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News articles seem to have gone back to a more grim picture of what the world is facing. Again, that same feel from March/April except with longer time horizons being projected.

I expect it will continue to get tougher for many from this point forward, emotionally, physically and spiritually.

We all need to hang on the best we can and make sure our seatbelts are fastened.
 Quoting: Guythu


Need to swap that seatbelt out for a 5 point restraining harness.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Probably need neck support and a helmet. Probably fire retardant system as well. Maybe oxygen mask too.
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Lol!
Thanks you all.
Feeling a bit down today but that made me laugh..even as morbid as it is.
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You are loved. Just keep swimming.
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BREAKING: Jet2 cancels all flights to mainland Spain
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Here we go
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I know I'm sitting in Spain, but all I've noticed is that the tourists are suspiciously absent from the pool.

I need to go read the news.
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Oooooh. You got your quiet back?
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The overall visitor chaos is down to holiday weekend levels instead of peak summer levels. So, I've got a good 30% of my peace back.
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BREAKING: Jet2 cancels all flights to mainland Spain
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Here we go
 Quoting: Pillar of Poland


I know I'm sitting in Spain, but all I've noticed is that the tourists are suspiciously absent from the pool.

I need to go read the news.
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The only thing that can mean is that there is a “Baby Ruth” in the pool.

1 karma for the first to name the movie reference (and I will deliver so long as I see your reply in the sea of posts!)
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Caddyshack!!!
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News articles seem to have gone back to a more grim picture of what the world is facing. Again, that same feel from March/April except with longer time horizons being projected.

I expect it will continue to get tougher for many from this point forward, emotionally, physically and spiritually.

We all need to hang on the best we can and make sure our seatbelts are fastened.
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You are appreciated. And yes, just keep swimming.
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I'm getting the canoe...arms are tired.
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


Just keep floating. It’s the best we can do.....

Maintenance is here. And he is regular masked up. And I blocked off Everything. So I only have two rooms to wipe down.

Stress Level Biblical....but we have Sesame Street and y’all. Could be worse.
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Global airlines have cut their recovery forecast, saying it will take until 2024 - a year longer than initially predicted - for passenger traffic to return to pre-pandemic levels.

In a report the International Air Transport Association - which has 290 member airlines - said demand for air travel has collapsed due to the slow containment of coronavirus in America and developing countries.
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Global airlines have cut their recovery forecast, saying it will take until 2024 - a year longer than initially predicted - for passenger traffic to return to pre-pandemic levels.

In a report the International Air Transport Association - which has 290 member airlines - said demand for air travel has collapsed due to the slow containment of coronavirus in America and developing countries.

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That's going to have a significant economic impact in those developed nations that had a significant footprint in the air travel industry.

In the US our postal service does not have its own fleet of planes, they depend on commercial airlines for package and mail movement. With major schedule reductions more packages have to move by truck which significantly slows delivery of anything shipped via USPS.
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Global airlines have cut their recovery forecast, saying it will take until 2024 - a year longer than initially predicted - for passenger traffic to return to pre-pandemic levels.
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It's pretty tough to know what the world is going to look like 4 years from now even without a global pandemic caused by a novel and mysterious virus.

I wonder if they'd be willing to make a dunce cap wager on that one?

chuckle
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CDC changes 7-17-2020 for healthcare return to work.... do not have confidence in this, seems based on testing supplies.... but nhl can have all the tests they want. Stoopid burns.

“Except for rare situations, a test-based strategy is no longer recommended to determine when to allow HCP to return to work.”

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California man, 54, hospitalized with COVID for 64 days, 31 days on a ventilator suffered burst lungs, sepsis, multiple organ failure and amputation of most of his fingers.

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God help us...
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CDC changes 7-17-2020 for healthcare return to work.... do not have confidence in this, seems based on testing supplies.... but nhl can have all the tests they want. Stoopid burns.

“Except for rare situations, a test-based strategy is no longer recommended to determine when to allow HCP to return to work.”

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 Quoting: CleverCreator


Basic premise of new policy is that after 15 days from symptom onset, even though you may still be shedding viral RNA it's not actually infectious viral particles.

So new rule is regardless of test results, they can return to work 20 days after symptom onset, or if asymptomatic 20 days after first positive test.
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Has anyone seen or heard from JypsieWind? She has not been on in almost a month...
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CDC changes 7-17-2020 for healthcare return to work.... do not have confidence in this, seems based on testing supplies.... but nhl can have all the tests they want. Stoopid burns.

“Except for rare situations, a test-based strategy is no longer recommended to determine when to allow HCP to return to work.”

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Basic premise of new policy is that after 15 days from symptom onset, even though you may still be shedding viral RNA it's not actually infectious viral particles.

So new rule is regardless of test results, they can return to work 20 days after symptom onset, or if asymptomatic 20 days after first positive test.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Yah. That feels like less for the folks that step in poop constantly

Versus

The circuses that are testing two to three times per person per week.....

That doesn’t make me feel comfortable.
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Has anyone seen or heard from JypsieWind? She has not been on in almost a month...
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This isn’t an easy road.

