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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1865756 Australia 12/29/2019 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Lord Jesus came to his temple in 1918 and that would mark the time of the cessation of the work of the holy spirit as an advocate, helper and comforter for the members of the church on earth." (Preservation, 1932, pg. 202-203) They are teaching that the Holy Spirit stopped in 1918, and since then all the teachings come from angels????? |
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User ID: 77467445 United States 12/29/2019 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fallen angels Jesus Christ is the only way to Salvation. 1 Corinthians 1611 AV KJ Bible Chapter 15 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77927192 United States 12/29/2019 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the teachings of Jesus Christ. Not the the teaching of angels. You should have a base. Jesus words compared to any other teaching. If the teaching does go along with his than it's gonna be helpful but quite the opposite. He is the base. Love God above all and your neighbor as yourself. Come in humility and ask him in your heart that you may be born again. With his spirit and be in his likeness. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78250450 Germany 12/29/2019 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the Church Which Bears the Name, Jehovah 6/5/06 From The Lord, Our God and Savior The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear Thus says The Lord: You have all gone astray, you are lost and void of understanding. Your knowledge is corrupt and shall come to nothing; indeed, all your works shall burn in the Day.[1] For you have not known Me, nor will you accept Me as I truly am, having segregated the Scriptures, both adding to and taking away to uphold your own way, polluting My name and My Glory, to the continual blaspheming of the Spirit. Thus you remain desolate, void of the Spirit, listening only to the sound of your own voices - LIES! A multitude of subtle deceptions, knowledge and commandments brought forth by MEN! Men of vanity who seek after human praise, saying, “We alone are righteous, we alone understand God, and we will fulfill His Word. Are we not His chosen elect, the sent?” Hypocrites, shall you speak for The Most High and declare My Word before the people, though I have not sent you?! Modern pharisees, stop speaking, for you do always bear false witness! You proclaim another Messiah, of which your forefathers formed in their own image! DESECRATION! O arrogant church of men, you know nothing yet as you ought to know, nor have you any wisdom at all! For you remain trapped, grievously entangled, caught in your own snare! Put away your pride therefore, that you may see! Cast off all this bitter arrogance, that you may hear! For it is the humble, penitent man who shall know God. And to know The Son is to know The Father, for The Father and The Son are One... For in the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God and The Word was God; and behold, The Word became flesh and dwelt among you[2], Immanu El.[3] Thus YahuShua is both Messiah and Lord, The ONLY Way, The ONLY Truth, The ONLY Life... Therefore embrace Him as He truly is, And not as you would have Him be; Only then will you begin to know Me, Only then will you begin to see... Yet continue to bear false witness, And only by great tribulation Shall you come into glory... Says The Lord. [1] 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 [2] John 1:1, John 1:14 [3] Matthew 1:23 ("God with us") link/source: [link to www.thevolumesoftruth.com (secure)] . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1865756 Australia 12/29/2019 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel – 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! (Galatians 1:6-8) |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1865756 Australia 12/29/2019 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quotes saying the watchtower guys get their messages from angels, not the Holy Spirit, published in the watchtower magazine: “But it seems certain that when Jesus came to his temple and began his work of judgment he would direct his holy angels to take the necessary action to cause the separation of the disapproved ones from the approved ones, and would use his angels to bear messages to them to direct the approved ones as to what to do…the angels are there for this purpose, and it is not the demonstration of the parakletos or holy spirit as a helper that directs men to do the separating work. If the holy spirit as a helper were directing the work, then there would be no good reason for employing the angels.” (p. 263) “Instead of the ‘servant’s’ being moved into action by the operation of the holy spirit as a helper, the Scriptures seem clearly to teach that the Lord directs his angels what to do and that they act under the supervision of the Lord in directing the remnant on earth concerning the course of action to take. -Rev. 8:1-7″ (p. 263) “It was the holy spirit that operated upon the minds of men in the early church to take certain action; but now the Lord Jesus himself has returned, is in his temple, and, acting by and through his holy angels, puts it into the mind and heart of the remnant class to take positive action to do a certain work; and this work has been going on, especially since 1922.” (p. 263) “After the holy spirit as an advocate or paraclete ceased to function in behalf of the consecrated, then the angels are employed in behalf of those who are being made ready for the kingdom. ‘For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all they ways’ -Ps. 91:11″ (Preservation, 1932 p. 51-52) [link to michaeljfelker.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72557959 United States 12/29/2019 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quotes saying the watchtower guys get their messages from angels, not the Holy Spirit, published in the watchtower magazine: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1865756 “But it seems certain that when Jesus came to his temple and began his work of judgment he would direct his holy angels to take the necessary action to cause the separation of the disapproved ones from the approved ones, and would use his angels to bear messages to them to direct the approved ones as to what to do…the angels are there for this purpose, and it is not the demonstration of the parakletos or holy spirit as a helper that directs men to do the separating work. If the holy spirit as a helper were directing the work, then there would be no good reason for employing the angels.” (p. 263) “Instead of the ‘servant’s’ being moved into action by the operation of the holy spirit as a helper, the Scriptures seem clearly to teach that the Lord directs his angels what to do and that they act under the supervision of the Lord in directing the remnant on earth concerning the course of action to take. -Rev. 8:1-7″ (p. 263) “It was the holy spirit that operated upon the minds of men in the early church to take certain action; but now the Lord Jesus himself has returned, is in his temple, and, acting by and through his holy angels, puts it into the mind and heart of the remnant class to take positive action to do a certain work; and this work has been going on, especially since 1922.” (p. 263) “After the holy spirit as an advocate or paraclete ceased to function in behalf of the consecrated, then the angels are employed in behalf of those who are being made ready for the kingdom. ‘For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all they ways’ -Ps. 91:11″ (Preservation, 1932 p. 51-52) [link to michaeljfelker.com (secure)] Look at the post above and the company you associate with. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1865756 Australia 12/29/2019 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quotes saying the watchtower guys get their messages from angels, not the Holy Spirit, published in the watchtower magazine: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1865756 “But it seems certain that when Jesus came to his temple and began his work of judgment he would direct his holy angels to take the necessary action to cause the separation of the disapproved ones from the approved ones, and would use his angels to bear messages to them to direct the approved ones as to what to do…the angels are there for this purpose, and it is not the demonstration of the parakletos or holy spirit as a helper that directs men to do the separating work. If the holy spirit as a helper were directing the work, then there would be no good reason for employing the angels.” (p. 263) “Instead of the ‘servant’s’ being moved into action by the operation of the holy spirit as a helper, the Scriptures seem clearly to teach that the Lord directs his angels what to do and that they act under the supervision of the Lord in directing the remnant on earth concerning the course of action to take. -Rev. 8:1-7″ (p. 263) “It was the holy spirit that operated upon the minds of men in the early church to take certain action; but now the Lord Jesus himself has returned, is in his temple, and, acting by and through his holy angels, puts it into the mind and heart of the remnant class to take positive action to do a certain work; and this work has been going on, especially since 1922.” (p. 263) “After the holy spirit as an advocate or paraclete ceased to function in behalf of the consecrated, then the angels are employed in behalf of those who are being made ready for the kingdom. ‘For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all they ways’ -Ps. 91:11″ (Preservation, 1932 p. 51-52) [link to michaeljfelker.com (secure)] Look at the post above and the company you associate with. who is "the company"? not sure what you're trying to say there. |