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Think on this. Many tell you the Antichrist is an evil demonic person who will rule the NWO and usher in some crazy New Age religion right? Well, the antichrist is actually good, and would probably be the best leader for this planet.

You see, the antichrist has to embrace all religions, then dismantle them so he/she can be worshipped. What this means is, this person will end up doing the one thing no one on Earth has ever done: They will kill Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, in one fell swoop. Think about that. No more televangelists peddling their bullshit and scamming people out of their money, no more christians screaming how we're all going to Hell. No more dumbass muslims throwing hissy fits over every damn thing. No more suicide bombers and honor killings and executing gays or executing women for showing their ankles or hair in public. No more Israel making racist comments on how their "God's Chosen and everyone else is shit. No more pro Zionist nuts demanding we nuke their countries and screaming antisemite anytime people criticize them. No more dead palestinian children resulting from both Muslims and Jews.

Imagine, all of that gone. The antichrist would see to that. Anyone who dares to continue these religions, will be killed. Executed in public. The antichrist will establish a new Age religion, judging by the new Age stuff I've seen, it'll be very pleasant and have lots of Hinduism, Buddhism, mixed with other sorts of occult mysticism, ancient knowledge which was lost because the three main religions think burning books and withholding information from people is funny. Imagine a world where people are able to fully embrace mysticism, and learn things once thought impossible. I once saw a movie on the antichrist where he revealed a New religion to the world that heavily emphasized becoming like unto gods, and the people who embraced it were able to learn incredible things, such as telekinesis, levitation, and more.

What has Christianity, Islam, or Judaism given the world? Wars? Stupidity? Have you ever seen a single Christian, Muslim, or Jew, use the inner power of the mind through meditation and such practices? Christians claim Jesus said by believing in him all of his miracles can be done, yet not a single Christian has ever done any miracle. Finding your car keys isn't a miracle, sorry. Muslims have so many beliefs in occult magic such as Djinns, and yet they hide it all away, because in Islam being stupid and ignorant is preferred to actually gaining knowledge. And Judaism, oh wow. Knowledge of summoning demons and angels and creating golems. All hidden because god forbid people actually learn something. Then again, why would Jews need to learn anything; when you're God's Chosen you're already born perfect right?

Think of all the knowledge these bastards kept from us all these centuries. The Catholic Church was notorious for burning books and stealing items they felt people shou7ldn't have. Imagine the vast libraries of occult materials and items at the Vatican alone, locked away so some old pedophile can laugh at everyone.

Is that what you enjoy, a world run by these lunatics? Would you not prefer a new world, a new religion, a new system of things? The old order must be cast off and destroyed, burned away for the new Order to arise from the ashes like the ancient Phoenix. And all of the ones who kept us in the dark will be destroyed.

If there is an antichrist, let us hope they gain power soon and smite Christians, Muslims, and Jews. May the antichrist kill every single one who will not bow and follow the new age religion. May the antichrist burn every one of their holy books, kill any pastor, priest , mullah, rabbi, or other religious scholar amongst them, may the Vatican and all the secrets contained within be released for the world to enjoy, may we no longer be held back by religious zealots who seek to limit the ascension of the world, and would rather doom it to hell. May the antichrist poke out the eyes of every scribe who would write of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism; chop off their hands, boil them alive, flay their flesh, may the chosen one erase the existence of these three groups so that none may even remember the day they were conceived!

Hail the Antichrist, the Great Illuminator and bringer of a bright new age! Fuck Jehovah, Allah, and Yahweh! Fuck every saint, every prophet, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew, fuck them all, each and every one, and may even the very memory of them be forgotten for all time!


To all the religious nuts bound to come and dispute, know this: Your time is short. The world is growing more and more hostile to you. People are sick of you, sick of your wars, your endless violence and constant bickering and whining and posturing. George W. Bush, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Ehud Olmert, I thank you, for it is you three who have made it possible for the world to see how worthless and sick your beliefs are, and it is you three who will have caused the world to harden it's heart against your faiths.
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In all honesty, That makes alot of sense.
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yes...the anti-christ came over last week to fix my toilet...nice guy.
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Think on this. Many tell you the Antichrist is an evil demonic person who will rule the NWO and usher in some crazy New Age religion right? Well, the antichrist is actually good, and would probably be the best leader for this planet.

You see, the antichrist has to embrace all religions, then dismantle them so he/she can be worshipped. What this means is, this person will end up doing the one thing no one on Earth has ever done: They will kill Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, in one fell swoop. Think about that. No more televangelists peddling their bullshit and scamming people out of their money, no more christians screaming how we're all going to Hell. No more dumbass muslims throwing hissy fits over every damn thing. No more suicide bombers and honor killings and executing gays or executing women for showing their ankles or hair in public. No more Israel making racist comments on how their "God's Chosen and everyone else is shit. No more pro Zionist nuts demanding we nuke their countries and screaming antisemite anytime people criticize them. No more dead palestinian children resulting from both Muslims and Jews.

Imagine, all of that gone. The antichrist would see to that. Anyone who dares to continue these religions, will be killed. Executed in public. The antichrist will establish a new Age religion, judging by the new Age stuff I've seen, it'll be very pleasant and have lots of Hinduism, Buddhism, mixed with other sorts of occult mysticism, ancient knowledge which was lost because the three main religions think burning books and withholding information from people is funny. Imagine a world where people are able to fully embrace mysticism, and learn things once thought impossible. I once saw a movie on the antichrist where he revealed a New religion to the world that heavily emphasized becoming like unto gods, and the people who embraced it were able to learn incredible things, such as telekinesis, levitation, and more.

What has Christianity, Islam, or Judaism given the world? Wars? Stupidity? Have you ever seen a single Christian, Muslim, or Jew, use the inner power of the mind through meditation and such practices? Christians claim Jesus said by believing in him all of his miracles can be done, yet not a single Christian has ever done any miracle. Finding your car keys isn't a miracle, sorry. Muslims have so many beliefs in occult magic such as Djinns, and yet they hide it all away, because in Islam being stupid and ignorant is preferred to actually gaining knowledge. And Judaism, oh wow. Knowledge of summoning demons and angels and creating golems. All hidden because god forbid people actually learn something. Then again, why would Jews need to learn anything; when you're God's Chosen you're already born perfect right?

Think of all the knowledge these bastards kept from us all these centuries. The Catholic Church was notorious for burning books and stealing items they felt people shou7ldn't have. Imagine the vast libraries of occult materials and items at the Vatican alone, locked away so some old pedophile can laugh at everyone.

Is that what you enjoy, a world run by these lunatics? Would you not prefer a new world, a new religion, a new system of things? The old order must be cast off and destroyed, burned away for the new Order to arise from the ashes like the ancient Phoenix. And all of the ones who kept us in the dark will be destroyed.

If there is an antichrist, let us hope they gain power soon and smite Christians, Muslims, and Jews. May the antichrist kill every single one who will not bow and follow the new age religion. May the antichrist burn every one of their holy books, kill any pastor, priest , mullah, rabbi, or other religious scholar amongst them, may the Vatican and all the secrets contained within be released for the world to enjoy, may we no longer be held back by religious zealots who seek to limit the ascension of the world, and would rather doom it to hell. May the antichrist poke out the eyes of every scribe who would write of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism; chop off their hands, boil them alive, flay their flesh, may the chosen one erase the existence of these three groups so that none may even remember the day they were conceived!

Hail the Antichrist, the Great Illuminator and bringer of a bright new age! Fuck Jehovah, Allah, and Yahweh! Fuck every saint, every prophet, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew, fuck them all, each and every one, and may even the very memory of them be forgotten for all time!


To all the religious nuts bound to come and dispute, know this: Your time is short. The world is growing more and more hostile to you. People are sick of you, sick of your wars, your endless violence and constant bickering and whining and posturing. George W. Bush, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Ehud Olmert, I thank you, for it is you three who have made it possible for the world to see how worthless and sick your beliefs are, and it is you three who will have caused the world to harden it's heart against your faiths.
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There is no doubt that many "Christian" leaders have used the faith to commit terrible offenses. However, they stood in direct defiance of our Lord's teachings when they committed these acts.

