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SAN DIEGO - The Centers for Disease Control have sent out a warning about a new strain of flu that current vaccines may not be effective against.

The strain hasn't been reported in San Diego County, and it is not clear if it is contagious, but if it turns out that it is, local doctors say the flu shot will likely not be able to protect people against it.

"If there's a strain that begins to circulate in the community that's new, that won't be covered by the vaccine," said Dr. John Bradley, chief of infectious disease at Rady Children's Hospital. "It takes about a year, once a new strain has been identified, to create a vaccine for that new strain."

The news comes during an already active flu season. Bradley said the number of people getting sick with the flu has risen. However, the number flu deaths is down so far this year.


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Coastie Patriot
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THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

A country that's divided
Surely will not stand
My past erased, no more disgrace
No foolish naive stand
The end is near, it's crystal clear
Part of the master plan MEGADETH- HOLY WARS

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
the virus mutates to fast for the immunization to be effective in most cases
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

A country that's divided
Surely will not stand
My past erased, no more disgrace
No foolish naive stand
The end is near, it's crystal clear
Part of the master plan MEGADETH- HOLY WARS

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
They are right about that.
Some may have gained immunity to them if they have already had a type of the flu in their past.
While those who have not ever had a type of the flu in the past can get it even with vaccinations.
Even senior citizens who had all their shots still got it.
The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds.
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
They are right about that.
Some may have gained immunity to them if they have already had a type of the flu in their past.
While those who have not ever had a type of the flu in the past can get it even with vaccinations.
Even senior citizens who had all their shots still got it.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind


I wonder if you had one strain and it mutates do the leukocytes know that strain or do they have to learn the variation to defeat it!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

A country that's divided
Surely will not stand
My past erased, no more disgrace
No foolish naive stand
The end is near, it's crystal clear
Part of the master plan MEGADETH- HOLY WARS

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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g0mer-surprise
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Is that code for "the shot is spreading it"?
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
SAN DIEGO - The Centers for Disease Control have sent out a warning about a new strain of flu that current vaccines may not be effective against.

The strain hasn't been reported in San Diego County, and it is not clear if it is contagious, but if it turns out that it is, local doctors say the flu shot will likely not be able to protect people against it.

"If there's a strain that begins to circulate in the community that's new, that won't be covered by the vaccine," said Dr. John Bradley, chief of infectious disease at Rady Children's Hospital. "It takes about a year, once a new strain has been identified, to create a vaccine for that new strain."

The news comes during an already active flu season. Bradley said the number of people getting sick with the flu has risen. However, the number flu deaths is down so far this year.


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 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


I haven't had the flu since I was like 13

I'm 48 now

I go out in public daily, stores, I'm around people all the time, in my business I meet and shake many hands daily

I have never had the flu shot and never will
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
SAN DIEGO - The Centers for Disease Control have sent out a warning about a new strain of flu that current vaccines may not be effective against.

The strain hasn't been reported in San Diego County, and it is not clear if it is contagious, but if it turns out that it is, local doctors say the flu shot will likely not be able to protect people against it.

"If there's a strain that begins to circulate in the community that's new, that won't be covered by the vaccine," said Dr. John Bradley, chief of infectious disease at Rady Children's Hospital. "It takes about a year, once a new strain has been identified, to create a vaccine for that new strain."

The news comes during an already active flu season. Bradley said the number of people getting sick with the flu has risen. However, the number flu deaths is down so far this year.


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They are cheap as hell now too. A million "yankee ditz" employees that have no big picture clue and are about the "evangelicals" of sciences, all getting sombrero salaries is the new model. Bunch of top shelf taking all the pie when its not really about shit but soylent peasant and salary farm. One of the most swollen with assholes entities there are. 75 board member salaries and all of them about the same as strozyks girlfriend.

Of course it would be a "new strain" it will take a year to get a vaccine for and of course the flu shot is 30% at best.
Whats surreal is the huge number of gluttonous ticks getting paid for that common sense blurb to come out.
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Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
So it is partially effective it seems. Since it is not an exact match but still a partial match, the mutated strain may still be identified by your immune system as a ‘partial match’ and reduce how long your are sick once the mutated virus reaches your lymph nodes a day after. Then the memory T cells in your lymph nodes generated by the vaccine may help identify the mutated strain and how to destroy it.

I think the big improvement in vaccines will be to create memory T Cells that can identify multiple viruses and mutations. That could lead to a universal flu vaccine.
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They are probably the cause of the new flu strain.
I lost my apathy.
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
SAN DIEGO - The Centers for Disease Control have sent out a warning about a new strain of flu that current vaccines may not be effective against.

The strain hasn't been reported in San Diego County, and it is not clear if it is contagious, but if it turns out that it is, local doctors say the flu shot will likely not be able to protect people against it.

"If there's a strain that begins to circulate in the community that's new, that won't be covered by the vaccine," said Dr. John Bradley, chief of infectious disease at Rady Children's Hospital. "It takes about a year, once a new strain has been identified, to create a vaccine for that new strain."

The news comes during an already active flu season. Bradley said the number of people getting sick with the flu has risen. However, the number flu deaths is down so far this year.