Which reminds me....

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News articles seem to have gone back to a more grim picture of what the world is facing. Again, that same feel from March/April except with longer time horizons being projected.

I expect it will continue to get tougher for many from this point forward, emotionally, physically and spiritually.

We all need to hang on the best we can and make sure our seatbelts are fastened.
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You are appreciated. And yes, just keep swimming.
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I'm getting the canoe...arms are tired.
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More scientists who say the virus will be here for a long time

Even with vaccine, ‘We will be dealing with this forever’: Virus experts Frieden, Osterholm

Frieden said expect the current living situation to last for another 8-12 months at minimum.

Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research & Policy at the University of Minnesota, said it is estimated that 7% to 9% of the total U.S. population has been infected with coronavirus, and that means the worst is yet to come. He said the best understanding in the medical field is that transmission will not slow down until 50% to 70% of the population is infected. “The pain, suffering, death and economic pain we’ve had to date — that’s 7% to 9% of the U.S. population. We’ve got a long way to go,” Osterholm said.

“Most businesses in the country will be hard-pressed to operate in a way they want to schedule when we have ‘houses on fire’ in our communities,” said Osterholm. “I understand the pain and economic suffering, but I don’t see any way we get numbers down regionally. We’ve got to stop this virus activity or there will be fear we will see these peaks, but every time it goes down, it plateaus at a higher level and just comes back again. In many communities in this country, I see no way to operate as they once did.”

In fact, both experts believe Covid-19 is here to stay.

“We will be dealing with this forever,” Osterholm said.

“Covid is here to stay,” added Frieden.

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Global airlines have cut their recovery forecast, saying it will take until 2024 - a year longer than initially predicted - for passenger traffic to return to pre-pandemic levels.
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It's pretty tough to know what the world is going to look like 4 years from now even without a global pandemic caused by a novel and mysterious virus.

I wonder if they'd be willing to make a dunce cap wager on that one?

chuckle
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afro
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Global airlines have cut their recovery forecast, saying it will take until 2024 - a year longer than initially predicted - for passenger traffic to return to pre-pandemic levels.

In a report the International Air Transport Association - which has 290 member airlines - said demand for air travel has collapsed due to the slow containment of coronavirus in America and developing countries.

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That's going to have a significant economic impact in those developed nations that had a significant footprint in the air travel industry.

In the US our postal service does not have its own fleet of planes, they depend on commercial airlines for package and mail movement. With major schedule reductions more packages have to move by truck which significantly slows delivery of anything shipped via USPS.
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Reminded me of something else I had read that gets affected by lack of flights. Weather forecasts!

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PFIZER CEO BOURLA: THE COMPANY HOPES TO HAVE NOVEL ANTIVIRAL TREATMENT FOR COVID 19 IN CLINIC BY SEPT.
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FLORIDA TOTAL CORONAVIRUS DEATHS UP 191 ON TUE., THE HIGHEST SINGLE-DAY INCREASE SINCE PANDEMIC STARTED.




New cases: 9243 (effectively the same amount as last Tuesday)
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FLORIDA TOTAL CORONAVIRUS DEATHS UP 191 ON TUE., THE HIGHEST SINGLE-DAY INCREASE SINCE PANDEMIC STARTED.




New cases: 9243 (effectively the same amount as last Tuesday)
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FLORIDA NEW HOSPITALIZATIONS ALSO UP.....+585!!!!, Miami-Dade county alone had another 3,037 cases reported!!! UGH!

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Only 3 cases?!

Vietnam is evacuating 80,000 people, mostly local tourists, from the central city of Da Nang after three residents tested positive for coronavirus.

...Vietnam had gone 99 days in a row without community transmission before a 57-year old man was confirmed to have the virus on Saturday, according to state media....

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These actions not matching cases.... it’s sad, but fun to watch. Proves we are right. One cases is very bad. Very flicking bad.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Kinda sick.
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Well.... I can’t do anything else. And since you want to read into every last word...... I suppose I need to add more words.

It will at least help DT get to his beyond epic thread status.

Translation.....it’s fun to watch other governments dance through hoops for 3 cases when most folks think it’s just an upper respiratory infection.

Damn....
 Quoting: CleverCreator

Thread status is certainly CRUCIAL, eh?
Translation...if you think anything about this is fun you're a sick puppy.
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The switch of data from the CDC to HHS may be able to disguise things for a little while, and keep the nothingburger crowd happily doing their thing and acting as vectors ... but the increase in hospitalizations, disability, and death will become very, very evident in coming weeks, I think. No matter how hard TPTB try to hide this scourge, they won't be able to do it for long.

Morning, everyone. I'm checking in before heading out to the nursery where I do bird care .... and then working from home for the day. My sleep schedule has been wacky .... I slept all day yesterday, woke up at 6 in time for a 7 pm Zoom meeting, and decided to spend the night doing some much needed organizing, and checking news in between. Now, it's time to begin a work day at a normal time in the morning, and hope I am tired enough to sleep tonight.

