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JUST IN:::::::FISA Court On Trump Campaign, They WERE IN ON IT!!

 
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Probably the biggest thing that Trump has revealed is that....our System is no longer a Democratic Republic and We the People are not in charge of it. We are not ALLOWED to make changes to the System WE think are necessary as per our Constitution.

So....what then?
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Article V of the U.S. Constitution gives states the power to call a Convention of States to propose amendments. It takes 34 states to call the convention and 38 to ratify any amendments that are proposed. Our convention would only allow the states to discuss amendments that, “limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, impose fiscal restraints, and place term limits on federal officials.”
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I'd think you'd have to clean out all levels of government before calling such a thing into motion. Clearly, the state governments are as usurped and infiltrated as anything. I would not trust the current crop to go making changes. That is for sure.
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Here's the real question no one wants to face:

If the Republic is based on the will of the American people as expressed through our chosen representatives, but yet, we cannot choose a representative who can actually CHANGE THE SYSTEM - which is what we WANT - then do we still have a REPUBLIC?

Are "We the People" still in charge, even theoretically?

And if we cannot make change we desire through the process we've inherited, peacefully......WHAT THEN?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


No. No. And that remains to be seen.
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Presidents and representatives are simply caretakers"Or Stewards. It is their position to maintain the system in goods condition, to hand it over in good condition to the next generation of "leaders."

The constitution was not meant to be changed easily or trivially. Because citizens are not forward thinkers or concerned with the long term survival of the country.
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Barr
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barr is deep state too
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I believe this is true. And to be honest....I don't even know if Durham exists, LOL. We'll see.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Don’t you two see that by doing it this way , Trump gets ALL the traitors to expose themselves!!
The ONLY limitation is how much SHITT he can take from every direction

So far, no matter what they throw at Trump, he beats the fuck out of you comin back, 50x harder.

That INCLUDES the intelligence services, he out chessed them!

FUCK YOU DEEP STATE
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The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity
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Roberts needs to be impeached and removed.

He is tainted.
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Yes, he will be removed if this happens.

"How do you introduce evidence in a court of law?"

Accusing Roberts straight out would ensure the Soros dems go super-nova. So, now, if this goes forward in the Senate, a motion will be entered to have Roberts recuse due to conflict of interest. Then that evidence that shows his guilt in this cover up will be entered into the Congressional Record, and released to the brainwashed masses who don't pay attention.
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So, if Roberts were smart, he would get out in front of the whole thing and say "If this Impeachment goes forward, you'll need to come up with a different Presiding Judge because I just don't think that I could be honestly neutral." Or something to that effect. People would understand, everyone has strong feelings where Trump is concerned.

And if the Dems can go Judge shopping every time they want to hobble the President, why can't the President go Judge shopping as well? Obviously he couldn't choose Kavanaugh or Gorsuch, but isn't there at least one other Constitutionally centered Judge on the Supreme Court?
 Quoting: Eggcellently Deplorable


Not Kagan.

"While Kagan was dean of Harvard Law School, several law faculty plagiarism scandals surfaced. Lawrence R. Velvel, dean of the Massachusetts School of Law, wrote about much of this and called for Kagan's departure at the time.

Velvel accused Kagan and Lawrence Summers (who as president of Harvard appointed Kagan) of a "whitewash that avoids punishing a celebrity star professor" for their handling of the revelations that a book by University Professor Laurence Tribe had passages identical to those in a book by University of Virginia Professor Henry J. Abraham."

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"After the dismissal of James Comey in May 2017, Tribe wrote: "The time has come for Congress to launch an impeachment investigation of President Trump for obstruction of justice." Tribe argued that Trump's conduct rose to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors" that are impeachable offenses under the Constitution.[31] He added: "It will require serious commitment to constitutional principle, and courageous willingness to put devotion to the national interest above self-interest and party loyalty, for a Congress of the president's own party to initiate an impeachment inquiry.""

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We really need a Convention of the States, the voting system is rigged, the entire Congress is rigged, the entire Judiciary is rigged.

With a Convention of the States every unconstitutional law will be challenged and overturned, corrupt Civil Servants will be expelled, indicted and held accountable.

And aren't they obligated to Balance the Budget. We are 20+ TRILLION in debt. This is unacceptable, and there is a 1.4 TRILLION dollar omnibus bill being moved through the Congress as we speak. Ted Cruz did an awesome video on the abuse of power by these corrupt civil servants. RE:Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said a massive government spending bill is a "lobbyist boondoggle.

