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Trump's failing trumpcare - women paying 50% more out of pocket to give birth then under Obama care

 
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A new study revealed that the cost of childbirth has become exorbitant for many mothers — regardless of insurance status. Researchers found that pregnant women with employer-provided health insurance spent an average of $4,500 out of pocket in 2015, the most recent data available.
That’s a 50% spike compared with 2007, when the cost was about $3,000 out of pocket — and more than three times the rate of inflation during that period.
“I don’t know a lot of patients who have this kind of funding lying around,” Dr. Michelle Moniz, a physician and assistant professor at the University of Michigan and study author, told CBS News.
“These expenses are coming at a time when most of my patients are thinking of everything else on their baby list,” she added, “a crib, a car seat, everything they need to keep their newborn safe — and they aren’t expecting a bill like this.”
The study, published this week in Health Affairs , included birth records from more than 650,000 women who would be considered in the best position to give birth, thanks to their large employer-sponsored health insurance plans, which typically offer more cost coverage than plans through small businesses or those purchased independently through HealthCare.gov.
The cause of the increase isn’t due to the rising cost of hospital care. In fact, the actual billed amount for childbirth remained fairly steady over the seven-year study period. Instead, researchers found that deductible payments rose from about $1,500 to nearly $2,500, while coinsurance costs (what the patient pays after meeting their deductible) increased by about $300.
“I was completely surprised that the phenomenon of having to pay something out of pocket for maternity care was almost universal,” said Moniz. “98% of people had some out-of-pocket cost by the end of the study.”
For those without insurance, the cost is staggering. Health-care watchdog Fair Health
found that the average cost of vaginal birth without insurance in Alabama, where childbirth costs are lowest, is $9,516.86. On the high end, in Alaska, a natural birth averages $20,243.38. Women who require a C-section can count on paying approximately $4,000 to $8,000 more.
Study authors call out the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which requires employer-based insurance plans to cover maternity services, pointing out that just because it’s now mandatory doesn’t mean it’s more affordable.
“For people who talk about the ACA, there seems to be this misconception that ‘oh, maternity’s covered,’ ” said Moniz, who wrote in her report that those plans are being allowed to “impose cost-sharing such as copayments and deductibles.”
That’s especially concerning considering pregnancy-related deaths are also on the rise, especially among black and other minority women. A 2019 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that US women today are 50% more likely to die of childbirth-related complications than a generation ago.
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Impossible, we passed the unaffordable care act and that fixed healthcare right????

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Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
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A 2019 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that US women today are 50% more likely to die of childbirth-related complications than a generation ago.

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Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
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Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
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Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare but he never said it would be a better deal then Obama care

epiclol
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Why would anyone want to bring children into this world?

The male sperm count is getting so low that soon there will be no more babies being born. This is what humans deserve for what they did to the earth.
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Good, if you cant afford insurance, you cant afford a kid.
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A new study revealed that the cost of childbirth has become exorbitant for many mothers — regardless of insurance status. Researchers found that pregnant women with employer-provided health insurance spent an average of $4,500 out of pocket in 2015, the most recent data available.
That’s a 50% spike compared with 2007, when the cost was about $3,000 out of pocket — and more than three times the rate of inflation during that period.
“I don’t know a lot of patients who have this kind of funding lying around,” Dr. Michelle Moniz, a physician and assistant professor at the University of Michigan and study author, told CBS News.
“These expenses are coming at a time when most of my patients are thinking of everything else on their baby list,” she added, “a crib, a car seat, everything they need to keep their newborn safe — and they aren’t expecting a bill like this.”
The study, published this week in Health Affairs , included birth records from more than 650,000 women who would be considered in the best position to give birth, thanks to their large employer-sponsored health insurance plans, which typically offer more cost coverage than plans through small businesses or those purchased independently through HealthCare.gov.
The cause of the increase isn’t due to the rising cost of hospital care. In fact, the actual billed amount for childbirth remained fairly steady over the seven-year study period. Instead, researchers found that deductible payments rose from about $1,500 to nearly $2,500, while coinsurance costs (what the patient pays after meeting their deductible) increased by about $300.
“I was completely surprised that the phenomenon of having to pay something out of pocket for maternity care was almost universal,” said Moniz. “98% of people had some out-of-pocket cost by the end of the study.”
For those without insurance, the cost is staggering. Health-care watchdog Fair Health
found that the average cost of vaginal birth without insurance in Alabama, where childbirth costs are lowest, is $9,516.86. On the high end, in Alaska, a natural birth averages $20,243.38. Women who require a C-section can count on paying approximately $4,000 to $8,000 more.
Study authors call out the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which requires employer-based insurance plans to cover maternity services, pointing out that just because it’s now mandatory doesn’t mean it’s more affordable.
“For people who talk about the ACA, there seems to be this misconception that ‘oh, maternity’s covered,’ ” said Moniz, who wrote in her report that those plans are being allowed to “impose cost-sharing such as copayments and deductibles.”
That’s especially concerning considering pregnancy-related deaths are also on the rise, especially among black and other minority women. A 2019 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that US women today are 50% more likely to die of childbirth-related complications than a generation ago.
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Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
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Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
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Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare but he never said it would be a better deal then Obama care

