Man who bought ‘residential’ firehouse sued by Seattle - for using as residence | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74753425 United States 01/14/2020 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article says it was advertised as "residential." He bought it as such. The municipal government is just trying to fleece the guy. this is that Marxist shithole Seattle - Communists gonna do what Communists gonna do. You make it, they take it. Quoting: XeroGravity :This3: :truthbomb: unless of course you stand up and fight , and take back what is already yours. |
Emerald_Empress
User ID: 59012273 United States 01/14/2020 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a third party involved, a real estate agent perhaps, who I assume was the party that advertised the property as unique residential. That real estate agent should have errors and omissions insurance and should be the party that was sued, not the city if my assumptions are correct. |
Patriot_In_Waiting
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Butch DeFeo
User ID: 78321694 United States 01/14/2020 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't someone tell him about this when he applied for permits to remodel the place? Quoting: Butch DeFeo Zoning = basic shit to know before buying real estate. The city sold the property as a residence. The property should have been re-zoned to residential before selling it to this guy. There were complaints, he must have a lot of traffic and cars coming and going to this place. He probably AirBNB's it to people for a big monthly haul. Or worse, has big parties there with cars parking all over the neighborhood, annoying all neighbors. The real problem is he is using a residential place as a commercial place, and the neighbors are complaining. The property could be re-zoned to residential by the city, so why won't the city do that? And then they would limit his commercial activity in his residence, because it's affecting his neighborhood. Literally half of what you said is counter to the interview and the article. And the other half you just made up. Nice work. It's not hard to guess what's going on. Have you proved me wrong? :DOCSRBAFFLED::redblueLED::DONTBEAPANDEMICS: Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN. |
Weyoun
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crazyK
User ID: 70683042 United States 01/14/2020 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77531256 Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other... Sign codes, at a local levels, is a way to keep a community from becoming a commercialized slum... |
Butch DeFeo
User ID: 78321694 United States 01/14/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Firehouse came with the most Epic Stripper Pole Ever! Worth Every Penny! Fuck 'em. Make it a Strip Joint since Seattle says it can not be a residence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72497887 MAGA Yeah hell they're throwing big parties all the time, probably selling tickets to the events there, and all the parking spots in the neighborhood are being taken up by the party goers. :DOCSRBAFFLED::redblueLED::DONTBEAPANDEMICS: Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN. |
Judethz
User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom 01/14/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reading between the lines I think he was running the place as a venue. As a neighbour I don't go looking for things to be offended about. but it's obvious from what he admitted that he's causing problems and they seem to be justified about complaining.. I'd say quiet family residence or else... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States 01/14/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77531256 Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other... They are WAY BETTER than an American city. Moron. Oh, so get some crap from CNN with Pedro's donkey and house of sticks and call that Mexico. MORON. Mexico blows America away in the housing department. Not even close. Mexican homes are built so well they don't need air conditioning. American homes are such crap that even with R-280 insulation they get hot as hell without AC, FOR WHAT? Build the house right and it won't be a sweat box. Mexican homes are built of poured concrete due to a lack of wood resources. Mexicans don't install AC because they can't afford it, not because they don't want it. Most of Mexico is seismically active and concrete homes do not fare well in an earthquake. In most of the houses the electrical is a total accident waiting to happen - basically no electric code. Sewer lines are substandard and cannot handle toilet paper, which must be tossed in a separe trash can next to the toilet. In many areas, water supplies are only on for part of the day, so houses must fill a cistern to supply water for the whole day. Most houses have no hot water. For hot showers, a suicide shower may be used. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States 01/14/2020 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304 Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing. I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73124185 United States 01/14/2020 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SEATTLE — Kroon purchased the property from the City of Seattle in a 2012 auction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77972350 Kroon told KIRO 7 he “thought we had essentially bought a residential property” for $712,000. The Seattle man then spent thousands of dollars on interior remodeling, and for more than three years, his extended family and friends used the firehouse for holidays, celebrations, charity fundraisers, graduation parties and as an office until a Land Use Notice of Violation arrived in July of 2016. According to the City of Seattle's violation letter, a "complaint about this property" had been received. A Housing and Zoning Inspector "investigated" and found "violations of the Seattle Land Use Code." [link to www.kiro7.com (secure)] Someone has to pay Sound Transits bills |
Butch DeFeo
User ID: 78321694 United States 01/14/2020 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304 Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing. I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it. It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road... Last Edited by Butch DeFeo on 01/14/2020 01:55 PM :DOCSRBAFFLED::redblueLED::DONTBEAPANDEMICS: Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN. |
Grove Street