Love you all, and hope you are staying safe.
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Critical Update 07.28.2020

Just finished a comparative analysis of COVID statistics between a county in Texas and counties in Virginia.

The results are remarkably the same:

Of those who test positive, approximately 1.1%-1.4% of them die.

Approximately 5%-8% of those who test positive end up hospitalized.

Of those who are hospitalized, approximately 22% of them die and leave the hospital in a body bag.

Extrapolated to the entire United States population, even assuming 60%-80% of the population is naturally immune, the numbers become quite large and indicate that the pandemic has only reached 10% of its inevitable outcome.

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These actions not matching cases.... it’s sad, but fun to watch. Proves we are right. One cases is very bad. Very flicking bad.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Kinda sick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78648514


Well.... I can’t do anything else. And since you want to read into every last word...... I suppose I need to add more words.

It will at least help DT get to his beyond epic thread status.

Translation.....it’s fun to watch other governments dance through hoops for 3 cases when most folks think it’s just an upper respiratory infection.

Damn....
 Quoting: CleverCreator

Thread status is certainly CRUCIAL, eh?
Translation...if you think anything about this is fun you're a sick puppy.
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Not crucial, but he deserves it. I wouldn’t had been as prepared.

And if you think I am sick because I can remain calm and see the epic cosmic, unfortunately, morbid jokes.....that’s your issue. And I am sorry that you don’t see the care and kindness I put into 95% of my posts. But again that’s your problem....not mine.

I hope you have a blessed day.
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The switch of data from the CDC to HHS may be able to disguise things for a little while, and keep the nothingburger crowd happily doing their thing and acting as vectors ... but the increase in hospitalizations, disability, and death will become very, very evident in coming weeks, I think. No matter how hard TPTB try to hide this scourge, they won't be able to do it for long.

Morning, everyone. I'm checking in before heading out to the nursery where I do bird care .... and then working from home for the day. My sleep schedule has been wacky .... I slept all day yesterday, woke up at 6 in time for a 7 pm Zoom meeting, and decided to spend the night doing some much needed organizing, and checking news in between. Now, it's time to begin a work day at a normal time in the morning, and hope I am tired enough to sleep tonight.

Love you all, and hope you are staying safe.
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Enjoy! You are loved as well. Stay safe.
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Has anyone seen or heard from JypsieWind? She has not been on in almost a month...
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I have not, GG, sorry.
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Critical Update 07.28.2020

Just finished a comparative analysis of COVID statistics between a county in Texas and counties in Virginia.

The results are remarkably the same:

Of those who test positive, approximately 1.1%-1.4% of them die.

Approximately 5%-8% of those who test positive end up hospitalized.

Of those who are hospitalized, approximately 22% of them die and leave the hospital in a body bag.

Extrapolated to the entire United States population, even assuming 60%-80% of the population is naturally immune, the numbers become quite large and indicate that the pandemic has only reached 10% of its inevitable outcome.

- Jackal
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60 to 80 % immunity assumption is extremely large.....

Oooo. Really hope they are still doing research into the lurking issues. That’s going to bite a lot of folks in the bottom.
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Kinda sick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78648514


Well.... I can’t do anything else. And since you want to read into every last word...... I suppose I need to add more words.

It will at least help DT get to his beyond epic thread status.

Translation.....it’s fun to watch other governments dance through hoops for 3 cases when most folks think it’s just an upper respiratory infection.

Damn....
 Quoting: CleverCreator

Thread status is certainly CRUCIAL, eh?
Translation...if you think anything about this is fun you're a sick puppy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78648514


Not crucial, but he deserves it. I wouldn’t had been as prepared.

And if you think I am sick because I can remain calm and see the epic cosmic, unfortunately, morbid jokes.....that’s your issue. And I am sorry that you don’t see the care and kindness I put into 95% of my posts. But again that’s your problem....not mine.

I hope you have a blessed day.
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Okay thanks. And LIVE IT UP!
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Critical Update 07.28.2020

Just finished a comparative analysis of COVID statistics between a county in Texas and counties in Virginia.

The results are remarkably the same:

Of those who test positive, approximately 1.1%-1.4% of them die.

Approximately 5%-8% of those who test positive end up hospitalized.

Of those who are hospitalized, approximately 22% of them die and leave the hospital in a body bag.

Extrapolated to the entire United States population, even assuming 60%-80% of the population is naturally immune, the numbers become quite large and indicate that the pandemic has only reached 10% of its inevitable outcome.

- Jackal
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60 to 80 % immunity assumption is extremely large.....

Oooo. Really hope they are still doing research into the lurking issues. That’s going to bite a lot of folks in the bottom.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yes, it is. I try to be extremely generous with my assumptions. That being said, it does seem that the virus transmission slows extremely once about 28% of the population is infected which could support the theory of 72%-84% natural immunity.

I also purposefully neglected reinfection or double/triple infection in my calculations as a large scale effect from these has not yet been able to be empirically observed.

But if it is true that those recovered lose immunity after a few months and then are subjected to the same odds over and over again, the end state will have a compounding effect.

And well, in that case, the future looks very grim indeed.

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