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You Christians are following the teachings of Paul not Jesus

 
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That's why you Pagans don't accept things like the Gospel of Barnabas and hide away from the Epistle of James because they work against you and in fact support more Islam as the truth.
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Christianity does not =/= equal paganism, that's your opinion and not historical fact.
 Quoting: Sir Lurks-a-lot 78157787


Most so called Christians worship "the trinity" which is a pagan god.

They worship a false god, and Christ, in "the third person" who doesn't even exist.

As Christ is the Spirit.
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"Most" true Christians follow the Bible and worship God through His son, Jesus. The trinity that you refer to, I agree, is a construct of man and man is fallible.
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Amazing, we agree.
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There are no sacrifices mentioned among the 10 Commandments duh
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there are 613 laws ancient israel was ordered to keep, among them, sacrifice in the temple for sins. sound to me you think we live the new covenant (jeremiah 31:31-34).
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I told you already I am no Israelite, silly you.
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then stick to something you know about, or make an effort in reading and understanding the bible and then come back later and ask.
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I study the Bible for 30+ years, no rocket science. Just stop with your biases.
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That's why you Pagans don't accept things like the Gospel of Barnabas and hide away from the Epistle of James because they work against you and in fact support more Islam as the truth.
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I would encourage you to visit this website and do some reading friend.

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we christians dont care about what others define as monotheism, morontheism etc... people that follow satan arent our judge. God is. And the christian God has allways been one.

Sometimes when talking to muslims about the trinity, it feels like talking to mentally challenged people, since they are so dumbed down. A 5 year old can understand this. But lets try to illustrate the trinity this way:

OLD testament (Father), NEW testament (Son), you see both belong together (Holy spirit) = 1 bible. 3 in 1, but not 3 bibles that are the word of 3 Gods.
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Again,

if you follow other god than the biblical God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob you are no monotheist, just deluding yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


right... And christians are the only ones that follow that God.
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You follow the Roman Catholic "trinity" which most certainly is a non-god.
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its not a god for you, since you follow satan and your destiny is hell and eternal damnation. Satan is one, and he is the father of noone. But for any child of God, we follow God of the bible, which is the trinity.
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Again,

if you follow other god than the biblical God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob you are no monotheist, just deluding yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


right... And christians are the only ones that follow that God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


You follow the Roman Catholic "trinity" which most certainly is a non-god.
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


its not a god for you, since you follow satan and your destiny is hell and eternal damnation. Satan is one, and he is the father of noone. But for any child of God, we follow God of the bible, which is the trinity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309



LOL the irony is getting perfected.
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there are 613 laws ancient israel was ordered to keep, among them, sacrifice in the temple for sins. sound to me you think we live the new covenant (jeremiah 31:31-34).
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I told you already I am no Israelite, silly you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


then stick to something you know about, or make an effort in reading and understanding the bible and then come back later and ask.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


I study the Bible for 30+ years, no rocket science. Just stop with your biases.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


aha ... so you know the Word of God for example in Jeremiah 1 has hands then, and you also know Israel means "wrestling with God" and that Jacob which got the name Israel since he litteraly wrestled with God, and others in the bible, worship the angel of the Lord (pre-incarnation of Jesus) as God, in the old testament.

Then how come you are ignorant about the trinity?
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Again,

if you follow other god than the biblical God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob you are no monotheist, just deluding yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


right... And christians are the only ones that follow that God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


You follow the Roman Catholic "trinity" which most certainly is a non-god.
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


its not a god for you, since you follow satan and your destiny is hell and eternal damnation. Satan is one, and he is the father of noone. But for any child of God, we follow God of the bible, which is the trinity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


Paul
Was
Not
A
Trinitarian.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veil is removed in Christ.
whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
the Lord is the Spirit.
we preach Jesus Christ as Lord,"

Trins like yourself preach ANOTHER Lord, ANOTHER Spirit, ANOTHER Christ.

JUST like Muslims!

epiclol
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I told you already I am no Israelite, silly you.
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then stick to something you know about, or make an effort in reading and understanding the bible and then come back later and ask.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


I study the Bible for 30+ years, no rocket science. Just stop with your biases.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


aha ... so you know the Word of God for example in Jeremiah 1 has hands then, and you also know Israel means "wrestling with God" and that Jacob which got the name Israel since he litteraly wrestled with God, and others in the bible, worship the angel of the Lord (pre-incarnation of Jesus) as God, in the old testament.

