Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. | |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. much less than 50 U.S. spies are no longer being tailed by foreign governments in about 30 different countries because advances in facial recognition, biometrics and artificial intelligence have made it almost impossible for the agents to hide. Whereas governments would once physically follow CIA officers, facial recognition at airports and general CCTV surveillance in those countries makes it far easier to track people. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. handlers control assets... so, this doesn't really pose much trouble. obviously, the james bond spy doesn't exist. there are handlers (filed agents) and the people they run. so, as long as the field agent has a good cover and was ever made, it shouldn't matter, right? . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. this is interesting: Officials say Chinese intelligence officials have taken to carrying out dead drops in remote locations. They also started exchanging physical intelligence or objects in public places. 'It was unheard of for the Chinese,' an official said. 'The conclusion was that they felt the world was too digital and traceable.' . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
JJ Johns
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JJ Johns
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JJ Johns
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78282282 Canada 12/30/2019 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. this is interesting: Quoting: JJ Johns Officials say Chinese intelligence officials have taken to carrying out dead drops in remote locations. They also started exchanging physical intelligence or objects in public places. 'It was unheard of for the Chinese,' an official said. 'The conclusion was that they felt the world was too digital and traceable.' Everybody knows now. They have agents in literally every country in the world. At least hundreds of thousands of them, and everyone knows. They don't care because countries can't fully admit the reality that spy games are playing out right in city squares without causing mass hysteria, and these have multi-citizenship and work real jobs in important sectors. Could you imagine if half of IT was escorted out the door by men in black? The disruption to business would be catastrophic and it would cause panic. They can't do anything about it. |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. this is interesting: Quoting: JJ Johns Officials say Chinese intelligence officials have taken to carrying out dead drops in remote locations. They also started exchanging physical intelligence or objects in public places. 'It was unheard of for the Chinese,' an official said. 'The conclusion was that they felt the world was too digital and traceable.' Everybody knows now. They have agents in literally every country in the world. At least hundreds of thousands of them, and everyone knows. They don't care because countries can't fully admit the reality that spy games are playing out right in city squares without causing mass hysteria, and these have multi-citizenship and work real jobs in important sectors. Could you imagine if half of IT was escorted out the door by men in black? The disruption to business would be catastrophic and it would cause panic. They can't do anything about it. i think there is more to this story than it seems... but thanks for the interesting take on it. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75413347 United States 12/30/2019 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. handlers control assets... so, this doesn't really pose much trouble. obviously, the james bond spy doesn't exist. there are handlers (filed agents) and the people they run. so, as long as the field agent has a good cover and was ever made, it shouldn't matter, right? Quoting: JJ Johns Shortly, the average Joe will be able to take photos from gatherings, protests, etc., and match faces with real names. Or political gatherings, and identify who the informants are. The possibilities are endless... |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. handlers control assets... so, this doesn't really pose much trouble. obviously, the james bond spy doesn't exist. there are handlers (filed agents) and the people they run. so, as long as the field agent has a good cover and was ever made, it shouldn't matter, right? Quoting: JJ Johns Shortly, the average Joe will be able to take photos from gatherings, protests, etc., and match faces with real names. Or political gatherings, and identify who the informants are. The possibilities are endless... facebook already does this and has refined it's facial recognition... and morans who are on facebook helped them to do so. i already have some photo programs that have facial recognition built in. it's scary. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76490620 United States 12/30/2019 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this? Quoting: JJ Johns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all. |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this? Quoting: JJ Johns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all. i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Reggie Bannister
User ID: 72788982 United States 12/30/2019 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this? Quoting: JJ Johns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] A great article. Yes, facial recognition would really mess up a spy or secret agent. Maybe we are past the time where we need to spy on each other? I pose this as a rhetorical question. Do agents from various countries really need to slink around cloak and dagger style trying to get info on people? I think the internet has made this unnecessary. They are still spying 1955 style. Time for the spooks to get with the new program! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78295063 New Zealand 12/30/2019 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. lol straight from the daily fail, the mouth piece of the spooks,..yeah im sure they are shitting their pants as they sit back and laugh their tits off at the muppets that believe this shit lol |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this? Quoting: JJ Johns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] A great article. Yes, facial recognition would really mess up a spy or secret agent. Maybe we are past the time where we need to spy on each other? I pose this as a rhetorical question. Do agents from various countries really need to slink around cloak and dagger style trying to get info on people? I think the internet has made this unnecessary. They are still spying 1955 style. Time for the spooks to get with the new program! yes, most spying these days are done electronically. but, having moles still could play crucial roles. but again, these are usually not cia agents, but assets run by handlers and locals that would not show up on these facial lists . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. lol straight from the daily fail, the mouth piece of the spooks,..yeah im sure they are shitting their pants as they sit back and laugh their tits off at the muppets that believe this shit lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78295063 as i mentioned a few times already, i think there is more to this than the wrote about. cover story of some kind... don't know but it stinks . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76490620 United States 12/30/2019 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this? Quoting: JJ Johns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all. i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured. That's what prosthetics are dude. |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this? Quoting: JJ Johns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all. i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured. That's what prosthetics are dude. not what i am referring to. i don't mean sticking on a fake nose and chin... hard to explain. but whatever. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76490620 United States 12/30/2019 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. [link to www.mostlydead.com (secure)] [link to www.mostlydead.com (secure)] Even these cheap ass things mess witb it bad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76490620 United States 12/30/2019 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76490620 Facial reconstructive surgery, even just a nose job fucks it up. So do prosthetics. So there is really nothing to this at all. i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured. That's what prosthetics are dude. not what i am referring to. i don't mean sticking on a fake nose and chin... hard to explain. but whatever. You mean like mission impossible masks? |
JJ Johns
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78129343 Switzerland 12/30/2019 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. ... Quoting: JJ Johns i think there will soon be easily wearable "masks" that will fuck with it soon available. ones tht you can't notice easily and that only change some of the points in your face that are measured. That's what prosthetics are dude. not what i am referring to. i don't mean sticking on a fake nose and chin... hard to explain. but whatever. You mean like mission impossible masks? no, not at all. imagine a fishline like string that can be fastened around your ears and face the distort the angles of your check bones, etc. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78282282 Canada 12/30/2019 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. i think there is more to this story than it seems... but thanks for the interesting take on it. Quoting: JJ Johns Admitting the problem is also kryptonite to the mass immigration agenda. If you tell the people it's happening on a huge scale even some lefties are going to want to close the borders. And they'll wonder why we're not only still letting them in but making it easier for them (that's the way it is in Canada at least). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76490620 United States 12/30/2019 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. not what i am referring to. i don't mean sticking on a fake nose and chin... hard to explain. but whatever. You mean like mission impossible masks? no, not at all. imagine a fishline like string that can be fastened around your ears and face the distort the angles of your check bones, etc. Oh sure, but it'll be an obvious fake. No good for real spying. Break in style spying sure, but a ski mask would do the same trick and no give them something to work with all. |
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JJ Johns
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2867365 United States 12/31/2019 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Will the digital age kill off spying? CIA in crisis as facial recognition...make it difficult for agents to maintain cover. interesting article and something i have long thought of. but, is there more to this? Quoting: JJ Johns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] My foot in assholes cures spying. |