Article 1
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No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.


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THEY are waging a War of Attrition on these United States of America. They all need to be run out of office, and every lobbyist needs to be barred from stepping foot near a politician.

We are committing suicide and the means of suicide is our elected officials.

STOP THE MADNESS
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

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Ok here's a podcast from Karl Denninger, about 12 minutes. He draws parallels between Watergate (election interference via crime) to the FISA thing (election interference via crime).
In it he asks, why doesn't anyone do anything? Not Durham, YOU.
The French are shutting down Paris, and students are fighting the communists in Hong Kong.
In the USSA, NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING.
There are probably HUNDREDS of people who need to go to jail.
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Most people in open discussions don't even want to talk about, much less say negative things about, liberalism/leftism/progressivism.

Yea, some of the bullshit strangling America is non-partisan in nature and crosses a line represented by the McCains, Romneys and Ryans of society. But most of the levers of power are commandeered by people of the sociopolitical left.


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Trump is a creature of promoters, democrats, repubs, kosher mafia, entertainment industry, construction, real estate, advertising. In short, he is of the ruling class. He is their shill. You people need to realize, it is a class thing, not your bullshit political theater. Wise up!
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Here's the real question no one wants to face:

If the Republic is based on the will of the American people as expressed through our chosen representatives, but yet, we cannot choose a representative who can actually CHANGE THE SYSTEM - which is what we WANT - then do we still have a REPUBLIC?

Are "We the People" still in charge, even theoretically?

And if we cannot make change we desire through the process we've inherited, peacefully......WHAT THEN?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


No. No. And that remains to be seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


Presidents and representatives are simply caretakers"Or Stewards. It is their position to maintain the system in goods condition, to hand it over in good condition to the next generation of "leaders."

The constitution was not meant to be changed easily or trivially. Because citizens are not forward thinkers or concerned with the long term survival of the country.
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I agree, but I don't know how any citizen couldn't be forward thinkers or concerned with the long term survival of the country. It baffles me.
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The layers of corruption is so thick. It's like every fiber of the government is there to protect itself. It's why the most corrupt rises to the top. We are nothing more than slaves to them.
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Don't get mad get DIRTY
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Roberts needs to be impeached and removed.

He is tainted.
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Yes, he will be removed if this happens.

"How do you introduce evidence in a court of law?"

Accusing Roberts straight out would ensure the Soros dems go super-nova. So, now, if this goes forward in the Senate, a motion will be entered to have Roberts recuse due to conflict of interest. Then that evidence that shows his guilt in this cover up will be entered into the Congressional Record, and released to the brainwashed masses who don't pay attention.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77288913




So, if Roberts were smart, he would get out in front of the whole thing and say "If this Impeachment goes forward, you'll need to come up with a different Presiding Judge because I just don't think that I could be honestly neutral." Or something to that effect. People would understand, everyone has strong feelings where Trump is concerned.

And if the Dems can go Judge shopping every time they want to hobble the President, why can't the President go Judge shopping as well? Obviously he couldn't choose Kavanaugh or Gorsuch, but isn't there at least one other Constitutionally centered Judge on the Supreme Court?
 Quoting: Eggcellently Deplorable


Not Kagan.

"While Kagan was dean of Harvard Law School, several law faculty plagiarism scandals surfaced. Lawrence R. Velvel, dean of the Massachusetts School of Law, wrote about much of this and called for Kagan's departure at the time.

Velvel accused Kagan and Lawrence Summers (who as president of Harvard appointed Kagan) of a "whitewash that avoids punishing a celebrity star professor" for their handling of the revelations that a book by University Professor Laurence Tribe had passages identical to those in a book by University of Virginia Professor Henry J. Abraham."

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"After the dismissal of James Comey in May 2017, Tribe wrote: "The time has come for Congress to launch an impeachment investigation of President Trump for obstruction of justice." Tribe argued that Trump's conduct rose to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors" that are impeachable offenses under the Constitution.[31] He added: "It will require serious commitment to constitutional principle, and courageous willingness to put devotion to the national interest above self-interest and party loyalty, for a Congress of the president's own party to initiate an impeachment inquiry.""

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Side note, ...
Huma Abedine was mentioned as being a staffer of First Lady Hillary Clinton according to Hillary’s book , “ Living History, Hillary Rodham Clinton”, page A-48 and page 518. SNIP.. Huma sat in on an Arafat meeting at Camp David, July 11, 2000.

