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User ID: 280384 United States 08/11/2007 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is huge, and needs a pin. Very good find. How credible is this website however? 8/11 - Nothing occurred, just fear. Numerology experts: Whats the most likely date!? The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
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User ID: 273676 United States 08/11/2007 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Based solely on logistical considerations, it would place an expected counter attack on by 8/17. :savetata: Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009 |
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User ID: 273676 United States 08/11/2007 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "It's just like the days before the 9/11 attacks: al Qaeda camps suddenly gone "quiet" and "empty" in Afghanistan." Quoting: Push/Pull 280145— this did not happen. Yes, it did. AQ left many known locations about 2 weeks before the attack. :savetata: Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009 |
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Push/Pull User ID: 280145 United States 08/11/2007 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] U.S. President George W. Bush responded by saying: "We know he's guilty. Turn him over", and British Prime Minister Tony Blair warned the Taliban regime: "Surrender bin Laden, or surrender power". Soon thereafter the United States and its allies invaded Afghanistan, and together with the Afghan Northern Alliance removed the Taliban government in the war in Afghanistan. U.S. troops in Afghanistan As a result of the United States using its special forces and providing air support for the Northern Alliance ground forces, both Taliban and al-Qaeda training camps were destroyed, and much of the operating structure of al-Qaeda is believed to have been disrupted. After being driven from their key positions in the Tora Bora area of Afghanistan, many al-Qaeda fighters tried to regroup in the rugged Gardez region of the nation. Again, under the cover of intense aerial bombardment, U.S. infantry and local Afghan forces attacked, shattering the al-Qaeda position and killing or capturing many of the militants. By early 2002, al-Qaeda had been dealt a serious blow to its operational capacity, and the Afghan invasion appeared an initial success. Nevertheless, a significant Taliban insurgency remains in Afghanistan, and al-Qaeda's top two leaders, bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, evaded capture. |
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Push/Pull User ID: 280145 United States 08/11/2007 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh where, oh where have Taliban gone? 28 of 29 militant bases ID'd by U.S. intelligence 'dismantled' after information given to Pakistan Posted: August 11, 2007 7:00 p.m. Eastern © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com Information regarding the location of 29 Taliban bases, ID'd by U.S. intelligence and shared with Pakistan, has lost its targeting value for Islamabad's promised offensive against the militant group with the apparent evacuation of 28 of the training camps along the country's northern border with Afghanistan. The U.S. presented Pakistan with a dossier meticulously detailing the bases' locations in the tribal areas of North Waziristan and South Waziristan, but, according to a report by Asia Times, the camps 'have simply fallen off the radar.' Neither the North Atlantic Treaty Organization-led coalition in Afghanistan nor Pakistan intelligence have detected any movement in the camps since early this month. On-the-ground intelligence from both sides of the national border indicate all camps but one, operated by a hardline Islamist mullah, have been dismantled and all Taliban commanders, as well as leaders of Arab insurgent groups in the country, have disappeared. more [link to www.wnd.com] |
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User ID: 273676 United States 08/11/2007 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh where, oh where have Taliban gone? Quoting: Push/Pull 28014528 of 29 militant bases ID'd by U.S. intelligence 'dismantled' after information given to Pakistan Posted: August 11, 2007 7:00 p.m. Eastern © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com Information regarding the location of 29 Taliban bases, ID'd by U.S. intelligence and shared with Pakistan, has lost its targeting value for Islamabad's promised offensive against the militant group with the apparent evacuation of 28 of the training camps along the country's northern border with Afghanistan. The U.S. presented Pakistan with a dossier meticulously detailing the bases' locations in the tribal areas of North Waziristan and South Waziristan, but, according to a report by Asia Times, the camps 'have simply fallen off the radar.' Neither the North Atlantic Treaty Organization-led coalition in Afghanistan nor Pakistan intelligence have detected any movement in the camps since early this month. On-the-ground intelligence from both sides of the national border indicate all camps but one, operated by a hardline Islamist mullah, have been dismantled and all Taliban commanders, as well as leaders of Arab insurgent groups in the country, have disappeared. more [link to www.wnd.com] It is possibly this simple. I fear it is not. :savetata: Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009 |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 275968 United States 08/11/2007 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "It's just like the days before the 9/11 attacks: al Qaeda camps suddenly gone "quiet" and "empty" in Afghanistan." Quoting: Push/Pull 280145— this did not happen. Yes, it did happened, dude! It has been reported so many times after the 9/11 attacks in the news but intelligence agencies picked up reported disappearance of top Al Qaeda leaders from the camps in Afghanistan prior to the assassination of Mossaud (sp?) |