The name of the antiChrist is Apollyon in Greek, and in Hebrew, Abaddon(The Chief Demon of Hell) Now if you use Apollyon as a verb in Greek, instead of as a name it is Apollyo which means quite literally "LOSS OF SOUL"abomb.

So, if you are looking forward to the advent of the antiChrist, the NWO will welcome you with open arms and you will choose to receive the mark they give you. Once you do that, their is no atonement left for you as Apollyo will describe your destiny...

You do what you must, for I have warned you in advance and will not be held accountable, nor shall your decision rest upon my head.

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Think on this. Many tell you the Antichrist is an evil demonic person who will rule the NWO and usher in some crazy New Age religion right? Well, the antichrist is actually good, and would probably be the best leader for this planet.

You see, the antichrist has to embrace all religions, then dismantle them so he/she can be worshipped. What this means is, this person will end up doing the one thing no one on Earth has ever done: They will kill Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, in one fell swoop. Think about that. No more televangelists peddling their bullshit and scamming people out of their money, no more christians screaming how we're all going to Hell. No more dumbass muslims throwing hissy fits over every damn thing. No more suicide bombers and honor killings and executing gays or executing women for showing their ankles or hair in public. No more Israel making racist comments on how their "God's Chosen and everyone else is shit. No more pro Zionist nuts demanding we nuke their countries and screaming antisemite anytime people criticize them. No more dead palestinian children resulting from both Muslims and Jews.

Imagine, all of that gone. The antichrist would see to that. Anyone who dares to continue these religions, will be killed. Executed in public. The antichrist will establish a new Age religion, judging by the new Age stuff I've seen, it'll be very pleasant and have lots of Hinduism, Buddhism, mixed with other sorts of occult mysticism, ancient knowledge which was lost because the three main religions think burning books and withholding information from people is funny. Imagine a world where people are able to fully embrace mysticism, and learn things once thought impossible. I once saw a movie on the antichrist where he revealed a New religion to the world that heavily emphasized becoming like unto gods, and the people who embraced it were able to learn incredible things, such as telekinesis, levitation, and more.

What has Christianity, Islam, or Judaism given the world? Wars? Stupidity? Have you ever seen a single Christian, Muslim, or Jew, use the inner power of the mind through meditation and such practices? Christians claim Jesus said by believing in him all of his miracles can be done, yet not a single Christian has ever done any miracle. Finding your car keys isn't a miracle, sorry. Muslims have so many beliefs in occult magic such as Djinns, and yet they hide it all away, because in Islam being stupid and ignorant is preferred to actually gaining knowledge. And Judaism, oh wow. Knowledge of summoning demons and angels and creating golems. All hidden because god forbid people actually learn something. Then again, why would Jews need to learn anything; when you're God's Chosen you're already born perfect right?

Think of all the knowledge these bastards kept from us all these centuries. The Catholic Church was notorious for burning books and stealing items they felt people shou7ldn't have. Imagine the vast libraries of occult materials and items at the Vatican alone, locked away so some old pedophile can laugh at everyone.

Is that what you enjoy, a world run by these lunatics? Would you not prefer a new world, a new religion, a new system of things? The old order must be cast off and destroyed, burned away for the new Order to arise from the ashes like the ancient Phoenix. And all of the ones who kept us in the dark will be destroyed.

If there is an antichrist, let us hope they gain power soon and smite Christians, Muslims, and Jews. May the antichrist kill every single one who will not bow and follow the new age religion. May the antichrist burn every one of their holy books, kill any pastor, priest , mullah, rabbi, or other religious scholar amongst them, may the Vatican and all the secrets contained within be released for the world to enjoy, may we no longer be held back by religious zealots who seek to limit the ascension of the world, and would rather doom it to hell. May the antichrist poke out the eyes of every scribe who would write of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism; chop off their hands, boil them alive, flay their flesh, may the chosen one erase the existence of these three groups so that none may even remember the day they were conceived!

Hail the Antichrist, the Great Illuminator and bringer of a bright new age! Fuck Jehovah, Allah, and Yahweh! Fuck every saint, every prophet, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew, fuck them all, each and every one, and may even the very memory of them be forgotten for all time!


To all the religious nuts bound to come and dispute, know this: Your time is short. The world is growing more and more hostile to you. People are sick of you, sick of your wars, your endless violence and constant bickering and whining and posturing. George W. Bush, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Ehud Olmert, I thank you, for it is you three who have made it possible for the world to see how worthless and sick your beliefs are, and it is you three who will have caused the world to harden it's heart against your faiths.
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Think on this. Many tell you the Antichrist is an evil demonic person who will rule the NWO and usher in some crazy New Age religion right? Well, the antichrist is actually good, and would probably be the best leader for this planet.

You see, the antichrist has to embrace all religions, then dismantle them so he/she can be worshipped. What this means is, this person will end up doing the one thing no one on Earth has ever done: They will kill Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, in one fell swoop. Think about that. No more televangelists peddling their bullshit and scamming people out of their money, no more christians screaming how we're all going to Hell. No more dumbass muslims throwing hissy fits over every damn thing. No more suicide bombers and honor killings and executing gays or executing women for showing their ankles or hair in public. No more Israel making racist comments on how their "God's Chosen and everyone else is shit. No more pro Zionist nuts demanding we nuke their countries and screaming antisemite anytime people criticize them. No more dead palestinian children resulting from both Muslims and Jews.

Imagine, all of that gone. The antichrist would see to that. Anyone who dares to continue these religions, will be killed. Executed in public. The antichrist will establish a new Age religion, judging by the new Age stuff I've seen, it'll be very pleasant and have lots of Hinduism, Buddhism, mixed with other sorts of occult mysticism, ancient knowledge which was lost because the three main religions think burning books and withholding information from people is funny. Imagine a world where people are able to fully embrace mysticism, and learn things once thought impossible. I once saw a movie on the antichrist where he revealed a New religion to the world that heavily emphasized becoming like unto gods, and the people who embraced it were able to learn incredible things, such as telekinesis, levitation, and more.

What has Christianity, Islam, or Judaism given the world? Wars? Stupidity? Have you ever seen a single Christian, Muslim, or Jew, use the inner power of the mind through meditation and such practices? Christians claim Jesus said by believing in him all of his miracles can be done, yet not a single Christian has ever done any miracle. Finding your car keys isn't a miracle, sorry. Muslims have so many beliefs in occult magic such as Djinns, and yet they hide it all away, because in Islam being stupid and ignorant is preferred to actually gaining knowledge. And Judaism, oh wow. Knowledge of summoning demons and angels and creating golems. All hidden because god forbid people actually learn something. Then again, why would Jews need to learn anything; when you're God's Chosen you're already born perfect right?

Think of all the knowledge these bastards kept from us all these centuries. The Catholic Church was notorious for burning books and stealing items they felt people shou7ldn't have. Imagine the vast libraries of occult materials and items at the Vatican alone, locked away so some old pedophile can laugh at everyone.

Is that what you enjoy, a world run by these lunatics? Would you not prefer a new world, a new religion, a new system of things? The old order must be cast off and destroyed, burned away for the new Order to arise from the ashes like the ancient Phoenix. And all of the ones who kept us in the dark will be destroyed.

If there is an antichrist, let us hope they gain power soon and smite Christians, Muslims, and Jews. May the antichrist kill every single one who will not bow and follow the new age religion. May the antichrist burn every one of their holy books, kill any pastor, priest , mullah, rabbi, or other religious scholar amongst them, may the Vatican and all the secrets contained within be released for the world to enjoy, may we no longer be held back by religious zealots who seek to limit the ascension of the world, and would rather doom it to hell. May the antichrist poke out the eyes of every scribe who would write of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism; chop off their hands, boil them alive, flay their flesh, may the chosen one erase the existence of these three groups so that none may even remember the day they were conceived!

Hail the Antichrist, the Great Illuminator and bringer of a bright new age! Fuck Jehovah, Allah, and Yahweh! Fuck every saint, every prophet, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew, fuck them all, each and every one, and may even the very memory of them be forgotten for all time!