Then again in Hillary’s book, “ An Invitation to the White House, at Home with History”, on page 305 . Also mentioned were John Pedosta (pg. 305) and Elana Kagan(pg. 166) mentioned in 2000 in her book.

Bill Clinton was inaugurated as the 42nd President of the United States January 20, 1993 and ended his Presidency on January 20, 2001.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General (IG) named Muslim Brotherhood spy Huma Abedin 183 times in his recent report on the Hillary email investigation. However, he did not conclude that a spy mishandled classified information. Why?
Abedin’s Muslim Brotherhood ties are an open secret.


The entire Government at every level has been corrupt since the day TPTB killed JFK. It hit overdrive on Jan. 20, 1993 the day the Clinton's were handed the keys to the kingdom.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

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I completely agree. We're in a war and the Repubs still act like someone stole their marbles on the school playground. "Teacher, teacher, that's not fair!!!"

They need to grow up and fight back. Fight back means fighting dirty. TO WIN. It means not going on and on and on about all these things the Dems did to Trump, but finding out HOW THESE PEOPLE MADE THEIR MONEY AND WHO OR WHAT THEY'RE SLEEPING WITH.

Because I think underage IS the answer for a lot of them and the major force we're talking about here is NOT politics but FINANCIAL CORRUPTION.

We tend to forget that most of the talking heads on TV who dominate our consciousness of these issues, are either lawyers and/or former - or current - politicians. Or future politicians. They are NOT professional journalists by and large. There are almost NO INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS left. It was one of the first categories they got rid of when they changed the news formats in the 90s.

We need tons of investigation being done into HOW THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY because the root of all these attacks on Trump are about FINANCIAL CORRUPTION USING US TAX PAYER MONIES AND SYSTEMS. It's NOT about politics. Politics is the mechanism they use to get the MONEY.
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"'Journalism' is about covering important stories. With a pillow. until they stop moving." ----David Burge
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Here's the real question no one wants to face:

If the Republic is based on the will of the American people as expressed through our chosen representatives, but yet, we cannot choose a representative who can actually CHANGE THE SYSTEM - which is what we WANT - then do we still have a REPUBLIC?

Are "We the People" still in charge, even theoretically?

And if we cannot make change we desire through the process we've inherited, peacefully......WHAT THEN?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


No. No. And that remains to be seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


Presidents and representatives are simply caretakers"Or Stewards. It is their position to maintain the system in goods condition, to hand it over in good condition to the next generation of "leaders."

The constitution was not meant to be changed easily or trivially. Because citizens are not forward thinkers or concerned with the long term survival of the country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498


I agree, but I don't know how any citizen couldn't be forward thinkers or concerned with the long term survival of the country. It baffles me.
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It is a class thing. Political shills serve the ruling class. Laws and conventions are for peons like us. They hammer that constitutional myth and founding bs up your asses for a reason. You can wave the flag and feel special while they steal and connive, enriching their families for multi generations. You need to not be baffled, pull your head out of your ass!
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Barr
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arrest.
barr is deep state too
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I believe this is true. And to be honest....I don't even know if Durham exists, LOL. We'll see.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Don’t you two see that by doing it this way , Trump gets ALL the traitors to expose themselves!!
The ONLY limitation is how much SHITT he can take from every direction

So far, no matter what they throw at Trump, he beats the fuck out of you comin back, 50x harder.

That INCLUDES the intelligence services, he out chessed them!

FUCK YOU DEEP STATE
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Finally somebody gets its. This is chess not checkers manburnit
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WE want arrests.....nothing else will do.
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And don't forget CONVICTIONS and GITMO sentences.
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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The Deep State is a real thing, and with each new report or finding we discover that it is deeper than any of us have imagined.

In the most recent case, it appears that the FISA courts were aware that the applications to spy on Carter Page, an aide with President Donald Trump’s campaign.

After the report of Inspector General Michael Horowitz, the head of the FISA courts, Judge Rosemary Collyer, ripped into the FBI for what it did.

“The FBI’s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the [Office of the inspector general] report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above.

“The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable,” the judge said.

But that could have just been a smokescreen to avoid getting heat on herself and the courts as it has now been found that the courts were notified of the issues with the applications beginning in 2016.


BURN THE WHOLE FUCKING THING DOWN!!!!!!!!!

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It has become clear to me, that there was an effort started by a small group of people, to infiltrate every branch of our government... then, overthrow it from within, and turn this into a full blown communist dictatorship.

