PLEASE WATCH THE RHETORIC REGARDING VA!!!

In other words;

Shut up and do what you're told.

:hitler:

Best not to discuss your plans to the other side "IF" this does kick off (not saying it will). I keep a tally of people who I feel might be a good person to have around if this goes full on nuts. also keep track of people to not have around me.

Don't let words get you too hot under the collar Coastie. I appreciate your appeal for dialog. I too am under the Oath. I was administered it during a run for office, not during service, so thank you for yours.

I would like to add food for thought in the spirit of open dialog. I have nearly completed law school and am going to be taking the Bar soon. Much--no, MOST of what I've learned is frightening. Our legal system is so broken that I'm wondering if I've wasted my time and money by becoming indoctrinated into it.

That's not to say it's utterly useless or that there's no way to get a just ruling. Rather, the bad rulings seem to far outweigh the good. Our prisons are OVERLOADED with innocent people who confessed to crimes they didn't commit because federal prosecutors have a 99% success rate and their alternative was a prison sentence ten times longer than the plea deal, or death.

Let'see if I can rephrase that better. Here's how our criminal system works:
1) People are arrested by the feds for crimes they didn't commit,
2) and then offered a 1 or 2 year prison sentence as a plea deal for a crime that carries 20 or 30 or more years in jail.
3) They can't afford a lawyer so the court appoints them one.
4) The shitty court appointed lawyer says "the Feds usually win. The problem is that even if you're innocent, they'll manipulate the evidence during the preliminary hearings so the jury will never have the opportunity to learn that you're innocent. Take the deal. You'll serve ten months at most and then you'll be out on parole for 3 or 4 years. You can get on with your life."
5) The poor person takes the deal, even though they're innocent, because they don't want to risk spending the rest of their life in jail.
6) No one told them there are a million ways to violate parole and go back to jail.
7) They end up in jail on a longer term for violating parole for a crime they never committed.

Anyone who tells you our jails aren't full of innocent people is lying. They are filled to the BRIM with innocents who become indoctrinated into violent gangs while they were there. And no one wants to let them out of jail because they think they're lifetime criminals now (and some might be).

And then, there's the 65% of the guilty people there who committed victimless crimes...

So, we have the highest prison population in the world. And I don't see anyone asking why, or comparing this to other tyrannical regimes where mass incarceration lead to mass death and destruction.

How are we not seeing this? How??? They are incarcerating us and killing us (because people die in jail) at a level that would make Mao Zedong proud!

Right now, more than 2.3 MILLION Americans are incarcerated, most of them minorities or females, and most for victimless crimes, inability to pay court required fees and fines, or for no crime at all.

That's damn near 1% of our population, meaning that everyone knows someone who is affected by this, or is affected themselves.

Virginia is now in the process of adding even more statutes to their books that will be used to incarcerate even more Americans who would have been considered law abiding citizens the year before but will now be considered criminals.

And civil dialog is what got us here. From Jim Crow laws to the drug war to mandatory minimum sentences to the criminalizing of actions that are merely distasteful ("hate speech," etc.) we have more criminal statutes than any other nation, and we use them to feed a giant prison slave labor system that is destroying our nation.

Destroying it because:
1) children grow up without parents,
2) people become so damaged they can no longer function in society, and
3) our taxes are robbed for the purposes of creating and feeding this problem instead of providing solutions.

So you recommend dialog. I'M still vested in dialog myself. I don't want to die in a war. I won't be around to enjoy the freedom I fought for and possibly my offspring won't be either. So, I'm REALLY, REALLY vested in a peaceful solution. I want it more than anything. I don't want to die in a war.

What's the solution? What dialog do we try that we haven't tried and failed at already? How do we overcome our rigged political system? How do we get our loved ones out of the gulags? How do we stop the government from taking everything we have including our children if we speak out in dissent over vaccines, or our property if we speak out against unjust taxation? What specifically can we do or say?

chum, i want it to happen now, in VA, because there's a good chance of a major win so *I* don't have to do it later in my own State at much worse odds.

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Yeah, liberals have weaponized victim game. Do not give em any ammo. Best thing would be play their game, get as many blacks, asians, gays, women, all minorities to match the white men in protests at the capitol. Make it a rule at protests the white men do not speak only the minorities. This seems super shitty but trust me, if this happened, the media would avoid this shit like the plague.

Last Edited by TheDarknessComes on 01/17/2020 03:08 PM

I agree with you for the most part, but most are answering his threats of violent means of confiscation with violent means of defense. He has threatened each and every gun owning Virginian and law enforcement official (who swore the same oath as himself) with an armed response from the Nat'l Guard if they resist enforcing his own treasonous law.

Americans not just Virginians have a stake in this. Most are stating facts and the governor takes them as threats. This cannot be helped till he learns to shut his pie-hole.

Rights are given to us by GOD and not by governor blackface.

