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No Shoes for American feet...and the coming collapse...

 
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Are there any 100% American shoe companies left?
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[link to www.wolverine.com (secure)]
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This list might be a start.

[link to www.usalovelist.com (secure)]

I know a few shoe designers and they 3D print the prototypes, or have cobbler build them until they lock down the final designs. Somebody in purchasing tears them apart and gets the parts and assembly bid. Then the files are shipped to be manufactured overseas.

Entire Chinese towns were ordered to specialise in one part. If that town floods or is destroyed you are SOL. A few years ago we saw one of these supply chain chokes occur in hard drives.

Screw shoes, our drug precursors come from China.
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Thanks! I appreciate that.
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It is by design.

The Vatican and the British, want to destroy America the same way they destroyed Byzantine, the Russian Empire and the USSR.

By first stretching out, then disrupting the supply line for goods, services and food stuffs.
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OH, I have ZERO doubt it's by design.

They should have listened to Senator Joe McCarthy...

Thanks for your comment.
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many have brought this subject up for many years.

iron casting, metal works, repair part tooling of just about anything. All the dies, molds, and hardware are gone.

an interesting addition is an article I read a few years ago about a steel casting plant in Australia being taken apart and mothballed with alot of it going to China. From what I remember, it made someone very suspicious with some relativity to some 'civil emergency plan' of Australia. Not sure how to fill in the blanks at the moment.

anyway, the suspicious workers didn't do what they were told and they put the mfr equipment in containers and buried them instead of throwing them away. They felt very strongly that Australia is being intentionally dismantled in order to facilitate a Chinese take over.

we're done and this is all done with intention. Trump is a nwo stooge and has chosen the axiom 'If you can't beat em, join em' in regards to the NWO which will use Chinese and Russian troops as their law enforcement arm.
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This is very well written and so true, it hurts........
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I want to see a picture of dollar collapse is a lot of wealth will go with it or perceived wealth at least
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I want to see a picture of dollar collapse is a lot of wealth will go with it or perceived wealth at least
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hf
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Red Wings are made in the US.
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relevant

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Not that hard to recycle tires to make sandals or glue the soles onto hand sewn leather. They're shoes, it's not rocket science bro.
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This is very well written and so true, it hurts........
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Yes, it does hurt, doesn't it...badly! If I had known then what I know about the depth of the betrayal, I would have screamed bloody murder from the house tops. I would have sued for wrongful termination. I would have organized marches. I would have surrounded the CEOs yard with protestors day and night. I would have organized sit-ins at local politicians office, you name it.

Back then, I had too much respect for "capital" and the right of my bosses to be stupid, if they chose. I didn't quite yet recognize their actions as the TREASON it surely was.
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It is by design.

The Vatican and the British, want to destroy America the same way they destroyed Byzantine, the Russian Empire and the USSR.

By first stretching out, then disrupting the supply line for goods, services and food stuffs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78341416


OH, I have ZERO doubt it's by design.

They should have listened to Senator Joe McCarthy...

Thanks for your comment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77140800


many have brought this subject up for many years.

iron casting, metal works, repair part tooling of just about anything. All the dies, molds, and hardware are gone.

an interesting addition is an article I read a few years ago about a steel casting plant in Australia being taken apart and mothballed with alot of it going to China. From what I remember, it made someone very suspicious with some relativity to some 'civil emergency plan' of Australia. Not sure how to fill in the blanks at the moment.

anyway, the suspicious workers didn't do what they were told and they put the mfr equipment in containers and buried them instead of throwing them away. They felt very strongly that Australia is being intentionally dismantled in order to facilitate a Chinese take over.

we're done and this is all done with intention. Trump is a nwo stooge and has chosen the axiom 'If you can't beat em, join em' in regards to the NWO which will use Chinese and Russian troops as their law enforcement arm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


Very prescient and LOADED with truth.

Thanks!
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Not that hard to recycle tires to make sandals or glue the soles onto hand sewn leather. They're shoes, it's not rocket science bro.
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Whatcha gonna use for glue?...exactly?


(LOL...he thinks this is going to be easy...)
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Red Wings are made in the US.
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That's been mentioned four times now.
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Is this the foot fetish thread?
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Is this the foot fetish thread?
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LOL...No that's over at GoofLikeProductions...room 1311B.
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This past summer the shoes bought for my son to wear instead of the winter leather ones, collapsed in soles with him working in another hot State.
He never even had them on for more than week before the soles caved in on them.
They had hollow areas underneath the insole of them and foam like bottoms for soles.

