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A Window into the World of Magick.

 
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A Window into the World of Magick.
Listen carefully to what these guys are talking about.

This is a lecture given in front of the top leaders of the Golden Dawn.

This stuff is real, and it has been going on for thousands of years, and it has been influencing your life!

***** Audio is a bit messed up, but push through it*****

Disclaimer: As a J,ew, I pity these people, they are mistaken when they think the Torah is yet another rambling of the imagination of man, so they think they can use it as another system of symbology that tries to define the undefinable powers and energies these people are working with.
Notice how they mishmash and mix different systems together because of the above reasons. They think the Torah is another of those ingredients they can throw in their Magickal salad.

But in reality, the Bible is a direct message from the Creator who created and controls all the energies and powers these people think are independent.

Israel stands above the astrological powers, Israel is not subjected unto astrological powers.
Israel is protected by G-d, who created those powers.

When the Temple is built, these fools will witness real Magick, one that operates from above the astrological powers, not through them by means of serving those astrological powers as these people do.

Regardless, what they are doing, is very real.

Jeremiah 10:2
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
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I have lucky charms cereal, thanks anyways.
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Wtf is a golden dawn, and why should we care?
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Wtf is a golden dawn, and why should we care?
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One of the most powerful and widespread Magickal Society, whose members are very powerful people, rich and influential in various fields, who come together to perform magickal operations, rituals etc, in order to influence the world.

Used to be highly secret, but they are all (these magickal societies) coming out of closet recently.
Why are they exposing themselves? I don't know, but it is definitely a sign the "time is nigh".
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Just a post to Youtube video.
No meaning
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Just a post to Youtube video.
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These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
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If the vid starts from the middle, then it was by mistake, start from the beginning.
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You can sort of hear between their lines that they are incorporating this Judaic understanding (my disclaimer) into their systems, because of Judaism's tremendous influence.

No magickal system has influenced the world of the Magicians more than Judaism.

But there is so much still that they are wrong about.
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Just a post to Youtube video.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60641063


These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


Just a post to Youtube video.
No meaning

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60641063


These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


Agree about the spooky stuff you say but still part of it history. But most anything you believe in has its good and bad sides. Most don’t realize this.
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Just a post to Youtube video.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60641063


These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


Just a post to Youtube video.
No meaning

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60641063


These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


Agree about the spooky stuff you say but still part of it history. But most anything you believe in has its good and bad sides. Most don’t realize this.
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Read the OP and the disclaimer.
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Thank you. I want to turn someone into a pig
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that shitsucker doublecrossed me
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i got more magic out of this

and any one that spells magic with a k is an undercover homo
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You do realize, from a Biblical stand point, Jewish people are not biblical Israel, but are Biblical Judah.

If your quoting Jeremiah, whom does Jeremiah say is Biblical Israel? Ephraim. Where does Jeremiah say Ephraim is?

Whom does Jeremiah say Ephraim is? Whom was accused of being jealous of Judah, and whom does everyone say was sorely vexed by Judah?


Lastly, what is the Biblical penalty for willfully bearing false witness, especially against kin?

Repent or be destroyed.
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Wtf is a golden dawn, and why should we care?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78274324


One of the most powerful and widespread Magickal Society, whose members are very powerful people, rich and influential in various fields, who come together to perform magickal operations, rituals etc, in order to influence the world.

Used to be highly secret, but they are all (these magickal societies) coming out of closet recently.
Why are they exposing themselves? I don't know, but it is definitely a sign the "time is nigh".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


The Golden Dawn is not that potent in all reality. The O.T.O holds far more potency. They are the Thelemic magickians but they are also just a club at this point (I'm ex-O.T.O fer fox lake). The truth of the matter is you are either weaving your own magick or you are trapped in someone elses spell.

The Outer Orders are merely reflections, they are not the essence of the deep darkness that permeates the world. If the name is known, it is 'not it'.
If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell.
“It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius
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Wtf is a golden dawn, and why should we care?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78274324


One of the most powerful and widespread Magickal Society, whose members are very powerful people, rich and influential in various fields, who come together to perform magickal operations, rituals etc, in order to influence the world.

