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Theobromine The Deplorable

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I recently saw something on this - some documentary

Dogs and wolves have different origins

Wolves are pack animals and work together

Think if the difference between Leopards and Lions - totally different personalities - one functions in a larger society of the pack

Dogs were a companion to humans - and work well with humans- bred to be companion animals

The law states that if an animal is deemed to be half wolf or more - determined by a Veterinarian- it must be released to a wild animal rescue or released into the wild

You cannot train a wolf
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Were they domesticated from wolves? Or was it something else? Any theories?
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it's said that dogs come from 3 different types of canine, wolves, jackals and i forget the other.
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Dingoes and heelers definitely favor jackals. They might come from a separate dingo strain though.


Dogs and jackals may be interchangeable in ancient Egyptian art.


Probably their local dogs heavily relied on jackal populations.
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Legit, talking to an Aboriginal in town the other day and he said dingoes
where the first dogs
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They were one of the first, undoubtedly. African and some asiatic wild dogs are thought to be older, with the highest successful hunt ratio of any animal on earth. Similar to wolves, these dogs produce mainly sterile hybrids if bred with domestic dogs. Dingoes can breed successfully with all domestic dogs, as the actually are one themselves.
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I recently saw something on this - some documentary

Dogs and wolves have different origins

Wolves are pack animals and work together

Think if the difference between Leopards and Lions - totally different personalities - one functions in a larger society of the pack

Dogs were a companion to humans - and work well with humans- bred to be companion animals

The law states that if an animal is deemed to be half wolf or more - determined by a Veterinarian- it must be released to a wild animal rescue or released into the wild

You cannot train a wolf
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Only time I have ever been badly bitten by a "dog" was by a wolf-dog.

Still have the scar on the top of my hand where the tooth went in.

No, they can never be completely tamed.
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Legit, talking to an Aboriginal in town the other day and he said dingoes
where the first dogs
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They were one of the first, undoubtedly. African and some asiatic wild dogs are thought to be older, with the highest successful hunt ratio of any animal on earth. Similar to wolves, these dogs produce mainly sterile hybrids if bred with domestic dogs. Dingoes can breed successfully with all domestic dogs, as the actually are one themselves.
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Yep


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God made them. Probably as an extra special gift to humanity.
I don’t believe they evolved from wolves.
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Were they domesticated from wolves? Or was it something else? Any theories?
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it's said that dogs come from 3 different types of canine, wolves, jackals and i forget the other.
 Quoting: guitar ace


Dingoes and heelers definitely favor jackals. They might come from a separate dingo strain though.


Dogs and jackals may be interchangeable in ancient Egyptian art.


Probably their local dogs heavily relied on jackal populations.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


i thought maybe dingo was the third. looking into it i came across the new guinea singing dog. which i guess is similar to the dingo.
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Were they domesticated from wolves? Or was it something else? Any theories?
 Quoting: Person445


it's said that dogs come from 3 different types of canine, wolves, jackals and i forget the other.
 Quoting: guitar ace


Dingoes and heelers definitely favor jackals. They might come from a separate dingo strain though.


Dogs and jackals may be interchangeable in ancient Egyptian art.


Probably their local dogs heavily relied on jackal populations.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


i thought maybe dingo was the third. looking into it i came across the new guinea singing dog. which i guess is similar to the dingo.
 Quoting: guitar ace


I swear my heelers sound like they are singing when they do their whine.

And one of them sorta sings along when my daughter is playing guitar.


It's a hoot!
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Were they domesticated from wolves? Or was it something else? Any theories?
 Quoting: Person445


it's said that dogs come from 3 different types of canine, wolves, jackals and i forget the other.
 Quoting: guitar ace


Dingoes and heelers definitely favor jackals. They might come from a separate dingo strain though.


Dogs and jackals may be interchangeable in ancient Egyptian art.


Probably their local dogs heavily relied on jackal populations.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


i thought maybe dingo was the third. looking into it i came across the new guinea singing dog. which i guess is similar to the dingo.
 Quoting: guitar ace


probably coyote? I thought is was known that dingos were domesticated dogs that went wild.
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Haven't listened to all of this, but it's kind of interesting. Not saying I agree, but it's interesting.