To all the religious nuts bound to come and dispute, know this: Your time is short. The world is growing more and more hostile to you. People are sick of you, sick of your wars, your endless violence and constant bickering and whining and posturing. George W. Bush, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Ehud Olmert, I thank you, for it is you three who have made it possible for the world to see how worthless and sick your beliefs are, and it is you three who will have caused the world to harden it's heart against your faiths.
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GOD BLESS THE HOLY WAR!!!!
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You do make sense! Kill all the people willing to kill others for their spiritless religions and all the problems will cease.If it turns out badly, there's always the old 38 to the temple.
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In Croatia during World War 2, the Catholic priests changed their robes for the uniforms of the dreaded Ustachi killer squads, and led the most barbaric, brutal raids upon those people and practiced torture never before known in this century.


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Stane Kukavica, a Franciscan monk, also seen in the uniform of the Ustashi.


"The non-Catholic population of Catholic Croatia (that's Yugoslavia) were given two basic alternatives: conversion or death. Their church buildings were closed, parish documents destroyed, ecclesiastical buildings burned down, Orthodox worshipers very often were arrested inside their own churches, and kept there or in local halls while awaiting their fate: forced conversion, concentration camps or execution. Their survival, more often than not, depended upon the whim of the Ustachi Commandants and of the Catholic Padres (priests) accompanying them."



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Ante Pavelic, the head of the Ustashi State of Croatia, surrounded with Croatian Catholic clergy in April, 1942. He was to Yugoslavia, what Hitler was to Germany.


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The bishops and archbishops of Croatia gave full support to the Ustashi. Here, the Croatian bishops and archbishops are seen pictured with Ante Pavelic during one of their frequent conferences with him.


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Nuns marching together with Croatian Nazi-legionnaires (Ustashi).

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Pavelic among Croatian nuns. They were decorated (see decoration on chest) by Pavelic for their "heroic" Ustashi deeds.


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An Ustashi, with a sadistic smile on his face, chopping off a man's head with an ax.

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This photograph of Ustashi taken in Bosnia in 1943 before they executed their victim.


"Mass murders were supplemented by the massacre of individuals, mostly in rural districts. The Ustachi very often used the most primitive weapons, such as forks, spades, hammers and saws, to torture their victims prior to their execution. They broke their legs, pulled off their skin and beards, blinded them by cutting their eyes with knives and even tearing them from their sockets." This information is documented by pictures and by the sworn testimony of survivors.

"They did not spare women or children. To quote only one instance: 'In the villages between Vlasenica and Kladani the Nazi occupational troops discovered children who had been impaled upon stakes by the Ustachi, their little members distorted with pain.' Catholic priests advocated the killing of children.



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A priest named Ivan Raguz, repeatedly urged the killing of all Serbs, including children so that "not even the seeds of the beasts are left."

A Catholic priest named Juric said, "Today it is no longer a sin to kill a child of seven, should such a child be opposed to our movement of the Ustachi.'"

"The worst atrocities, strange as it may seem, were carried out by members of the intelligentsia. The case of Peter Brzica is undoubtedly one of the most incredible in this category. Peter Brzica had attended the Franciscan College at Siroki, Brijeg, in Herzegovina, was a law student, and a member of the Catholic organization of Crusaders. In the concentration camp at Jasenovac, on the night of August 29, 1942, orders were issued for executions. Bets were made as to who could liquidate the largest number of inmates. Peter Brzica cut the throats of 1, 360 prisoners with a specially sharp butcher's knife. Having been proclaimed the prize-winner of the competition, he was elected King of the Cut-throats. A gold watch, a silver service and a roasted suckling pig and wine were his rewards."

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The Franciscan monk, Miroslav Filipovic, left, as a priest; wearing his cassock, right, in Ustashi uniform. Filipovic was the commandant of the concentration camp at Jasenovac.

Jasenovac concentration camp distinguished itself because of the number of young inmates sent there. In 1942 the camp held over 24, 000 Orthodox youngsters. Twelve thousand of them were murdered in cold blood.



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Corpses of children starved to death in the concentration camp at Jasenovac.


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Ustashi carrying the head of a Serbian Orthodox priest.

At Dubrovinick, Dalmatia, fascist soldiers had photographs of an Ustashi wearing two necklaces. One was a string of cut-out eyes, the other of torn out tongues of murdered Orthodox Serbs.


The atrocities of the Ustachi far surpassed mere physical torture. Their victims were tormented emotionally as well. An example of the unprecedented brutality is recorded by the sworn testimony of several witnesses regarding the following incident.

At Nevesinje, the Ustachi arrested one whole Serbian family consisting of father, mother and four children. The mother and children were separated from the father. For seven days they were tortured by starvation and thirst. Then they brought the mother and children a large roast, and plenty of water to drink. These unfortunates were so hungry that they ate the entire roast. After they finished, the Ustachi told them that they had just eaten the flesh of their father.


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Archbishop Stepinac, Head of the Croatian Hierarchy, welcomes Ante Pavelic at the opening of the Ustashi Government in Zagreb, February 23, 1942.

Stepinac was a steady, zealous and efficient partner of Pavelic's Dictatorship. He supported the Ustashi Government from the beginning until the end. Indeed, even after Ustashi Croatia collapsed following the disintegration of Nazi Germany.

Stepinac was not only the Head of the Council of Croatian Bishops and of the Committee which carried out a policy of forcible conversions, he was none other than the Supreme Military Apostolic Vicar of the Ustashi Army.

When Ustashi Croatia fell in 1945 as a result of the defeat of Nazi Germany and Pavelic had to run for his life, Archbishop Stepinac, in a vain effort to save the Regime, succeeded him as Head of Ustashi Croatia.

Stepinac ordered special ceremonies in all the Catholic churches on Pavelic's birthday, and he frequently invoked the blessing of God upon the Ustashi.



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Hitler with Ante Pavelic, head of the Ustashi in Croatia

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Archbishop Stepinac with Ante Pavelic


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At the opening of the Ustashi Parliament, Archbishop Stepinac, after offering special prayers to God in a ceremony in the Cathedral, ordered the singing of a solemn Te Deum, as thanks to the Almighty for the establishment of the Ustashi Dictatorship.

On April 13, 1941, Pavelic reached Zagreb. On the 14th, Archbishop Stepinac blessed him.

At Easter, 1941, Stepinac solemnly announced from Zagreb Cathedral the establishment of the Independent State of Croatia.

On April 28, 1941, he issued a Pastoral Letter, ordering the Croatian clergy to support the new Ustashi State.

On June 28, 1941, Stepinac, with other Bishops, visited Pavelic. After promising total cooperation with him, Stepinac prayed for him. "We implore the Lord of the Stars to give his divine blessings to you, the leader of our people," were Stepinac's words.

In the photograph, Stepinac accompanies Pavelic to the Cathedral steps after having prayed for him and for the Ustashi.



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Archbishop Stepinac in the Ustashi Legislature

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Archbishop Stepinac with Ustashi


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At a Ustashi Meeting. (From right to left) Archbishop Stepinac; General Roata, Commander of the Fascist forces of occupation in Yugoslavia; Field Marsbai Slavio Kvaternik; and the Commander of the German forces of occupation in Croatia.

As Supreme Military Apostolic Vicar of the Ustashi Army, Archbishop Stepinac participated in military and political functions, mingling with the Fascist, Nazi and Ustashi Commanders.

At one time Stepinac directed Ustashi guerrillas following Pavelic's flight. He established contacts and coordinated the scattered Ustashi bands, directing priests and monks to act as liaison with them.

When, finally, on November 8, 1945, Ustashi Croatia disintegrated, Stepinac reconsecrated the Ustashi Crusaders' force with a fiat in his own Chapel. After which he received "a pledge from Ustashi intellectuals" to fight to the end for the liberator of Ustashi Croatia.

He was in constant contact with the Ustashi detachments raiding Orthodox villages and towns. Also with the Nazi occupational forces in and outside Croatia.



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A Roman Catholic priest forcibly "converting" a whole village of Orthodox Serbs. 'Father' Ante Djuric, of the District of Dvor, always opened his "sermons" with the following preliminary: "The Orthodox of this District have only three ways out: to accept the Catholic faith, to move out [leaving behind them all their possessions], or to be cleansed with the metal broom."


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Failure to accept one of the three threats resulted in a rash of mass executions such as the public hanging of Orthodox Serbs in Sarajevo, 1945, depicted above.