Then how come you are ignorant about the trinity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
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LOL the irony is getting perfected.
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Try your irony here:

Zechariah 12:10: "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

...by answering us this, so we all can hear you: WHO is being pierced?
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right... And christians are the only ones that follow that God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


You follow the Roman Catholic "trinity" which most certainly is a non-god.
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


its not a god for you, since you follow satan and your destiny is hell and eternal damnation. Satan is one, and he is the father of noone. But for any child of God, we follow God of the bible, which is the trinity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


Paul
Was
Not
A
Trinitarian.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veil is removed in Christ.
whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
the Lord is the Spirit.
we preach Jesus Christ as Lord,"

Trins like yourself preach ANOTHER Lord, ANOTHER Spirit, ANOTHER Christ.

JUST like Muslims!

epiclol
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


Paul worshiped Jesus instead of the God of his.
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That's why you Pagans don't accept things like the Gospel of Barnabas and hide away from the Epistle of James because they work against you and in fact support more Islam as the truth.
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James was his brother and very close to him and wrote an excellent section.

Tell me OP do you accept John 6::40+ about the SATANISM Jesus never gave? Look it up.
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then stick to something you know about, or make an effort in reading and understanding the bible and then come back later and ask.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


I study the Bible for 30+ years, no rocket science. Just stop with your biases.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


aha ... so you know the Word of God for example in Jeremiah 1 has hands then, and you also know Israel means "wrestling with God" and that Jacob which got the name Israel since he litteraly wrestled with God, and others in the bible, worship the angel of the Lord (pre-incarnation of Jesus) as God, in the old testament.

Then how come you are ignorant about the trinity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


Deut 32:17
They sacrificed to demons, not God, to gods that they did not know, to new gods that came up recently, which your fathers did not dread.

Revelation 16:13; 13:4; 12:9
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon,... and they worshipped the dragon. Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:
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Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
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They will look just as stupid as you do when confronting them with these passages.
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LOL the irony is getting perfected.
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Try your irony here:

Zechariah 12:10: "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

...by answering us this, so we all can hear you: WHO is being pierced?
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the messiah ... and ?
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You follow the Roman Catholic "trinity" which most certainly is a non-god.
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its not a god for you, since you follow satan and your destiny is hell and eternal damnation. Satan is one, and he is the father of noone. But for any child of God, we follow God of the bible, which is the trinity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


Paul
Was
Not
A
Trinitarian.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veil is removed in Christ.
whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
the Lord is the Spirit.
we preach Jesus Christ as Lord,"

Trins like yourself preach ANOTHER Lord, ANOTHER Spirit, ANOTHER Christ.

JUST like Muslims!

epiclol
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


Paul worshiped Jesus instead of the God of his.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


Malachi 2:10
10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?
Father; and to my God, and your God.

1 Corinthians 8:6
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things,

“But when it pleased God…to reveal His Son in me.”—Galatians 1:15-16
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its not a god for you, since you follow satan and your destiny is hell and eternal damnation. Satan is one, and he is the father of noone. But for any child of God, we follow God of the bible, which is the trinity.
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Paul
Was
Not
A
Trinitarian.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veil is removed in Christ.
whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
the Lord is the Spirit.
we preach Jesus Christ as Lord,"

Trins like yourself preach ANOTHER Lord, ANOTHER Spirit, ANOTHER Christ.

JUST like Muslims!

epiclol
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


Paul worshiped Jesus instead of the God of his.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


Malachi 2:10
10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?
Father; and to my God, and your God.

1 Corinthians 8:6
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things,

“But when it pleased God…to reveal His Son in me.”—Galatians 1:15-16
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It is not your or his lip service that matters, but his teaching lawlessness for pagans.
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Paul
Was
Not
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Trinitarian.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veil is removed in Christ.
whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
the Lord is the Spirit.
we preach Jesus Christ as Lord,"

Trins like yourself preach ANOTHER Lord, ANOTHER Spirit, ANOTHER Christ.

JUST like Muslims!

epiclol
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


Paul worshiped Jesus instead of the God of his.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


Malachi 2:10
10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?
Father; and to my God, and your God.

1 Corinthians 8:6
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things,

“But when it pleased God…to reveal His Son in me.”—Galatians 1:15-16
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


It is not your or his lip service that matters, but his teaching lawlessness for pagans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


The LAW (WORD) is THE SPIRIT (CHRIST).

That's what Paul taught.

That's what the OT teaches.

