You Christians are following the teachings of Paul not Jesus

So the Messiah will be pierced, and he will pour upon the house of David a spirit of grace. Its what God does, not a regular human.

But dont misinterpit me, its perfectly fine for me you reject God.

Jesus didn't start your religion.. and he never ever taught to worship the Father THRU HIM at all.. this is completely false.

Jesus taught to worship the FATHER directly since he indwells humans. YOu human still think God is in the sky... he is INSIDE OF YOU.. both the HOLY Spirit 3rd person Trinity and the FATHER

Paul is a man of God who went teaching the things of God to gentiles. He revealed his personal experiences. And gave his personal opinion. And was used by God that his teaching would be given to all. That is a guy who did bad was humbled and started doing good. Who received the worst of the worst of punishment and embraced in humility. For what purpose Other than to Proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord and savior.

Why are you calling me a Muslim, trin?

You have to start accusing me of being a Muslim and a liar because I call you out on your idol worship (the trinity)?

Christians are not trinitarians, you have been fooled. The Hebrews never worshipped "the trinity", neither did Jesus, neither the Apostles..

John 14:6
Jesus answered, "No one comes to the Father if not through me."

1 Corinthians 8:6b
one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.

Eph 2:18
For through Him we have access to the Father through one Spirit.

For christians, the Paul bashing from clueless muslims is laughable, like everything else they invent to attack christianity. This is why they try to attack apostle Paul:

John 4:24, ESV: "God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”"

And means you were formed in Nebadon and you go thru Nebadon SCHOOLS in a long process that turns you from needing a meat suit .. into a spirit being...that is all it means. You cannot get to the superunniverse and Havona and Paradise without first going thru the full program of the universe of your brith.

You cannot skip HIS SCHOOLS.

We worship Jesus, because he is God. The word "trinity" is nowhere in the bible, its an explenation of God revealed trough Jesus. Jesus is the WORD of God, the visible image of the invisible God. God in flesh. If you are not trinitarian, you arent following the bible.

Why are you saying I'm right? You don't worship God through Jesus.. (the Spirit).. you worship God "through the third person of the trinity", who ain't Jesus.

If you are the one i refer to that use the term "paulian", then you are muslim, because muslims are the only ones that use that stupid term, and i posted a video over here on why muslims have to blame Paul for christianity. Take your taqiyya/mudarat/muruna/tawriya elsewhere.

Excuse me?

You believe "The Spirit" is a "THIRD PERSON", but Paul taught that JESUS is "the Spirit".

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veil is removed in Christ.
whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
the Lord is the Spirit.
we preach Jesus Christ as Lord,"

Stop pretending like you're a Christian! IMPOSTER.

Im saying the quotes you posted are right. We dont have access to God without Jesus. The only way to God is TROUGH Jesus. Want to know God? Jesus. Want to pray to God? Jesus. The trinity is just a deeper understanding of God, but it all evolves around Jesus, the messiah, which IS the way, truth and life.

Wrong.

Nope. You are just paying lip service to Jesus.

You ACTUALLY believe you can't even access Jesus without "the third person" of "the trinity".

You ACTUALLY worship God "through the third person of the trinity", NOT Jesus.

FALSE.

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.

You have access to the FATHER who indwells ALL humans who have some morality... because he is right in your mind beloveds... you do not have to go thru the mind of Jesus to access your Father Fragment.

God the Father created NONE of the Universes... none of the 700,000 of them.. Universes are created by HIS CREATOR SONS and DAUGHTERS. a pair of each to each universe.

You can't skip the steps or run to another universe if you don't like this one.

WORSHIP GOES ONLY TO THE FATHER... buy you can pray to anyone you like.

As a general statement... since most of you cannot direct your prayer personally .. prayers are carried on a prayer circuits available for that...

The CREATOR SONS are Sons of the FAther and Sons of the Eternal SON.. and if you cannot direct your prayers.. they are carried in circuits of the Creator Sons in each universe.

NO circuit is necessary to the FATHEr because he is iNSIDE YOUR SOUL.

first, there isnt any 2 cor 3:16-4:5 anywhere in the bible, there is 2 Cor 3:16 though.

there isnt any seperation... there are 3 persons, but its one God, thus, trinity, and the way to know God is trough Jesus. Without Jesus, you dont know God. We have never worshipped 3 different gods.

You as a muslim and follower of the greatest of decievers (satan/allah) are in no way in position to have an opinion about anything in the bible or christianity. you make up lies, thats all you have.

and you can try to lie all you want, but you have exposed yourself, with your uniquyely muslim "problems" and muslim "terms" ("paulian" etc)

Idiotic nonsense.



"The Lord" is clearly identified as Christ.

The Lord (Christ) is clearly identified as "the Spirit"/"the Spirit of the Lord", aka The Holy Spirit.

Thus, Christ is the Holy Spirit according to Paul.

YOU believe that Christ is not the Lord who is the Spirit, but that a "third person" is, in fact, the Lord, who is the Spirit.

So what gospel are you preaching exactly?!

next i bet your going to ask: where did Jesus say: "i am god, worship me" in those exact terms, which you have learned from professional fools, clowns and liars like zakir naik and ahmed deedad that made a living ripping money off poor, ignorant muslims:

I like how you're just ignoring what Paul is saying in 2 Cor 3:16-18.

Cognitive dissonance is a hitch.

Maybe i should find 2 cor 3:16 instead from a good, relaible translation, like King James:

"6 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord."

So are you saying Jesus was a spirit, or a man?

What lies you are spreading! John 6:40 has NOTHING to do with satanism.

As a matter of fact, it refutes satanism. From the Weymouth New Testament:

Weymouth New Testament

John 6:40

For this is my Father's will, that every one who fixes his gaze on the Son of God and believes in Him should have the Life of the Ages, and I will raise him to life on the last day."

2 Cor 3:14
It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed.

Got that, trin? Only in Christ is the veil lifted. He's the Lord. The Lord is the Spirit. Christ is the Spirit.

Not a "third person".

WAKEY WAKEY.

Nothing.


It's hard for people who really are more interested in proving the Creator is who they were told He is or wants Him to be than to actually do the work to figure out how it all works together. It does work together. Also, there is no change in personality from the Creator to Jesus and the Christian sect should realize this as well. As usual, it takes work in reading scripture, prayer and a humble heart to rid oneself of the programming that also included repeating all of the programming. What most people know is what they were told and they made it fit what they read.

Instead, pray, read, humble yourself to realize you may not have all the information and some of what you believe is actually not scriptural.

Just say NO to murdering everyone that doesn’t believe what muslims believe.

If you say YES to Jesus Christ, you have eternal life, and the power to LOVE others.

Quite a difference.

Hold your horses....

Are you saying Jesus is just a spirit? When Jesus pray to the Father and was suffering before and during the crucifixion, who does he pray to? Himself? And what fell on him during baptism?

You are correct in that we know everything trough Christ, so Jesus is the one we relate to as God.