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I was reading a bio of General Solemani, and one of his ideological principles was "lead from the front." He was the top leader in Iran, following only the president. Yet, he was everywhere on the battlefield. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq...

This type of leadership builds undying loyalty among the troops, and is likely a significant contribution to Solemani's continuous success in defeating ISIS/ISIL in Syria and Iraq, and to his legendary status among Iranians and Shia militias across the mideast.

Americans are loaded with all forms of high tech weaponry, computer systems, comm systems and other gadgets. However, their leadership does not stray anywhere near the hot zones. I think this is demoralizing to the troops. Knowing that the commanders won't place themselves in harms way. The soldier feels like just a pawn, expendable, in some politician's war.

Trump and Pompeo have recently set a very aggressive stance towards their perceived enemies. They are promoting a policy of "strength through deterrence." This upsurge in military aggressiveness by the US would have more credibility and build morale, if the leadership would walk the talk.

I think this could be achieved if Trump and Pompeo were to pursue a physical fitness and weight loss regimen that meets base military requirements. This could be combined with meeting marksmanship standards, and demonstrating proficiency with basic battlefield armaments.

Trump and Pompeo could then spend more time in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria. Riding along on patrols, visiting the hot zones. This would give them credibility as military commanders, and give them a much better understanding of the situation on the ground.

Trump's campaign slogan was MAGA, Make America Great Again. Our greatest president led from the front. George Washington. Teddy Roosevelt organized and led the "Rough Riders," 1st United States Volunteer Cavalry in the Spanish-American war.

I think it is time for the president and his cabinet, to deliver that promise of making American great again, and start leading from the front.
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I was reading a bio of General Solemani, and one of his ideological principles was "lead from the front." He was the top leader in Iran, following only the president. Yet, he was everywhere on the battlefield. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq...

This type of leadership builds undying loyalty among the troops, and is likely a significant contribution to Solemani's continuous success in defeating ISIS/ISIL in Syria and Iraq, and to his legendary status among Iranians and Shia militias across the mideast.

Americans are loaded with all forms of high tech weaponry, computer systems, comm systems and other gadgets. However, their leadership does not stray anywhere near the hot zones. I think this is demoralizing to the troops. Knowing that the commanders won't place themselves in harms way. The soldier feels like just a pawn, expendable, in some politician's war.

Trump and Pompeo have recently set a very aggressive stance towards their perceived enemies. They are promoting a policy of "strength through deterrence." This upsurge in military aggressiveness by the US would have more credibility and build morale, if the leadership would walk the talk.

I think this could be achieved if Trump and Pompeo were to pursue a physical fitness and weight loss regimen that meets base military requirements. This could be combined with meeting marksmanship standards, and demonstrating proficiency with basic battlefield armaments.

Trump and Pompeo could then spend more time in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria. Riding along on patrols, visiting the hot zones. This would give them credibility as military commanders, and give them a much better understanding of the situation on the ground.

Trump's campaign slogan was MAGA, Make America Great Again. Our greatest president led from the front. George Washington. Teddy Roosevelt organized and led the "Rough Riders," 1st United States Volunteer Cavalry in the Spanish-American war.

I think it is time for the president and his cabinet, to deliver that promise of making American great again, and start leading from the front.
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We can't even expect that from cops....
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We can't even expect that from cops....
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We need someone to set an example at the top. Tippy top. That would be Trump. It's already affecting the military.

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Re: Should Trump and Pompeo be required to lose weight, get in shape, and demonstrate basic proficiency with small arms before starting wars?
How about we follow the constitution and except for needed response to attack, not one soldier sets foot on foreign soil absent a Declaration of War! Is that asking too much?
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How about we follow the constitution and except for needed response to attack, not one soldier sets foot on foreign soil absent a Declaration of War! Is that asking too much?
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Yes, it is asking to much for some of these people to have a brain cell to play with.
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How about we follow the constitution and except for needed response to attack, not one soldier sets foot on foreign soil absent a Declaration of War! Is that asking too much?
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That would be Making America Great Again.

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Re: Should Trump and Pompeo be required to lose weight, get in shape, and demonstrate basic proficiency with small arms before starting wars?
Before that, I'd demand that all posters on this forum be able to compose coherent sentences with correct punctuation and spelling before they spew out their disjointed thoughts.

[OP, understand this isn't directed at you personally -since you seem to be able to express yourself quite well- it's the remaining 90% of posters herein that need a serious reality check.]

