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Do the Jehovah's Witnesses teachings come from angels?

 
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Do the Jehovah's Witnesses teachings come from angels?
Since Rutherford’s time, the Society has made it clear that angels transmit information to the remnant of Jehovah’s Witnesses, particularly starting under Rutherford:

These angels are invisible to human eyes and are there to carry out the orders of the Lord. No doubt they first hear the instruction which the Lord issues to his remnant and then these invisible messengers pass such instruction on to the remnant. The facts show that the angels of the Lord with him as his temple have been thus rendering service unto the remnant since 1919.” (Vindication III, 1932, pg. 250)

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kitty Yeah, but don't ask which kind. lol
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"The Lord Jesus came to his temple in 1918 and that would mark the time of the cessation of the work of the holy spirit as an advocate, helper and comforter for the members of the church on earth." (Preservation, 1932, pg. 202-203)

They are teaching that the Holy Spirit stopped in 1918, and since then all the teachings come from angels?????

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NO
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I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll.
Revelation
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Clearly the aussie op is a trolling moran.
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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Clearly the aussie op is a trolling moran.
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Did you look up that quote in Rutherford's book "Vindication"?
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kitty Yeah, but don't ask which kind. lol
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which kind?
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which kind?
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I think it’s 1914 not 1918
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Archons are more likely
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Fallen angels
Jesus Christ is the only way to Salvation.
1 Corinthians 1611 AV KJ Bible
Chapter 15
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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kitty Yeah, but don't ask which kind. lol
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They freak out when they see a cross what does that tell you ?
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I think it’s 1914 not 1918
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why do you think that?
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It's a pedophile cult.
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I guess Sunday is pretty slow when you are disfellowshipped.
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I guess Sunday is pretty slow when you are disfellowshipped.
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fellowship becomes disfellowship
mob rules
they dont even think
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I guess Sunday is pretty slow when you are disfellowshipped.
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fellowship becomes disfellowship
mob rules
they dont even think
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I think someone has had a slow Sunday.
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I guess Sunday is pretty slow when you are disfellowshipped.
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fellowship becomes disfellowship
mob rules
they dont even think
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I think someone has had a slow Sunday.
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life in Jehovah fast lane?
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Read the teachings of Jesus Christ. Not the the teaching of angels. You should have a base. Jesus words compared to any other teaching. If the teaching does go along with his than it's gonna be helpful but quite the opposite. He is the base. Love God above all and your neighbor as yourself. Come in humility and ask him in your heart that you may be born again. With his spirit and be in his likeness.
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I have to rephrase typing than my mind

If any other teaching does not go along with what Jesus Christ taught than it is evil and against you.
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It's a pedophile cult.
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I believe you're right
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This cult is bad of your mental health.
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To the Church Which Bears the Name, Jehovah

6/5/06 From The Lord, Our God and Savior
The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy
For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Thus says The Lord:
You have all gone astray, you are lost and void of understanding. Your knowledge is corrupt and shall come to nothing; indeed, all your works shall burn in the Day.[1] For you have not known Me, nor will you accept Me as I truly am, having segregated the Scriptures, both adding to and taking away to uphold your own way, polluting My name and My Glory, to the continual blaspheming of the Spirit.
Thus you remain desolate, void of the Spirit, listening only to the sound of your own voices - LIES! A multitude of subtle deceptions, knowledge and commandments brought forth by MEN! Men of vanity who seek after human praise, saying, “We alone are righteous, we alone understand God, and we will fulfill His Word. Are we not His chosen elect, the sent?”
Hypocrites, shall you speak for The Most High and declare My Word before the people, though I have not sent you?! Modern pharisees, stop speaking, for you do always bear false witness! You proclaim another Messiah, of which your forefathers formed in their own image! DESECRATION!
O arrogant church of men, you know nothing yet as you ought to know, nor have you any wisdom at all! For you remain trapped, grievously entangled, caught in your own snare! Put away your pride therefore, that you may see! Cast off all this bitter arrogance, that you may hear! For it is the humble, penitent man who shall know God. And to know The Son is to know The Father, for The Father and The Son are One... For in the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God and The Word was God; and behold, The Word became flesh and dwelt among you[2], Immanu El.[3]


Thus YahuShua is both Messiah and Lord,
The ONLY Way, The ONLY Truth, The ONLY Life...

Therefore embrace Him as He truly is,
And not as you would have Him be;
Only then will you begin to know Me,
Only then will you begin to see...

Yet continue to bear false witness,
And only by great tribulation
Shall you come into glory...


Says The Lord.



[1] 1 Corinthians 3:11-15
[2] John 1:1, John 1:14
[3] Matthew 1:23 ("God with us")


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6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel – 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!

