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ATF Proposes Changes to Form 4473, Including Adding ‘Non-Binary’ Under ‘Sex’ Question

 
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ATF Proposes Changes to Form 4473, Including Adding ‘Non-Binary’ Under ‘Sex’ Question
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) announced this week its intention to change form 4473 to include, among other things, a “non-binary” option for sex as well as language clarifying prohibited persons who have been convicted in military courts.

The changes were announced in the Federal Register on December 26, and interested parties have 60 days to comment before the changes go into effect.

Among the most significant amendments is a third option under “Sex” that reads “Non-binary.” Historically, government agencies have resisted adding a non-binary option in order to avoid confusion when trying to identify an individual. But in 2017, Oregon became the first state to offer a non-binary option on state IDs, and at least nine other states have followed suit. The federal government appears to be joining the trend.

Concerned citizens who wish to comment on the proposed changes are encouraged to email the ATF at [email protected] or call them at 202–648–7173.

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I used to joke that the gender question at least minimized the number of mentally ill that could acquire a firearm. I guess that is all shot to hell (pun intended) now.
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insanity of democunts
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‘Non-Binary’ Mentally Ill people with guns. wtf
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This is a symptom of a nation of mentally ill.
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Last year when I went to the doctor they made me fill out a form with all kinds of questions with lots of choices about my sexuality and gender.

I hadn't been to the doctor in a few years and was really surprised at this. It almost made me feel like something was wrong with me for being a regular heterosexual white female. Some of the choices I wasn't even familiar with.

I need to go to the doctor again, and if I have to fill out another form like that, I am going to claim I feel like a homosexual black male. I am really going to do that I decided that is what I am going to put down.

In my heart of hearts, I feel like a gay black man, I am going to say that.
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Anybody ticking that box should be permanently disqualified as evidenced by their self professed mental illness.
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The mentally ill should not be Armed.
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2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

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What next bestality?
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Let me get this straight; the numbskulls that want to disarm us also want to arm the mentally ill? WTF is wrong with this picture? Those idiots should sit down and watch Dog Day Afternoon, just to acquaint themselves with the dangers of arming lunatic transvestites.
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Can they include a check box for gaping man post op pussy.
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The mentally ill should not be Armed.
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The ends justify the means.
The phags will help the agenda of the gun grab.
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Let me get this straight; the numbskulls that want to disarm us also want to arm the mentally ill? WTF is wrong with this picture? Those idiots should sit down and watch Dog Day Afternoon, just to acquaint themselves with the dangers of arming lunatic transvestites.
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Same way the Jewish who are the ones behind the gun grab are arming to the hilt themselves.
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While you are in there making changes to the form, do something about 11e.
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There is no hope for the empire. Everyone isn't okay with this but won't do shit to end it.
I lost my apathy.
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I'll wait until it gets real bad and be the fucking animal I was born to be.
I lost my apathy.
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Anyone who thinks there are more than two sexes is a fucking idiot. You have idiots all over the country now. It's a sign of the times.
I lost my apathy.
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Bureaucrats usually do something sneaky behind whatever PC bullshit they do. What ELSE is changing on the form, and how does it affect our 2A rights?

Time to get whatever else you don't have before you have to navigate another unfamiliar form with enough traps already.
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Anybody ticking that box should be permanently disqualified as evidenced by their self professed mental illness.
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I hope they're using it as a way to filter anyone out who identifies that way as someone who shouldn't own a gun because they have mental illness.
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Prohibitionists are experts at the splitting dialectic. ATF means nothing to American ways, nothing. Research its root.
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Americans haven't solved this. Jesse James versus Elliot Ness, and yet whom did Gen. Sherman blame, in his autobiography? The who. out of Boston, who profit from wars? Who stirs the shit?
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Last year when I went to the doctor they made me fill out a form with all kinds of questions with lots of choices about my sexuality and gender.