Used to be highly secret, but they are all (these magickal societies) coming out of closet recently.
Why are they exposing themselves? I don't know, but it is definitely a sign the "time is nigh".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


The Golden Dawn is not that potent in all reality. The O.T.O holds far more potency. They are the Thelemic magickians but they are also just a club at this point (I'm ex-O.T.O fer fox lake). The truth of the matter is you are either weaving your own magick or you are trapped in someone elses spell.

The Outer Orders are merely reflections, they are not the essence of the deep darkness that permeates the world. If the name is known, it is 'not it'.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


Doesn't matter, I don't care.

Create your own magick how exactly? by making a salad out of older traditions with a tablespoon of one's own interpretation?
This is exactly the problem I talked about in my disclaimer in the OP.

Regardless, magick, in general, is forbidden by Torah.
Yet Torah posses in it the most powerful form of magick.
A form that involves the ritual operating through G-d, who is above the astral/stellar realm, thus it is not bound by it, as you magicians are...
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Just a post to Youtube video.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60641063


These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


That shit is stupid. The most that stuff does, is maybe entice a dead giant/nephilim(demon) to do some stuff for them.

Even the darker stuff, is stupid. In that, when they engage in human sacrifice and other f'ed up shit, the dark entities aren't feeding on the one being sacrificed by the lunatic, but are feeding on the one doing the sacrifice.

When a person does sinful stuff, it damages the outer layers of the soul, causing the inner substance to "rot". Certain beings and creatures can then feast on the vapor produced by the decomposition of the soul.

It is almost alarming, how much Lucas stuffed real occult teachings in his Star War's franchise. Still stupid though, as it goes against the basic principle of life:

To love and to be loved.

The energy produced by that, especially if it is done in a righteous manner, far exceeds any short term gains via the dark side route. I suppose because in the end, you end up resonating with the ONE MOST HIGH, as you resonate with his river, and since he is the most powerful being in that river, you submit to him.

When a person drinks from the river of sin, they then can become bound to those beings that are great and terrible, in the river of sin. Controlled, manipulated, and even devoured by them.

It is a scary thing to observe, as you realize our obsession with the concept of "free will" is an exercise in futility as it by and large, does not exist.
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So you see, magick is by definition being bound by someone else's spell.

Because magicians work through the astral/realm, and they do this by using the symbology and interpretation of these astral/stellar entities laid down by other men.

Torah works through a channel with G-d, who is above the nonsense incoherent white noise of men's interpretation regarding the astral/stellar realm.
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Wtf is a golden dawn, and why should we care?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78274324


One of the most powerful and widespread Magickal Society, whose members are very powerful people, rich and influential in various fields, who come together to perform magickal operations, rituals etc, in order to influence the world.

Used to be highly secret, but they are all (these magickal societies) coming out of closet recently.
Why are they exposing themselves? I don't know, but it is definitely a sign the "time is nigh".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


The Golden Dawn is not that potent in all reality. The O.T.O holds far more potency. They are the Thelemic magickians but they are also just a club at this point (I'm ex-O.T.O fer fox lake). The truth of the matter is you are either weaving your own magick or you are trapped in someone elses spell.

The Outer Orders are merely reflections, they are not the essence of the deep darkness that permeates the world. If the name is known, it is 'not it'.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


Doesn't matter, I don't care.

Create your own magick how exactly? by making a salad out of older traditions with a tablespoon of one's own interpretation?
This is exactly the problem I talked about in my disclaimer in the OP.

Regardless, magick, in general, is forbidden by Torah.
Yet Torah posses in it the most powerful form of magick.
A form that involves the ritual operating through G-d, who is above the astral/stellar realm, thus it is not bound by it, as you magicians are...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


I'm a Born Again Christian leaning towards the Russian Orthodoxy. And you may note my (real) last name since I use my real name. You weave your magick by becoming prayer, not praying, becoming prayer. But having denied Christ you are stuck in your own private hell. Convert and be saved. I guess you missed that part in the Bible. I did say 'ex O.T.O'...the golden dwn is based upon your Qabbalah. You know, the Jwwish one. That is all.
If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell.
“It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius
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Just a post to Youtube video.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60641063


These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


That shit is stupid. The most that stuff does, is maybe entice a dead giant/nephilim(demon) to do some stuff for them.