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Forced Conversion. The Ustashi promised the Serbs that they would be spared death if they converted from Eastern Orthodoxy to Roman Catholicism. Thousand converted, only to be killed anyway.


The revival of a policy of forcible conversion assumes an even more portentous significance when one remembers that it occurred with the tacit approval of the Vatican. Had the Vatican disapproved, not a single priest could have taken part in the massacres or forcible conversions. A village priest can act only with the approval of minor Hierarchs who themselves cannot move without the permission of their Bishop, while the Bishop, in his turn, must act according to the instructions of his Archbishop; the Archbishop only on those of the Primate; the Primate on the direct instructions of the Vatican. The Vatican is the personal dominion of the Pope. The Pope being the central pivot of the vast Hierarchical machinery, it follows that the ultimate responsibility for all members of the clergy—or, to be more precise, for the collective action of any given national Hierarchy—rests with him. This cannot be otherwise. For policies of great import must be submitted to him before their promotion by all Hierarchies the world over, the Pope being their sole authority. If the responsibility for the monstrous persecutions rests with the head of the National Hierarchy—i.e. Stepinac—it has automatically to rest also with the Head of the Universal Church, without whose consent the Catholic Hierarchy would not have dared to act—i.e. with Pope Pius XII.

Pius XII could not plead ignorance of what was going on in Croatia by bringing forward the excuse of the obstacles of war. Communication between Rome and Croatia was as easy and as free as in peace-time. From the very beginning of hostilities the Nazi Ambassador at the Vatican was treated as of far greater importance than all the Allied diplomats. In 1940-1942 the Vatican was on the most cordial terms with Hitler. Political and religious Ustashi leaders came and went between Rome and Zagreb as freely as did the Germans and Italians, the Ustashi State then being a satellite of Nazi Germany, and hence a province of the Nazi Empire. Moreover, the Pope knew what was happening in Croatia, not only through the Hierarchical administrative machinery, which kept him up to date on all Croatian events, but also through other reliable sources.

They were:

(a) The Papal Legate. Pius XII, it should never be forgotten, had a personal representative in Croatia, whose task was to implement Vatican policy and coordinate it with that of Pavelic, as well as reporting on religious and political matters to the Pope himself. The Papal Legate to Croatia was Mgr. Marcone, who openly blessed the Ustashi, publicly gave the Fascist salute, and encouraged Catholics (e.g. when he went to Mostar) to be "faithful to the Holy See, which had helped that same people for centuries against Eastern barbarism"—that is to say, against the Orthodox Church and the Serbs. Thus, the Pope's official representative openly instigated religious persecution, as well as praying for victory "under the leadership of the Head of the State, Pavelic," against the Yugoslav National Liberation Army in 1944-1945.



(b) Cardinal Tiseran, head of the Holy Congregation of Eastern Churches. This congregation's specific task was to deal with Eastern Churches. Cardinal Tiseran received detailed reports of every forcible conversion and massacre in Croatia. Between April and June, 1941, over 100,000 Orthodox Serbs were massacred; yet Cardinal Tiseran, on July 17, 1941, had the audacity to declare that Archbishop Stepinac would now do a great work for the development of Catholicism in "the Independent State of Croatia...where there are such great hopes for the conversion of those who are not of the true faith."



(c) Ante Pavelic, who, by his representative to the Vatican, through whom Pius XII sent "special blessing to the Leader (Pavelic)," forwarded regular reports, at times straight from the Minister of Religions, about the "rapid" progress of the Catholicization of the New Croatia.



(d) Last but not least, Archbishop Stepinac himself, who in person visited Pius XII twice, and who supplied His Holiness with figures of the forcible conversions. In an official document, dated as late as May 8, 1944, His Eminence Archbishop Stepinac, head of the Catholic Hierarchy, in fact, informed the Holy Father that to date "244,000 Orthodox Serbs" had been "converted to the Church of God."


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A copy of the original document dealing with the conversion to the Catholic Church of all Orthodox persons employed by the Government. Issued in Zagreb by the Ministry of Justice and Religions.

Everyone had to be or to become a Catholic. Refusal meant instant dismissal, loss of property, or arrest. And, very often, all three.

Additional decrees were issued, e.g. "Law concerning the conversion from one religion to another." On June 1, 1941, the Ustashi Premier set up an Office of Religious Affairs, in charge of "all matters pertaining to questions connected with the conversion of the Orthodox Church" (Decree No. 11,689).

Such legislation rested upon the tenet that "the movement of the Ustashi is based upon the Catholic Church," as enunciated by Mile Budak, July 13, 1941, at Karlovac.
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Think on this. Many tell you the Antichrist is an evil demonic person who will rule the NWO and usher in some crazy New Age religion right? Well, the antichrist is actually good, and would probably be the best leader for this planet.

You see, the antichrist has to embrace all religions, then dismantle them so he/she can be worshipped. What this means is, this person will end up doing the one thing no one on Earth has ever done: They will kill Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, in one fell swoop. Think about that. No more televangelists peddling their bullshit and scamming people out of their money, no more christians screaming how we're all going to Hell. No more dumbass muslims throwing hissy fits over every damn thing. No more suicide bombers and honor killings and executing gays or executing women for showing their ankles or hair in public. No more Israel making racist comments on how their "God's Chosen and everyone else is shit. No more pro Zionist nuts demanding we nuke their countries and screaming antisemite anytime people criticize them. No more dead palestinian children resulting from both Muslims and Jews.

Imagine, all of that gone. The antichrist would see to that. Anyone who dares to continue these religions, will be killed. Executed in public. The antichrist will establish a new Age religion, judging by the new Age stuff I've seen, it'll be very pleasant and have lots of Hinduism, Buddhism, mixed with other sorts of occult mysticism, ancient knowledge which was lost because the three main religions think burning books and withholding information from people is funny. Imagine a world where people are able to fully embrace mysticism, and learn things once thought impossible. I once saw a movie on the antichrist where he revealed a New religion to the world that heavily emphasized becoming like unto gods, and the people who embraced it were able to learn incredible things, such as telekinesis, levitation, and more.

What has Christianity, Islam, or Judaism given the world? Wars? Stupidity? Have you ever seen a single Christian, Muslim, or Jew, use the inner power of the mind through meditation and such practices? Christians claim Jesus said by believing in him all of his miracles can be done, yet not a single Christian has ever done any miracle. Finding your car keys isn't a miracle, sorry. Muslims have so many beliefs in occult magic such as Djinns, and yet they hide it all away, because in Islam being stupid and ignorant is preferred to actually gaining knowledge. And Judaism, oh wow. Knowledge of summoning demons and angels and creating golems. All hidden because god forbid people actually learn something. Then again, why would Jews need to learn anything; when you're God's Chosen you're already born perfect right?

Think of all the knowledge these bastards kept from us all these centuries. The Catholic Church was notorious for burning books and stealing items they felt people shou7ldn't have. Imagine the vast libraries of occult materials and items at the Vatican alone, locked away so some old pedophile can laugh at everyone.

Is that what you enjoy, a world run by these lunatics? Would you not prefer a new world, a new religion, a new system of things? The old order must be cast off and destroyed, burned away for the new Order to arise from the ashes like the ancient Phoenix. And all of the ones who kept us in the dark will be destroyed.

If there is an antichrist, let us hope they gain power soon and smite Christians, Muslims, and Jews. May the antichrist kill every single one who will not bow and follow the new age religion. May the antichrist burn every one of their holy books, kill any pastor, priest , mullah, rabbi, or other religious scholar amongst them, may the Vatican and all the secrets contained within be released for the world to enjoy, may we no longer be held back by religious zealots who seek to limit the ascension of the world, and would rather doom it to hell. May the antichrist poke out the eyes of every scribe who would write of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism; chop off their hands, boil them alive, flay their flesh, may the chosen one erase the existence of these three groups so that none may even remember the day they were conceived!

Hail the Antichrist, the Great Illuminator and bringer of a bright new age! Fuck Jehovah, Allah, and Yahweh! Fuck every saint, every prophet, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew, fuck them all, each and every one, and may even the very memory of them be forgotten for all time!