(Galatians 1:6-8)
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I guess Sunday is pretty slow when you are disfellowshipped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72557959


fellowship becomes disfellowship
mob rules
they dont even think
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70389085


I think someone has had a slow Sunday.
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life in Jehovah fast lane?
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You on the broad & spacious? Must be nice, until it's not.
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NO.
IF JWS were capable of rational thought they'd as where all the money comes from to build those temples all around the world when there is no tithing.
But they aren't so they don't.
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quotes saying the watchtower guys get their messages from angels, not the Holy Spirit, published in the watchtower magazine:


“But it seems certain that when Jesus came to his temple and began his work of judgment he would direct his holy angels to take the necessary action to cause the separation of the disapproved ones from the approved ones, and would use his angels to bear messages to them to direct the approved ones as to what to do…the angels are there for this purpose, and it is not the demonstration of the parakletos or holy spirit as a helper that directs men to do the separating work. If the holy spirit as a helper were directing the work, then there would be no good reason for employing the angels.” (p. 263)

“Instead of the ‘servant’s’ being moved into action by the operation of the holy spirit as a helper, the Scriptures seem clearly to teach that the Lord directs his angels what to do and that they act under the supervision of the Lord in directing the remnant on earth concerning the course of action to take. -Rev. 8:1-7″ (p. 263)

“It was the holy spirit that operated upon the minds of men in the early church to take certain action; but now the Lord Jesus himself has returned, is in his temple, and, acting by and through his holy angels, puts it into the mind and heart of the remnant class to take positive action to do a certain work; and this work has been going on, especially since 1922.” (p. 263)

“After the holy spirit as an advocate or paraclete ceased to function in behalf of the consecrated, then the angels are employed in behalf of those who are being made ready for the kingdom. ‘For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all they ways’ -Ps. 91:11″ (Preservation, 1932 p. 51-52)

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Their teachings come from Satan himself.
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quotes saying the watchtower guys get their messages from angels, not the Holy Spirit, published in the watchtower magazine:


“But it seems certain that when Jesus came to his temple and began his work of judgment he would direct his holy angels to take the necessary action to cause the separation of the disapproved ones from the approved ones, and would use his angels to bear messages to them to direct the approved ones as to what to do…the angels are there for this purpose, and it is not the demonstration of the parakletos or holy spirit as a helper that directs men to do the separating work. If the holy spirit as a helper were directing the work, then there would be no good reason for employing the angels.” (p. 263)

“Instead of the ‘servant’s’ being moved into action by the operation of the holy spirit as a helper, the Scriptures seem clearly to teach that the Lord directs his angels what to do and that they act under the supervision of the Lord in directing the remnant on earth concerning the course of action to take. -Rev. 8:1-7″ (p. 263)

“It was the holy spirit that operated upon the minds of men in the early church to take certain action; but now the Lord Jesus himself has returned, is in his temple, and, acting by and through his holy angels, puts it into the mind and heart of the remnant class to take positive action to do a certain work; and this work has been going on, especially since 1922.” (p. 263)

“After the holy spirit as an advocate or paraclete ceased to function in behalf of the consecrated, then the angels are employed in behalf of those who are being made ready for the kingdom. ‘For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all they ways’ -Ps. 91:11″ (Preservation, 1932 p. 51-52)

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Look at the post above and the company you associate with.
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quotes saying the watchtower guys get their messages from angels, not the Holy Spirit, published in the watchtower magazine:


“But it seems certain that when Jesus came to his temple and began his work of judgment he would direct his holy angels to take the necessary action to cause the separation of the disapproved ones from the approved ones, and would use his angels to bear messages to them to direct the approved ones as to what to do…the angels are there for this purpose, and it is not the demonstration of the parakletos or holy spirit as a helper that directs men to do the separating work. If the holy spirit as a helper were directing the work, then there would be no good reason for employing the angels.” (p. 263)

“Instead of the ‘servant’s’ being moved into action by the operation of the holy spirit as a helper, the Scriptures seem clearly to teach that the Lord directs his angels what to do and that they act under the supervision of the Lord in directing the remnant on earth concerning the course of action to take. -Rev. 8:1-7″ (p. 263)

“It was the holy spirit that operated upon the minds of men in the early church to take certain action; but now the Lord Jesus himself has returned, is in his temple, and, acting by and through his holy angels, puts it into the mind and heart of the remnant class to take positive action to do a certain work; and this work has been going on, especially since 1922.” (p. 263)

“After the holy spirit as an advocate or paraclete ceased to function in behalf of the consecrated, then the angels are employed in behalf of those who are being made ready for the kingdom. ‘For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all they ways’ -Ps. 91:11″ (Preservation, 1932 p. 51-52)

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Look at the post above and the company you associate with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72557959


who is "the company"? not sure what you're trying to say there.





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