I'm simplifying it a bit, but it is astonishing just how corrupt the halls of justice has been in this country since President Trump has been elected. It's been going on for a long time, but it took Trump being elected for it to be exposed.

We better all pray that they can clean this shit up... if they don't, the world they have created will be terrible.
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I completely agree. We're in a war and the Repubs still act like someone stole their marbles on the school playground. "Teacher, teacher, that's not fair!!!"

They need to grow up and fight back. Fight back means fighting dirty. TO WIN. It means not going on and on and on about all these things the Dems did to Trump, but finding out HOW THESE PEOPLE MADE THEIR MONEY AND WHO OR WHAT THEY'RE SLEEPING WITH.

Because I think underage IS the answer for a lot of them and the major force we're talking about here is NOT politics but FINANCIAL CORRUPTION.

We tend to forget that most of the talking heads on TV who dominate our consciousness of these issues, are either lawyers and/or former - or current - politicians. Or future politicians. They are NOT professional journalists by and large. There are almost NO INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS left. It was one of the first categories they got rid of when they changed the news formats in the 90s.

We need tons of investigation being done into HOW THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY because the root of all these attacks on Trump are about FINANCIAL CORRUPTION USING US TAX PAYER MONIES AND SYSTEMS. It's NOT about politics. Politics is the mechanism they use to get the MONEY.
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"'Journalism' is about covering important stories. With a pillow. until they stop moving." ----David Burge
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The same could be said for Supreme Court Justices.


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barr is deep state too
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I believe this is true. And to be honest....I don't even know if Durham exists, LOL. We'll see.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Don’t you two see that by doing it this way , Trump gets ALL the traitors to expose themselves!!
The ONLY limitation is how much SHITT he can take from every direction

So far, no matter what they throw at Trump, he beats the fuck out of you comin back, 50x harder.

That INCLUDES the intelligence services, he out chessed them!

FUCK YOU DEEP STATE
 Quoting: Bodiless


Finally somebody gets its. This is chess not checkers manburnit
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His string pullers have manipulated you boomers and peckerwoods past redemption. Trump has “outchessed” his idiot base. Bend over, mushroom is coming. Would you rather chomp, chumps?
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No. No. And that remains to be seen.
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Presidents and representatives are simply caretakers"Or Stewards. It is their position to maintain the system in goods condition, to hand it over in good condition to the next generation of "leaders."

The constitution was not meant to be changed easily or trivially. Because citizens are not forward thinkers or concerned with the long term survival of the country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498


I agree, but I don't know how any citizen couldn't be forward thinkers or concerned with the long term survival of the country. It baffles me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


It is a class thing. Political shills serve the ruling class. Laws and conventions are for peons like us. They hammer that constitutional myth and founding bs up your asses for a reason. You can wave the flag and feel special while they steal and connive, enriching their families for multi generations. You need to not be baffled, pull your head out of your ass!
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Simply writing these things off as a class thing, accepting that political shills will do their thing for the upper class, and being content with one's supposed ascribed status as a peon slave to be robbed blind by a ruling class that exploits founding principles and people's sentimentality for what they try to convince people is nothing more than traditional window dressing for their criminality, while allowing them to sweep the Constitution of the United States into the dustbin of history, does not strike me as forward thinking, or like someone who has the long term survival of the country in mind. Are you sure it's me who needs to pull my head out of my ass?
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I completely agree. We're in a war and the Repubs still act like someone stole their marbles on the school playground. "Teacher, teacher, that's not fair!!!"

They need to grow up and fight back. Fight back means fighting dirty. TO WIN. It means not going on and on and on about all these things the Dems did to Trump, but finding out HOW THESE PEOPLE MADE THEIR MONEY AND WHO OR WHAT THEY'RE SLEEPING WITH.

Because I think underage IS the answer for a lot of them and the major force we're talking about here is NOT politics but FINANCIAL CORRUPTION.

We tend to forget that most of the talking heads on TV who dominate our consciousness of these issues, are either lawyers and/or former - or current - politicians. Or future politicians. They are NOT professional journalists by and large. There are almost NO INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS left. It was one of the first categories they got rid of when they changed the news formats in the 90s.

We need tons of investigation being done into HOW THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY because the root of all these attacks on Trump are about FINANCIAL CORRUPTION USING US TAX PAYER MONIES AND SYSTEMS. It's NOT about politics. Politics is the mechanism they use to get the MONEY.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel




"'Journalism' is about covering important stories. With a pillow. until they stop moving." ----David Burge
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The same could be said for Supreme Court Justices.