To all the religious nuts bound to come and dispute, know this: Your time is short. The world is growing more and more hostile to you. People are sick of you, sick of your wars, your endless violence and constant bickering and whining and posturing. George W. Bush, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Ehud Olmert, I thank you, for it is you three who have made it possible for the world to see how worthless and sick your beliefs are, and it is you three who will have caused the world to harden it's heart against your faiths.
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You are very wise. I will do all that, and more!
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Gold watches taken from Serb and Jewish victims and hidden in the residence of the Archbishop of Zagreb, where they were found after the retreat of the Ustashi.

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In Jasenovac and other camps, the Ustashi broke the jaws of the victims and removed the gold crowns, took away the medallions, and took the hidden gold from the rich prisoners. The gold ended up in the palace of Archbishop Stepinac and was later shipped to Rome...


JRI ANNOUNCEMENT OF ITS CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE VATICAN BANK
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THE JASENOVAC RESEARCH INSTITUTE

PO Box 332 Birmingham, Mi. 48012

The Time For Restitution Is At Hand For Serbs, Jews, Romas and Other Victims of Ustashe Genocide: The Vatican Bank and Others Must Return $2.325 Billion in Looted Assets.

On 19 January 2000 the Jasenovac Research Institute joined seven Serbian, Jewish and Ukrainian Holocaust victims in a class action lawsuit against the Vatican Bank, the Franciscan Order and several unnamed Austrian, Swiss, Argentine and other banking institutions. The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court in San Francisco, seeks restitution of several hundred millions of dollars in looted property and assets taken in World War II Croatia by the clerical-fascist Croatian Nazi regime which the suit charges was subsequently deposited in the Vatican Bank and other institutions.

The original lawsuit was filed by U.S. attorneys Tom Easton and Jonathan Levy on 15 November 1999 in the San Francisco U.S. District Court on behalf of four Jewish and Ukrainian Holocaust victims. On 21 January 2000 the class action lawsuit was amended and re-filed to include the Jasenovac Research Institute, a non-profit organization committed to the study of the Holocaust in Yugoslavia, and three additional individuals as class-representative plaintiffs: Vladimir Brodich, a Serbian-American currently living in Arizona, whose family was dispossessed and murdered in wartime Croatia; William Dorich, a Serbian-American living in California who lost seventeen members of his family in the town of Vojinich; and Igor Najfeld, a Yugoslav Jew currently living in Vermont but born in wartime Croatia. Dr. Najfeld's family's business and property was stolen by the Croatian State authorities and fifty-six members of the Najfeld's family were slaughtered in the Croatian death-camp complex known as Jasenovac.

Following the Nazi invasion and dismemberment of Yugoslavia in April 1941, the Independent State of Croatia was established as a clerical-fascist state under the rule of the Croatian fascist party, the Ustashe. Some 700,000 Serbs, Jews, Romas and other anti-fascists were killed in the Jasenovac death-camp complex, while many more were killed in smaller camps or in local massacres. While the Ustashe regime set about to racially exterminate all Serbs, Jews and Romas living within its borders, it also carried out a systematic policy of plundering the assets of these three nationalities. These looted assets, the property of millions of people, were never recovered. The bulk of it was smuggled out of Croatia at the end of the war to the Vatican, and from there to still other destinations.

There is no statute of limitations for claims against these crimes. There are two reasons for this: the 1968 international convention regarding the non-applicability of statutes of limitation for war crimes, and the concealment of vital information regarding the culpability of the accused parties in these crimes. Another law firm, Zimmerman and Reed, has filed a similar lawsuit seeking restitution for Holocaust victims from Yugoslavia on 27 January 2000 in Minneapolis. It is expected that still other law firms will join these two suits or file additional suits in the coming months. The JRI will offer its support to all such efforts and encourage others to do the same.

The lawsuit which the JRI has joined is based on evidence contained in recently declassified government documents from the United States, Britain and Argentina. Several of the declassified U.S. military intelligence reports obtained by the JRI clearly state that the majority of these looted assets was deposited in the Vatican "for safe-keeping." The June 1998 U.S. State Department "Supplement" to its 1997 Report on "Nazi Gold" contains a crucial chapter documenting the Vatican's role in the transfer of stolen assets entitled "The Fate of the Wartime Ustasha Treasury." Still newer reports are to be released in the coming months, including one from Argentina expected to detail the transfer of millions of dollars in gold from the Vatican to Argentina as payment for the emigration of Croatian Ustashe and other Nazi war criminals.

According to the most recent estimates, the total amount of stolen assets transferred out of Croatia by the Ustashe at the end of the war was at least $250 million. Based on conversion tables provided by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, this would now be worth $2.325 billion in December 1999 dollars. It is the position of the Jasenovac Research Institute that this entire amount plus interest must be paid to the remaining Survivors and their heirs, and to the heirs of all victims of the Ustashe genocide. This amount would only be a partial accounting for the crimes of genocide committed in wartime Yugoslavia by the Ustashe and other fascist forces; however it would provide the initial foundations for better relations in the future for the peoples of the region.

Several new plaintiffs have stepped forward since the re-filing to ask to be added to the suit. Among them is Eva Deutsch-Costabel, a Yugoslav Jew born in Zagreb and currently living in New York whose family's two businesses and home were stolen by the Ustashe regime and whose father was arrested and murdered. U.S. attorneys Easton and Levy are seeking additional plaintiffs for the case. To be added as a plaintiff to the lawsuit one needs to be either a Survivor of the Ustashe regime or a relative or heir of a victim of Ustashe crimes. If you are such an individual and you wish to become a plaintiff, or if you have vital information regarding this case, you are encouraged to contact either the Jasenovac Research Institute or the law firm of Thomas Easton at 707-464-4513 or [email protected]

The Jasenovac Research Institute urges everyone who is concerned with the search for justice for the victims of the Ustashe Holocaust to help us in our efforts to achieve a successful outcome of this historically important case.


The Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis
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Franz von Papen, another powerful Nazi, who was instrumental in setting up the concordat between Germany and the Vatican had this to say: "The Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy." If you are not aware of what a concordat is, a concordat is an agreement between the Vatican and a government. As far as the Vatican is concerned, that government that signed the concordat has now become a part of the government of God, and the Vatican fully intends to stabilize that government, give it divine protection, and give it international protection.

Signing the concordat is Cardinal Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII). By 1933 he was the Vatican Secretary of State. Second from left is Franz von Papen, a sinister Nazi and devout Roman Catholic who was Hitler's ace diplomat and the Vatican's agent in helping to bring Hitler to power.


Picture of Nazi Catholic Priests from AIZ Magazine, 1934
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Welcome Celebration for Bishop Konrad Graf von Preysing
in the Sportpalast, Berlin, 8 Sept. 1935
Note the Catholic Chi-Rho Cross to the right of the Nazi flag.
Chi and Rho are the first two letters of the Greek word for Christ.
The Chi Rho Cross, or warrior's cross, originated from
the monogram of Roman Emperor Constantine.
How fitting it appears next to a swastika.


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Hitler with Catholic Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo

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Hitler with Catholic Reich Bishop Muller

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Hitler greeting a Catholic Cardinal

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Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute

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Catholic Cardinal Michael Faulhaber at a Nazi rally

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Catholic Cardinal with Nazis

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Catholic Priests giving the Nazi salute

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Hitler at Nazi party rally

Notice the Catholic Church in the background as if it represented the foundation of the party.


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"I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits. Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party."

-Adolf Hitler

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"The S.S. organization had been constituted by Himmler according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. Their regulations and the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief of the S.S. was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' 'General' and the whole structure was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order."

-Walter Schellenberg, former chief of Nazi counter-espionage


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The Franciscan Monk, Father Miroslav Filipovic. Left as a priest, wearing his cassock. Right, in Ustashi uniform. Father Filipovic was the Commandant of the terrible concentration camp at Jasenovac.

Father Filipovic, chief ecclesiastical murderer of Croatia, although a Monk of the Order of St. Francis, was a fanatical Ustashi long before the Second World War. His political and religious ruthlessness can be judged by the fact that, while addressing a battalion of the armed Ustashi in the village of Drakulic, he killed an Orthodox child with his own hands.

