"GREEN ENERGY" MYTH BUSTED - 50,000 tons of used wind turbine blades in the landfill | |
BRIEF
User ID: 39607259 United States 01/13/2020 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I put of a wind generator about 21 years ago, and then I installed solar...fuck climbing the gen-pole and I'll be damned if I lower and raise that thing 70' in the air again...solar is money better spent...when we sold the property it was still pumping out the power though! Quoting: BRIEF There's going to be millions of solar panels heading to the landfills soon too. That's ok, they can be changed out one at a time like the batteries... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Mental Case
User ID: 78342399 United States 01/13/2020 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Weyoun
User ID: 77989510 United States 01/13/2020 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weyoun Plutonium is all natural. It came from the earth and to earth it returns. Just like organic beings. Plutonium is not generally found in nature. It is the by product of nuclear fission. [link to www.livescience.com (secure)] Nuclear fission is a natural process. Although there has been nuclear fission observed naturally in nature it was very little and was not controlled. [link to large.stanford.edu] Nuclear fission is ALWAYS happening. Everything is constantly undergoing nuclear fission. Everything is radioactive to some degree. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78068184 01/13/2020 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I put of a wind generator about 21 years ago, and then I installed solar...fuck climbing the gen-pole and I'll be damned if I lower and raise that thing 70' in the air again...solar is money better spent...when we sold the property it was still pumping out the power though! Quoting: BRIEF There's going to be millions of solar panels heading to the landfills soon too. That's ok, they can be changed out one at a time like the batteries... More h-1 visas get um ready Trump. Mexico and India need to be great again too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78054010 United Kingdom 01/13/2020 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It takes about 5 tons of coal per day to produce the equivalent amount of electricity as a large well placed wind turnine. Quoting: R. Wordsworth So in 20 years, thats about 36,000 tons of coal that weren't burnt. With 10 percent ash content that's 3,600 tons or about 120 tractor trailer loads of ash that must be landfilled. Each turbine blade fits on a single tractor trailer, so we're talking about 3 trucks of waste versus 120. And the blades are much less toxic than ash. Energy to do what exactly? Power cars? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33659422 United States 01/13/2020 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much electricity, oil, and coal are burned to manufacture one wind turbine? Quoting: Mental Case It takes about 3 years for a windmill to generate more energy than what it took to build. Though the blades might only last 15-20 years, the tower could last a hundred or more. And that's what takes most of the energy to build. I've worked at plenty of 50-60 year old power plants with their original generators. It's not like at the 20 year mark they have to dynamite the whole thing and start from scratch. |
BRIEF
User ID: 39607259 United States 01/13/2020 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It takes about 5 tons of coal per day to produce the equivalent amount of electricity as a large well placed wind turnine. Quoting: R. Wordsworth So in 20 years, thats about 36,000 tons of coal that weren't burnt. With 10 percent ash content that's 3,600 tons or about 120 tractor trailer loads of ash that must be landfilled. Each turbine blade fits on a single tractor trailer, so we're talking about 3 trucks of waste versus 120. And the blades are much less toxic than ash. Energy to do what exactly? Power cars? Yes, or toasters, or curling irons, or blenders, or durrrrrrrr I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4984976 United States 01/13/2020 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to srsroccoreport.com (secure)] Quoting: beeches Funny, no one seemed to consider what to do with the massive amount of wind turbine blades once they reached the end of their lifespan. Thus, the irony of the present-day Green Energy Movement is the dumping of thousands of tons of “non-recyclable” supposedly renewable wind turbine blades in the country’s landfills. Who would have thought? What’s even worse, is that the amount of wind turbine blades slated for waste disposal is forecasted to quadruple over the next fifteen years as a great deal more blades reach their 15-20 year lifespan. Furthermore, the size and length of the newly installed wind turbine blades are now twice as large as they were 20-30 years ago. Goodbye satanic pin wheels. No one will miss you, besides the devil. Who may sit on it, and rotate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 01/13/2020 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Eggcellently Deplorable
Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 77961993 United States 01/13/2020 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great article makes a lot of sense especially what to do with the,leftover blades. Quoting: redhed6971 What, insert them rectally into the Power Company Executives? "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Achduke7
User ID: 69637911 United States 01/13/2020 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saving the earth should be left to the individual but anyone destroying the earth should be held accountable. In other terms your rights end where you infringe on my rights or the rights of my family. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 01/13/2020 11:28 AM Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77390678 United States 01/13/2020 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they never "consider", they only try to make money. Quoting: beeches not a profit, these things generally don't - they do suck up taxpayer money like a sponge the size of the Antarctic The whole green energy was always about making money for specialized industries. And the entire green energy market never cared about recycling this stuff and they won't even think about it. They don't even include maintenance costs on this stuff. Much of it is largely ignored by the industry. If you mention it, you will get boos and angry looks from the people heavily involved in that industry. It got even worse as much of the manufacturing is now done in China where these people now get huge margins for selling this crap to the US. |