Even the darker stuff, is stupid. In that, when they engage in human sacrifice and other f'ed up shit, the dark entities aren't feeding on the one being sacrificed by the lunatic, but are feeding on the one doing the sacrifice.

When a person does sinful stuff, it damages the outer layers of the soul, causing the inner substance to "rot". Certain beings and creatures can then feast on the vapor produced by the decomposition of the soul.

It is almost alarming, how much Lucas stuffed real occult teachings in his Star War's franchise. Still stupid though, as it goes against the basic principle of life:

To love and to be loved.

The energy produced by that, especially if it is done in a righteous manner, far exceeds any short term gains via the dark side route. I suppose because in the end, you end up resonating with the ONE MOST HIGH, as you resonate with his river, and since he is the most powerful being in that river, you submit to him.

When a person drinks from the river of sin, they then can become bound to those beings that are great and terrible, in the river of sin. Controlled, manipulated, and even devoured by them.

It is a scary thing to observe, as you realize our obsession with the concept of "free will" is an exercise in futility as it by and large, does not exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78341416


Not all magick is black, some may be considered "good".

But that doesn't make it right.

The central error is that magick is performed through the astrological constellations and planets and through the entities in the astral realm which are not demonic, but can be tricksters.

Also, in order to communicate with these powers/entities, they have to use systems that define them, symbols, myths... Lore, essentially.

But all these are highly polluted with the subjectivity of the men who created the lore in the first place.

The lore was created by magicians contacting these powers/entities, who might have tricked them, but more than that, the magician had to add his own interpretation and agenda into the lore, so it's a huge mess really.

And even worse, magicians are constantly mixing different lore systems together making matters even worse.

While true Torah magick, which can only be done in the Temple in Jerusalem, operates through a channel that is connected to G-d, thus the mess of the astral/stellar realm is by passed, because G-d is above that realm, which is in fact subject onto G-d.

So many magicians (Balaam for example) tried so hard to stop Israel, but as you can see... We are still here, and they hate us because part of our mission is to destroy their ways.
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One of the most powerful and widespread Magickal Society, whose members are very powerful people, rich and influential in various fields, who come together to perform magickal operations, rituals etc, in order to influence the world.

Used to be highly secret, but they are all (these magickal societies) coming out of closet recently.
Why are they exposing themselves? I don't know, but it is definitely a sign the "time is nigh".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


The Golden Dawn is not that potent in all reality. The O.T.O holds far more potency. They are the Thelemic magickians but they are also just a club at this point (I'm ex-O.T.O fer fox lake). The truth of the matter is you are either weaving your own magick or you are trapped in someone elses spell.

The Outer Orders are merely reflections, they are not the essence of the deep darkness that permeates the world. If the name is known, it is 'not it'.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


Doesn't matter, I don't care.

Create your own magick how exactly? by making a salad out of older traditions with a tablespoon of one's own interpretation?
This is exactly the problem I talked about in my disclaimer in the OP.

Regardless, magick, in general, is forbidden by Torah.
Yet Torah posses in it the most powerful form of magick.
A form that involves the ritual operating through G-d, who is above the astral/stellar realm, thus it is not bound by it, as you magicians are...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


I'm a Born Again Christian leaning towards the Russian Orthodoxy. And you may note my (real) last name since I use my real name. You weave your magick by becoming prayer, not praying, becoming prayer. But having denied Christ you are stuck in your own private hell. Convert and be saved. I guess you missed that part in the Bible. I did say 'ex O.T.O'...the golden dwn is based upon your Qabbalah. You know, the Jwwish one. That is all.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


This is not the place to discuss about yes Jesus or not Jesus.

I am aware of the usage of Kabbalah in the magickal world.

It's not just the GD, it's the OTO... Heck, all magickal orders use it.