Resenting the Orthodox reluctance to be "re-baptized," he told the armed Ustashi to "re-Christen these degenerates in the name of God. You follow my example." One thousand five hundred Orthodox Serbs were executed in one single day.

As Commandant of the Jasenovac Concentration Camp, Father Filipovic, aided by Father Zvonko Brekalo, Father Z. Lipovac, and Father Culina, caused the death of 40,000 men, women and children during the period of his administration.


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The Jasenovac concentration camp during the war.

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A Jewish prisoner forced to remove a ring upon his arrival at Jasenovac.

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Jewish children being sent to Jasenovac.

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Starving children at Jasenovac.

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A mass execution near the Jasenovac concentration camp.

Video of the conditions in Croatia during WW2-

Part 1 (3 min 18 sec)
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Part 2 (8 min 2 sec)
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The Beast in Bible Prophecy(antichrist)


Who is this Beast that forces the world to worship him and receive his Mark?


Identifying the Beast of Bible Prophecy doesn’t take a degree in theology or biblical languages. A King James Version of the Bible and some careful comparison of Bible passages will do.


The Bible clearly depicts the Beast as an enemy of God and His govern- ment. Through an understanding of prophetic symbols, we may identify him. Examining Revelation 13:1–10 we find that the Beast:


1. Rises from the sea.
2. Resembles a leopard, a bear, and a lion.
3. Has seven heads with ten crowned horns.
4. Receives a deadly wound in his head, which eventually heals.
5. Speaks blasphemous words.
6. Rules and oppresses for 42 prophetic months or 1260 years.
7. Receives authority and power from the dragon, identified in Revelation 12:9 as the devil.


This Beast sounds like a world-class monster! Who is he?


An important principle in understanding Bible prophecy is to allow the Bible to interpret itself. For instance, the Beast is seen rising from the sea, which in prophetic language means peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues (Revelation 17:15). By application, this power would arise from a densely populated area.


Next, we turn to the Old Testa-ment prophet, Daniel, for some help in understanding what the lion, the bear, and the leopard represent. In Daniel, chapters 2 and 7, we find a description of world superpowers in succession: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and an unnamed fourth power. In each chapter the same nations are represented, but with different symbols. In chapter 7 they are represented as a lion, a bear, a leopard, and a beast with ten horns.


By comparing Daniel’s vision with John’s, we find a ten-horned beast in both visions with a similar description. The successor of Greece was the Roman Empire. Is this the ten-horned Beast of Daniel, chapter 7 and Revelation, chapter 13 ? Partially.


THE EMPEROR’S CHILD


The old Roman Empire does not exist today, but an entity which evolved from it does—Constantine’s child, the Roman Catholic Church. Its popes still believe they hold spiritual authority over the entire world. The fourth beast is papal Rome. The remaining symbols will verify this.


Why does Revelation 13:1 use the descriptions of Babylon, Persia, and Greece to describe papal Rome? Daniel saw the lingering influence of the first three empires: “As con-cerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time” (Daniel 7:12).


How did papal Rome resemble Greece, Persia, and Babylon? Greek philosophy seeped into the teachings of the church. The Emperor Constantine practiced a Persian form of Sun worship known as Mithraism. When he made Christianity the religion of the Roman Empire, he legislated the veneration of Sunday to unite his pagan and Christian subjects. The papacy wholeheartedly embraced the new “Lord’s day.” Eventually, a death decree was passed against those who would not comply, like the decree of Nebuchadnezzar on the Babylonian plains of Dura.


The seven horns were seven tribes who made up the Western Roman Empire and whose kings gave the papacy its political strength. There had been ten tribes, but three were destroyed and plundered by the papacy when they refused to obey its mandates (Daniel 7:8 ).


What were the Beast’s great words of blasphemy? Pope Leo XIII said of himself and his papal predecessors, “We hold upon the earth the place of God Almighty.”1 The popes and the priests they ordain claim power to forgive sins. The Bible teaches that it is blasphemous for a mere man to claim this divine prerogative (Mark 2:7). Yet, the modern papacy, which is so readily admired by the world, still claims this power. John Paul II reprimanded Catholics for accepting the “widespread idea that one can obtain forgiveness directly from God,” and exhorted them to confess more often to their priests.2


The papacy boldly claims divine infallibility. During the ages of papal supremacy, countless millions of sincere Christians, who dared to question this claim, were eliminated. The iron rule of the papacy continued until she received her deadly wound in 1798 when Napoleon’s army captured and exiled the pope. This was exactly 1260 years (42 prophetic months) from the year 538 when Vigilius, Bishop of Rome, put the papacy into political power in Western Europe.



THE BEAST MAKES A COMEBACK


“And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast” (Revelation 13:3).


From its humbling blow 200 years ago, the papacy has made an astonishing comeback. Great nations of the world now send ambassadors to the Vatican, and their leaders seek audiences with the Pope. The re-emergence of the papacy in world politics is no human accomplishment. The Bible clearly states, “… and the dragon [the devil] gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority” (Revelation 13:2). No other explanation can be given for the charismatic return of the papacy to world prominence, nor the power it will hold when “all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life …” (Revelation 13:8 ).


Many world leaders believe the modern papacy bears no resemblance to the ancient papacy. The history of papal persecutions is considered a relic of the dark ages for which even John Paul II has apologized. Yet, the Bible predicts that the world will be forced—on pain of death—to acknowledge the Bishop of Rome’s unscriptural authority over every man’s conscience and over the Word of God. (Revelation 13:8, 11, 12).


There are many sincere Catholics who serve God to the best of their knowledge as taught by the Roman Catholic priesthood. Yet, today, God is seeking to enlighten all His children to the truths in the Bible, whatever faith they hold. No church, priest, or pastor can remove our obligation to follow God and His Word.


The Bible reveals that the papacy will not accomplish its return to religious supremacy without assistance. To aid in the papacy’s quest for worldwide dominance comes a second beast (Revelation 13:11). Described by John as lamblike, it manifests Christian principles and works deceptive miracles to “prove” that worshiping the Beast is wor-shiping God! (Revelation 13:11–14.) Then, as if her “proof” is not enough, she will force the world to accept the authority of the papacy.



THE BEAST WITH SPLIT PERSONALITY


Who is this lamblike beast who will speak and act like a dragon? How will this beast enforce the religious and political supremacy of the papacy?


We are given ample clues as to the identity of the second beast of Revelation, chapter 13.


1. In contrast to the first beast, it comes from the earth, or from an unpopulated region of the world.
2. Its horns, the symbols of its authority, are lamblike or gentle.
3. Although it begins like a lamb, it ends as a dragon.
4. It has the political power to force the inhabitants of the world to worship the first Beast and to receive his Mark.


Only one nation fits this description: The United States of America. What other nation has emerged from a previously unpopulated area and championed the Christian causes of freedom and representative government like the United States? And, what other nation has the
political power to force its agendas, through economic boycott or sheer military strength, like the United States?


One hundred years ago, Protestantism was so strong in American politics that no one believed the Vatican and the United States would ever cooperate in world affairs. But recent history bears a far different story. Public outcries from Protestants about exchange visits between the U.S. and the Vatican are now strangely absent. Instead, conservative Catholics and Protestants are allied in a culture war against the advocates of abortion, same-sex marriage, and pornography. The administration under former President Ronald Reagan openly admits to secret agreements with the Vatican to bring down European Communism.3 For the United States—the most Protestant nation in the world—and the Vatican, no historical impediment remains for their cooperation in enforcing the Mark of the Beast.
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"May the antichrist kill every single one who will not bow and follow the new age religion. May the antichrist burn every one of their holy books, kill any pastor, priest , mullah, rabbi, or other religious scholar amongst them,

May the antichrist poke out the eyes of every scribe who would write of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism; chop off their hands, boil them alive, flay their flesh, may the chosen one erase the existence of these three groups so that none may even remember the day they were conceived!