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 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


I haven't had the flu since I was like 13

I'm 48 now

I go out in public daily, stores, I'm around people all the time, in my business I meet and shake many hands daily

I have never had the flu shot and never will
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78345565



washing your hand is key to avoiding alot of illness and not rubbing eye nose and mouth
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

A country that's divided
Surely will not stand
My past erased, no more disgrace
No foolish naive stand
The end is near, it's crystal clear
Part of the master plan MEGADETH- HOLY WARS

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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I've been super healthy my whole life. I eat right and don't put things in my body that lower my resistance. This year everyone in the house gets that shit. I haven't been sick in over thirty years. Something isn't right.
I lost my apathy.
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
SAN DIEGO - The Centers for Disease Control have sent out a warning about a new strain of flu that current vaccines may not be effective against.

The strain hasn't been reported in San Diego County, and it is not clear if it is contagious, but if it turns out that it is, local doctors say the flu shot will likely not be able to protect people against it.

"If there's a strain that begins to circulate in the community that's new, that won't be covered by the vaccine," said Dr. John Bradley, chief of infectious disease at Rady Children's Hospital. "It takes about a year, once a new strain has been identified, to create a vaccine for that new strain."

The news comes during an already active flu season. Bradley said the number of people getting sick with the flu has risen. However, the number flu deaths is down so far this year.


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 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


I haven't had the flu since I was like 13

I'm 48 now

I go out in public daily, stores, I'm around people all the time, in my business I meet and shake many hands daily

I have never had the flu shot and never will
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78345565



washing your hand is key to avoiding alot of illness and not rubbing eye nose and mouth
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


A nurse asked me once if i wanted the flu shot and i said not just no but hell no!! she looked around and said good for you!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

A country that's divided
Surely will not stand
My past erased, no more disgrace
No foolish naive stand
The end is near, it's crystal clear
Part of the master plan MEGADETH- HOLY WARS

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Obviously there would be no effect on a new strain.
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EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.

but don't say we told you so.... we are the "retards that don't get the vaccine", right?
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
They are probably the cause of the new flu strain.
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There has been the big secret flu strain in china, where most emerge - but i dont think its a natural thing so much as "weather wizardry" they have been doing for awhile.
I've been super healthy my whole life. I eat right and don't put things in my body that lower my resistance. This year everyone in the house gets that shit. I haven't been sick in over thirty years. Something isn't right.
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It burns the lung tissue good. 2-3 weeks after the virus and the cough remains
EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.

but don't say we told you so.... we are the "retards that don't get the vaccine", right?
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We ain't seen nothing yet. That "grey state" movie coming to the left coast

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Vaccines don't even work if you had the EXACT strain in the vaccine. They are a total moneymaking scam, depopulating and causing tons of autism in the process.
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cuz it's the new coronavirus, not a flu
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The only thing the vaccine is good for is GIVING you the flu.
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"San Diego" LOL! Keep that border open!
<<<<<< That damn Canadian flag. I live in the Midwest..........WTF?
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Both of my parents were suckered into getting the double strength flu shot since they are in their 70's. Both ended up with the flu.
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They say this every year.
What year has the flu shot ever been effective?
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I believe that, I also believe the vaccinated will be sicker from many ailments than people who take basic precautions.
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Is that code for "the shot is spreading it"?
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ohyeah
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They are probably the cause of the new flu strain.
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Of course they are. We're just a bunch of lab rats to them.
There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist...

Oh, and the riots didn't start themselves...
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Re: Health officials warn vaccines likely ineffective against new flu strain
SAN DIEGO - The Centers for Disease Control have sent out a warning about a new strain of flu that current vaccines may not be effective against.

The strain hasn't been reported in San Diego County, and it is not clear if it is contagious, but if it turns out that it is, local doctors say the flu shot will likely not be able to protect people against it.

"If there's a strain that begins to circulate in the community that's new, that won't be covered by the vaccine," said Dr. John Bradley, chief of infectious disease at Rady Children's Hospital. "It takes about a year, once a new strain has been identified, to create a vaccine for that new strain."

The news comes during an already active flu season. Bradley said the number of people getting sick with the flu has risen. However, the number flu deaths is down so far this year.


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 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


I haven't had the flu since I was like 13

I'm 48 now

I go out in public daily, stores, I'm around people all the time, in my business I meet and shake many hands daily

I have never had the flu shot and never will
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washing your hand is key to avoiding alot of illness and not rubbing eye nose and mouth
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


I know. It's crazy simple damned
There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist...

Oh, and the riots didn't start themselves...
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I've been super healthy my whole life. I eat right and don't put things in my body that lower my resistance. This year everyone in the house gets that shit. I haven't been sick in over thirty years. Something isn't right.
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hf
There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist...

Oh, and the riots didn't start themselves...
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Both of my parents were suckered into getting the double strength flu shot since they are in their 70's. Both ended up with the flu.
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God that pisses me off redface
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I was suckered into my first ever flu shot a few years back. I was so sick for 2 darn years afterwards. It kills your immunity. I will never again get the flu shot. Just like I will never again get a root canal.
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Stay away far away from sick people.
don't shake hands,, do fist bump.
don't touch public door handles.
run away from any coughing or sneezing people.
don't eat at any food bars.
if your waitress or cook looks sick,,,get up and leave fast.
Its O.K. to wear a surgical mask in any public place.
when someone tells you they are sick - start backing up & leave,,you have just been warned!
Flu shots don't work & you don't know what they really put in that shot.
The CDC makes Billions selling flu shots and thats why they tell ya to get one... NOT ME!
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Both of my parents were suckered into getting the double strength flu shot since they are in their 70's. Both ended up with the flu.
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God that pisses me off redface
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Have you seen the tv commercial for this double dose? It just feels deceptive the whole way through. I don't know how anyone in their right mind can sit back and think that's a good idea. Creepy.
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