User ID: 77822692 United States 01/14/2020 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77531256 Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other... Remember that tennant apartment that was owned by some hippies a couple years back, kind of a weird commune place that a man and his wife owned let dozens rent in pressured them into not complaining. They didnt follow basic coding and had pallets for stairs. It caught fire and burned up 20 or so people in a flaming inferno and the hippies were all shocked people were mad at him and he wasnt to blame. Codes are for conservatives not liberals kind of thingy. ghost ship warehouse [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Grove And this is why we can't have nice things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78333028 United States 01/14/2020 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344830 Hardly a residence. I didn’t see that. It stated it was used as an office and to host gatherings of extended family & friends, not that it was used as a commercial event facility. It also says that the city claimed the only legal use of the property was a fire station. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States 01/14/2020 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304 Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing. I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it. It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road... If I wanted to live next to a hotel I would have bought a house there. These laws exist because there are scumbags like this guy who have no problem annoying the shit out of all their neighbors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States 01/14/2020 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344830 Hardly a residence. I didn’t see that. It stated it was used as an office and to host gatherings of extended family & friends, not that it was used as a commercial event facility. It also says that the city claimed the only legal use of the property was a fire station. So the city expected someone to open a private fire service? Yeah right. We haven't had those in the states for like 100 years now. |
Jeff_43
User ID: 77312427 United States 01/14/2020 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304 Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing. I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it. It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road... If I wanted to live next to a hotel I would have bought a house there. These laws exist because there are scumbags like this guy who have no problem annoying the shit out of all their neighbors. I would be willing to bet that an occasional party would be much batter than a 24/7 functioning fire house, as far as noise is concerned. Those trucks are not quiet when they leave in a hurry. Neighbors nay also be wanting the firehouse back because their insurance rates would be raised when the fire house stopped being a fire house |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73641902 United States 01/14/2020 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304 Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing. I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it. It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road... Jesus Christ Dude, the city is complaining that he is using it as a residence as per the video and article. While it is zoned as a public facility. "Kroon was ordered to "discontinue all unauthorized uses including but not limited to office and residence" because "the legally established use of the property is as a public facility (fire station.)" I tried to point out your error and you literally doubled down on stupid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78333028 United States 01/14/2020 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344830 Hardly a residence. I didn’t see that. It stated it was used as an office and to host gatherings of extended family & friends, not that it was used as a commercial event facility. It also says that the city claimed the only legal use of the property was a fire station. So the city expected someone to open a private fire service? Yeah right. We haven't had those in the states for like 100 years now. Pretty asinine, huh? Probably why the city capitulated when he countersued. Seriously folks, there’s a short article & an informative video at OPs link. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77579743 United States 01/14/2020 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304 Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing. I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it. It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road... Jesus Christ Dude, the city is complaining that he is using it as a residence as per the video and article. While it is zoned as a public facility. "Kroon was ordered to "discontinue all unauthorized uses including but not limited to office and residence" because "the legally established use of the property is as a public facility (fire station.)" I tried to point out your error and you literally doubled down on stupid. This seems kinda odd on the county's part. Fire stations typically have offices and residences inside them. |
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Vicious Deplorable dollop
You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 36974242 United States 01/14/2020 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SEATTLE — Kroon purchased the property from the City of Seattle in a 2012 auction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77972350 Kroon told KIRO 7 he “thought we had essentially bought a residential property” for $712,000. The Seattle man then spent thousands of dollars on interior remodeling, and for more than three years, his extended family and friends used the firehouse for holidays, celebrations, charity fundraisers, graduation parties and as an office until a Land Use Notice of Violation arrived in July of 2016. According to the City of Seattle's violation letter, a "complaint about this property" had been received. A Housing and Zoning Inspector "investigated" and found "violations of the Seattle Land Use Code." [link to www.kiro7.com (secure)] Sound like something the Soviets or a Banana Republic would have done. democrats would have fit right in. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
Gabriel~
User ID: 3572018 Canada 01/14/2020 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How, exactly, is it hurting anyone when he uses it as a residential property? Why do they even care? Fuck laws against victimless crimes. The only true laws are from GOD. Humans don’t have the right to tell humans what they can and can’t do! The only reason why they get away with ridiculous laws like this, or criminalization of marijuana, is because the sheep mindlessly accept every law as just. Last Edited by Gabriel~ on 01/14/2020 05:42 PM I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3 We’re all in the same game; just different levels Dealing with the same hell; just different devils |
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