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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78240795 Canada 01/12/2020 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been smoking it nearly 20 years, it would of happend a long time ago. Or it has and I don't know it I was chronic from an early age, before standard models say development is complete and it definitely shaped my perception during those formative years. A few years ago (about 14 years into smoking), and at a time of extremely high stress in my life, I suddenly lost all tolerance. From one puff of a pin sized joint, I was blitzed like never before. If I had any more, I experienced panic attacks. The first incident seemed like a stroke or heart attack, to me. I pondered caffeine overdose as well, but in the end see they were all panic attacks, which often come with a sense of unreality. In one instance, I actually thought i was going to be hauled down to hell, after my buddy played some death metal, after a huge toke. I believe it's a possible trail marker to psychosis, but only in extreme psychoactive cases. I smoke moderate amounts, regularly, today and I experience none of that. My initial trigger was a potent THC strain and lots of stress, regular stimulant (legal) use. |
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User ID: 78243808 United States 01/12/2020 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So opium is a naturally occurring substance from which the non addictive substances heroin and morphine were derived for medical purposes and this isn't just a case of history repeating. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75800018 So True ... I wish I could get some of the Natural Pot that I used to get in the early 80's like ... Columbian Gold , Buddha , Panama Red and Lambs Breath ... unadulterated seed lineage from the Ancients ... help a Brother out ... Last Edited by beenthruthat on 01/12/2020 01:47 PM People don't care how much You know ... till they know how much You care ... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77414564 United States 01/12/2020 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | article and title both misleading. as the planet wakes up to medical weed theres going to be more of a push to identify all the hundreds of closely related compounds grouped as "cannabinoids" until very recently, this research would have been illegal. there are no NEW cannabinoids, we are merely filling out the family tree so to speak. in terms of 30 times stronger than THC... only means a more effective agonist at receptor site. this compound already existed, has existed for thousands of years, weve just never ID it before. so NO, weed is NOT getting 30x stronger. BUT what about the team that isolates THIS cannabinoid and concentrates it? ever heard of MARINOL? the full suite cannabinoid experience is FAR SUPERIOR to trying any invidividual cannabinoid on its own. marinol was a THC pill that the gov played around with for a while, users said that real pot was more satisfying than the "pure" thc. this about that graphic equalizer on that old stereo, you want ALL the levels in a good spot, instead of 1 level at max and all others at min. not fake news, but ripe for spin i would say. NOW SMOKE EM IF YOU GOT EM! |
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User ID: 75639580 United States 01/12/2020 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While that could potentially be dangerous if taken in the same quantity as THC, it'd be taken in a smaller dose. If THCP is 30 times more potent, then its dosage would be 30 times smaller than a comparative dose of THC. Like fentanyl. That stuff is 100 times more potent than morphine. But while somebody might gulp a couple 10mg morphine pills following a surgery, anybody who gulped 20mg of fentanyl would be dead quick if an antagonist wasn't administered quick. Hell, I don't even know if a shot of Narcan or injection of naltroxone, the stuff used everywhere to reverse even the most acute overdoses, would work at that point. But that would never happen in a medical setting...or any other setting excepting the fatal idiocy of Chinese labs sending out kilograms of pure fentanyl powder packed in ziplock bags. They just measure the dosage in micrograms instead of milligrams, and do a little math to tweak the dosage so it's appropriate. And when taken NOT LIKE A COMPLETE IDIOT, fentanyl can be as safe (or as unsafe) as morphine or any other comparable opiate/opioid. Likewise these ultra-potent cannibinoids,providing they affect the people who ingest it in similar ways to THC, would be as safe (or as unsafe) as THC. 'Stronger' doesn't need to mean more evil or more deadly, it only means its taken in a different dosage than related psychoactives. CannibisKillerGuy are you prescribed 'diamorphine' over there? Back in the day I was so jealous that you Brits could get prescribed medicinal-grade heroin. Sometimes I miss opiates; haven't been prescribed them for a very long time! Those were the days, though! Last Edited by KonspiracyKitty on 01/12/2020 02:39 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73110566 United States 01/12/2020 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breakthrough discovery: cannabis compound 30 times stronger than THC Quoting: Cannabis Kills People! In a breakthrough for cannabis research scientists have discovered a cannabinoid in the cannabis plant that is potentially 30 times stronger than THC. Cannabis has over 400 known compounds in the plant, of which around 150 