As far as your proposition is concerned, it's bullshit. You don't have to murder someone to understand that it's a heinous crime, nor do you have to fight in a battle to understand they only reduce men to their most brutal common denominator; further, the POTUS is 70 years old and once you attain that age [I myself am 67] and still enjoy good health, there are far greater priorities than displaying a beach body. I've also seen more than enough pics of overweight, out-of-shape military Brass to support the concept that it's BRAINS and not BRAWN that make a good commander. Ever take a good look at Patton's body profile? He looked like he was carrying around at least 250 pounds! BTW: at 6'3", Trump is an inch taller than Patton was.

BTW: what makes you think for one second that President Trump CAN'T use a firearm? As a teenager, he attended a prestigious military academy and he's already on the record by saying several years ago that he's carried a gun in the past, and is currently licensed for conceal-carry; but, it's safe to further assume that the Secret Service have since disarmed him. They're a bit territorial that way!

Or -in Trump's case- maybe not! In either event, I wouldn't challenge him... remember that little incident at one of his rallies when some nitwit charged the stage and got about 10' away from the POTUS before his PPD agents tackled him? Trump didn't flinch one bit and if you watch that video, you may even see him start to reach inside his jacket.

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Re: Should Trump and Pompeo be required to lose weight, get in shape, and demonstrate basic proficiency with small arms before starting wars?
No, the military is supposed to have a civilian commander in chief. There are many VERY good reasons for that and if you can't figure any out you have major problems
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Re: Should Trump and Pompeo be required to lose weight, get in shape, and demonstrate basic proficiency with small arms before starting wars?
Before that, I'd demand that all posters on this forum be able to compose coherant sentences with correct punctuation and spelling before they spew out their disjointed thoughts.

[OP, understand this isn't directed at you personally -since you seem to be able to express yourself quite well- it's the remaining 90% of posters herein that need a serious reality check.]

As far as your proposition is concerned, it's bullshit. You don't have to murder someone to understand that it's a heinous crime; further, the POTUS is 70 years old and once oyu attian that age [I mysself am 67] there are far greater priorities than displaying a beach body. I'cve also seen more than enough pics of overweight, out-of-shape military Brass to support the concept that it's BRAINS and not BRAWN that make a good commander.

BTW: what makes you think for one second that President Trump CAN'T use a firearm? As a teenager, he attended a prestigious military academy and he's already on the record by saying several years ago that he's carried a gun in the past, and is currently licensed for conceal-carry; but, it's safe to further assume that the Secret Service have since disarmed him. They're a bit territorial that way!

Or -in Trump's case- maybe not!
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I agree. Such as spelling “Coherent” correctly before they criticize another poster about spelling without knowing how to do so themselves.

I also agree with OP. In a better time, our forefathers would have agreed and would have had the backbone to fight alone their own soldiers should the need arise. At the same time, that lack of valor IS NOT something exclusive to Donald Trump, so let’s be fair and not make it an accusation that makes a weak attempt to do so.
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Re: Should Trump and Pompeo be required to lose weight, get in shape, and demonstrate basic proficiency with small arms before starting wars?
No.. it is the MIND which must be in shape.
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No, quit acting stupidly.
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Before that, I'd demand that all posters on this forum be able to compose coherant sentences with correct punctuation and spelling before they spew out their disjointed thoughts.

[OP, understand this isn't directed at you personally -since you seem to be able to express yourself quite well- it's the remaining 90% of posters herein that need a serious reality check.]

As far as your proposition is concerned, it's bullshit. You don't have to murder someone to understand that it's a heinous crime; further, the POTUS is 70 years old and once oyu attian that age [I mysself am 67] there are far greater priorities than displaying a beach body. I'cve also seen more than enough pics of overweight, out-of-shape military Brass to support the concept that it's BRAINS and not BRAWN that make a good commander.

BTW: what makes you think for one second that President Trump CAN'T use a firearm? As a teenager, he attended a prestigious military academy and he's already on the record by saying several years ago that he's carried a gun in the past, and is currently licensed for conceal-carry; but, it's safe to further assume that the Secret Service have since disarmed him. They're a bit territorial that way!

Or -in Trump's case- maybe not!
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I agree. Such as spelling “Coherent” correctly before they criticize another poster about spelling without knowing how to do so themselves.