beeches
(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/13/2020 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much electricity, oil, and coal are burned to manufacture one wind turbine? Quoting: Mental Case probably more than they will ever let on. Anything "green", like a "Tesla" automobile, is laden with hidden costs to the earth that wipe out any gains. in the case of electric cars, the pollution involved in making the batteries is staggering. only to the pockets of Solyndra and Elon Mush do any benefits accrue... Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
beeches
(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/13/2020 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they never "consider", they only try to make money. Quoting: beeches not a profit, these things generally don't - they do suck up taxpayer money like a sponge the size of the Antarctic The whole green energy was always about making money for specialized industries. And the entire green energy market never cared about recycling this stuff and they won't even think about it. They don't even include maintenance costs on this stuff. Much of it is largely ignored by the industry. If you mention it, you will get boos and angry looks from the people heavily involved in that industry. It got even worse as much of the manufacturing is now done in China where these people now get huge margins for selling this crap to the US. Amen to that. Did a thread on it in the last few months, will link. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Mental Case
User ID: 78342399 United States 01/13/2020 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much electricity, oil, and coal are burned to manufacture one wind turbine? Quoting: Mental Case It takes about 3 years for a windmill to generate more energy than what it took to build. OK...then what about maintenance? What amount of energy goes into maintaining a wind turbine? I'm trying to get a good idea of total energy returned on energy invested. If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77390678 United States 01/13/2020 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they never "consider", they only try to make money. Quoting: beeches not a profit, these things generally don't - they do suck up taxpayer money like a sponge the size of the Antarctic The whole green energy was always about making money for specialized industries. And the entire green energy market never cared about recycling this stuff and they won't even think about it. They don't even include maintenance costs on this stuff. Much of it is largely ignored by the industry. If you mention it, you will get boos and angry looks from the people heavily involved in that industry. It got even worse as much of the manufacturing is now done in China where these people now get huge margins for selling this crap to the US. Amen to that. Did a thread on it in the last few months, will link. People have short memory spans. This has happened all before in the late 70's and 80's. There was a whole solar craze back then and afterwards it collapsed. |
Weyoun
User ID: 77989510 United States 01/13/2020 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Weyoun
User ID: 77989510 United States 01/13/2020 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saving the earth should be left to the individual but anyone destroying the earth should be held accountable. In other terms your rights end where you infringe on my rights or the rights of my family. That is very arrogant human-centric perspective. Humans cannot destroy nor save the earth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77390678 United States 01/13/2020 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much electricity, oil, and coal are burned to manufacture one wind turbine? Quoting: Mental Case It takes about 3 years for a windmill to generate more energy than what it took to build. OK...then what about maintenance? What amount of energy goes into maintaining a wind turbine? I'm trying to get a good idea of total energy returned on energy invested. These large windmills requires an expensive specialized large crane and dismantling the blades, then bringing down the motor to do repairs and replace bearings. You can see this happening all the time now on a regular basis at wind farms. |
Achduke7
User ID: 69637911 United States 01/13/2020 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saving the earth should be left to the individual but anyone destroying the earth should be held accountable. In other terms your rights end where you infringe on my rights or the rights of my family. That is very arrogant human-centric perspective. Humans cannot destroy nor save the earth. They can poison the earth which affects other people, animals and the ecosystem. Achduke |
beeches
(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/13/2020 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saving the earth should be left to the individual but anyone destroying the earth should be held accountable. In other terms your rights end where you infringe on my rights or the rights of my family. only trouble is, the leftists will be judge and jury so it is like it is today. why do you harbor the belief that the Earth needs saving, or that you or anyone else could do that? are you Atlas, the Greek god who holds the Earth on his shoulders ? we really have some famous posters here! Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Weyoun
