeuble said on Tuesday.

“We will have to change our lives,” Schaeuble told the Neue Osnabruecker Zeitung newspaper. “It’s certainly a great pleasure to fly off to the Maldives or visit Venice. But in future we will have to indulge that pleasure more sparingly.”

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 Quoting: Ostria1


what tripe the Germans spout

the climate does not need saving

common sense and discernment does!

GREAT THREAD
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Until equilibrium of course.

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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Goes for all humans.
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Yes i know, but do we agree with this plan?
I mean, we may be the last generation with such "privileges" as heating, consuming, traveling. They want to regulate every aspect of our lives.
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
I have always warned that the weather is not changing
But the second definition of climate - the rules, norms and regulations that govern a people - are what they mean to change in us

Under the guise of saving the planet, mankind is being swept and bundled under a dastardly religion
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Goes for all humans.
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Dat you Murkle?
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
what tripe the Germans spout

the climate does not need saving

common sense and discernment does!

GREAT THREAD
 Quoting: beeches


When i saw it, I said, he can't be serious, but he is and he is a capitalist, right?
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Climate change would demand sacrifices of Germans.

"We have faced major challenges in history"
If you want to protect the climate, you have to change your consumer behavior. Climate protection is not for free.


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Pay up, peasants!
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
I have always warned that the weather is not changing
But the second definition of climate - the rules, norms and regulations that govern a people - are what they mean to change in us

Under the guise of saving the planet, mankind is being swept and bundled under a dastardly religion
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I agree with you, it is a plan, and they use "climate change" in order to impose it on us.
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Goes for all humans.
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hello Greta!
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Goes for all humans.
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Yes i know, but do we agree with this plan?
I mean, we may be the last generation with such "privileges" as heating, consuming, traveling. They want to regulate every aspect of our lives.
 Quoting: Ostria1


It's not like we can go around burning down forests if we want, or we minimize the risk others indirectly have to bear through us driving cars through insurance or smoking zones or etc.pp.

We already are regulated and selfregulated I might add.

This is the same old profiteers of status quo, whining about their shit profit, often times simply leisure and try every legally made, by those same people's politicians, way to milk the proverbial cow until it croaks.

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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
what tripe the Germans spout

the climate does not need saving

common sense and discernment does!

GREAT THREAD
 Quoting: beeches


When i saw it, I said, he can't be serious, but he is and he is a capitalist, right?
 Quoting: Ostria1


don't know if he a capitalist or a socialist, they tend to blur the line in Germany.


There is a TON of money to be made - through donations, profits, and taxes -


if you can convince people the climate is a sick lil baby and needs anudder cookie.....
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Climate change would demand sacrifices of Germans.

"We have faced major challenges in history"
If you want to protect the climate, you have to change your consumer behavior. Climate protection is not for free.


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Pay up, peasants!
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Not only pay, but suffer. He openly says "Heating and fuel will be more expensive, but travelling with train for long distances will be less"

So sure, you can travel everywhere you want with trains.
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Appparently, in polls Germans approve of this. So it is fine.
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
It's not like we can go around burning down forests if we want, or we minimize the risk others indirectly have to bear through us driving cars through insurance or smoking zones or etc.pp.

We already are regulated and selfregulated I might add.

This is the same old profiteers of status quo, whining about their shit profit, often times simply leisure and try every legally made, by those same people's politicians, way to milk the proverbial cow until it croaks.

afro
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We selfregulate but are they? Are they going to live less luxurous lives, or this is only for us, the plebeians?
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Appparently, in polls Germans approve of this. So it is fine.
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Its not just the Germans, see how many Europeans and from the US and Canada, and Australia and New Zealand etc, believe in this narative and they think that they will still have a good life under these measures, probably because they ignore that they will be the ones paying for them (both in money and living conditions).
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Appparently, in polls Germans approve of this. So it is fine.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 78281475


Its not just the Germans, see how many Europeans and from the US and Canada, and Australia and New Zealand etc, believe in this narative and they think that they will still have a good life under these measures, probably because they ignore that they will be the ones paying for them (both in money and living conditions).
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With the exception of the French i believe
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We selfregulate but are they? Are they going to live less luxurous lives, or this is only for us, the plebeians?
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Probably not. But you still think in decades at most.

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With the exception of the French i believe
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We will keep an eye on the French, maybe a revolution will start from there again.
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Also, I know you want to believe, but it is not the lifestyles of the rich and the famous, that are reducing chances. It is the artificial industry, which we created to even come up with all the profit that sits around in banks in the first place.

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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Climate change would demand sacrifices of Germans.

"We have faced major challenges in history"
If you want to protect the climate, you have to change your consumer behavior. Climate protection is not for free.


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Pay up, peasants!
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Not only pay, but suffer. He openly says "Heating and fuel will be more expensive, but travelling with train for long distances will be less"

So sure, you can travel everywhere you want with trains.
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Agenda 21 ueber alles.
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We selfregulate but are they? Are they going to live less luxurous lives, or this is only for us, the plebeians?
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Probably not. But you still think in decades at most.

cool2
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We are in for big changes, i know.
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Set the example.

Tear down those houses, get rid of all that energy-dense fuel and power, shut down the water and sewage and go back to mud huts and s.... in the woods.

The rest of us in the West will observe and then decide.
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Set the example.

Tear down those houses, get rid of all that energy-dense fuel and power, shut down the water and sewage and go back to mud huts and s.... in the woods.

The rest of us in the West will observe and then decide.
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We had like 45% renewable energy this year, come at me bro.

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Set the example.

Tear down those houses, get rid of all that energy-dense fuel and power, shut down the water and sewage and go back to mud huts and s.... in the woods.

The rest of us in the West will observe and then decide.
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We had like 45% renewable energy this year, come at me bro.

epiclol
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Do you see any visible changes in your everyday life in Germany? I mean like more poor people, worse public services etc?
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
Climate change would demand sacrifices of Germans.

"We have faced major challenges in history"
If you want to protect the climate, you have to change your consumer behavior. Climate protection is not for free.

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LOL It would be a huge act of sacrifice if those "we's" would jump off the bridge, to give a good example.

"Climate change" is code word for Global Compact: equal misery for all people of the world, through migration. The condition to implement Agenda 2030.

GC is established as an anti-terrhor scheme:
Shipping the half of Africa to the West.
WHO BENEFITS?
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Nope, it's a little more of the rapey kind of crimes. Though I simply didn't pay attention to it when I was younger. So unless you compare statistics I can't really say. Public Service has constantly gone up though.
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Nope, it's a little more of the rapey kind of crimes. Though I simply didn't pay attention to it when I was younger. So unless you compare statistics I can't really say. Public Service has constantly gone up though.
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More of the poor and more of the rich actually.yeahsure
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Nope, it's a little more of the rapey kind of crimes. Though I simply didn't pay attention to it when I was younger. So unless you compare statistics I can't really say. Public Service has constantly gone up though.
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More of the poor and more of the rich actually.yeahsure
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?
To whom are you answering?
I miss context.
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Re: German lifestyles must change to help protect climate
"Climate change" is code word for Global Compact: equal misery for all people of the world, through migration. The condition to implement Agenda 2030.

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Migration is one pole imo. Climate change is the other one.
Together they will bring us down more quickly.

Who benefits? I wonder too.
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