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do you have short term memory? repeal was all but done, but the vote rested with that dead fucking idiot john mccain, and he fucked america over (simply because he hated trump) as he voted to NOT repeal it, and was the deciding vote just a couple months before he croaked.

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You may get want to look at the record numbers of births of immigrants this past two years!! Just sayin! Far exceeds USA ppls births
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A 2019 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that US women today are 50% more likely to die of childbirth-related complications than a generation ago.

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Wtf!!??
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Hey dumb fuck! Trump wasn't even in office in 2015. Look at your own article that you "sourced", it says for 2015. Obama was still in office and solely responsible for the change.
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Re: Trump's failing trumpcare - women paying 50% more out of pocket to give birth then under Obama care
A 2019 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that US women today are 50% more likely to die of childbirth-related complications than a generation ago.

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Wtf!!??
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yep more women are dying giving birth like if we were in the fucking middle ages or something


trumpcare has proven itself to be a disaster
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Re: Trump's failing trumpcare - women paying 50% more out of pocket to give birth then under Obama care
A 2019 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that US women today are 50% more likely to die of childbirth-related complications than a generation ago.

5a

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That's because we keep saving the weak and allowing them to breed.
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Cut and pasty threads are hysterical. Quick add some twitter comments.
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A 2019 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that US women today are 50% more likely to die of childbirth-related complications than a generation ago.

5a

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Wtf!!??
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Same cdc said 911 air was safe to breath and not to worry about Fukushima. I am sure they are legit.
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Typical Libtard bull shit. There is no "Trumpcare".
The never ending failure aka:Obamacare is all on Democrats and always will be. It was a failure from the beginning and will continue to get worse.
Is there anything they won't blame on Trump?
Is there anything Democrats take responsibility for?
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A 2019 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that US women today are 50% more likely to die of childbirth-related complications than a generation ago.

5a

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This is Democrats "talking their Book". The more women they can scare into getting abortions the more Baby parts they have to sell.
They are a wicked bunch!
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Re: Trump's failing trumpcare - women paying 50% more out of pocket to give birth then under Obama care
Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
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Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 607459


Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare but he never said it would be a better deal then Obama care

epiclol
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Except it never got repealed due to mccain fucking over every single american and now we continue to get raped.

But keep rewriting history if it helps cure your tds you fucking retard
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You can give birth at home for free.
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Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
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Re: Trump's failing trumpcare - women paying 50% more out of pocket to give birth then under Obama care
Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 607459


Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 607459


Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare but he never said it would be a better deal then Obama care

epiclol
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Except it never got repealed due to mccain fucking over every single american and now we continue to get raped.

But keep rewriting history if it helps cure your tds you fucking retard
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clappa
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Re: Trump's failing trumpcare - women paying 50% more out of pocket to give birth then under Obama care
Kids cost money.

You want me to pay for your sex habits?
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Re: Trump's failing trumpcare - women paying 50% more out of pocket to give birth then under Obama care
Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 607459


Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 607459


Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare but he never said it would be a better deal then Obama care

epiclol
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Trump says anything he takes credit for will be better and more beautiful than anything else.
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Source: NYpost.... nuff said.
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well then i hope the men are not still paying for birth under obahma care?
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Y'all should stop pandering to the corporations sucking you for every penny they can get and get a proper universal free healthcare system, like other successful places in the modern world.

But nooo, you guys insist on giving your life savings to the medical industry, because, corporate profit is your god.. even if you never see a penny of that.
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Hey dumb fuck! Trump wasn't even in office in 2015. Look at your own article that you "sourced", it says for 2015. Obama was still in office and solely responsible for the change.
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Good.

Women have been taking the lions share of tax money off the backs of male taxpayers since forever.

They should pay some more.
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Re: Trump's failing trumpcare - women paying 50% more out of pocket to give birth then under Obama care
Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 607459


Don't blame Obama on Trump.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 607459


Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare but he never said it would be a better deal then Obama care

epiclol
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Take it up with congress asshole! All president Trump could do was get the mandatory part removed by E.O. NOW stfu





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