I also agree with OP. In a better time, our forefathers would have agreed and would have had the backbone to fight alone their own soldiers should the need arise. At the same time, that lack of valor IS NOT something exclusive to Donald Trump, so let’s be fair and not make it an accusation that makes a weak attempt to do so.
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Equally important to what I wrote above is the ability to graciously accept a reprimand and resolve the rebuke accordingly, as I have done by correcting the text of my comments - since the error slipped past my final check before hitting the "post" tab; it's also my practice to return to my posts to correct any misspellings/phrasings - you simply quoted my comments as I was in the process of doing just that. FYI: I could easily carp about the syntax in your reply but will instead ignore it.

However, to compare contemporary leadership with that of 244 years ago is ludicrous because everything we know has changed greatly since the days when the man with the sharpest sabre [metaphorical or not] ruled. Remember: might doesn't always make right.

BTW: the primary definition of "valor" is NOT pulling a Custer on a Little Big Horn or racing into a hail of bullets in a pitched battle... but it IS "possessing the quality of boldness or determination when facing great danger." I'd say that our President has displayed that in spades time and time again against enemies foreign AND domestic.

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Ummm Trump actually carries, has for years and has had access to the top security that money can buy. So I imagine he could slot you pretty easy if he wanted to. However the God Emperor will dismiss this smarmy thread with a wave of his golden hand and shine his light upon thee.
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Re: Should Trump and Pompeo be required to lose weight, get in shape, and demonstrate basic proficiency with small arms before starting wars?
Before that, I'd demand that all posters on this forum be able to compose coherant sentences with correct punctuation and spelling before they spew out their disjointed thoughts.

[OP, understand this isn't directed at you personally -since you seem to be able to express yourself quite well- it's the remaining 90% of posters herein that need a serious reality check.]

As far as your proposition is concerned, it's bullshit. You don't have to murder someone to understand that it's a heinous crime; further, the POTUS is 70 years old and once oyu attian that age [I mysself am 67] there are far greater priorities than displaying a beach body. I'cve also seen more than enough pics of overweight, out-of-shape military Brass to support the concept that it's BRAINS and not BRAWN that make a good commander.

BTW: what makes you think for one second that President Trump CAN'T use a firearm? As a teenager, he attended a prestigious military academy and he's already on the record by saying several years ago that he's carried a gun in the past, and is currently licensed for conceal-carry; but, it's safe to further assume that the Secret Service have since disarmed him. They're a bit territorial that way!

Or -in Trump's case- maybe not!
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I agree. Such as spelling “Coherent” correctly before they criticize another poster about spelling without knowing how to do so themselves.

I also agree with OP. In a better time, our forefathers would have agreed and would have had the backbone to fight alone their own soldiers should the need arise. At the same time, that lack of valor IS NOT something exclusive to Donald Trump, so let’s be fair and not make it an accusation that makes a weak attempt to do so.
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Equally important to what I wrote above is the ability to graciously accept a reprimand and resolve the rebuke accordingly, as I have done by correcting the text of my comments - since the error slipped past my final check before hitting the "post" tab. FYI: I could easily carp about the syntax in your reply but will instead ignore it.

However, to compare contemporary leadership with that of 244 years ago is ludicrous because everything we know has changed greatly since the days when the man with the sharpest sabre [metaphorical or not] ruled. Remember: might doesn't always make right.

BTW: the primary definition of "valor" is possessing the quality of boldness or determination when facing great danger. I'd say that our President has displayed that in spades time and time again against enemies foreign AND domestic.
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Trump has retained the country’s stereotype of fat, lazy, schlubs, and made Conservatives look like fools. People can say what they want about the Iranian general, but OP is right. He was willing to fight with his own people, and the person who is obligated to be the leader of our military will not. As I said though, it’s not something exclusive to Trump, so I don’t want to give the mistake of looking like I’m making an anti-Trump post, because I’m not. He’s the current in a line that came before and will continue after him. People would never say Vladimir Putin is a pussy because he’s not. Putin really is a badass and if Trump disrespected him, he’d teach him a lesson in respect. I don’t have to agree with his politics to know that. We need a President who has the backbone that other leaders who won’t fuck around with other countries are. Trump is more of an Un than he is a Putin.
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Yeah, they should have to run a sub 6 minute mile, just like FDR did while President.
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Before that, I'd demand that all posters on this forum be able to compose coherant sentences with correct punctuation and spelling before they spew out their disjointed thoughts.