These were name brand ones and two pairs were bought of them, it was like dry rotted shoes.

I bought two pairs of black leather ones about a month ago for the winter and they were so narrow I can not wear them, even though they are not sized for narrow foot.
I wear a large shoe size due to lenght and width they can never be narrow bought in size.

I will have to throw them away since trying to wear them to stretch them can cost me my feet.
I doubt I could ever get them stretched to the size they were bought, labeled and supposed to be.

I have better luck sticking with the black work shoes from the mens shoe section than ordering or buying any for women.
Same with clothing the mens wear is better than the womens when it comes to comfort and coverage.

The cheapness is in about everything you buy while Americans pay actully far too much for such junk.
It is not worth buying anymore and has been getting worse over time.

Never seen fabrics manufactured while never being delinted, to work in sewing factory on materials that are not delinted can cost you your lungs.

At home if you launder them they can cost you your home by setting the dryer on fire.

Sick of it.

Last Edited by Wondering Mind on 01/14/2020 07:10 AM
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OP, I agree and disagree.
From the beginning outsourcing has been around.
At one time the South produced huge cash crops of rice, indigo, turpentine, then cotton.

Then the cotton mills of the South ( early 1900's) made the rich, richer on the backs of cheap southern and child labor then all to move to a different Country when the cheap labor dried up. ( Civil war, Unions, Child labor laws etc).

As I walked through Walmart, Ross and Hamrick's shopping over Christmas I had the thought if we have a war with China the store shelfs will be empty of everything except food.

Then I thought in just the last 25-30 years I have seen consumer electronics ( The CD DVD player etc) move from the USA to Japan, then Malaysia / India and now to China.

From what I understand and have noticed is even your classic Japan brands such a JVC, Sony, Panasonic, Cannon ( Think Panasonic TV ) are hurting as Samsung Korean manufacturing has killed the Japan manufacturing market.


My thoughts are even without a war with China the manufacturing will move away from China in time as someone or some country can and will make it cheeper.

Think what North Korea could do if Kims cards are played right. Kim could be the new China manufacturing everything as his people would work for less many.



I get it OP as now my Converse Chuck Taylor high tops require Shoe Goo to keep the things together as the quality has gone to crap.

Converse, proudly made North of Charlotte NC years ago I now find I can no longer even buy a good shoe that will last. Its sad but I don't think the manufacturing of over seas goods will ever come back as the supply will simply keep moving around the world to whoever will work for the least money.

It is a sad state that WE, the consumer settles for China Junk! I hate the stuff and when I can I buy new old stock or used USA made if I can find it.

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Textiles is gone too
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This past summer the shoes bought for my son to wear instead of the winter leather ones, collapsed in soles with him working in another hot State.
He never even had them on for more than week before the soles caved in on them.
They had hollow areas underneath the insole of them and foam like bottoms for soles.

These were name brand ones and two pairs were bought of them, it was like dry rotted shoes.

I bought two pairs of black leather ones about a month ago for the winter and they were so narrow I can not wear them, even though they are not sized for narrow foot.
I wear a large shoe size due to lenght and width they can never be narrow bought in size.

I will have to throw them away since trying to wear them to stretch them can cost me my feet.
I doubt I could ever get them stretched to the size they were bought, labeled and supposed to be.

I have better luck sticking with the black work shoes from the mens shoe section than ordering or buying any for women.
Same with clothing the mens wear is better than the womens when it comes to comfort and coverage.

The cheapness is in about everything you buy while Americans pay actully far too much for such junk.
It is not worth buying anymore and has been getting worse over time.

Never seen fabrics manufactured while never being delinted, to work in sewing factory on materials that are not delinted can cost you your lungs.

At home if you launder them they can cost you your home by setting the dryer on fire.

Sick of it.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind


Yep, the decline in quality is greatly accelerating now. TPTB know that most of us who know what quality is--and with the gumption to complain--have shuffled off "this mortal coil," by now.
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Textiles is gone too
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As I see it anything and everything made with ones hands is gone or soon to be gone as other hands will make it cheaper.
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OP, I agree and disagree.
From the beginning outsourcing has been around.
At one time the South produced huge cash crops of rice, indigo, turpentine, then cotton.

