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All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...

 
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Logged in now... as TBD...

I still think SDOW out of the money options are going up before expiration. VIX calls are too fast for me personally. I have a few hundred out of the money calls for SDOW, but think VIX might have been the better vehicle. Yet I didn't know the Iran BS was gonna throw a monkey wrench in my plan...

TDB
 Quoting: TankDaBank


Calls? or Puts?
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Sorry Man. Calls all the way. I can't see DOW 30K this month, but i've been wrong a 1000 times.
 Quoting: TankDaBank


Interesting, that may be a good 2nd trade if things go my way early enough tomorrow. Thanks for the tip!


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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


I've double'd down on these calls currently @43... it worked very well a year ago. Now it's a nail biter.

It wasn't meant to be a tip... hope we both make some denaro tomorrow tho!

Best of Luck/Expertise!
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Anyone else?


Seriously, thinks feel like the tempest in the teapot lately.


DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

:money:
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


You're too late.

The market knows before you do.

The time to do it was last Thursday at the close.

This market has one more high to go (at least) then it will topple over. Wait for the S&P500 to hit ~3267 and go with out of the money SPY puts -- at least 3 months out.
The S&P will lose ~1000 points, the DOW 8-10K points, then afterward another parabolic move up.

**Maybe** the S&P drops to 3189 or 3155 before turning back up, but I doubt we see a major crash here. It needs a new high first.
 Quoting: ShitWeasel

Going 3 mos long term doom huh? Tail must wag the dog.
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Calls? or Puts?
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Sorry Man. Calls all the way. I can't see DOW 30K this month, but i've been wrong a 1000 times.
 Quoting: TankDaBank


Interesting, that may be a good 2nd trade if things go my way early enough tomorrow. Thanks for the tip!


.
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


I've double'd down on these calls currently @43... it worked very well a year ago. Now it's a nail biter.

It wasn't meant to be a tip... hope we both make some denaro tomorrow tho!

Best of Luck/Expertise!
 Quoting: TankDaBank


You too, win lose or draw, I will post my progress tomorrow.


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Ever since you lost your shit I have 0 respect, but still check in to see if you TOTALLY lost the plot or not yet. KEK
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Ever since you lost your shit I have 0 respect, but still check in to see if you TOTALLY lost the plot or not yet. KEK
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noted brother. See you tomorrow.
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Re: All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...
Anyone else?


Seriously, thinks feel like the tempest in the teapot lately.


DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

:money:
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


You're too late.

The market knows before you do.

The time to do it was last Thursday at the close.

This market has one more high to go (at least) then it will topple over. Wait for the S&P500 to hit ~3267 and go with out of the money SPY puts -- at least 3 months out.
The S&P will lose ~1000 points, the DOW 8-10K points, then afterward another parabolic move up.

**Maybe** the S&P drops to 3189 or 3155 before turning back up, but I doubt we see a major crash here. It needs a new high first.
 Quoting: ShitWeasel


Now you know why the Senate was "OUTRAGED" they were not notified on the air strike on Salami.

Can you imagine if you had that 'Insider" info?

Did you know the Senate can LEGALLY insider trade??????

Did you know they are the ONLY branch that can do so????

HUH???

Fucking BASTARDS!!!!

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offtopic

OK, back to the thread :)
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Re: All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...
Anyone else?


Seriously, thinks feel like the tempest in the teapot lately.


DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

:money:
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


You're too late.

The market knows before you do.

The time to do it was last Thursday at the close.

This market has one more high to go (at least) then it will topple over. Wait for the S&P500 to hit ~3267 and go with out of the money SPY puts -- at least 3 months out.
The S&P will lose ~1000 points, the DOW 8-10K points, then afterward another parabolic move up.

**Maybe** the S&P drops to 3189 or 3155 before turning back up, but I doubt we see a major crash here. It needs a new high first.
 Quoting: ShitWeasel

Going 3 mos long term doom huh? Tail must wag the dog.
 Quoting: TankDaBank

Options deteriorate quickly in the last 30 days. Buy that far out (but out of the money) so you don't lose much in premium while waiting for a sharp move.

You also want to be able to stay in the trade once it is working in your favor. What if the market topped on Jan 10 or Jan 12 and bottomed on Feb 24? That gives you enough time to scale out of the trade early and leave the rest sitting there on house money until you see it turn up again.
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Re: All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...
Anyone else?