have been recognised as ‘cannabinoids’. The most commonly recognised cannabinoids are THC and CBD due to their pharmaceutical properties. Now, in an attempt to define the phytocannabinoid profile that characterises medical cannabis, a group of Italian researchers from the University of Modena and Reggio Emilia, the University of Rome, the University of Campania, and the Institute of Nanotechnology in Lecce, have discovered two new compounds: THCP (tetrahydrocannabiphorol) and CBDP (cannabidiphorol). The team of researchers describe in the report, published in the journal Nature, how they have isolated the two new cannabinoids, of which, THCP binds to the CB1 and CB2 receptors of human’s endocannbinoid system. The scientists suggest that this cannabinoid is potentially 30 times more potent than THC – the known psychoactive component of cannabis. Medical Cannabis Network spoke to team researcher, Cinzia Citti, from the Institute of Nanotechnology about the new discovery. [link to www.healtheuropa.eu (secure)] OMG can't wait too smoke this stuff. THC concentrates "dabs" hardly do anything anymore too me. Can't wait I'll buy |
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User ID: 75639580 United States 01/12/2020 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CannibisKillerGuy are you prescribed 'diamorphine' over there? Back in the day I was so jealous that you Brits could get prescribed medicinal-grade heroin. Sometimes I miss opiates; haven't been prescribed them for a very long time! Those were the days, though! Quoting: KonspiracyKitty Yes you can get prescribed diamorphine here but its mainly cancer patients/termanily ill and for severe migraines.. I used to have injections for migraines when I was younger... WOW they gave INJECTIONS of DIAMORPHINE for MIGRAINES? Damn! That's very surprising to me because here in the United States I don't think they'd even give you codeine for migraines. They try to restrict opioid prescriptions to cases of pain caused by some sort of physical trauma. Post surgical pain management, wounds and lacerations, burns, breaks, et cetera. Something they can physically see, point to, and say THAT is what is causing the pain. And that was before they tightened down HARD on opioids in the past few years. Nowadays they might administer some in the hospital, but to get a prescription of even something as relatively impotent as hydrocone for longer than three days you'd almost have to be DYING first. Well, slight exaggeration. But it is true there are MANY people with legitimate pain management needs whose only chance for quality of life is by taking these medications who can no longer get them. People in crippling pain given a bottle of prescription-strength ibuprofin or other NSAID; maybe a steroid if swelling is involved and they're lucky. But opiates? Doctors are so afraid of getting in trouble and the propaganda is so strong they'll do anything they can to avoid prescribing them. Last Edited by KonspiracyKitty on 01/12/2020 03:10 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 01/12/2020 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CannibisKillerGuy are you prescribed 'diamorphine' over there? Back in the day I was so jealous that you Brits could get prescribed medicinal-grade heroin. Sometimes I miss opiates; haven't been prescribed them for a very long time! Those were the days, though! Quoting: KonspiracyKitty Yes you can get prescribed diamorphine here but its mainly cancer patients/termanily ill and for severe migraines.. I used to have injections for migraines when I was younger... WOW they gave INJECTIONS of DIAMORPHINE for MIGRAINES? Damn! That's very surprising to me because here in the United States I don't think they'd even give you codeine for migraines. They try to restrict opioid prescriptions to cases of pain caused by some sort of physical trauma. Post surgical pain management, wounds and lacerations, burns, breaks, et cetera. Something they can physically see, point to, and say THAT is what is causing the pain. And that was before they tightened down HARD on opioids in the past few years. Nowadays they might administer some in the hospital, but to get a prescription of even something as relatively impotent as hydrocone for longer than three days you'd almost have to be DYING first. Well, slight exaggeration. But it is true there are MANY people with legitimate pain management needs whose only chance for quality of life is by taking these medications who can no longer get them. People in crippling pain given a bottle of prescription-strength ibuprofin or other NSAID; maybe a steroid if swelling is involved and they're lucky. But opiates? Doctors are so afraid of getting in trouble and the propaganda is so strong they'll do anything they can to avoid prescribing them. I dont know why they are afraid if its legit needed. I am on a lot of pain meds.... Tramadol, Morphine, Codiene, Gabapentin, Amitriptyline, Diazepam, Etoricoxib, Methotrexate and Adalimumab injections.. I never feel high... just sometimes a little nauseous.... |
