1200 French Doctors Resign in Protest - Europeanized "health" care fans, take note | |
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(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/16/2020 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Medical staff have accused the government of failing to engage in negotiations over public hospital services and what they say are serious shortfalls in funding. In an open letter to French Minister of Health Agnès Buzyn, the resigning doctors on Tuesday criticized the budget laid out for public hospitals in 2020 as “too little, too partial, too spread out over time.” “The deterioration of the working conditions of professionals is such that it calls into question the quality of care and threatens the safety of patients,” the doctors added. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/16/2020 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In any heavily unionized and state-run system, there will be skirmishes related more to pay and benefits than to actual patient care. this has both. Patients beware.... my introduction to French hospital medicine came from Howard Storm's first-person account of his near-death experience in a French hospital. it was August - everyone in France is off duty then.... Last Edited by beeches on 01/16/2020 07:23 AM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/16/2020 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hope that was a nice do speak German, not French Last Edited by beeches on 01/16/2020 07:28 AM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States 01/16/2020 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wise and benevolent government minions, (who of course have far superior intellect than the population), should ALWAYS be in charge of the medical system! They know best! Now, take your vaccines... Last Edited by Trained Noticer on 01/16/2020 07:49 AM For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
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(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/16/2020 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The deteriating conditions are due to the massive influx of the Islam. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62939630 It has overwhelmed the system and now the Real French people can't get treatment. Same thing is happening here in Afghanistan North. I agree, the invasion is adding chaos to an already unsteady system Howard Storm's experience of being left to rot over an August weekend with life-threatening peritonitis was in the 1980s he returned to the United States when finally able to be flown half-dead. Was hospitalized here for a long time. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/16/2020 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wise and benevolent government minions, Quoting: Trained Noticer (who of course have far superior intellect than the population), should ALWAYS be in charge of the medical system! They know best! Now, take your vaccines... they can't even keep houses safe from vandals in a protected city district, those minions are everywhere government has a clawhold on us. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States 01/16/2020 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The deteriating conditions are due to the massive influx of the Islam. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62939630 It has overwhelmed the system and now the Real French people can't get treatment. Same thing is happening here in Afghanistan North. I believe that^^^^^^^^ Also: Medical staff have accused the government of failing to engage in negotiations over public hospital services and what they say are serious shortfalls in funding. What a convoluted way of saying: "The government is cutting our pay and increasing our hours and reducing resources. Fuck you." For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
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(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/16/2020 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The deteriating conditions are due to the massive influx of the Islam. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62939630 It has overwhelmed the system and now the Real French people can't get treatment. Same thing is happening here in Afghanistan North. I believe that^^^^^^^^ Also: Medical staff have accused the government of failing to engage in negotiations over public hospital services and what they say are serious shortfalls in funding. What a convoluted way of saying: "The government is cutting our pay and increasing our hours and reducing resources. Fuck you." that looks suspiciously like a merry-go-round! Safety Sally will get you! Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62939630 Canada 01/16/2020 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government of France allowed and encouraged their nation to be flooded with hundreds of thousands of third world immigrants who abuse the system because they never had treatment like this before. It strips the funds like anything. Yes there is a shortfall of funding because the demand has skyrocketed. Canada (Afghanistan North) is going through the same thing here. And some civil doctors don't want the hassle of treating these 'new Canadians' and are retiring or moving to the US. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78136078 United States 01/16/2020 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government of France allowed and encouraged their nation to be flooded with hundreds of thousands of third world immigrants who abuse the system because they never had treatment like this before. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62939630 It strips the funds like anything. Yes there is a shortfall of funding because the demand has skyrocketed. Canada (Afghanistan North) is going through the same thing here. And some civil doctors don't want the hassle of treating these 'new Canadians' and are retiring or moving to the US. if you don't like immigrants then help subsidize dictators and despots. They don't like immigrants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78132959 United States 01/16/2020 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | / / / "worked as a nurse in Europe and here.... no system is better than wise self-care. I would take ours any day, any time, because we have the freedom to choose to participate or not." quote beeches/OP _____________ i'm tellin ya w/love,correcting you the same- WHEN the time comes,and you are of "the age" THEY DEMAND, YOU ARE SLAMMED into medicare,whether YOU want it or not, and most will lose their private form of insurance unless financially they can afford it along w/the mandatory deductions for medicare and the bs supplemental deals. and having financial woes due to this crap DOES NOT MEAN we were stupid or did not plan. WE can find practices accepting medicaid/medicare BUT THEY cannot accept new patients and some will not even accept cash anymore as well. do we also have a shortage ? Even associations of physicians assistants and nurse practitioners are unable to accept newbies and yes we go online the same ,willing to travel running search. we did not ask for this or even look forward to medicare as we already knew all about it--it's total garbage and another mandatory government RIP OFF. One thing truly noted in our USA --where the hell did our own American residents/interns/physicians GO ??? |
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(OP) User ID: 77354011 United States 01/16/2020 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | / Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78132959 / / "worked as a nurse in Europe and here.... no system is better than wise self-care. I would take ours any day, any time, because we have the freedom to choose to participate or not." quote beeches/OP _____________ i'm tellin ya w/love,correcting you the same- WHEN the time comes,and you are of "the age" THEY DEMAND, YOU ARE SLAMMED into medicare,whether YOU want it or not, and most will lose their private form of insurance unless financially they can afford it along w/the mandatory deductions for medicare and the bs supplemental deals. and having financial woes due to this crap DOES NOT MEAN we were stupid or did not plan. WE can find practices accepting medicaid/medicare BUT THEY cannot accept new patients and some will not even accept cash anymore as well. do we also have a shortage ? Even associations of physicians assistants and nurse practitioners are unable to accept newbies and yes we go online the same ,willing to travel running search. we did not ask for this or even look forward to medicare as we already knew all about it--it's total garbage and another mandatory government RIP OFF. One thing truly noted in our USA --where the hell did our own American residents/interns/physicians GO ??? I am well aware of Medicare and its rules, study each year's Medicare and You book like it was a GLP thread! For example: for homecare after a rehab stay, should I let Medicare rent/buy the bed at no cost to me, or should I say fuck it and buy what I want from online or a local medical supply store? should I go on dialysis at a center, do hemodialysis at home, learn peritoneal dialysis and do it at night or continuously during the day? or say fuck it and go on palliative care, or hospice. there is plenty of choice there. Yes, private plans in old age can be better. Medicare is something you can use to your own ends, if you know how. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States 01/16/2020 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | / Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78132959 / / "worked as a nurse in Europe and here.... no system is better than wise self-care. I would take ours any day, any time, because we have the freedom to choose to participate or not." quote beeches/OP _____________ i'm tellin ya w/love,correcting you the same- WHEN the time comes,and you are of "the age" THEY DEMAND, YOU ARE SLAMMED into medicare,whether YOU want it or not, and most will lose their private form of insurance unless financially they can afford it along w/the mandatory deductions for medicare and the bs supplemental deals. and having financial woes due to this crap DOES NOT MEAN we were stupid or did not plan. WE can find practices accepting medicaid/medicare BUT THEY cannot accept new patients and some will not even accept cash anymore as well. do we also have a shortage ? Even associations of physicians assistants and nurse practitioners are unable to accept newbies and yes we go online the same ,willing to travel running search. we did not ask for this or even look forward to medicare as we already knew all about it--it's total garbage and another mandatory government RIP OFF. One thing truly noted in our USA --where the hell did our own American residents/interns/physicians GO ??? I am well aware of Medicare and its rules, study each year's Medicare and You book like it was a GLP thread! For example: for homecare after a rehab stay, should I let Medicare rent/buy the bed at no cost to me, or should I say fuck it and buy what I want from online or a local medical supply store? should I go on dialysis at a center, do hemodialysis at home, learn peritoneal dialysis and do it at night or continuously during the day? or say fuck it and go on palliative care, or hospice. there is plenty of choice there. Yes, private plans in old age can be better. Medicare is something you can use to your own ends, if you know how. Or: Should I get good ole store bought pickles, Or learn to love Aunt Bee's kerosene cucumbers? For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
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