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Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 Cor 3:16-4:5 Quoting: Photine 75740406 the veil is removed in Christ. whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. the Lord is the Spirit. we preach Jesus Christ as Lord, Christ is the Holy Spirit. The Lord. JW cult preaches another Christ, and another Spirit. Just like every other cult. Jesus is God’s son. Holy Spirit isn’t called Jesus. It doesn’t have a name. Blah blah blah... Blatant denial of Scripture.. 2 Cor 3:16-4:5 the veil is removed in Christ. whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. the Lord is the Spirit. we preach Jesus Christ as Lord, You believe in a second Lord, non-Jesus spirit. Wonder who that is... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799160 United States 01/17/2020 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799160 True, because He is so great and Holy, we are only able to understand Him through Jesus. Amen. Okay, seems like we're making progress. Now just ditch the idea of a "third person" "non-Jesus" Spirit and you'll be set. I can't ditch Jesus Jesus is not the Father. You've ditched the Father, by taking hold of this "Jesus is the Father" false teaching. Jesus is God's Son... the Word of God. He's not the Father. He was with the Father in the beginning, from everlasting, Jesus has never been ALONE. Jesus is not the Father? what about this: I and my Father are one |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 01/17/2020 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “For all things I have the strength through the one who gives me power.”—PHIL. 4:13. Quoting: DGN 1-2. (a) What helps us to go on from day to day? Explain. (b) What will we consider in this article? “WHEN I think about the trial I have gone through, I know that I could not have faced it on my own.” Have you ever said something like that? Many of us have. Perhaps you said it after reflecting on how you were able to cope with a serious illness or the death of a loved one. Looking back, you feel that you were able to go on from day to day only because Jehovah’s holy spirit provided you with “power beyond what is normal.”—2 Cor. 4:7-9. 2 We also rely on holy spirit to deal with the influence of this wicked world. (1 John 5:19) In addition, we have to struggle against “wicked spirit forces.” (Eph. 6:12) With all these pressures in mind, we will consider two ways in which holy spirit helps us. Then we will discuss what we can do to benefit fully from holy spirit. you need to stop this... DGn and teach yourself from the Urantia Book. and Jehovah is a planet... AGAIN. The FATHER has no name. Except Father or first Source. :Love to you 2: Jesus said God has a name in the Lord’s Prayer. He said Our Father who is in heaven hollowed be thy NAME. Everyone and everything has a name. God has one also. |
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Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Photine 75740406 Okay, seems like we're making progress. Now just ditch the idea of a "third person" "non-Jesus" Spirit and you'll be set. I can't ditch Jesus Jesus is not the Father. You've ditched the Father, by taking hold of this "Jesus is the Father" false teaching. Jesus is God's Son... the Word of God. He's not the Father. He was with the Father in the beginning, from everlasting, Jesus has never been ALONE. Jesus is not the Father? what about this: I and my Father are one Here we go again... Jesus was not saying He is the Father. He is one with, united with, the Father. JUST LIKE Adam and Eve are ONE, yet DISTINCT. But will you ever learn? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 01/17/2020 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 Cor 3:16-4:5 Quoting: Photine 75740406 the veil is removed in Christ. whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. the Lord is the Spirit. we preach Jesus Christ as Lord, Christ is the Holy Spirit. The Lord. JW cult preaches another Christ, and another Spirit. Just like every other cult. That's right Jesus is God's only begotten son, the holy spirit is Jehovah's active force. No, cultists, the Holy Spirit is Jesus. Not an "active force". Ezekiel 37:14 I will put My Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD. 1 Cor 15:45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. ^ "My Spirit" in Ez 37:14 is the PERSON OF JESUS, 1 Cor 15:45 1 Jn 2:27 But you have received the Holy Spirit, and He lives within you, John 15:4 Live in me. Make your home in me just as I do in you. John 15:6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. Jesus is a spirit because he is in heaven. That doesn’t make him the Holy Spirit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 01/17/2020 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you need to stop this... DGn and teach yourself from the Urantia Book. and Jehovah is a planet... AGAIN. The FATHER has no name. Except Father or first Source baloney Psalms 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. Isaiah 26:4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength: craprantia book is channeled, new-age junk. and Jehovah is NOT the name of any freaking planet. True |
Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 Cor 3:16-4:5 Quoting: Photine 75740406 the veil is removed in Christ. whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. the Lord is the Spirit. we preach Jesus Christ as Lord, Christ is the Holy Spirit. The Lord. JW cult preaches another Christ, and another Spirit. Just like every other cult. That's right Jesus is God's only begotten son, the holy spirit is Jehovah's active force. No, cultists, the Holy Spirit is Jesus. Not an "active force". Ezekiel 37:14 I will put My Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD. 1 Cor 15:45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. ^ "My Spirit" in Ez 37:14 is the PERSON OF JESUS, 1 Cor 15:45 1 Jn 2:27 But you have received the Holy Spirit, and He lives within you, John 15:4 Live in me. Make your home in me just as I do in you. John 15:6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. Jesus is a spirit because he is in heaven. That doesn’t make him the Holy Spirit. Mind-numbing gibberish. Ezekiel 37:14 I will put My Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD. 1 Cor 15:45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. ^ "My Spirit" in Ez 37:14 is the PERSON OF JESUS, 1 Cor 15:45 Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Just accept that you're wrong. It's really what it comes to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 01/17/2020 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Photine 75740406 No, cultists, the Holy Spirit is Jesus. Not an "active force". Ezekiel 37:14 I will put My Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD. 1 Cor 15:45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. ^ "My Spirit" in Ez 37:14 is the PERSON OF JESUS, 1 Cor 15:45 1 Jn 2:27 But you have received the Holy Spirit, and He lives within you, John 15:4 Live in me. Make your home in me just as I do in you. John 15:6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. And Jesus talks to us through Holy Spirit, because He is God. God talks to us through Jesus (the Holy Spirit). Jn 16:25 All this I have said to you in veiled language: but the time is coming when I will no longer say things in veiled language but will give you knowledge of the Father clearly. 1 Tim 4:1 The Holy Spirit clearly says that in the last days some people will leave the faith. They will follow spirits that will fool them. They will believe things that demons will teach them. Jesus = God. The Bible says he is God’s only begotten son. That means he was fathered. Jesus was created. The only one created directly by God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799160 United States 01/17/2020 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is not the Father. You've ditched the Father, by taking hold of this "Jesus is the Father" false teaching. Jesus is God's Son... the Word of God. He's not the Father. He was with the Father in the beginning, from everlasting, Jesus has never been ALONE. Jesus is not the Father? what about this: I and my Father are one Here we go again... Jesus was not saying He is the Father. He is one with, united with, the Father. JUST LIKE Adam and Eve are ONE, yet DISTINCT. But will you ever learn? United States of America, but Jesus and His Father are ONE. See the difference? |
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Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Photine 75740406 Jesus is not the Father. You've ditched the Father, by taking hold of this "Jesus is the Father" false teaching. Jesus is God's Son... the Word of God. He's not the Father. He was with the Father in the beginning, from everlasting, Jesus has never been ALONE. Jesus is not the Father? what about this: I and my Father are one Here we go again... Jesus was not saying He is the Father. He is one with, united with, the Father. JUST LIKE Adam and Eve are ONE, yet DISTINCT. But will you ever learn? United States of America, but Jesus and His Father are ONE. See the difference? Is Adam the same PERSON as Eve? Or are they DISTINCT? According to your logic, they are the same person. Lol! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 01/17/2020 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ITS POINTLESS TO GO BACK AND FORTH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72407249 JUST AS THE SPIRIT OF THE ANTICHRIST HAS BEEN HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING SO HAS THE HOLY SPIRIT YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW THROUGH HUMAN PERCEPTION THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL REMEMBER THE THINGS YOU SAY NO ITS NOT A PERSON ITS A SPIRIT AND ITS MUCH OLDER THAN JESUS JESUS WOULD HAVE TO DIE TO BECOME SPIRIT HES ALIVE WITH THE FATHER Holy Spirit is older than God? Really? I DIDNT SAY THAT I SAID ITS OLDER THAN JESUS HOW MANY TIMES DID JESUS SAY HES GODS SON? Jesus said: I and my Father are ONE Jesus said he wants his followers to be one with God also. Doesn’t mean we are God. John 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. Being one means being in agreement |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799160 United States 01/17/2020 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799160 Jesus is not the Father? what about this: I and my Father are one Here we go again... Jesus was not saying He is the Father. He is one with, united with, the Father. JUST LIKE Adam and Eve are ONE, yet DISTINCT. But will you ever learn? United States of America, but Jesus and His Father are ONE. See the difference? Is Adam the same PERSON as Eve? Or are they DISTINCT? According to your logic, they are the same person. Lol! Are you and your boyfriend same people? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799160 United States 01/17/2020 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I DIDNT SAY THAT I SAID ITS OLDER THAN JESUS HOW MANY TIMES DID JESUS SAY HES GODS SON? Jesus said: I and my Father are ONE Jesus said he wants his followers to be one with God also. Doesn’t mean we are God. John 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. Being one means being in agreement Amen |
Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Photine 75740406 Here we go again... Jesus was not saying He is the Father. He is one with, united with, the Father. JUST LIKE Adam and Eve are ONE, yet DISTINCT. But will you ever learn? United States of America, but Jesus and His Father are ONE. See the difference? Is Adam the same PERSON as Eve? Or are they DISTINCT? According to your logic, they are the same person. Lol! Are you and your boyfriend same people? You are refusing instruction. I'm sorry you were breastfed "Jesus is Father Son and HS" 'Oneness' doctrine from birth but it's really very wrong and I know you think it's okay to look stupid if you're a believer but you seriously do look VERY stupid repeating "I and the father are one" trying to convince people that it means Jesus is the Father. You're brain dead. You need to repent of YOUR heresy. YOU have been shown by now irrefutable Scriptures by both me and TLS that disprove your lame, false beliefs. Stop accusing others and take the thingy out of your eye. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 01/17/2020 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 Cor 3:16-4:5 Quoting: Photine 75740406 the veil is removed in Christ. whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. the Lord is the Spirit. we preach Jesus Christ as Lord, Christ is the Holy Spirit. The Lord. JW cult preaches another Christ, and another Spirit. Just like every other cult. Jesus is God’s son. Holy Spirit isn’t called Jesus. It doesn’t have a name. Blah blah blah... Blatant denial of Scripture.. 2 Cor 3:16-4:5 the veil is removed in Christ. whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. the Lord is the Spirit. we preach Jesus Christ as Lord, You believe in a second Lord, non-Jesus spirit. Wonder who that is... I believe the Bible when it says Jesus is God’s only begotten son. Begotten means created. John 3:16 King James Version (KJV) 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 01/17/2020 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is not the Father. You've ditched the Father, by taking hold of this "Jesus is the Father" false teaching. Jesus is God's Son... the Word of God. He's not the Father. He was with the Father in the beginning, from everlasting, Jesus has never been ALONE. Jesus is not the Father? what about this: I and my Father are one Here we go again... Jesus was not saying He is the Father. He is one with, united with, the Father. JUST LIKE Adam and Eve are ONE, yet DISTINCT. But will you ever learn? True. Husband and wives are one but that doesn’t make them the same person. |
Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 Cor 3:16-4:5 Quoting: Photine 75740406 the veil is removed in Christ. whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. the Lord is the Spirit. we preach Jesus Christ as Lord, Christ is the Holy Spirit. The Lord. JW cult preaches another Christ, and another Spirit. Just like every other cult. Jesus is God’s son. Holy Spirit isn’t called Jesus. It doesn’t have a name. Blah blah blah... Blatant denial of Scripture.. 2 Cor 3:16-4:5 the veil is removed in Christ. whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. the Lord is the Spirit. we preach Jesus Christ as Lord, You believe in a second Lord, non-Jesus spirit. Wonder who that is... I believe the Bible when it says Jesus is God’s only begotten son. Begotten means created. More blah blah. Ezekiel 37:14 I will put My Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD. 1 Cor 15:45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. Is God's SPIRIT a CREATED THING? Or is He a PERSON (Jesus)? Are you sure you believe the Bible? xD |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799160 United States 01/17/2020 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799160 United States of America, but Jesus and His Father are ONE. See the difference? Is Adam the same PERSON as Eve? Or are they DISTINCT? According to your logic, they are the same person. Lol! Are you and your boyfriend same people? You are refusing instruction. I'm sorry you were breastfed "Jesus is Father Son and HS" 'Oneness' doctrine from birth but it's really very wrong and I know you think it's okay to look stupid if you're a believer but you seriously do look VERY stupid repeating "I and the father are one" trying to convince people that it means Jesus is the Father. You're brain dead. You need to repent of YOUR heresy. YOU have been shown by now irrefutable Scriptures by both me and TLS that disprove your lame, false beliefs. Stop accusing others and take the thingy out of your eye. Adam and Ever are two different human beings. Eve was sent by God to Adam as helper. Your example has nothing to do with topic. |
Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Adam and Ever are two different human beings. Eve was sent by God to Adam as helper. Your example has nothing to do with topic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799160 More blah blah. My example has EVERYTHING to do with it. God didn't send eve.. she came from Adam. Like Jesus comes from GOD. and they are ONE but DISTINCT persons. God and His Spirit are ETERNAL. IF you refuse instruction, SURELY you will be destroyed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799160 United States 01/17/2020 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Adam and Ever are two different human beings. Eve was sent by God to Adam as helper. Your example has nothing to do with topic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799160 More blah blah. My example has EVERYTHING to do with it. God didn't send eve.. she came from Adam. Like Jesus comes from GOD. and they are ONE but DISTINCT persons. God and His Spirit are ETERNAL. IF you refuse instruction, SURELY you will be destroyed. You are going to trash this thread 2. ehh |