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Judge Roberts and Sen Pierre Delicto are as predictable as the Epstien affair at this point.

At least it's all being forced into the open finally.

Theres a race on... A race to start wars in many places all designed by the Dems for the US to lose and lose badly. Then the race to remove Trump before the onging trillions in theft are stopped.

Just Hunter Biden siphoning billions and getting a house in Beverly Hills tells the world the scale is far greater than Guiliani has even sussed out. Corruption is off the chain.
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And they need to keep publicizing the fact that Pelosi's son is involved in exactly the same sort of thing as Hunter , on the Board of some Ukrainian Gas Company. It sure would explain why Pelosi is so dead-set on Impeaching Trump ASAP. Then it looks like payback if anything happens to her kid.

Actually, it would not be that much of a shock to discover that all SORTS of "second-generation" board-members exist in ALL the countries in which the USA is involved.

Maybe THIS ^^^^^^^ is why Trump is really here, to open up and expose THIS can of worms!
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Repubs openly have to start questioning Roberts honesty. The only way any of this is going to resolve is for Repubs in general, TO GO ON THE ATTACK instead of constantly being defensive.

They have to do their own investigations into these people, just like reporters do - hire reporters or PIs - and then publicly announce the findings. All of these degenerates need to be exposed, and hopefully prosecuted. But nothing's gonna happen until they GO ON THE OFFENSIVE.
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Cant, Lindsey Graham works for Obama and keeps blocking all investigations of democrats
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what a corrupt system we have done nothing about for 100 years
pitiful
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democrats have controlled congress for 40 of the last 45 years that is why it is so corrupt
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Ok here's a podcast from Karl Denninger, about 12 minutes. He draws parallels between Watergate (election interference via crime) to the FISA thing (election interference via crime).
In it he asks, why doesn't anyone do anything? Not Durham, YOU.
The French are shutting down Paris, and students are fighting the communists in Hong Kong.
In the USSA, NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING.
There are probably HUNDREDS of people who need to go to jail.
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Well mostly the reason no one is reacting to all of this is because the economy is good.

Most everyone cares only about a paycheck and as long as they have one there is little to complain about in Merica.

NOW, if the economy turns South and millions lose their job there will be pitchforks and torches that day.
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Barr
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barr is deep state too
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Bingo, someone finally got it !!


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I hope Trump understands...

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He absolutely does! Now if he could just get Americans on the same page that would be great!BRKN-nuzALERT
Come And Take It!
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Mike Lee, FISA's canary in the coal mine


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Two House Republicans vowed last week to introduce legislation that would amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and several in the Senate have demanded additional oversight of an agency that has too much power and too little accountability.

This reform is long overdue. Just ask Mike Lee, the Utah senator who has been warning about FISA, its subjective application, and the threat it poses to the public’s privacy for the past nine years. Horowitz’s report, he told me, is an “opportunity” to take a good, long look at FISA and what it has allowed our intelligence community to become.
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Didn't I read recently that the FISA Court system is up for Congressional renewal in March?
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I could be mistaken, but didn’t Collyers just announce she is stepping down from FISA for “medical” reasons.
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Yes, I read that too. After it was discovered that she ordered the illegally gained data destroyed, she announce that she is resigning for medical reasons.
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yep. She could have ordered a "show cause" hearing, ordering the agency to show why it shouldn't be cited for contempt of court. Instead, she just sent a letter, telling them to come up with a plan to clean things up, and quickly resigned, siting poor health Wray says its just one bad apple, nothing to see hear, move along.
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and, Clapper's 18 U.S. Intelligence Agencies.
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Probably the biggest thing that Trump has revealed is that....our System is no longer a Democratic Republic and We the People are not in charge of it. We are not ALLOWED to make changes to the System WE think are necessary as per our Constitution.

So....what then?
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Join these guys

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Article V of the U.S. Constitution gives states the power to call a Convention of States to propose amendments. It takes 34 states to call the convention and 38 to ratify any amendments that are proposed. Our convention would only allow the states to discuss amendments that, “limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, impose fiscal restraints, and place term limits on federal officials.”
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All my alarm bells are going off about this - - what an opportunity on a silver platter for the Deep State to hijack the Constitutional Convention and destroy our Constitution forever!
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and, Clapper's 18 U.S. Intelligence Agencies.
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Who would have thunk that creating an American version of the KGB would have resulted in such criminality?





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