[OP, understand this isn't directed at you personally -since you seem to be able to express yourself quite well- it's the remaining 90% of posters herein that need a serious reality check.]

As far as your proposition is concerned, it's bullshit. You don't have to murder someone to understand that it's a heinous crime; further, the POTUS is 70 years old and once oyu attian that age [I mysself am 67] there are far greater priorities than displaying a beach body. I'cve also seen more than enough pics of overweight, out-of-shape military Brass to support the concept that it's BRAINS and not BRAWN that make a good commander.

BTW: what makes you think for one second that President Trump CAN'T use a firearm? As a teenager, he attended a prestigious military academy and he's already on the record by saying several years ago that he's carried a gun in the past, and is currently licensed for conceal-carry; but, it's safe to further assume that the Secret Service have since disarmed him. They're a bit territorial that way!

Or -in Trump's case- maybe not!
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I agree. Such as spelling “Coherent” correctly before they criticize another poster about spelling without knowing how to do so themselves.

I also agree with OP. In a better time, our forefathers would have agreed and would have had the backbone to fight alone their own soldiers should the need arise. At the same time, that lack of valor IS NOT something exclusive to Donald Trump, so let’s be fair and not make it an accusation that makes a weak attempt to do so.
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Equally important to what I wrote above is the ability to graciously accept a reprimand and resolve the rebuke accordingly, as I have done by correcting the text of my comments - since the error slipped past my final check before hitting the "post" tab. FYI: I could easily carp about the syntax in your reply but will instead ignore it.

However, to compare contemporary leadership with that of 244 years ago is ludicrous because everything we know has changed greatly since the days when the man with the sharpest sabre [metaphorical or not] ruled. Remember: might doesn't always make right.

BTW: the primary definition of "valor" is possessing the quality of boldness or determination when facing great danger. I'd say that our President has displayed that in spades time and time again against enemies foreign AND domestic.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD



Trump has retained the country’s stereotype of fat, lazy, schlubs, and made Conservatives look like fools. People can say what they want about the Iranian general, but OP is right. He was willing to fight with his own people, and the person who is obligated to be the leader of our military will not. As I said though, it’s not something exclusive to Trump, so I don’t want to give the mistake of looking like I’m making an anti-Trump post, because I’m not. He’s the current in a line that came before and will continue after him. People would never say Vladimir Putin is a pussy because he’s not. Putin really is a badass and if Trump disrespected him, he’d teach him a lesson in respect. I don’t have to agree with his politics to know that. We need a President who has the backbone that other leaders who won’t fuck around with other countries are. Trump is more of an Un than he is a Putin.
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You would do well to reflect upon the impact "bad asses" have shared throughout history because from Alexander, Ceasar and Napoleon; to Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Kruschev and currently Putin, ALL have been vilified for their ruthlessness and dedication toward achieving their goals regardless of the suffering of countless innocents... and the exact SAME thing can be said about your "respected" General Soleimani. And that determination is just one of several traits that separate President Trump from that rest of that Rat pack.

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There is a reason the older folks are in charge. Look in native American's their chief is elderly and not in great shape. They have what no one else does, which is life experience. They are also not showing off or making rash decisions. Elders genuinely want to help the people prosper and leave that as a legacy.

To put in the requirements you suggested OP, makes you sound like you would rather have a dictator in a fluffed up generals outfit. There are plenty out there if that is what you are seeking. Please seek another land if you do not like ours.
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There is a reason the older folks are in charge. Look in native American's their chief is elderly and not in great shape. They have what no one else does, which is life experience. They are also not showing off or making rash decisions. Elders genuinely want to help the people prosper and leave that as a legacy.

To put in the requirements you suggested OP, makes you sound like you would rather have a dictator in a fluffed up generals outfit. There are plenty out there if that is what you are seeking. Please seek another land if you do not like ours.
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Chief Nana of the Apache was leading raids on supply trains and settlements in to his 80s. (Today, people eat terrible diets are sedentary and blame it on age.)

Nana, now almost 80 years old (according to some reports, nearly 90-years), formed his own war party with the Chihenne (Warm Springs Apache), enlisting loitering warriors in the reservations. His band joined by 15 Tsokanende, 12 Mescalero warriors and a couple of Navajo, plus women and children, began raiding Army supply trains and isolated settlers. In less than a month Nana fought seven or eight battles stretching over the course of 1,000 miles and killed 30-40 Americans, at least as many Mexicans, captured about 200 horses to replace 100 ridden to death and then fled back to Mexico. He and his small force, evaded more than 1,000 soldiers, 300-400 civilian militia volunteers and Apache and Navajo Indian Scouts.