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(OP) User ID: 76673672 United States 01/17/2020 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4. According to 2 Corinthians 12:7b-9, what struggle did Paul have? 4 Read 2 Corinthians 12:7b-9. In this passage, what did Paul mean when he said that he struggled with “a thorn in the flesh”? If you had a thorn stuck in your body, you would be in a lot of pain. So Paul was saying that he faced a painful personal trial of some sort. He called this trial “an angel of Satan” that kept “slapping” (“beating,” ftn.) him. Satan or his demon angels may not directly have caused Paul’s trials, as if driving a thorn into his flesh. But when those wicked spirits noticed the “thorn,” they may have been eager to push it in deeper, so to speak, to increase Paul’s pain. What did Paul do? |
Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Adam and Ever are two different human beings. Eve was sent by God to Adam as helper. Your example has nothing to do with topic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799160 More blah blah. My example has EVERYTHING to do with it. God didn't send eve.. she came from Adam. Like Jesus comes from GOD. and they are ONE but DISTINCT persons. God and His Spirit are ETERNAL. IF you refuse instruction, SURELY you will be destroyed. You are going to trash this thread 2. ehh YOU are the thread trasher, you're just delusional, blind, and stupid, and think you're on a Holy Crusade with your Jesus superman God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799160 United States 01/17/2020 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Adam and Ever are two different human beings. Eve was sent by God to Adam as helper. Your example has nothing to do with topic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799160 More blah blah. My example has EVERYTHING to do with it. God didn't send eve.. she came from Adam. Like Jesus comes from GOD. and they are ONE but DISTINCT persons. God and His Spirit are ETERNAL. IF you refuse instruction, SURELY you will be destroyed. You are going to trash this thread 2. ehh YOU are the thread trasher, you're just delusional, blind, and stupid, and think you're on a Holy Crusade with your Jesus superman God. You are going to hell for calling me stupid. Did you know that? I'm not going to hurt or kill anyone, I love everyone. You are just making things up and insulting me. It's a sign of weakness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72407249 United States 01/17/2020 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all ^THATS THE GOAL JESUS WAS GODS VOICE The angel told her that God had made her pregnant through a miracle ^SO WE TAKING THIS OUT THE BIBLE AS WELL? I MEAN SINCE GOD AND JESUS ARE THE SAME ACCORDING TO YOU that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm, 'YOU ARE MY SON; TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU.' and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, "You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased." ^DONT FLIRT WITH DISASTER 20After He had said this, He showed them His hands and His side. The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. 21Again Jesus said to them, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so also I am sending you.” 22When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.… He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee: ‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’ ^SO JESUS DIED FOR ME? FUNNY ACCORDING TO THIS HES ALIVE "But now I am going to Him who sent Me; and none of you asks Me, 'Where are You going?' Some of His disciples then said to one another, "What is this thing He is telling us, 'A little while, and you will not see Me; and again a little while, and you will see Me'; and, 'because I go to the Father'?" ^LET ME TELL YOU GOD AND JESUS ARE THE SAME HUH? DID HE RETURN TO HIMSELF LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF A CELL SPLITTING? |
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Photine User ID: 75740406 Canada 01/17/2020 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Photine 75740406 More blah blah. My example has EVERYTHING to do with it. God didn't send eve.. she came from Adam. Like Jesus comes from GOD. and they are ONE but DISTINCT persons. God and His Spirit are ETERNAL. IF you refuse instruction, SURELY you will be destroyed. You are going to trash this thread 2. ehh YOU are the thread trasher, you're just delusional, blind, and stupid, and think you're on a Holy Crusade with your Jesus superman God. You are going to hell for calling me stupid. Did you know that? I'm not going to hurt or kill anyone, I love everyone. You are just making things up and insulting me. It's a sign of weakness. No I'm not going to hell for calling a stupid, false, imposter in sheep's clothing, stupid. You are a ZOMBIE walking around. Not even alive. A BEAST. You shouldn't TRASH threads and ACCUSE PEOPLE of terrible things as if in a manic psychotic rampage. Your three-headed super-Jesus god is an idol and you are the stupidest, and most annoying creature I've seen on here. Disgusting. |