Hail the Antichrist, the Great Illuminator and bringer of a bright new age! Fuck Jehovah, Allah, and Yahweh! Fuck every saint, every prophet, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew, fuck them all, each and every one, and may even the very memory of them be forgotten for all time!"

this is getting bigger, as expected, with many agreeing posts. keep watching. this'll keep growing. new age murderous fascism. hitler's new mask and flavor. we had this 60 years ago, it's coming again. history repeats yet again. this time it's the long prophesied end. the anti-christ will come. this may very well be his mantra. his followers are already chomping at the bit.
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OP, Dubya is that really you son? Stop spredin the Skull&Bones message before the time! Now get back in to your coffin! NOW!
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"May the antichrist kill every single one who will not bow and follow the new age religion. May the antichrist burn every one of their holy books, kill any pastor, priest , mullah, rabbi, or other religious scholar amongst them,

May the antichrist poke out the eyes of every scribe who would write of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism; chop off their hands, boil them alive, flay their flesh, may the chosen one erase the existence of these three groups so that none may even remember the day they were conceived!

Hail the Antichrist, the Great Illuminator and bringer of a bright new age! Fuck Jehovah, Allah, and Yahweh! Fuck every saint, every prophet, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew, fuck them all, each and every one, and may even the very memory of them be forgotten for all time!"

this is getting bigger, as expected, with many agreeing posts. keep watching. this'll keep growing. new age murderous fascism. hitler's new mask and flavor. we had this 60 years ago, it's coming again. history repeats yet again. this time it's the long prophesied end. the anti-christ will come. this may very well be his mantra. his followers are already chomping at the bit.
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BRING IT ON, CAMEL DUNG!!!

GOD BLESS THE HOLY WAR!!!
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this is no joke, this asshole 279535 is advocating slaughter and wholesale murder here. wake the fuck up.
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I am not anti-christ, only anti-LIES!
....and our universal army strength stands at well over 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000++
....so, to hell with all brain-dead-useless sheeple!!!!!

I just signed up, have you?
Long live the anti-christ-lies empire!
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The funny thing is, the major three religions have no one to blame but themselves. They forced themselves into nearly every corner of the world. They enslaved others mentally and physically. Any who opposed them was tormented and treated like shit, both physically and mentally.

How many people have died due to these religions? How many people did the Jews kill in the Bible? Notice whenever this is brought up, Jews and Christians defend it, saying they did what they had to do, for their survival. Those people were evil and sinful and needed to be killed. They weren't human, but instead were "nephilim spawn" and therefore killing them was fine.

How many muslims slaughtered people simply because they would not convert to islam? Funny how muslims try to sugar coat it by saying that Islam gives you chances to convert before killing you. Gee, how nice for those people, to have some savage give them a chance to be a muslim before killing them.

And Christians. Oh boy. be they Catholic or protestant or Baptist or whatever they call themselves, they always manage to be so sickening. Constantly condemning others to Hell and screaming at the top of their lungs, all while claiming to love you and want to save you. I'm sure all the countless people killed during the Crusades were killed out of love. All those poor women and young girls accused of witchcraft. All those accused of being heretics and having to endure sickening tortures so awful even the most hardened serial killer would cringe.

And where are we now? Look at where we are, take a good long look. The United States, one of the greatest nations in history, being dragged through the goddamned mud by pathetic right wing christians constantly calling for war. How do YOU feel, knowing everyday some asshole like John Hagee is having meetings with OUR leaders, a man who believes we need to be involved in wars in the mideast so his savior can come for him? How do you feel, when you hear or see strange phenomenon, only to be told you are crazy, delusional, stupid; yet our president starts wars in volatile parts of the world, claiming his "God" spoke to him in private and told him he was doing a good thing? How do YOu feel knowing that a world who was already having some negative feelings about your country, now hates your land with a passion, all because a bunch of christian screwballs claim that god told them to start wars?

Oh and the muslims and jews, what great people they are huh? Muslims think it's ok to execute people for the most absurd bullshit. Yeah, a woman showing her hair in public is a sin and must be punished with murder, that makes so much sense. These imbeciles hold more regard for a fucking chunk of meteorite than they do for their own people! They have more love in their hearts for a piece of shit rock in Mecca than they do for fellow human beings!

If that wasn't bad enough, we have "God's Chosen People" running around screaming antisemite at anyone who dares to question the politics of their country. God forbid people be a little upset when hearing of Israeli soldiers running over little kids with tanks! Of course, Israel supporters(who are almost always jews or christians) try to throw the blame to the muslims, if maybe those muslims didn't suicide themselves so much, Israel wouldn't have to run over children with tanks! This make any sense at all to anyone with half a brain? Newsflash, it's wrong regardless of who does it. Muslims killing Israeli children is just as wrong as Israelis killing muslim children. But god forbid either side admit they are wrong, instead it's the blame game, and 'Oh not my fault, it's all THEIR fault!"

These people have had so very long to grow up and get their act together, but no, they prefer to act like childish imbeciles. Christians then take sides, arming Israel with weapons, yet arming the muslims with weapons when it helps them. Why do christians scream against Iran, then say nothing about arming Saudi Arabia, a repressive muslim regime with weaponry?

Isn't it obvious by now, who the true enemies are? It isn't "da joos". It isn't "christers". It isn't "islamofacists". Guess who it is?


It's ALL OF THEM! All three of these groups are evil and sick. They have caused more wars, more problems across the entire world for centuries. They foster ignorance and stupidity and hatred. Killing in the name of their gods. Burning books and destroying artifacts of knowledge, so that they can stay in control. I honestly believe the whole FO cover up stuff is a direct result of these assholes wanting more control and more power.

Think of this, if beings of another world came here in the open and it was known, these 3 religions would suffer the most. How many would start to truly notice the numerous loopholes in these theologies then and rebel? Good luck trying to edit or reinterpret the same bible quotes to save your asses, because it won't work. Bad enough these imbeciles inspire hatred against their own flesh and blood humans, but they even try to incite hatred against beings from other worlds. Regardless of whether you believe in such things, surely anyone can see the danger in groups of people preaching to us that anything that isn't human that reveals itself, is the enemy and must be killed.

Christians, Muslims, and Jews live for the deaths and pain of others and will NOT rest until all they disagree with is destroyed. So the only solution is for THEM to be destroyed first.


And there is someone who will do just that. these religions paint this person as evil, and refer to them as the antichrist. Even muslims believe there to be an antichrist who will rise against them. They all share this common belief that someone will try to destroy them and that such a person is evil. Well too bad for them, this person is the true hero in all this, and will lead the rest of the world to fight the final battle against these enemies.

Christians, Muslims, Jews, say goodbye to your reign. You have forced this entire world to endure your wars, your disputes, your constant bickering and judgements. And the time will now come soon, for YOU all to be judged, and suffer. You will finally be held accountable for all the evils you have wrought. A new belief system that benefits the world and encourages knowledge and understanding and true spirituality will take your place. And you will not be missed. You will all be destroyed, and none shall shed a tear. If being against you and your inane religions makes a person a devil, then I welcome the devil to come into this world and destroy you once and for all. Be this person named Satan, Lucifer, Azazel, Iblis, Lilith, Kali, Shiva, or what have you. I welcome them.
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The AntiChrist is my friend.

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You will find the Great Whore that rides the Beast, the Beast and Antichrist are all the same thing - it is a political power and a religious power with a man at the head speaking for it. The Antichrist is alive, seated in the spiritual temple of God on earth.


Revelation 13 describes the first beast.
Revelation 13
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
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16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Identifying the Beast.

1.Rises from the sea(verse 1)
2.Composite of the four beast of Daniel chapter 7(verse 2)
3.Dragon gives it power and authority(verse 2)
4.Receives a deadly wound(verse 3)
5.Deadly wound healed(verse 3)
6.Strong political power(verse 3,7)
7.Strong religious power(verse 3,8 )
8.Guilty of blasphemy(verse 1,5,6)
9.Wars with and overcomes the saints(verse 7)
10.Rules for 42 months(verse 5)
11.Number 666(verse 18 )

1. The sea in prophecy refers to people, or populated area. So the Beast would arise out of the populated nations. The papacy arose out of Rome Italy, the heart of western Europe.
[link to www.prophecyseminars.com]
The papacy arose in Italy among ten kingdoms.