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Meanwhile.. skinny Bern had a heart attack.
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I was reading a bio of General Solemani, and one of his ideological principles was "lead from the front." He was the top leader in Iran, following only the president. Yet, he was everywhere on the battlefield. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq...

This type of leadership builds undying loyalty among the troops, and is likely a significant contribution to Solemani's continuous success in defeating ISIS/ISIL in Syria and Iraq, and to his legendary status among Iranians and Shia militias across the mideast.

Americans are loaded with all forms of high tech weaponry, computer systems, comm systems and other gadgets. However, their leadership does not stray anywhere near the hot zones. I think this is demoralizing to the troops. Knowing that the commanders won't place themselves in harms way. The soldier feels like just a pawn, expendable, in some politician's war.

Trump and Pompeo have recently set a very aggressive stance towards their perceived enemies. They are promoting a policy of "strength through deterrence." This upsurge in military aggressiveness by the US would have more credibility and build morale, if the leadership would walk the talk.

I think this could be achieved if Trump and Pompeo were to pursue a physical fitness and weight loss regimen that meets base military requirements. This could be combined with meeting marksmanship standards, and demonstrating proficiency with basic battlefield armaments.

Trump and Pompeo could then spend more time in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria. Riding along on patrols, visiting the hot zones. This would give them credibility as military commanders, and give them a much better understanding of the situation on the ground.

Trump's campaign slogan was MAGA, Make America Great Again. Our greatest president led from the front. George Washington. Teddy Roosevelt organized and led the "Rough Riders," 1st United States Volunteer Cavalry in the Spanish-American war.

I think it is time for the president and his cabinet, to deliver that promise of making American great again, and start leading from the front.
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Are you a joker or what??lmfao
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We can't even expect that from cops....
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We need someone to set an example at the top. Tippy top. That would be Trump. It's already affecting the military.

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Ok, first of all hes I'm his 70s and can be overweight if he chooses lol

Hes the leader he shouldn't have to prove shit, he was smart enough to become president that's all he needed

End of story
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No, they are not grunts.
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They have to have served and have a child enlisted currently.

That should weed out the isreal first chicken hawks out.
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Re: Should Trump and Pompeo be required to lose weight, get in shape, and demonstrate basic proficiency with small arms before starting wars?
bush junior STARTED A WAR jfk STARTED A WAR

trump is fending off war

trump thinks wars are too expensive
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Re: Should Trump and Pompeo be required to lose weight, get in shape, and demonstrate basic proficiency with small arms before starting wars?
I was reading a bio of General Solemani, and one of his ideological principles was "lead from the front." He was the top leader in Iran, following only the president. Yet, he was everywhere on the battlefield. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq...

This type of leadership builds undying loyalty among the troops, and is likely a significant contribution to Solemani's continuous success in defeating ISIS/ISIL in Syria and Iraq, and to his legendary status among Iranians and Shia militias across the mideast.

Americans are loaded with all forms of high tech weaponry, computer systems, comm systems and other gadgets. However, their leadership does not stray anywhere near the hot zones. I think this is demoralizing to the troops. Knowing that the commanders won't place themselves in harms way. The soldier feels like just a pawn, expendable, in some politician's war.

Trump and Pompeo have recently set a very aggressive stance towards their perceived enemies. They are promoting a policy of "strength through deterrence." This upsurge in military aggressiveness by the US would have more credibility and build morale, if the leadership would walk the talk.

I think this could be achieved if Trump and Pompeo were to pursue a physical fitness and weight loss regimen that meets base military requirements. This could be combined with meeting marksmanship standards, and demonstrating proficiency with basic battlefield armaments.

Trump and Pompeo could then spend more time in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria. Riding along on patrols, visiting the hot zones. This would give them credibility as military commanders, and give them a much better understanding of the situation on the ground.

Trump's campaign slogan was MAGA, Make America Great Again. Our greatest president led from the front. George Washington. Teddy Roosevelt organized and led the "Rough Riders," 1st United States Volunteer Cavalry in the Spanish-American war.

I think it is time for the president and his cabinet, to deliver that promise of making American great again, and start leading from the front.
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How could Trump be expected to do all that walking? He’s got bone spurs, you know?





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