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Push/Pull User ID: 280145 United States 08/11/2007 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.dailytimes.com.pk] Gunships pound militant hideouts MIRANSHAH: Helicopter gunships pounded militant hideouts in northern Pakistan as the military scoured mountains on Friday for 16 missing soldiers believed kidnapped by Taliban rebels. The army said at least 10 Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters were killed in the air attack on Thursday. The operation also involved ground forces in North Waziristan region. “The miscreants killed in Thursday’s strike were local militants allied to Taliban and Al Qaeda,” a security official told AFP. ISPR Director General Major General Waheed Arshad said security forces were focused on squeezing out the militants, who include local and foreign fighters. “There is no planned operation going on in North Waziristan but we are responding with greater force against militant attacks on security forces now,” he said. “In previous months there were several attempts made by miscreants against security forces and we would show patience but it is not the case now.” Arshad said the military was hunting for 16 paramilitary soldiers who went missing on Thursday morning in South Waziristan. Arshad said the stepped-up action in the border areas was not in reaction to pressure from Washington. “We know Al Qaeda is present in the region, there are Taliban elements and their local supporters and we are acting against them in our own national interest.” In a separate incident on Friday, gunship helicopters bombed a suspected militant hideout at Boya, west of Miranshah, but there were no immediate reports of casualties, a local security official said. Suspected militants also exchanged gunfire with security forces on Friday in Miranshah after militants attacked a security check post, the officials said, with no immediate reports of casualties. afp |
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User ID: 273676 United States 08/11/2007 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm assuming you pinned this. Thanks for the pin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 275968You are welcome and this is very important. :savetata: Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009 |
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Push/Pull User ID: 280145 United States 08/11/2007 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aug 11, 2007 Taliban a step ahead of US assault By Syed Saleem Shahzad KARACHI - The ongoing three-day peace jirga (council) involving hundreds of tribal leaders from Pakistan and Afghanistan is aimed at identifying and rooting out Taliban and al-Qaeda militancy on both sides of the border. This was to be followed up with military strikes at militant bases in Pakistan, either by the Pakistani armed forces in conjunction with the United States, or even by US forces alone. _________________________________________________________> The trouble is, the bases the US had meticulously identified no longer exist. __________________________________________________________> The naive, rustic but battle-hardened Taliban still want a fight, but it will be fought on the Taliban's chosen battlegrounds. Twenty-nine bases in the tribal areas of North Waziristan and South Waziristan on the border with Afghanistan that were used to train militants have simply fallen off the radar. The US had presented Islamabad with a dossier detailing the location of the bases as advance information on likely US targets. But Asia Times Online has learned that since early this month, neither the North Atlantic Treaty Organization-led coalition in Afghanistan nor Pakistan intelligence has detected any movement in the camps. Human intelligence on both sides suggests the bases have been dismantled, apart from one run by hardline Islamist Mullah Abdul Khaliq. All other leading Taliban commanders, including Sirajuddin Haqqani, Gul Bahadur, Baitullah Mehsud and Haji Omar, have disappeared. Similarly, the top echelons of the Arab community that was holed up in North Waziristan has also gone. more where "the new battlefield" is [link to www.atimes.com] |
ferrisWheel User ID: 279655 United States 08/11/2007 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | –April 9, 2007– “For the past few days, “Pakistan” has come into to my mind, as if something unexpected/big were about to happen there . . . . It seems to be something related to war . . . and may be a trigger for other things that aren’t currently really on the radar . … .” April 9, 2007 –April 29th 2007– “For about the past week again Pakistan has been coming into my mind as a very possible trigger point for a snowballing effect in the middle east–problems there coming out of left field . . . a new unexpected hot spot destabilizing the region–pushing it over the breaking point . . . . perhaps then Afghanistan goes into fullscale uproar and then there is an alliance between Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and Syria-all coming together with contiguous borders (if Iraq also falls to that group). This is just speculation re how it might go; though the clear ominous sense re trouble brewing in Pakistan–right before it actually did–came from premonition and continues to. Just