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Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?

 
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Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
How do we know that Microsoft hasn't enabled back doors or intended security bugs in Windows at the behest of the U.S. government or the Microsoft corporation itself?
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01/05/2020 12:39 AM
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
We do know they have. All of the OSes have that. It's in the CPU on intel chips
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
Intel microcode is a mini version of Linux, even on Windows
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
Is the pope Catholic?
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
Derp
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
Your computer is totally transparent to spooks
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
Unplug your computer from the internet. Now it is secure.

A Hard Gap is the only way and genuine military secrets are never keep on any computer hooked up to the internet. That is policy.

Anything you see hacked they allowed it to be hacked and it is false information.
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
None are secure since humans are involved. The least used is always much more secure though.
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
yes it's more sexy.
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really you can't trust any computer unless you wrote all the code yourself. and you somehow think you didn't make any mistakes.

this computer law was invented by famous computer guy ken thompson. nobody has proved him wrong yet!!
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
Everything probably has back doors through the BIOS. There's an open source BIOS you can use (one is called libreboot), but you have to really know what you're doing to install it - I believe it actually involves soldering or connecting physically something inside your computer to install it.

Windows must be secure to some extent, or at least able to be secure, since corporations and governments use it. However, I'm sure there are backdoors for certain agencies in Windows too.

Linux can be more secure, but unless you know how to read and write the open source code you're still trusting other people. It probably has been compromised too on some level.
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
We do know they have. All of the OSes have that. It's in the CPU on intel chips
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If that's the case it's only usable on bootup and limited to the BIOS and its settings. There's no programming language other than basic programmer code and definitely not any TCP etc coding/logic in there.

And once it boots into the OS, the OS assumes control over all devices and functions and could close the backdoor.
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
To rally up infiltrators so close to a fire you can smell smoke?
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01/05/2020 05:07 AM
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
Think of it like this. Once the computer connects to the internet...that "tunnel" on the internet...that is it. That's the left and right boundaries.
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What I mean by that tunnel...I mean the internet connection itself btw.
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
A computer is only as secure as the asshole using it.
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Is the pope Catholic?
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No
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
You have to put steel reinforced ceramic bricks over your windows.
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
A computer is only as secure as the asshole using it.
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Bump for absolute truth dood.

Your government knows where you live and military doods can just point a gun at you to get your passwords.

Considering there's bullets that will go through brick walls, pretty much well no one is really "safe".
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
really you can't trust any computer unless you wrote all the code yourself. and you somehow think you didn't make any mistakes.

this computer law was invented by famous computer guy ken thompson. nobody has proved him wrong yet!!
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He's right you know...
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
really you can't trust any computer unless you wrote all the code yourself. and you somehow think you didn't make any mistakes.

this computer law was invented by famous computer guy ken thompson. nobody has proved him wrong yet!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38066883


He's right you know...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 63368270



Ken Thompson's "cc hack" - Presented in the journal, Communication of the ACM, Vol. 27, No. 8, August 1984, in a paper entitled "Reflections on Trusting Trust", Ken Thompson, co-author of UNIX, recounted a story of how he created a version of the C compiler that, when presented with the source code for the "login" program, would automatically compile in a backdoor to allow him entry to the system. This is only half the story, though. In order to hide this trojan horse, Ken also added to this version of "cc" the ability to recognize if it was recompiling itself to make sure that the newly compiled C compiler contained both the "login" backdoor, and the code to insert both trojans into a newly compiled C compiler. In this way, the source code for the C compiler would never show that these trojans existed.



"The moral is obvious. You can't trust code that you did not totally create yourself. (Especially code from companies that employ people like me.) No amount of source-level verification or scrutiny will protect you from using untrusted code. In demonstrating the possibility of this kind of attack, I picked on the C compiler. I could have picked on any program-handling program such as an assembler, a loader, or even hardware microcode. As the level of program gets lower, these bugs will be harder and harder to detect. A well installed microcode bug will be almost impossible to detect."

[link to www.win.tue.nl (secure)]



guess which company employs ken thompson...
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
infinitely

qubes os and parrot os are insanely secure
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Re: Is Linux More Secure Than Windows?
Windows has been compromised by backdoors since the win95 era. Big linux distros are too.





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