I hadn't been to the doctor in a few years and was really surprised at this. It almost made me feel like something was wrong with me for being a regular heterosexual white female. Some of the choices I wasn't even familiar with.

I need to go to the doctor again, and if I have to fill out another form like that, I am going to claim I feel like a homosexual black male. I am really going to do that I decided that is what I am going to put down.

In my heart of hearts, I feel like a gay black man, I am going to say that.
 Quoting: Peepaws


I don't think you should do that because you don't know what the purpose of those questions is. If it were me I would have refused to fill out the form beyond stating that I was born female and will die female.

That reminds me that I used to pray for God to please help me stay out of doctors offices and hospitals, so help me God. So far so good, I stay as far away as I can get and I treat any issues I might have (and I've had some) with diet, rest, vitamins, minerals and herbs.
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Last year when I went to the doctor they made me fill out a form with all kinds of questions with lots of choices about my sexuality and gender.

I hadn't been to the doctor in a few years and was really surprised at this. It almost made me feel like something was wrong with me for being a regular heterosexual white female. Some of the choices I wasn't even familiar with.

I need to go to the doctor again, and if I have to fill out another form like that, I am going to claim I feel like a homosexual black male. I am really going to do that I decided that is what I am going to put down.

In my heart of hearts, I feel like a gay black man, I am going to say that.
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I just crumble those up and toss them.
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Last year when I went to the doctor they made me fill out a form with all kinds of questions with lots of choices about my sexuality and gender.

I hadn't been to the doctor in a few years and was really surprised at this. It almost made me feel like something was wrong with me for being a regular heterosexual white female. Some of the choices I wasn't even familiar with.

I need to go to the doctor again, and if I have to fill out another form like that, I am going to claim I feel like a homosexual black male. I am really going to do that I decided that is what I am going to put down.

In my heart of hearts, I feel like a gay black man, I am going to say that.
 Quoting: Peepaws


I think that would be the best way to throw a monkeywrench in the system.

If TPTB want to say that race, gender, etc. are all fluid rather than concrete now and something that can change on a whim on any given day, then people can fill out these forms any way they want.

If everyone kept changing their race, gender, etc. on forms like that, it would really wreak havoc with their record-keeping system AKA tracking system. The government already admitted it would make it harder to identify individuals.

If everyone did it, then the government would have to decide which agenda was more important to them, identity politics or actually identifying people.
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This is the Federal government, so naturally, it's okay to be unsure about your biology, but if your address doesn't match you're fucking denied.
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Last year when I went to the doctor they made me fill out a form with all kinds of questions with lots of choices about my sexuality and gender.

I hadn't been to the doctor in a few years and was really surprised at this. It almost made me feel like something was wrong with me for being a regular heterosexual white female. Some of the choices I wasn't even familiar with.

I need to go to the doctor again, and if I have to fill out another form like that, I am going to claim I feel like a homosexual black male. I am really going to do that I decided that is what I am going to put down.

In my heart of hearts, I feel like a gay black man, I am going to say that.
 Quoting: Peepaws


I think that would be the best way to throw a monkeywrench in the system.

If TPTB want to say that race, gender, etc. are all fluid rather than concrete now and something that can change on a whim on any given day, then people can fill out these forms any way they want.

If everyone kept changing their race, gender, etc. on forms like that, it would really wreak havoc with their record-keeping system AKA tracking system. The government already admitted it would make it harder to identify individuals.

If everyone did it, then the government would have to decide which agenda was more important to them, identity politics or actually identifying people.
 Quoting: BirdMom


I'm going to try that on my next firearm purchase. If I get denied, I can sue the assholes.
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The form does not need to be changed. It specifically asks if you have mental illness. So if this part of form is used then they lied about mental illness question.

ATF are buttplugs anyways.
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Now you know why the RINO-IN-CHIEF didn’t reinstate DONT ASK DONT TELL for the military
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How about another option named "Manly Man" for guys like me?


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