Seriously, thinks feel like the tempest in the teapot lately.


DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

:money:
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


You're too late.

The market knows before you do.

The time to do it was last Thursday at the close.

This market has one more high to go (at least) then it will topple over. Wait for the S&P500 to hit ~3267 and go with out of the money SPY puts -- at least 3 months out.
The S&P will lose ~1000 points, the DOW 8-10K points, then afterward another parabolic move up.

**Maybe** the S&P drops to 3189 or 3155 before turning back up, but I doubt we see a major crash here. It needs a new high first.
 Quoting: ShitWeasel

Going 3 mos long term doom huh? Tail must wag the dog.
 Quoting: TankDaBank

Options deteriorate quickly in the last 30 days. Buy that far out (but out of the money) so you don't lose much in premium while waiting for a sharp move.

You also want to be able to stay in the trade once it is working in your favor. What if the market topped on Jan 10 or Jan 12 and bottomed on Feb 24? That gives you enough time to scale out of the trade early and leave the rest sitting there on house money until you see it turn up again.
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Thank you. That is a very reasonable point!
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Re: All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...
OK, update.

Bought January 22nd $16.00 Call at $1.35 per contract.

I want to make ~18% today, so GTC sell order going in for $1.60

I'll report back when I win or lose...



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Re: All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...
One of my favorite stocks was down 2.5%

DFS (Discover card)

Bought January 24th calls for $1.05

GTC open sell order at $1.30

:fingerscrossed:
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Well my day was a mixed bag. Up 10% on my DFS call, down 30% on VIX, I am going to hang on until morning, then cash out of VIX no matter where it is.
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Well my day was a mixed bag. Up 10% on my DFS call, down 30% on VIX, I am going to hang on until morning, then cash out of VIX no matter where it is.
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GIVE US 'THIS' DAY OUR DAILY VIX...?

7TH

8TH..9TH..10TH...?
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Re: All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...
I told yaw'll after it dropped the first time...
This market needed a new high.

Got it today (after a nice dip last night).

But...

It looks like it needs to dip again and do another high before finally rolling over.

Looking for a final top prolly Friday or early next week.

If you can't daytrade it, do what I said earlier -- wait for a high and buy SPY puts at least 3 mos out and look for a sharp drop well before they expire.

Markets top in violence, bottom in silence.
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Well my day was a mixed bag. Up 10% on my DFS call, down 30% on VIX, I am going to hang on until morning, then cash out of VIX no matter where it is.
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You got your ass handed to you by crooks!
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Well my day was a mixed bag. Up 10% on my DFS call, down 30% on VIX, I am going to hang on until morning, then cash out of VIX no matter where it is.
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


You're usually gonna get a mixed bag if you take two trades in the opposite direction...
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Re: All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...
Unloaded my VIX on the 7th for a 25% LOSS, hung on to my DFS until the 8th, made 20%.

Meh.
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I am now short SPX 3280. Along with some lottery puts.

Told you this sucker needed a new high at end of the week. May not be done yet, but taking a stab at it.
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Unloaded my VIX on the 7th for a 25% LOSS, hung on to my DFS until the 8th, made 20%.

Meh.
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can you buy or ADD ON STOP GAP MEASURES TO YOUR VIX GAMBLES?
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Unloaded my VIX on the 7th for a 25% LOSS, hung on to my DFS until the 8th, made 20%.

Meh.
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can you buy or ADD ON STOP GAP MEASURES TO YOUR VIX GAMBLES?
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OP did you buy when you said you would?
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Re: All this DOOOOM... I am buying VIX Calls tomorrow, bigly...
Anyone else?


Seriously, thinks feel like the tempest in the teapot lately.


DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

:money:
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


You're too late.

The market knows before you do.

The time to do it was last Thursday at the close.

This market has one more high to go (at least) then it will topple over. Wait for the S&P500 to hit ~3267 and go with out of the money SPY puts -- at least 3 months out.
The S&P will lose ~1000 points, the DOW 8-10K points, then afterward another parabolic move up.

**Maybe** the S&P drops to 3189 or 3155 before turning back up, but I doubt we see a major crash here. It needs a new high first.
 Quoting: ShitWeasel

Going 3 mos long term doom huh? Tail must wag the dog.
 Quoting: TankDaBank



That's why you go mid term.

VIXM





GLP