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Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover.

 
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Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover.
interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this?

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much less than 50

U.S. spies are no longer being tailed by foreign governments in about 30 different countries because advances in facial recognition, biometrics and artificial intelligence have made it almost impossible for the agents to hide.

Whereas governments would once physically follow CIA officers, facial recognition at airports and general CCTV surveillance in those countries makes it far easier to track people.
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buh buy 007
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handlers control assets... so, this doesn't really pose much trouble. obviously, the james bond spy doesn't exist. there are handlers (filed agents) and the people they run. so, as long as the field agent has a good cover and was ever made, it shouldn't matter, right?
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this is interesting:

Officials say Chinese intelligence officials have taken to carrying out dead drops in remote locations.

They also started exchanging physical intelligence or objects in public places.

'It was unheard of for the Chinese,' an official said. 'The conclusion was that they felt the world was too digital and traceable.'

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buh buy 007
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really, is that all you have to add?

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buh buy 007
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That’s the type of insight and attitude that makes America Great Again.
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buh buy 007
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really, is that all you have to add?

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one star
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buh buy 007
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really, is that all you have to add?

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one star
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now i'm so sad and hurt. fuck off moran
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this is interesting:

Officials say Chinese intelligence officials have taken to carrying out dead drops in remote locations.

They also started exchanging physical intelligence or objects in public places.

'It was unheard of for the Chinese,' an official said. 'The conclusion was that they felt the world was too digital and traceable.'

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Everybody knows now. They have agents in literally every country in the world. At least hundreds of thousands of them, and everyone knows. They don't care because countries can't fully admit the reality that spy games are playing out right in city squares without causing mass hysteria, and these have multi-citizenship and work real jobs in important sectors.

Could you imagine if half of IT was escorted out the door by men in black? The disruption to business would be catastrophic and it would cause panic. They can't do anything about it.
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this is interesting:

Officials say Chinese intelligence officials have taken to carrying out dead drops in remote locations.

They also started exchanging physical intelligence or objects in public places.

'It was unheard of for the Chinese,' an official said. 'The conclusion was that they felt the world was too digital and traceable.'

 Quoting: JJ Johns


Everybody knows now. They have agents in literally every country in the world. At least hundreds of thousands of them, and everyone knows. They don't care because countries can't fully admit the reality that spy games are playing out right in city squares without causing mass hysteria, and these have multi-citizenship and work real jobs in important sectors.

Could you imagine if half of IT was escorted out the door by men in black? The disruption to business would be catastrophic and it would cause panic. They can't do anything about it.
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i think there is more to this story than it seems... but thanks for the interesting take on it.
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handlers control assets... so, this doesn't really pose much trouble. obviously, the james bond spy doesn't exist. there are handlers (filed agents) and the people they run. so, as long as the field agent has a good cover and was ever made, it shouldn't matter, right?
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Shortly, the average Joe will be able to take photos from gatherings, protests, etc., and match faces with real names.

Or political gatherings, and identify who the informants are.

The possibilities are endless...
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handlers control assets... so, this doesn't really pose much trouble. obviously, the james bond spy doesn't exist. there are handlers (filed agents) and the people they run. so, as long as the field agent has a good cover and was ever made, it shouldn't matter, right?
 Quoting: JJ Johns


Shortly, the average Joe will be able to take photos from gatherings, protests, etc., and match faces with real names.

Or political gatherings, and identify who the informants are.

The possibilities are endless...
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facebook already does this and has refined it's facial recognition... and morans who are on facebook helped them to do so. i already have some photo programs that have facial recognition built in. it's scary.
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interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this?

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Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all.
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interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this?

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Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all.
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i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured.
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interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this?

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A great article. Yes, facial recognition would really mess up a spy or secret agent.

Maybe we are past the time where we need to spy on each other?

I pose this as a rhetorical question.

Do agents from various countries really need to slink around cloak and dagger style trying to get info on people?

I think the internet has made this unnecessary. They are still spying 1955 style.

Time for the spooks to get with the new program! chuckle
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lol straight from the daily fail, the mouth piece of the spooks,..yeah im sure they are shitting their pants as they sit back and laugh their tits off at the muppets that believe this shit lol
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interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this?

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A great article. Yes, facial recognition would really mess up a spy or secret agent.

Maybe we are past the time where we need to spy on each other?

I pose this as a rhetorical question.

Do agents from various countries really need to slink around cloak and dagger style trying to get info on people?

I think the internet has made this unnecessary. They are still spying 1955 style.

Time for the spooks to get with the new program! chuckle
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yes, most spying these days are done electronically. but, having moles still could play crucial roles. but again, these are usually not cia agents, but assets run by handlers and locals that would not show up on these facial lists
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lol straight from the daily fail, the mouth piece of the spooks,..yeah im sure they are shitting their pants as they sit back and laugh their tits off at the muppets that believe this shit lol
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as i mentioned a few times already, i think there is more to this than the wrote about. cover story of some kind... don't know but it stinks
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interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this?

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Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all.
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i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured.
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That's what prosthetics are dude.
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interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this?

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Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all.
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i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured.
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That's what prosthetics are dude.
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not what i am referring to. i don't mean sticking on a fake nose and chin... hard to explain. but whatever.
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Even these cheap ass things mess witb it bad.
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Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all.
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i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured.
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That's what prosthetics are dude.
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not what i am referring to. i don't mean sticking on a fake nose and chin... hard to explain. but whatever.
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You mean like mission impossible masks?
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i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured.
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That's what prosthetics are dude.
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not what i am referring to. i don't mean sticking on a fake nose and chin... hard to explain. but whatever.
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You mean like mission impossible masks?
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no, not at all. imagine a fishline like string that can be fastened around your ears and face the distort the angles of your check bones, etc.
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i think there is more to this story than it seems... but thanks for the interesting take on it.
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Admitting the problem is also kryptonite to the mass immigration agenda. If you tell the people it's happening on a huge scale even some lefties are going to want to close the borders. And they'll wonder why we're not only still letting them in but making it easier for them (that's the way it is in Canada at least).
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That's what prosthetics are dude.
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not what i am referring to. i don't mean sticking on a fake nose and chin... hard to explain. but whatever.
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You mean like mission impossible masks?
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no, not at all. imagine a fishline like string that can be fastened around your ears and face the distort the angles of your check bones, etc.
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Oh sure, but it'll be an obvious fake. No good for real spying. Break in style spying sure, but a ski mask would do the same trick and no give them something to work with all.
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Dna test YOUR LEADERSHIP!!!!

Until then it’s down we go.
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interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this?

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