Because they recognized the power of it.
But for them, it is yet another system to add to their magickal salad of trying to operate through the astral/stellar realm.

Kabbalah is meant to operate from above the astral/stellar realm, via G-d himself to whom the astral/stellar is subject.

Just like the magicians of Egypt who begged to join the Israelites because they wished to learn the Magick of Moses, so would the modern magicians do once the Temple is built.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60641063


These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340904


That shit is stupid. The most that stuff does, is maybe entice a dead giant/nephilim(demon) to do some stuff for them.

Even the darker stuff, is stupid. In that, when they engage in human sacrifice and other f'ed up shit, the dark entities aren't feeding on the one being sacrificed by the lunatic, but are feeding on the one doing the sacrifice.

When a person does sinful stuff, it damages the outer layers of the soul, causing the inner substance to "rot". Certain beings and creatures can then feast on the vapor produced by the decomposition of the soul.

It is almost alarming, how much Lucas stuffed real occult teachings in his Star War's franchise. Still stupid though, as it goes against the basic principle of life:

To love and to be loved.

The energy produced by that, especially if it is done in a righteous manner, far exceeds any short term gains via the dark side route. I suppose because in the end, you end up resonating with the ONE MOST HIGH, as you resonate with his river, and since he is the most powerful being in that river, you submit to him.

When a person drinks from the river of sin, they then can become bound to those beings that are great and terrible, in the river of sin. Controlled, manipulated, and even devoured by them.

It is a scary thing to observe, as you realize our obsession with the concept of "free will" is an exercise in futility as it by and large, does not exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78341416


Not all magick is black, some may be considered "good".

But that doesn't make it right.

The central error is that magick is performed through the astrological constellations and planets and through the entities in the astral realm which are not demonic, but can be tricksters.

Also, in order to communicate with these powers/entities, they have to use systems that define them, symbols, myths... Lore, essentially.

But all these are highly polluted with the subjectivity of the men who created the lore in the first place.

The lore was created by magicians contacting these powers/entities, who might have tricked them, but more than that, the magician had to add his own interpretation and agenda into the lore, so it's a huge mess really.

And even worse, magicians are constantly mixing different lore systems together making matters even worse.

While true Torah magick, which can only be done in the Temple in Jerusalem, operates through a channel that is connected to G-d, thus the mess of the astral/stellar realm is by passed, because G-d is above that realm, which is in fact subject onto G-d.

So many magicians (Balaam for example) tried so hard to stop Israel, but as you can see... We are still here, and they hate us because part of our mission is to destroy their ways.
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None of that stuff matters. It is more of an emotional resonance issue.

Rituals can help focus and manipulate ones emotional state, but that is all it does.

Balaam wasn't a magician, he was an actual Prophet of the ONE MOST HIGH, that because of greed became cut off, and then practiced soothsaying. Thus his error reached completion and he was handed over for destruction.

That is the thing that ticks me off the most about alot of Jewish people, failure to own up to the truth. The reason Balaam tried to stand against the Israelite's, because the Canaanites bribed him. The reason the Canaanites bribed him, because they feared extermination.

Instead of taking the experience for what it was, and pack bags and flee, they doubled down on stupidity.

If you want to get into this kind of debate, I could point out the reason why every people who hated the Jewish people, hated them and why. Sometimes the reasons where understandable, sometimes they where fairly stupid.

Like with the Greek, it appears their disdain for Jewish people largely had to do with the Torah's condemnation of their wicked practices. While with the Roman's, it was a combination of Jewish hypocrisy, coupled with the normal shenanigans Jewish people pull even today(using money to influence power in other peoples societies). The Mongol's hated Jewish people, because of their ego(Mongol's ego) at being declared unclean, because of their unclean sanitary practices.*

The last I will speak of this matter: Israelite's where never meant to purge such practices from the Earth. From the land of Israel yes, but not the Earth. On the and of the Earth, the Israelite were meant to be a shining beacon to show every other people on the Earth, how it is supposed to be in all things.

How people are supposed to live in harmony with one another. How people are supposed to worship the ONE MOST HIGH, and how people are supposed to live their lives as individuals.