The LAW is not the tanakh. It's Jesus. (The Holy Spirit).
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LOL the irony is getting perfected.
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Try your irony here:

Zechariah 12:10: "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

...by answering us this, so we all can hear you: WHO is being pierced?
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the messiah ... and ?
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If the Messiah pour the spirit of grace upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, who is he?
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Same way Moses had to cut a deal

With the 80000 odd Hebrews

Who hated having to leave Egypt

But were useful to God's plan
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Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
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They will look just as stupid as you do when confronting them with these passages.
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The Greatest Commandment
(Deuteronomy 6:1-19; Mark 12:28-34)

34And when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they themselves gathered together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested Him with a question: 36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?”

37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’e 38This is the first and greatest commandment.

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You and yourlike Paulians are heading for Hell ...
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A prophecy of Jesus concerning the worldwide distribution of the Bible, the word of God

Matthew 24:14

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
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LOL the irony is getting perfected.
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Try your irony here:

Zechariah 12:10: "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

...by answering us this, so we all can hear you: WHO is being pierced?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


the messiah ... and ?
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If the Messiah pour the spirit of grace upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, who is he?
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still just the messiah, nothing more.
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David is the great great grandson

Of Ruth the stranger

Witch should have been a huge deal
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Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


They will look just as stupid as you do when confronting them with these passages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


The Greatest Commandment
(Deuteronomy 6:1-19; Mark 12:28-34)

34And when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they themselves gathered together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested Him with a question: 36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?”

37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’e 38This is the first and greatest commandment.

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You and yourlike Paulians are heading for Hell ...
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It pleased God to reveal His Son in Paul.

Deal with it.
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Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


They will look just as stupid as you do when confronting them with these passages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


The Greatest Commandment
(Deuteronomy 6:1-19; Mark 12:28-34)

34And when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they themselves gathered together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested Him with a question: 36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?”

37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’e 38This is the first and greatest commandment.

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You and yourlike Paulians are heading for Hell ...
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No, you are. We are going to heaven, and you are going to hell with your child molesting false prophet, which you call the perfect example for mankind. And couldnt you muslims come up with a dumber name than "paulian"? Yes you are muslim because you reveal yourself by what you say. Both you and the fool from canada.
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Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


They will look just as stupid as you do when confronting them with these passages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


The Greatest Commandment
(Deuteronomy 6:1-19; Mark 12:28-34)

34And when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they themselves gathered together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested Him with a question: 36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?”

37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’e 38This is the first and greatest commandment.

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You and yourlike Paulians are heading for Hell ...
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32“Right, Teacher,” the scribe replied. “You have stated correctly that God is One and there is no other but Him,

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OP what do you do for a living?
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A prophecy of Jesus concerning the worldwide distribution of the Bible, the word of God
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Are you SURE "the Bible" is "the Word of God" and not THE SPIRIT, AS THE BIBLE TEACHES?

Ephesians 6:17
And take ye the helmet of health, and the sword of the Ghost, that is, the Word of God.

2 Samuel 23:2
The Spirit of the Lord spoke through me;
His Word was on my tongue.

Ps 33:6
By the Word of the Lord the heavens were established; and all the power of them by the Spirit of his mouth
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Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


They will look just as stupid as you do when confronting them with these passages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78259309


The Greatest Commandment
(Deuteronomy 6:1-19; Mark 12:28-34)

34And when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they themselves gathered together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested Him with a question: 36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?”

37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’e 38This is the first and greatest commandment.

[link to biblehub.com (secure)]


You and yourlike Paulians are heading for Hell ...
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No, you are. We are going to heaven, and you are going to hell with your child molesting false prophet, which you call the perfect example for mankind. And couldnt you muslims come up with a dumber name than "paulian"? Yes you are muslim because you reveal yourself by what you say. Both you and the fool from canada.
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God judge among us fast !!

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Hey moron, ask any rabbi if there was any trinity of God in the Old Testament. Seriously, the main christianity has become a bad joke and a nightmare to anyone still with brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61293275


They will look just as stupid as you do when confronting them with these passages.
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The Greatest Commandment
(Deuteronomy 6:1-19; Mark 12:28-34)

34And when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they themselves gathered together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested Him with a question: 36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?”

37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’e 38This is the first and greatest commandment.

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You and yourlike Paulians are heading for Hell ...
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It pleased God to reveal His Son in Paul.

Deal with it.
 Quoting: Photine 75295036


John 10:30: "I and the Father are one"
John 14:9: "Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?"

...etc..

you lying muslims need a better term than paulian.. how paul and johnian? how about paul,matthew,johnian? or paul,luke,matthew,johnian? or isaiian,ezekielan,toraian,lukeian..etc? Or just biblian? I can live with biblian.





GLP