Then the cotton mills of the South ( early 1900's) made the rich, richer on the backs of cheap southern and child labor then all to move to a different Country when the cheap labor dried up. ( Civil war, Unions, Child labor laws etc).

As I walked through Walmart, Ross and Hamrick's shopping over Christmas I had the thought if we have a war with China the store shelfs will be empty of everything except food.

Then I thought in just the last 25-30 years I have seen consumer electronics ( The CD DVD player etc) move from the USA to Japan, then Malaysia / India and now to China.

From what I understand and have noticed is even your classic Japan brands such a JVC, Sony, Panasonic, Cannon ( Think Panasonic TV ) are hurting as Samsung Korean manufacturing has killed the Japan manufacturing market.


My thoughts are even without a war with China the manufacturing will move away from China in time as someone or some country can and will make it cheeper.

Think what North Korea could do if Kims cards are played right. Kim could be the new China manufacturing everything as his people would work for less many.



I get it OP as now my Converse Chuck Taylor high tops require Shoe Goo to keep the things together as the quality has gone to crap.

Converse, proudly made North of Charlotte NC years ago I now find I can no longer even buy a good shoe that will last. Its sad but I don't think the manufacturing of over seas goods will ever come back as the supply will simply keep moving around the world to whoever will work for the least money.

It is a sad state that WE, the consumer settles for China Junk! I hate the stuff and when I can I buy new old stock or used USA made if I can find it.
 Quoting: Soundman


The race to the bottom is nearly complete now. There is no place to go, really, after China. AND...even the Chinese workers are demanding wage increases and other benefits of which their parents would never have dreamed.

Yea...Converse hung in there quite awhile, I know. But they succumbed as have 99% of all American footwear manufacturers.
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My husband was a journeyman carpenter - wore ‘Whites’. Sturdy work boots from Spokane, WA. They took a drawing of your foot and made you a customized boot. He did commercial and residential construction, rough work. He had 2 pairs in 25 years. Could get them resoled, new tops, tongue, etc by taking them to the shop for repair. He took care of them, cleaned and oiled frequently. An American Boot Co. - Making a great product.
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My husband was a journeyman carpenter - wore ‘Whites’. Sturdy work boots from Spokane, WA. They took a drawing of your foot and made you a customized boot. He did commercial and residential construction, rough work. He had 2 pairs in 25 years. Could get them resoled, new tops, tongue, etc by taking them to the shop for repair. He took care of them, cleaned and oiled frequently. An American Boot Co. - Making a great product.
 Quoting: Simple Sojourner


Yes, the artisanal manufacturers are wonderful, if you can find them near your community, and/or can afford them. Sadly though, the end of the container ships will still certainly spell the end of shoed Americans.
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This past summer the shoes bought for my son to wear instead of the winter leather ones, collapsed in soles with him working in another hot State.
He never even had them on for more than week before the soles caved in on them.
They had hollow areas underneath the insole of them and foam like bottoms for soles.

These were name brand ones and two pairs were bought of them, it was like dry rotted shoes.

I bought two pairs of black leather ones about a month ago for the winter and they were so narrow I can not wear them, even though they are not sized for narrow foot.
I wear a large shoe size due to lenght and width they can never be narrow bought in size.

I will have to throw them away since trying to wear them to stretch them can cost me my feet.
I doubt I could ever get them stretched to the size they were bought, labeled and supposed to be.

I have better luck sticking with the black work shoes from the mens shoe section than ordering or buying any for women.
Same with clothing the mens wear is better than the womens when it comes to comfort and coverage.

The cheapness is in about everything you buy while Americans pay actully far too much for such junk.
It is not worth buying anymore and has been getting worse over time.

Never seen fabrics manufactured while never being delinted, to work in sewing factory on materials that are not delinted can cost you your lungs.

At home if you launder them they can cost you your home by setting the dryer on fire.

Sick of it.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind


It's truly pathetic.

AND, where are "our" "representatives??" Oh that's right...they're all FREE TRAITORS on the payrolls of the treasonous, formerly American,corporations.
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Batavia Bootery, USA made products and other US brands...

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Products are gone. So is skilled labor.everything from production to construction. How long cubicle people can keep their little jobs on computers producing nothing is anyone’s guess.
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I walk barefoot, .
it's free, . .
and it feels good, . .
once the feet get conditioned,
and it's is healthy.
I reconnect with the world,
the real world, . .
and its healthy, . .
all to the point of
being a spiritual experience.





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