Visigoths-Spain
Anglo Saxons-England
Franks-France
Alemani-Germany
Burgundians-Switzerland
Lombards-Italy
Suevi-Portugal
Heruli-extinct
Ostrogoths-extinct
Vandals-extinct

Revelation 17:15 The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

2. The four beast of Daniel 7, Babylon, Medio-Persia, Greece, Rome are depicted as part of the Antichrist , or the Beast, because the papacy incorporated pagan beliefs and practices from all four empires.

3. The papacy received its seat of authority, capitol and power from pagan Rome, a Dragon power who sought to destroy baby Jesus.(Matthew 2:16)

4. Napoleon inflicted the deadly wound to the papacy when he took the Pope captive. Napoleon decreed the papacy would be discontinued. August 1799.

5. The wound is healed, with political power restored, and the eyes of the nations are upon the Vatican.

6.More than 100 nations have representatives to the Vatican, making the papacy a strong political power.

7. There are estimates over 1 billion Catholics while the papacy also has strong religious power over other religions through the World Council of Churches and at the United Nations.

8. The papacy does great blasphemy when it claims to forgive sins(Luke 5:21) and claims to be God.

9. The papacy conducts an ongoing war to stamp out protestantism.

10.The papcy reigned for 42 prophetic months or 1260 years - from A.D.538-1798.

11. The number 666 is found throughout the Beast system as well as stamped right on the Pope's official title. VICARIUS FILII DEI (Vicar of the Son of God).
[link to www.sabbathtruth.com]
Horns are prophetic symbols for king or kingdoms

Daniel 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

The little horn (Dan.7:8) uprooted/extinct three kingdoms listed above . It is a little kingdom, the Vatican is the smallest country. It has a man speaking great things (in defiance of God's law) against God sitting at the head.

Daniel 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Here is how Dr.Mervyn Maxwell, a theologian and historian, described the results in volume 1, page 129, of his book God Cares: "The Catholic emperor Zeno(474-491) arranged a treaty with the Ostrogoths in 487 which resulted in the eradication of the kingdom of the Arian Heruls in 493. And Catholic emperor Justinian(527-565) exterminated the Arian Vandals in 534 and significantly broke the power of the Arian Ostrogoths in 538. Thus were Daniel's three horns-the Heruls, the Vandals and the Ostrogoths-'plucked up by the roots'"

A couple documentaries on topic;
This film explains the plight of Christian Israel in the end times as well as prophecy. 43min
[link to www.finalevents.com]
The Final Events of Bible Prophecy
[link to video.google.com]


This film explains the beast in great detail, without actually naming the papacy. It also covers many alleged prophets. Towards the end shows how secret societies are running things today and have fomented the revolutions starting with the Illuminati Jacobins French then the Russian with WWs. 2.15hrs
[link to www.cuttingedge.org]
[link to www.ordination.org]
Megiddo - The march to Armageddon
[link to video.google.com]
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I’m not sure what other religions say about the antichrist or the end times but in the bible it states that there will be an antichrist, that you will be required to take the mark or be killed, that you must deny Jesus or be killed, that you must worship him(antichrist) or be killed, now if all this stuff comes to pass (which I believe it will) would you not give your head a shake and figure the rest of what the bible says must be true and pray that its not to late to get right with god
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The counter-reformation came up with a false doctrine to counter these accusation called "futurism" in a nutshell here's futurism:

-The Jews returned to Israel that started some countdown where a temple will be built that the antichrist will seat and be evil culminating in seven year tribulation and armageddon-

ALL the above is futurism and false, any preacher, especially documentary propagators, promoting it knows better and is working for the vatican.

The antichrist is alive and seated in the temple of God already. The temple of God can in no way be in the state of Isreal for Jews that deny Christ.

The seven year, 70th week was after week #69 that started when Jesus was baptized and continued for 3 1/2 years where his ministery was cut off in the middle when he was crusified and died for the sins of man.
1. What is Historicism?

The Historicism is the historical interpretation of many of the prophecies in the book of Revelation, particularly regarding Antichrist. The Anti-Christ, Man of Sin, or Mystery of Iniquity is the system of Papacy. The Reformers had the historical interpretation of the Antichrist. Historicism has no "gap" between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel 9. The Prince being cut off in the midst of the week is Christ, the Messiah, who died in the midst of the 70th week of favor to natural Israel at the first advent. Historicism treats Revelation as a Book of signs and symbols.

2. What is Futurism?

The Futurist view of Revelation interprets the prophecies of Antichrist as a future literal man who deceives the world. The Futurist view interprets Revelation literally, not symbolically. There is a "gap" of over 2400 years between the 69th week and 70th week of Daniel 9. The Prince is the Man of Sin, Antichrist. The Futurist view was introduced by the Jesuits to counter the Reformation view of Papacy.
[link to www.revelation-today.com]
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The Mark of the Beast or the Seal of GOD

The commandments God devoted the most words to.


Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


Within this, the fourth commandment, is God's signature(seal) on his law.

Containing the same information as seals still do today:

The name given: the Lord
His title: Creator
His domain: heaven and earth to include all inhabitants


This identifies Gods people(Israel), they have his mark. Keeping another law that has been created or changed by man is the mark of the beast.

The mark in our forehead(the way we think), in our right hand(our actions).

Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Deuteronomy 6:2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee....8And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
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you funny...but your destiny will not be
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he will embrace all religions but you can only worship him and pray to him no one else that is bullshit fuck that the man is pure evil
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yes...the anti-christ came over last week to fix my toilet...nice guy.
 Quoting: -Ajax- 266715


Cool... so is it a plumber this time? Last time they sent a carpenter... didn't work very well then...
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OP,

WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT. THE EARTH WOULD BE A FINE PLACE WITHOUT ANY RELIGIONS, AND THAT IS THE PLAN.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALL.

YOU FORGET THAT THE NWO IS ALSO A RELIGION, A RELIGION OF FORCE, ENFORCED BY FORCE. AND IT IS NECESSARY BUT IT IS THE SECOND BEST OPTION BECAUSE THE FIRST OPTION IS IMPOSSIBLE; THAT IS, 'IF ONLY EVERYONE DECIDES TO BE GOOD'. SO FORCE MUST BE USED, OVERWHELMING AND RUTHLESS FORCE.

YOU FORGOT THAT IT IS NOT JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM BUT

ISLAM, TAOISM AND CHRISTIANITY/JUDAISM AS THE THREE GREAT RELIGIONS, AND CHRISTIANITY/JUDAISM AND ISLAM ARE AT WAR NOW, UNTIL THEY ARE BOTH DESTROYED,

LEAVING TAO, OR THE NEUTRALITY OF THE FAR EASTERN MIND.

THIS TAO SHOULD EMERGE AS THE MIND OF THE NEW WORLD.

THIS TAO, IS THE HIDDEN ORDER, THE VERY DEFINITION OF CHAOS.

THIS TAO, IS THE ORDER OF THE ORDERLY MIND AND COMES FROM WITHIN, NOT FROM FORCE WITHOUT.
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Personally I think people are way too focused on Aunty Christ. Really. It's a bit over the top to spend all that time typing when children are starving in India.
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The Anti-Christ will end up in the lake of fire along with the OP and anyone who buys into this demonic system. Christ is the only way.
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Have any of you addressed the issue that most of the islamic world is going to be obliterated BEFORE the son of perdition or psuedo-christ can be revealed anyways?

Also, its not 1 guy, but 2!!!!
Keep this in mind.
I see alot of stuff on Nazis and evil people, and the guy who eventually becomes the psuedo christ just may come from a bloodline of 1 of these dudes.
But if any of you think that the world would be taken over by a ruthless tyrannt that has ANY connection with ANYTHING to do however remotely with NAzis or any thing that resembles Nazism, your just lost.
NO, this pseudo-christ is going to have a very different agenda, a "universal" agenda. As in the universe!!

No one today anywhere on the planet is dumb enough or lost enough to buy into anything that has already been tried in the past like religions or communism or facisim or anything related to any of these doctrines in any way shape or form. People on this planet are too knowledgeable for that! No, it will be bigger than anything thought up by a mere man on planet earth.
The pseudo-christ does not have to try and get people to join, people are going to RUN to this guy! They are going to LOVE this guy! Because he is going to bring a NEW way of understanding yourself as a person. People are going to WANT to take his mark in the begining, no one is going to be forced to do it, they are going to BEG to do it!





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