Here is a past threat/fact from one of our founding fathers.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Thomas Jefferson

You're not only an instigator, you're also a chicken sh*t. If you were HALF as f*cking passionate about "the cause" as you proclaim to be, you'd get your fat ass up off of your momma's couch & march your GI Joe-wannabe-ass up there & stand shoulder-to-shoulder with fellow patriots. Instead, you think you're a f*cking master sharpshooter playing g*d-damn fortnite 24-7 but at least you're willing to admit you'd rather have SOMEONE ELSE get their hands dirty than (heaven forbid) you risk getting a callus on those soft, momma's-boy hands of yours.

Bump

“....when good men do nothing evil abounds”

In the end they want to throw everyone in a gulag or wack em with bio weapons like 95% of the worlds population bye bye at this point who cares about being politically correct tptb sure as hell don't wake up and smell the Ebola

like OP, you can't handle the truth, either.

Yes, I'd rather have somebody else do it.
There's 50,000 other people that have already volunteered
and are in the right time and place.

As for my hands, I'm quite capable of shooting a pumpkin
at 500 yards but no, I'd really rather not if I can
avoid it.

and I actually was a master sharpshooter,
but my eyes ain't so good anymore.

plus I have no vested interest.

I only need the US to last 20 more years,
I have no children or legacy
and I don't care much what happens
to the rest of y'all. Most of you suck.

A bit short to the point but I agree.

The Governor of Virginia has already declared war on law abiding US citizens. He has announce his full intention of the use of force. Sweet talk at this point is bullshit.

Propaganda is a long time factor in this battle. It is always a good idea not to alienate people to our cause. However, if they are already a sworn mortal enemy, speak the damn truth.

The Governor is a traitor and deserves the punishment meted out to traitors.

The only ammo that can take away your guns and ammo is literal ammo. Or you not having the spine to refresh the tree of liberty. Up to you.

So what you're saying is you're not only an instigator & a chicken-sh*t, but you're also a liar. Thanks for broadcasting that. You make my work easy.

Is there no answer to my question, or has OP already given up because of trolls?

Never Enough: New Zealand Government Pushes Even More Gun Control

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New Zealand Ban on Most Semiautomatic Weapons Takes Effect

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New Zealand Moves To Create Firearm Registry

New Zealand's government is planning to create a registry of all guns in the country and stiffen penalties on illegal gun sales and modifications. The move comes six months after a gunman killed 51 people at mosques in Christchurch.

After the Christchurch mosque shootings in 2019, legislation to restrict semi-automatic firearms and magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds, and provide an amnesty and buyback of such weapons was introduced and passed by the New Zealand parliament by 119 votes to one

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soon around your places

so you think hitting a pumpkin at 500 yards is hard?

maybe if you'd learned when you were ten years old.

You write as though you are a pimple-faced teenager who spends most of his time playing Call of Duty, and not fighting for any cause other than keeping your parents off your back and not being rejected by yet another girl. Does that about sum you up or are you bound and determined to keep regurgitating this false bravo shite you saw in some NetFlix gamer’s game or movie?

well spoken and thoughtful DIALOGUE. I see and know how the GVT works, look at CARTER page CIA agent... Sing us a song about trump or we'll ruin you, SAME with General Flynn. They are way higher on the food chain than me!!! So I see what you mean there! I had an instance that i had to go to court for and my attorney said this is what will happen, no testimony nothing . worked out before i got there!!!

the last questions are what are the million dollar questions!!

I dont have those answer. I do know complacency in politics is what got us where we are, well that, and love of money and power leading to corruption.

Veterans running for office were on FOX n Friends this am and said those runnning for office for personal gain or power are there for the wrong reasons. Couldnt agree more.

RATHER SEE TAX RETURNS OF A POLITICIAN MILLIONAIRE THAN A MILLIONAIRE TURNED POLITICIAN!!

So again i mention esprit decor: the group. you want others to sacrifice so you dont have to. Doesnt sound like any military "man" i ever knew!!

Action, hell, I bet if all the 2nd Amendment counties just stopped paying taxes to the State, tax strike, it’d get their attention.

Mk said something I disagreed with the other day yet here we are still having Dialogue!!! Mk and i see the commonality here PROPS MK!!!

Last Edited by Coastie Patriot on 01/17/2020 03:34 PM

Action, hell, I bet if all the 2nd Amendment counties just stopped paying taxes to the State, tax strike, it’d get their attention.




Starve the beast!

Last Edited by Don Of N*******t on 01/17/2020 03:39 PM

can you imbed a song for me called JUMPDAFUCKUP by COREY TAYLOR AND SOULFLY?

I cant imbed current location

I think it fits here,

ANYONE???

Roger that.

you are no longer worth my time

You are the weakest link... good bye!!

I do thank you for adding to my thread and making me add more to it and encouraging deeper thought!!

ummm.... that really depends on what you are shooting dontcha think?

Guaranteed hit first shot with any scoped rifle.
Shit guaranteed hit with any carbine
but
I bet you couldnt hit a large pumpkin at 500 yards with first shot, with a snub nosed 44 magnum revolver, or even with a 1911 .45 commander or officer.......

Or maybe one of us doesn't know wtf they are talking about?

thanks, listen to the lyrics and look them if need be. Great song, lemme know your thoughts

The only thing that matters is
Will you reach out if you can't resist? soul fly