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User ID: 78166427 Canada 01/12/2020 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This isn’t a breakthrough. They have had synthetic cannabinoid full-agonist compounds that are HUNDREDS of times stronger than THC for many years(and have no ‘upper limit’ unlike THC due to full agonist activity). It has killed a lot of people via seizures. You’ve never heard of spice or K2 or JWH compounds? Same idea. Still doesn’t change the fact that cannabis is a very safe drug. Last Edited by Gabriel~ on 01/12/2020 03:20 PM I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3 We’re all in the same game; just different levels Dealing with the same hell; just different devils |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4813904 United States 01/12/2020 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breakthrough discovery: cannabis compound 30 times stronger than THC Quoting: Cannabis Kills People! In a breakthrough for cannabis research scientists have discovered a cannabinoid in the cannabis plant that is potentially 30 times stronger than THC. Cannabis has over 400 known compounds in the plant, of which around 150 have been recognised as ‘cannabinoids’. The most commonly recognised cannabinoids are THC and CBD due to their pharmaceutical properties. Now, in an attempt to define the phytocannabinoid profile that characterises medical cannabis, a group of Italian researchers from the University of Modena and Reggio Emilia, the University of Rome, the University of Campania, and the Institute of Nanotechnology in Lecce, have discovered two new compounds: THCP (tetrahydrocannabiphorol) and CBDP (cannabidiphorol). The team of researchers describe in the report, published in the journal Nature, how they have isolated the two new cannabinoids, of which, THCP binds to the CB1 and CB2 receptors of human’s endocannbinoid system. The scientists suggest that this cannabinoid is potentially 30 times more potent than THC – the known psychoactive component of cannabis. Medical Cannabis Network spoke to team researcher, Cinzia Citti, from the Institute of Nanotechnology about the new discovery. [link to www.healtheuropa.eu (secure)] Send me some, before bitches start falling off cliffs. |
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User ID: 75639580 United States 01/12/2020 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CannibisKillerGuy are you prescribed 'diamorphine' over there? Back in the day I was so jealous that you Brits could get prescribed medicinal-grade heroin. Sometimes I miss opiates; haven't been prescribed them for a very long time! Those were the days, though! Quoting: KonspiracyKitty Yes you can get prescribed diamorphine here but its mainly cancer patients/termanily ill and for severe migraines.. I used to have injections for migraines when I was younger... WOW they gave INJECTIONS of DIAMORPHINE for MIGRAINES? Damn! That's very surprising to me because here in the United States I don't think they'd even give you codeine for migraines. They try to restrict opioid prescriptions to cases of pain caused by some sort of physical trauma. Post surgical pain management, wounds and lacerations, burns, breaks, et cetera. Something they can physically see, point to, and say THAT is what is causing the pain. And that was before they tightened down HARD on opioids in the past few years. Nowadays they might administer some in the hospital, but to get a prescription of even something as relatively impotent as hydrocone for longer than three days you'd almost have to be DYING first. Well, slight exaggeration. But it is true there are MANY people with legitimate pain management needs whose only chance for quality of life is by taking these medications who can no longer get them. People in crippling pain given a bottle of prescription-strength ibuprofin or other NSAID; maybe a steroid if swelling is involved and they're lucky. But opiates? Doctors are so afraid of getting in trouble and the propaganda is so strong they'll do anything they can to avoid prescribing them. I dont know why they are afraid if its legit needed. I am on a lot of pain meds.... Tramadol, Morphine, Codiene, Gabapentin, Amitriptyline, Diazepam, Etoricoxib, Methotrexate and Adalimumab injections.. I never feel high... just sometimes a little nauseous.... Really? Even when in legitimate medical need and when administered by a competent physician (i.e. not abusing it) I'd get happy as hell on that stuff. Especially surprised you don't feel much on them when you said you DO experience nausea; because that indicates an inner-ear balance side-effect that doesn't usually appear in low or moderate doses, but only higher dosages in relation to that individual's particular tolerance levels. So it's not because you've grown so tolerant to your dosage that you don't feel psychoactive effects anymore; you're taking a significant enough dosage to make up for any tolerance. Interesting. I guess it's probably just the thing where it must effect different people in different ways. For example, I think they're pretty close to how Heaven would feel, but my mother? She compares the stuff to particularly effective aspirin that makes you itchy. Sorry you have to be on all that medication, especially that you don't even get to enjoy the perk of their effects to start to make up for the discomfort that whatever medical condition(s) or injuries cause you. That sucks. =( Anyway, sorry for getting off topic! I geek out over pharmacology sometimes. Bye! Last Edited by KonspiracyKitty on 01/12/2020 03:36 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45029473 United Kingdom 01/12/2020 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been smoking it nearly 20 years, it would of happend a long time ago. Or it has and I don't know it I was chronic from an early age, before standard models say development is complete and it definitely shaped my perception during those formative years. A few years ago (about 14 years into smoking), and at a time of extremely