User ID: 77989510 United States 01/13/2020 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saving the earth should be left to the individual but anyone destroying the earth should be held accountable. In other terms your rights end where you infringe on my rights or the rights of my family. That is very arrogant human-centric perspective. Humans cannot destroy nor save the earth. They can poison the earth which affects other people, animals and the ecosystem. Humans are part of the ecosystem, not an external force, and there are a large number of things much more significant than humans that can and do change the ecosystem, such as solar events, asteroids, supervolcanos, niburu, etc... That which poisons one species enables another species to thrive. Nature adapts. Last Edited by Weyoun on 01/13/2020 11:49 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71214588 United States 01/13/2020 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to srsroccoreport.com (secure)] Quoting: beeches Funny, no one seemed to consider what to do with the massive amount of wind turbine blades once they reached the end of their lifespan. Thus, the irony of the present-day Green Energy Movement is the dumping of thousands of tons of “non-recyclable” supposedly renewable wind turbine blades in the country’s landfills. Who would have thought? What’s even worse, is that the amount of wind turbine blades slated for waste disposal is forecasted to quadruple over the next fifteen years as a great deal more blades reach their 15-20 year lifespan. Furthermore, the size and length of the newly installed wind turbine blades are now twice as large as they were 20-30 years ago. ----------------------------------------- Due to the interest in related topics, adding a few extras now. Abiotic oil and why oil is the blood of the Earth, not a fossil remnant at all: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] exposing the scam called recycling: Thread: wanna 'save' the planet? BAN RECYCLING OP, perhaps it is still a move in the right direction. We just need to make improvements to the process, like learn how to make these turbines recyclable or permanent, etc. Clean energy is a must for the future (Kyoto Protocol). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33659422 United States 01/13/2020 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much electricity, oil, and coal are burned to manufacture one wind turbine? Quoting: Mental Case It takes about 3 years for a windmill to generate more energy than what it took to build. OK...then what about maintenance? What amount of energy goes into maintaining a wind turbine? I'm trying to get a good idea of total energy returned on energy invested. What about maintenance of a regular power plant? It's similar. Wind power isn't going to solve our energy problems, but I just get frustrated when I see people insinuating that somehow it doesn't work. Texas generates 17% of the power it uses with wind, the equivalent of about 4 large nuclear power plants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77726703 United States 01/13/2020 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Achduke7
User ID: 69637911 United States 01/13/2020 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 Saving the earth should be left to the individual but anyone destroying the earth should be held accountable. In other terms your rights end where you infringe on my rights or the rights of my family. That is very arrogant human-centric perspective. Humans cannot destroy nor save the earth. They can poison the earth which affects other people, animals and the ecosystem. Humans are part of the ecosystem, not an external force, and there are a large number of things much more significant than humans that can and do change the ecosystem, such as solar events, asteroids, supervolcanos, etc... One specie's poison is another specie's food. Nature adapts. I am glad that nature adapts but I could care less about the cockroaches as a whole. I care about my family and myself. After that my neighbors and sometimes about my country and the world but each in their order. if you think that is arrogant, well even though I care about the environment I am certainly no eco-martyr. Achduke |
beeches
(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/13/2020 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it shorely is one the leftists have turned into a secular religion. how many times have you heard someone say "I recycle religiously!" there's a reason for that. Leftism fully intends to replace God in every aspect of our lives. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Trained Noticer
Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States 01/13/2020 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to srsroccoreport.com (secure)] Quoting: beeches Funny, no one seemed to consider what to do with the massive amount of wind turbine blades once they reached the end of their lifespan. Thus, the irony of the present-day Green Energy Movement is the dumping of thousands of tons of “non-recyclable” supposedly renewable wind turbine blades in the country’s landfills. Who would have thought? What’s even worse, is that the amount of wind turbine blades slated for waste disposal is forecasted to quadruple over the next fifteen years as a great deal more blades reach their 15-20 year lifespan. Furthermore, the size and length of the newly installed wind turbine blades are now twice as large as they were 20-30 years ago. ----------------------------------------- Due to the interest in related topics, adding a few extras now. Abiotic oil and why oil is the blood of the Earth, not a fossil remnant at all: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] exposing the scam called recycling: Thread: wanna 'save' the planet? BAN RECYCLING OP, perhaps it is still a move in the right direction. We just need to make improvements to the process, like learn how to make these turbines recyclable or permanent, etc. Clean energy is a must for the future (Kyoto Protocol). O good Lord! The Kyoto Protocol... Another Globalist wet dream like Agenda 21/2030 ..."The Kyoto Protocol is an international agreement linked to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, which commits its Parties by setting internationally binding emission reduction targets. Recognizing that developed countries are principally responsible for the current high levels of GHG emissions in the atmosphere as a result of more than 150 years of industrial activity, the Protocol places a heavier burden on developed nations under the principle of "common but differentiated responsibilities."... [link to unfccc.int (secure)] For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
~Fire Watch~
User ID: 77410359 United States 01/13/2020 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States 01/13/2020 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |