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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78330893 United States 01/15/2020 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kansas is where Obama’s mother, grandparents and biological father, the communist pornographer Frank Marshal Davis, were from. While in general I nor most people would consider Kansas as a major target for terrorism it does occur to me that, since it’s located in the EXACT GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER of the USA any major acts of terrorism would have a profound PSYCHOLOGICAL effect, just as the bombing of the World Trade Center and Pentagon did. |
Agent MIB
User ID: 77847059 Philippines 01/15/2020 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in the last year they have moved several government (Washington) offices to Kansas. I heard this via NPR 2 months ago. Quoting: miabelieves Most of the Federal agencies have been relocating to Colorado (Denver) and Utah (SLC). In fact, the NSA has a huge data center in Utah and locals are complaining about the amount of water the facility is using to cool the NSA data center. You are born with the truth, then taught a lie. |
itsallme
User ID: 77326547 United States 01/15/2020 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shoot I just saw this thread after I already did a post (sorry). The reason separate briefings are given is to avoid Freedom of Information act. Also I looked up research facility in Kansas and found this [ [link to www.dhs.gov (secure)] Its an f*ing bio containment facility managed by the DHS. Deep State trying to F us again. Trump should just declare marshal law and arrest them all. itsallme |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/15/2020 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the security briefing is most likely about A. Our new air tankers stationed here at McConnell AFB and also in Topeka and B. about The Spirit/Boeing 737 Max issue and C. What Beer Mahones is going to drink after KC wins against the Titans Sunday? So DOOM OFF UNLESS your a Titans fan. Quoting: redhed6971 None of the above but you're [generally] correct about our KS gun laws. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 01/15/2020 09:46 PM |
Red Rider
User ID: 77057474 United States 01/15/2020 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I know. It was also talked up as a prestigious feather in their hat to have it in Kansas and a boon to the economy when it was first announced. Quoting: Red Rider Yeah it was a laughable feather but it played into the President of K-State's 2025 plan to have K-State be a major research university. Not sure if Richard Meyer has continued that plan or foo foo'd it. Though I always thought he was an interesting choice to take the helm after Schulz went west... Meyer being a former Chairman Joint Chief and all. The GDP boost always seemed anemic or overblown in any figures I saw. I just figured the boost would come from the increase in support infrastructure as companies move resources here to take advantage of the facility. I always thought that Pat Roberts being on Intelligence Committee and Armed Services Committee had some bearing on it as he had influence at K-State as well. |
redhed6971
User ID: 72089733 United States 01/15/2020 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: redhed6971 Wrong I live in WICHITA and Kansas is an open carry state and a concealed carry state with permit only. I know my friends arenLEO. And my state rep I live here aswell, kansas switched to a constitution conceal carry state a few years back but they also still issue ccw licenses as well Wrong you still need a CC license to carry concealed ask a cop or your attorney. I also know people who are,top notch competition shooters and let me tell you they know all the rules. Ranges I shoot at Knapp, Range 54, Bullseye, Bullet Stop are my favorites. In 2015, Kansas passed S.B. 45 into law, authorizing anyone 21 years of age and older to carry a concealed firearm on their person without a license or permit. Individuals under 21 years of age may only do so when on their own land, abode, or fixed place of business. You should let your range and LEO know to search SB 45 conceal carry and have them learn the new law before they get themselves sued. Ah yes I’m sorry I’m blowing smoke out my own ass. I remember now. I was against it in 2014-2015 and so was my local state rep. I wanted some accountability that vetting CC holders allowed and not to let just ANY body carry a loaded gun around. Any way I was in Great Britain when it passed and was signed by Brownbackistan. I never bothered with it again because it didn’t really apply to me. I also had a friend from Boy Scouts who was a sheriff’s officer killed in the line of duty while I was I. College. I never went back to review that because quite frankly it never came up. I researched it just now and still it is legal but with a shit ton of ifs ands buts. “Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.” "Hello, I need a replacement filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro." “You actually slaughter each other over affairs of the spirit.” Da’an Earth-Final Conflict |
redhed6971