By going the route you advocate, you bring shame to the ONE MOST HIGH, and make him look bad.

In the end, it doesn't matter if someone performs magic rituals or just regular old sin, it is the same damage to the soul, that enables evil entities to manipulate and control them.

Think of us as radios and our conduct as the dial that determines what frequency we tune into. When we sin, we tune into frequencies of evil, that fill us up with evil and manipulate us to do further evil.

When we seek righteousness, we tune into the frequency of righteousness, it compels us to do further righteousness.



*Mongol's where pissed over Jewish and Muslims refusing food offered to them and etc. Khan even made it illegal for Jewish people and Muslims, to prepare their own food in his realm out of spite. That said, for the hygiene and dietary laws, they stack up to good science and have good valid reasons.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78274324


One of the most powerful and widespread Magickal Society, whose members are very powerful people, rich and influential in various fields, who come together to perform magickal operations, rituals etc, in order to influence the world.

Used to be highly secret, but they are all (these magickal societies) coming out of closet recently.
Why are they exposing themselves? I don't know, but it is definitely a sign the "time is nigh".
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Funny conversation this one..

They didn't have a choice. They weren't given one.

It's just a specific breeding pen for potential masonic husbands...nothing to see here...move along.

It's gross.
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These are the old type of vids that proliferated the internet few years ago, they do nothing but say "oooh spooky stuff you don't understand, satanic evil mystical groovy".

The later vids are different, they came out of the closet to explain what it is and how it really works.

I still think they have a crucial error in their ways. See the disclaimer in the OP.
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That shit is stupid. The most that stuff does, is maybe entice a dead giant/nephilim(demon) to do some stuff for them.

Even the darker stuff, is stupid. In that, when they engage in human sacrifice and other f'ed up shit, the dark entities aren't feeding on the one being sacrificed by the lunatic, but are feeding on the one doing the sacrifice.

When a person does sinful stuff, it damages the outer layers of the soul, causing the inner substance to "rot". Certain beings and creatures can then feast on the vapor produced by the decomposition of the soul.

It is almost alarming, how much Lucas stuffed real occult teachings in his Star War's franchise. Still stupid though, as it goes against the basic principle of life:

To love and to be loved.

The energy produced by that, especially if it is done in a righteous manner, far exceeds any short term gains via the dark side route. I suppose because in the end, you end up resonating with the ONE MOST HIGH, as you resonate with his river, and since he is the most powerful being in that river, you submit to him.

When a person drinks from the river of sin, they then can become bound to those beings that are great and terrible, in the river of sin. Controlled, manipulated, and even devoured by them.

It is a scary thing to observe, as you realize our obsession with the concept of "free will" is an exercise in futility as it by and large, does not exist.
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Not all magick is black, some may be considered "good".

But that doesn't make it right.

The central error is that magick is performed through the astrological constellations and planets and through the entities in the astral realm which are not demonic, but can be tricksters.

Also, in order to communicate with these powers/entities, they have to use systems that define them, symbols, myths... Lore, essentially.

But all these are highly polluted with the subjectivity of the men who created the lore in the first place.

The lore was created by magicians contacting these powers/entities, who might have tricked them, but more than that, the magician had to add his own interpretation and agenda into the lore, so it's a huge mess really.

And even worse, magicians are constantly mixing different lore systems together making matters even worse.

While true Torah magick, which can only be done in the Temple in Jerusalem, operates through a channel that is connected to G-d, thus the mess of the astral/stellar realm is by passed, because G-d is above that realm, which is in fact subject onto G-d.

So many magicians (Balaam for example) tried so hard to stop Israel, but as you can see... We are still here, and they hate us because part of our mission is to destroy their ways.
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None of that stuff matters. It is more of an emotional resonance issue.

Rituals can help focus and manipulate ones emotional state, but that is all it does.

Balaam wasn't a magician, he was an actual Prophet of the ONE MOST HIGH, that because of greed became cut off, and then practiced soothsaying. Thus his error reached completion and he was handed over for destruction.

That is the thing that ticks me off the most about alot of Jewish people, failure to own up to the truth. The reason Balaam tried to stand against the Israelite's, because the Canaanites bribed him. The reason the Canaanites bribed him, because they feared extermination.

Instead of taking the experience for what it was, and pack bags and flee, they doubled down on stupidity.

If you want to get into this kind of debate, I could point out the reason why every people who hated the Jewish people, hated them and why. Sometimes the reasons where understandable, sometimes they where fairly stupid.

Like with the Greek, it appears their disdain for Jewish people largely had to do with the Torah's condemnation of their wicked practices. While with the Roman's, it was a combination of Jewish hypocrisy, coupled with the normal shenanigans Jewish people pull even today(using money to influence power in other peoples societies). The Mongol's hated Jewish people, because of their ego(Mongol's ego) at being declared unclean, because of their unclean sanitary practices.*

The last I will speak of this matter: Israelite's where never meant to purge such practices from the Earth. From the land of Israel yes, but not the Earth. On the and of the Earth, the Israelite were meant to be a shining beacon to show every other people on the Earth, how it is supposed to be in all things.

How people are supposed to live in harmony with one another. How people are supposed to worship the ONE MOST HIGH, and how people are supposed to live their lives as individuals.

By going the route you advocate, you bring shame to the ONE MOST HIGH, and make him look bad.

In the end, it doesn't matter if someone performs magic rituals or just regular old sin, it is the same damage to the soul, that enables evil entities to manipulate and control them.

Think of us as radios and our conduct as the dial that determines what frequency we tune into. When we sin, we tune into frequencies of evil, that fill us up with evil and manipulate us to do further evil.

When we seek righteousness, we tune into the frequency of righteousness, it compels us to do further righteousness.



*Mongol's where pissed over Jewish and Muslims refusing food offered to them and etc. Khan even made it illegal for Jewish people and Muslims, to prepare their own food in his realm out of spite. That said, for the hygiene and dietary laws, they stack up to good science and have good valid reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78341416


Balaam was a magician who had worked in the court of Pharoah until he quit and became a traveling soothsayer/sorcerer indeed.

He didn't respect the Most High at all, the reason he told Balak that he could only say what the Most High reveals, is because G-d had come to him in a dream the night before and threatened him.

The reason Balak hated us, is not out of fear of extermination, at least not a physical one.
It is the reason all nations hate us.
It is they know that if we are successful it means it will be our way, not theirs, the world will be made in Judaism's image, not theirs.
It is very simple... No man is happy with the thought that he would have to accept the way of another and reject his own, to them it's a form of spiritual cuckoldry and I can definitely understand and empathize.
So all the complaints about Jewish shenanigans are ways for them to rationalize the reason for the opposition which derives from the above-mentioned reasons.

Magick is more problematic because it is powerful. It can create a whole new religion which then means we have to fight against for few years even centuries.
Also the astral/stellar entities are in on conspiracy against Israel because well... They don't want people to stop serving them. This is why Israel has no luck, or rather, bad luck, from one tragedy to the next, such is our history.

However, I can definitely agree, that Israel could have done better. Meaning one of the elements of the hatred derives from the fact we haven't been a light onto them as per our mandate.
Without light, they lack the nourishment they require, so with that hunger, they attack the source that is supposed to supply that nourishment.
The shell/husk/skin of a fruit attacks the fruit of the fruit does not nourish the shell/husk/skin.
But hey, it's pretty damn hard to do that job successfully when one is constantly under attack by magicians and others.
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One of the most powerful and widespread Magickal Society, whose members are very powerful people, rich and influential in various fields, who come together to perform magickal operations, rituals etc, in order to influence the world.

Used to be highly secret, but they are all (these magickal societies) coming out of closet recently.
Why are they exposing themselves? I don't know, but it is definitely a sign the "time is nigh".
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Funny conversation this one..

They didn't have a choice. They weren't given one.

It's just a specific breeding pen for potential masonic husbands...nothing to see here...move along.

It's gross.
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A lot of them are under the umbrella of Masonry, yes.
But most of them had and still have a choice.
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