something to note and watch . . . .” –June 22, 2007– “MUCH chicanery which will commence will be, obviously unreported–worse than now, which is pretty bad (for instance, since my heads-up a couple weeks ago about Pakistan, do you know that it is very unstable, much rioting with the Musharif regime close to being ousted and replaced by hard-line Islamists? all the worry about a nuclear Iran may suddenly be moot if already nuclear Pakistan “falls” and a militant Islamic coup ensues . . . . But this trouble is not being reported at all. I was alerted to it first in the spirit, and since then I’ve talked to a very nice Christian Pakistani who runs a gas station I frequent . . . and is confirming my thoughts on this . . . ” --July 18, 2007- "Also, Pakistan, as I got the warning is indeed heating up . . . and will continue to be extremely volatile along the Afgan/Paki border. An octopus operation is set up there now as well." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 250293 United States 08/11/2007 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no AlQaeda or camps just neocon propaganda promoting wars and death Ralph Epperson: RUSSIA HAS WOODEN MISSILES! [link to video.google.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 248638 United States 08/11/2007 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Booga booga... You mean the phony camps that the CIA set up and filmed to put on American TV to make people scared and drum up support for b0mbing the sh*t out of certain countries to secure oil fields are empty!!!!??? Say it ain't so! Oh, I'm so scared! Dummies. |
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User ID: 5160 United States 08/11/2007 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: Push/Pull 280145After being driven from their key positions in the Tora Bora area of Afghanistan, many al-Qaeda fighters tried to regroup in the rugged Gardez region of the nation. Bullshit. Tora Bora was controlled by Abdul Haq's mujahiddeen prior to 9/11. Abdul Haq was strongly pro-American having received their backing in the Russian war. He drove a Harley, listened to western music and was a frequent visitor to New York city. Haq was scheduled to give a lecture to the Council on Foreign Relations in New York city on the strategic situation in Afghanistan in October 2001. It had already been widely advertised on the Internet on specialised newsites such as Strategic Forces review (Stratfor.com) that a Northern Alliance offensive to oust the Taliban was about to begin with Russian logistical support and possibly American airstrikes. What had not been advertised was that Haq's Pushtun militia was going to launch an offensive in the south. 9/11 spoiled the plan. The Americans invaded which immediately turned the Pushtuns in Tora Bora into the opposing camp. Afghans don't like invaders. Abdul Haq returned to Tora Bora with suitcases of money and was immediately killed by his own people. Tora Bora was never an Al Qaeda or Taliban stronghold till after the Americans invaded. The underground bunker complexes in Tora Bora never existed. They were just a media story to justify testing new bunker busting bombs. owner of an extensive collection of curios from the exotic orient |
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LookForMe User ID: 279820 United States 08/11/2007 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THERE IS TALIBAN AND AL-QAEDA TRAINING CAMPS EXISTING NOW AND THE SATELLITES CAN SEE THEM, THE BOMBERS CAN FLY OVER THEM AND THEY ARE NOT YET BOMBED OUT OF EXISTENCE? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 237207I THINK NOT. Ya, what he said...... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 275968 United States 08/11/2007 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | uhhhhmm..... if they are monitoring the camps, and know where they are, wouldn't they bomb them out of existence?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: LookForMe 279820You know we cannot bomb Pakistan without permission from Musharraf. D'oh. |
D. Bunker ™ User ID: 273676 United States 08/11/2007 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most if not all these encampments are within the borders of Pakistan. Pakistan has chosen to not allow US overflight to attack these locations in the North. Pakistani attempts to assault them with ground troops has proven ineffective in the past. The encampments are dispersing either due to preparation of the coming offensive by Pakistan or due to an expected retaliation as in 2001. Time will tell. |
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Push/Pull User ID: 280145 United States 08/11/2007 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The trouble is, the bases the US had meticulously identified no longer exist. Twenty-nine bases in the tribal areas of North Waziristan and South Waziristan on the border with Afghanistan that were used to train militants have simply fallen off the radar. The US had presented Islamabad with a dossier detailing the location of the bases as advance information on likely US targets. But Asia Times Online has learned that since early this month, neither the North Atlantic Treaty Organization-led coalition in Afghanistan nor Pakistan intelligence has detected any movement in the camps. Human intelligence on both sides suggests the bases have been dismantled, apart from one run by hardline Islamist Mullah Abdul Khaliq. All other leading Taliban commanders, including Sirajuddin Haqqani, Gul Bahadur, Baitullah Mehsud and Haji Omar, have disappeared. Similarly, the top echelons of the Arab community that was holed up in North Waziristan has also gone. . KNOWN, KNOWNS (for a while) |