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This is a good question, but it's a question that we'll never be able to answer definitively. That doesn't deter people from proclaiming they know the answer, though. I wasn't there, so I don't think I can truly know.

There are quite a few wolflike breeds. I can see how a German Shepherd could have descended from lupine lineage. But there's a bunch of breeds that are no more like wolves than koala bears are. They bear a mammalian kinship, but not much more. Selective breeding can only accomplish so much, even when you factor in the occasional mutation. Are chihuahuas and St. Bernards even the same species?

Then there's the bigger question of where did ANYTHING originate from? I was about seven years old when I first started pondering this. I was especially focused on rocks, but I was also curious about my hands and the way I could curl my thumb over to each fingertip by sheer force of will. My mom didn't have the answer (although she was spooked that I was precociously asking birds and bees type questions, but I was contemplating far bigger matters). I still don't know the answer. I conclude there's a greater power, and I don't think anyone knows anything beyond that.
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Canis Major.

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God
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Whose womb is god inside of?
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Pink Floyd.

Dogs

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Ptah(ur) Ou Jovei.

Egg descended from ovary of Mae/mei hu.

We inside egg inside womb.

Obsidian order is interplanetary multistellar stellar ancestral grouping.

It looks like an travels, his council too; the Apkallu.

If they do.

Who knows who else of his peoples can.

Travel between the luminous orbs.

Maybe dogs from Sirius.

Dogon nogods..

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domesticated dogs are some of the best examples of a GMO.
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genetically engineered and modified by anunnaki aliens on earth that possess the technologies from atlantis.
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Probably cats.
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A t-rex and a chicken fucked, and made a dog.


True story
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Were they domesticated from wolves? Or was it something else? Any theories?
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People are very hard-wired into accepting the mainstream narrative when it comes to animal domestication. Wow.

Probably Oswald acted alone, too.
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what is your belief
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Snails. All living creatures evolved from snails. Even bacteria.
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it's said that dogs come from 3 different types of canine, wolves, jackals and i forget the other.
 Quoting: guitar ace


Dingoes and heelers definitely favor jackals. They might come from a separate dingo strain though.


Dogs and jackals may be interchangeable in ancient Egyptian art.


Probably their local dogs heavily relied on jackal populations.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


i thought maybe dingo was the third. looking into it i came across the new guinea singing dog. which i guess is similar to the dingo.
 Quoting: guitar ace


I swear my heelers sound like they are singing when they do their whine.

And one of them sorta sings along when my daughter is playing guitar.


It's a hoot!
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


i have a healer too but not quite as vocal as yours. sirens will get him singing though. great dogs.
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I used to have a book about horses that made a case for domestic horses descending from different types of wild horses - ponies from a wild pony, warmbloods from a lighter type of wild horse, heavy horses from another larger type of wild horse, etc.

It would make sense if dogs originally had multiple origins of types of wild dogs, in ancient prehistory.

We lost so many mammal species during the global cataclysms at the end of the Wisconsin Glaciation.

Maybe the wild ancestors of today's domestic animals were more apparent before the mass extinctions of 12,000 years ago.
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All dogs were wolves 10000 years ago

Domestication and breeding habits has created breeds ..

They would take the runt of the litter and breed it with another runt.. that would produce a smaller more docile dog

Repeat that for 10000 years and that's how you got tea cup dogs like Chihuahuas and such
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so there is hope for the Incel...?
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All dogs were wolves 10000 years ago

Domestication and breeding habits has created breeds ..

They would take the runt of the litter and breed it with another runt.. that would produce a smaller more docile dog

Repeat that for 10000 years and that's how you got tea cup dogs like Chihuahuas and such
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so there is hope for the Incel...?
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Nope.
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All dogs were wolves 10000 years ago

Domestication and breeding habits has created breeds ..

They would take the runt of the litter and breed it with another runt.. that would produce a smaller more docile dog

Repeat that for 10000 years and that's how you got tea cup dogs like Chihuahuas and such
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73023955


so there is hope for the Incel...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12204131


Nope.
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if anyone ever tries to breed an incel, they'll probably end up with a Hobbit. That'd be cool.
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I interviewed Bernie Taylor about the origin of dogs today. I'll post our conversation on here tomorrow.
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I interviewed Bernie Taylor about the origin of dogs today. I'll post our conversation on here tomorrow.
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cool
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