high stress in my life, I suddenly lost all tolerance. From one puff of a pin sized joint, I was blitzed like never before. If I had any more, I experienced panic attacks. The first incident seemed like a stroke or heart attack, to me. I pondered caffeine overdose as well, but in the end see they were all panic attacks, which often come with a sense of unreality. In one instance, I actually thought i was going to be hauled down to hell, after my buddy played some death metal, after a huge toke. I believe it's a possible trail marker to psychosis, but only in extreme psychoactive cases. I smoke moderate amounts, regularly, today and I experience none of that. My initial trigger was a potent THC strain and lots of stress, regular stimulant (legal) use. In fact you are right 100% and I can relate too. A couple of years ago I was going through hell, life changed overnight, and I was looking at losing everything, I took two or three drags of my zoot, just as normal, and yeah I stopped right away, i couldn't handle it, I'm shocked to even consider that moment and attribute to this... Wow. But I abstained for about 4 months, until that period was over. Youre so fucking right man |
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User ID: 78243808 United States 01/12/2020 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While that could potentially be dangerous if taken in the same quantity as THC, it'd be taken in a smaller dose. If THCP is 30 times more potent, then its dosage would be 30 times smaller than a comparative dose of THC. Quoting: KonspiracyKitty Like fentanyl. That stuff is 100 times more potent than morphine. But while somebody might gulp a couple 10mg morphine pills following a surgery, anybody who gulped 20mg of fentanyl would be dead quick if an antagonist wasn't administered quick. Hell, I don't even know if a shot of Narcan or injection of naltroxone, the stuff used everywhere to reverse even the most acute overdoses, would work at that point. But that would never happen in a medical setting...or any other setting excepting the fatal idiocy of Chinese labs sending out kilograms of pure fentanyl powder packed in ziplock bags. They just measure the dosage in micrograms instead of milligrams, and do a little math to tweak the dosage so it's appropriate. And when taken NOT LIKE A COMPLETE IDIOT, fentanyl can be as safe (or as unsafe) as morphine or any other comparable opiate/opioid. Likewise these ultra-potent cannibinoids,providing they affect the people who ingest it in similar ways to THC, would be as safe (or as unsafe) as THC. 'Stronger' doesn't need to mean more evil or more deadly, it only means its taken in a different dosage than related psychoactives. CannibisKillerGuy are you prescribed 'diamorphine' over there? Back in the day I was so jealous that you Brits could get prescribed medicinal-grade heroin. Sometimes I miss opiates; haven't been prescribed them for a very long time! Those were the days, though! good for You KK ... I did opiates about as far as a fellow could back in the day (bad back) (healed now)by(God)... only do natural Meds now Kratom and Weed ... a lot happier ... Opiates leave You in a comfortable fog ( not really knowing ), what's going on ... I prefer to be more sober and responsible ... People don't care how much You know ... till they know how much You care ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76428818 United States 01/12/2020 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CannibisKillerGuy are you prescribed 'diamorphine' over there? Back in the day I was so jealous that you Brits could get prescribed medicinal-grade heroin. Sometimes I miss opiates; haven't been prescribed them for a very long time! Those were the days, though! Quoting: KonspiracyKitty Yes you can get prescribed diamorphine here but its mainly cancer patients/termanily ill and for severe migraines.. I used to have injections for migraines when I was younger... WOW they gave INJECTIONS of DIAMORPHINE for MIGRAINES? Damn! That's very surprising to me because here in the United States I don't think they'd even give you codeine for migraines. They try to restrict opioid prescriptions to cases of pain caused by some sort of physical trauma. Post surgical pain management, wounds and lacerations, burns, breaks, et cetera. Something they can physically see, point to, and say THAT is what is causing the pain. And that was before they tightened down HARD on opioids in the past few years. Nowadays they might administer some in the hospital, but to get a prescription of even something as relatively impotent as hydrocone for longer than three days you'd almost have to be DYING first. Well, slight exaggeration. But it is true there are MANY people with legitimate pain management needs whose only chance for quality of life is by taking these medications who can no longer get them. People in crippling pain given a bottle of prescription-strength ibuprofin or other NSAID; maybe a steroid if swelling is involved and they're lucky. But opiates? Doctors are so afraid of getting in trouble and the propaganda is so strong they'll do anything they can to avoid prescribing them. I dont know why they are afraid if its legit needed. I am on a lot of pain meds.... Tramadol, Morphine, Codiene, Gabapentin, Amitriptyline, Diazepam, Etoricoxib, Methotrexate and Adalimumab injections.. I never feel high... just sometimes a little nauseous.... 6 known fuck with your brain drugs... and you want us to trust ANYTHING you say? |
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