User ID: 72089733 United States 01/15/2020 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the security briefing is most likely about A. Our new air tankers stationed here at McConnell AFB and also in Topeka and B. about The Spirit/Boeing 737 Max issue and C. What Beer Mahones is going to drink after KC wins against the Titans Sunday? So DOOM OFF UNLESS your a Titans fan. Quoting: redhed6971 None of the above but you're correct about our KS gun laws. Actually I researched it open carry in Kansas is allowed. I wasn’t here when it passed. “Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.” "Hello, I need a replacement filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro." “You actually slaughter each other over affairs of the spirit.” Da’an Earth-Final Conflict |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/15/2020 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78105813 Kansas is a concealed carry state, you don't even need a permit to carry concealed. Missouri is the same way. No VA bull$h1t in Kansas or Missouri. Staunch conservative territory here. Wrong I live in WICHITA and Kansas is an open carry state and a concealed carry state with permit only. I know my friends arenLEO. And my state rep I live here aswell, kansas switched to a constitution conceal carry state a few years back but they also still issue ccw licenses as well Wrong you still need a CC license to carry concealed ask a cop or your attorney. I also know people who are,top notch competition shooters and let me tell you they know all the rules. Ranges I shoot at Knapp, Range 54, Bullseye, Bullet Stop are my favorites. A a retired USPS employee it always freaks me out a little bit whe I shoot at the Bullet Stop since the building is a former post office [the old Munger station]; the next time you're in there take a look along the long side walls of the gallery and you'll still see indentations in the floor where the carrier cases once stood where they sorted the mail. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 01/15/2020 09:54 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73357075 United States 01/15/2020 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're getting ready to implement Soros-Bloomberg gun confiscation agenda like in VA. Quoting: XeroGravity Kansas is a concealed carry state, you don't even need a permit to carry concealed. Missouri is the same way. No VA bull$h1t in Kansas or Missouri. Staunch conservative territory here. Wrong I live in WICHITA and Kansas is an open carry state and a concealed carry state with permit only. I know my friends arenLEO. And my state rep Open and concealed carry are legal in Kansas. ... In terms of reciprocity, since Kansas has permitless carry, any person 21 years of age and older who can legally possess a firearm may carry a concealed firearm on his or her person without a license or permit [link to www.usconcealedcarry.com (secure)] |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/15/2020 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Angel of Death I live here aswell, kansas switched to a constitution conceal carry state a few years back but they also still issue ccw licenses as well Wrong you still need a CC license to carry concealed ask a cop or your attorney. I also know people who are,top notch competition shooters and let me tell you they know all the rules. Ranges I shoot at Knapp, Range 54, Bullseye, Bullet Stop are my favorites. In 2015, Kansas passed S.B. 45 into law, authorizing anyone 21 years of age and older to carry a concealed firearm on their person without a license or permit. Individuals under 21 years of age may only do so when on their own land, abode, or fixed place of business. You should let your range and LEO know to search SB 45 conceal carry and have them learn the new law before they get themselves sued. In fairness, while it isn't required it is heavily recommended to have your CC permit so as to help with the paperwork should you be involved in an incident. It is also useful to take the classes in general if you are someone who didn't grow up around firearms and don't know much about their upkeep, safety, and use. In rural parts around me, the CC permit is largely seen as a joke, as many would just open carry. If I hear someone say they were anti-gun and now they have changed their minds (has happened a few times in the last few years from people who've moved out here), I encourage them to go through the CC permit process so they get the training they need. Second Amendment doesn't demand it, but I sure as heck would like them to know which end of the gun the bullets come out of. Good intentions don't keep a gun from going off in your face if you're doing it wrong. Sound advice. My Brother's a Butler County Sheriff's Deputy and around the Christmas table he said the exact same things about KS CC permits. He DID surprise me as the talk turned to the JFK assassination and revealed he once shot a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle identical to the one used by Oswald... and confirmed it WAS just a worthless piece of junk. I knew he'd fired a wide variety of weapons, but that one impressed me a bit. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 01/15/2020 09:52 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77842361 United States 01/15/2020 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're getting ready to implement Soros-Bloomberg gun confiscation agenda like in VA. Quoting: XeroGravity Kansas is a concealed carry state, you don't even need a permit to carry concealed. Missouri is the same way. No VA bull$h1t in Kansas or Missouri. Staunch conservative territory here. Wrong I live in WICHITA and Kansas is an open carry state and a concealed carry state with permit only. I know my friends arenLEO. And my state rep Open and concealed carry are legal in Kansas. ... In terms of reciprocity, since Kansas has permitless carry, any person 21 years of age and older who can legally possess a firearm may carry a concealed firearm on his or her person without a license or permit [link to www.usconcealedcarry.com (secure)] yup yup |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78105813 United States 01/15/2020 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're getting ready to implement Soros-Bloomberg gun confiscation agenda like in VA. Quoting: XeroGravity Kansas is a concealed carry state, you don't even need a permit to carry concealed. Missouri is the same way. No VA bull$h1t in Kansas or Missouri. Staunch conservative territory here. Wrong I live in WICHITA and Kansas is an open carry state and a concealed carry state with permit only. I know my friends arenLEO. And my state rep What do you mean wrong??? I worked for Topeka PD when they passed it. Concealed carry NO LONGER needs a CCW, and hasn't required a CCW to carry since July 2015. Here's one of many links you can read for yourself. [link to www.gunstocarry.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78105813 United States 01/15/2020 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't know about that. My understanding, was any business that displayed the state approved "No Concealed Weapons" sign, would make it a crime to carry one inside. I live in Missouri now. That state passed concealed weapons carry, without a permit just a couple of years ago, following what Kansas did. But you can still get a permit if you want to. I've not heard of any of the craziness that the liberal media said would happen for states that did this. |
Dodah
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Exusiai
User ID: 77396505 United States 01/15/2020 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't know about that. My understanding, was any business that displayed the state approved "No Concealed Weapons" sign, would make it a crime to carry one inside. I live in Missouri now. That state passed concealed weapons carry, without a permit just a couple of years ago, following what Kansas did. But you can still get a permit if you want to. I've not heard of any of the craziness that the liberal media said would happen for states that did this. My understanding was any such place had to get a permit from the state and have a plan of security. K-State had a kerfuffle over this and they were arguing with the state over the law after Constitutional Carry passed. |
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Angel of Death
User ID: 78343908 01/16/2020 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does Kansas have laws for No Gun signs? Quoting: Dodah No, No Gun signs do not have the force of law. This is what is was taught in my ccw course. 1st offense $25 fine 2nd offense $50 fine 3rd offense $100 fine 4th offense class b misdemeanor. Each offense falls off on 1yr from the date of the offense Also in KS if you read the fine print of the law which they give you a copy with your license and because it was vital to my old job, for a sign to be legal it has to be a specific type of sign and that type of sign must be posted at EVERY external entrance |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76769141 United States 01/16/2020 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats the scariest shit ive heard in years.since when do a bunch of loser state reps get hauled around in a bus? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15622945 Most wouldnt even qualify as my personal lawyer. That message bringd chills to me. Bigger question is why the SEPARATE briefings????? And why KANSAS? WTF is wrong with Kansas, asshole? There's a lot of muzzzzz here. In Wichita. |
TrustNoOneKS
User ID: 76946759 United States 01/16/2020 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have lived here for most of my life and work for the media. I don’t think it’s a big deal. Probably related to cybersecurity like they said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17634463 It may be nothing, it's just the method they used to do it that strikes weird. The Statehouse has lots of room for private meetings. Why take them off grounds to the closest National Guard facility there in Topeka via bus with no press/aides in tow? Cybersecurity in general isn't something that needs a large cloak of secrecy to it unless something is directly happening. I can't remember the last time it came up in legislation at the state level. Could be they gave them a packet of material and said "this is the cover story, let me talk about why you are really here." If there aren't any leaks as to what was going on by this time next week I'll dismiss it. That gives enough time for representatives to spill the beans to their mistresses/paramours/SO's and for them to panic and spread the word through the grapevine. They didn't want the methods used for subverting the cyber threats to be divulged to the public and the media. I'm pretty sure that it was done the way they did it to get around the open meeting laws in the state. DHS briefs Kansas lawmakers on business, agriculture threats "Emler said in a letter Tuesday to the Kansas House speaker that the briefings should be given in closed party caucuses, which are allowed under the state’s open meetings law. . . . Failure to conduct the meeting in a closed session would reduce the efficacy of the suggested best practices." [link to www.ksn.com (secure)] I really think everyone is just overreacting to a big nothing here. I Want To Believe |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/16/2020 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Brown Chicken Brown Cow There's a lot of muzzzzz here. In Wichita. Bullshit! I don't know what part of town YOU frequent, but I rarely see any women in hijabs... and the ones I do see are usually Black and do not appear to be of ME origin. Lots of men wearing beards, but I've worn one myself for decades so that's certainly no indicator; and I travel through neighborhoods of all income levels on a regular basis so I have a fairly good concept of my city's cultural breakup. The demographics here in Wichita are much heavier in Hispanic representations than the obviously Muslim. If you have to lie just to post on a thread, you shouldn't even bother. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 01/16/2020 10:12 AM |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/16/2020 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have lived here for most of my life and work for the media. I don’t think it’s a big deal. Probably related to cybersecurity like they said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17634463 It may be nothing, it's just the method they used to do it that strikes weird. The Statehouse has lots of room for private meetings. Why take them off grounds to the closest National Guard facility there in Topeka via bus with no press/aides in tow? Cybersecurity in general isn't something that needs a large cloak of secrecy to it unless something is directly happening. I can't remember the last time it came up in legislation at the state level. Could be they gave them a packet of material and said "this is the cover story, let me talk about why you are really here." If there aren't any leaks as to what was going on by this time next week I'll dismiss it. That gives enough time for representatives to spill the beans to their mistresses/paramours/SO's and for them to panic and spread the word through the grapevine. They didn't want the methods used for subverting the cyber threats to be divulged to the public and the media. I'm pretty sure that it was done the way they did it to get around the open meeting laws in the state. DHS briefs Kansas lawmakers on business, agriculture threats "Emler said in a letter Tuesday to the Kansas House speaker that the briefings should be given in closed party caucuses, which are allowed under the state’s open meetings law. . . . Failure to conduct the meeting in a closed session would reduce the efficacy of the suggested best practices." [link to www.ksn.com (secure)] I really think everyone is just overreacting to a big nothing here. It's GOOD to see you posting! I still remember that fun thread you had several years ago about those big storage containers at the W. Kellogg WalMart store! You were quite the detective! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19893111 United States 01/16/2020 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have lived here for most of my life and work for the media. I don’t think it’s a big deal. Probably related to cybersecurity like they said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17634463 It may be nothing, it's just the method they used to do it that strikes weird. The Statehouse has lots of room for private meetings. Why take them off grounds to the closest National Guard facility there in Topeka via bus with no press/aides in tow? Cybersecurity in general isn't something that needs a large cloak of secrecy to it unless something is directly happening. I can't remember the last time it came up in legislation at the state level. Could be they gave them a packet of material and said "this is the cover story, let me talk about why you are really here." If there aren't any leaks as to what was going on by this time next week I'll dismiss it. That gives enough time for representatives to spill the beans to their mistresses/paramours/SO's and for them to panic and spread the word through the grapevine. They didn't want the methods used for subverting the cyber threats to be divulged to the public and the media. I'm pretty sure that it was done the way they did it to get around the open meeting laws in the state. DHS briefs Kansas lawmakers on business, agriculture threats "Emler said in a letter Tuesday to the Kansas House speaker that the briefings should be given in closed party caucuses, which are allowed under the state’s open meetings law. . . . Failure to conduct the meeting in a closed session would reduce the efficacy of the suggested best practices." [link to www.ksn.com (secure)] I really think everyone is just overreacting to a big nothing here. Nothing to see here. Perfectly normal. "Routine" You should really change your handle. |
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redhed6971
User ID: 72089733 United States 01/16/2020 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're getting ready to implement Soros-Bloomberg gun confiscation agenda like in VA. Quoting: XeroGravity Kansas is a concealed carry state, you don't even need a permit to carry concealed. Missouri is the same way. No VA bull$h1t in Kansas or Missouri. Staunch conservative territory here. Wrong I live in WICHITA and Kansas is an open carry state and a concealed carry state with permit only. I know my friends arenLEO. And my state rep What do you mean wrong??? I worked for Topeka PD when they passed it. Concealed carry NO LONGER needs a CCW, and hasn't required a CCW to carry since July 2015. Here's one of many links you can read for yourself. [link to www.gunstocarry.com (secure)] Yes your correct I updated my response. I was in Great Britain in 2015 when it actually passed and never went back to see if it did. “Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.” "Hello, I need a replacement filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro." “You actually slaughter each other over affairs of the spirit.” Da’an Earth-Final Conflict |