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One of the biggest convid cluster we had here was from a School.
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I don't know what to do, I'm a 60 yo teacher with COPD, asthma and diabetes and qualified by doctors as "highest risk medically". No social distancing in the school, no measures, no tests and we are BANNED from buying our own PPE (you can't buy it unless you're healthcare). I need to pay the bills but the risk is so high. Medical workers have PPE .. I'm so scared I can't sleep.
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anybody 50 and up is screwed. they want us to go away for many reasons. healthcare , pensions, climate change, jobs, social justice, social norms etc etc. the 35 and below crowd hates our guts.

they all want us to die. one less mouth to feed and take care of. and the hedge fund totals go up!!
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the teachers are posting their classroom setups on tik tok now. The ones I've seen thus far aren't too reassuring. The desks are crammed too close and some teachers have 27 students..so what is different?
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I don't know what to do, I'm a 60 yo teacher with COPD, asthma and diabetes and qualified by doctors as "highest risk medically". No social distancing in the school, no measures, no tests and we are BANNED from buying our own PPE (you can't buy it unless you're healthcare). I need to pay the bills but the risk is so high. Medical workers have PPE .. I'm so scared I can't sleep.
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anybody 50 and up is screwed. they want us to go away for many reasons. healthcare , pensions, climate change, jobs, social justice, social norms etc etc. the 35 and below crowd hates our guts.

they all want us to die. one less mouth to feed and take care of. and the hedge fund totals go up!!
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Ageism it's a thing, especially in corporate.

I read where two-thirds of teachers in America or over 50 or 55 (don't recall) but either way that's not a good scenario right now for a safe educational environment.

And who is going to micro-manage the kids new behaviors in compliance to Covid? Seems like it's going to be a big waste of time at the very least to get a sound education in a classroom in the fall of 2020.
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the teachers are posting their classroom setups on tik tok now. The ones I've seen thus far aren't too reassuring. The desks are crammed too close and some teachers have 27 students..so what is different?
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Here we can have 40 students inside a classroom as small as a toilet. They say we can do without social distancing and without PPE. This is beyond ridiculous especially when very high risk medically.
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ages 10-20 are the most infectious
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school plan is a joke. kids in school 2 days a week,2 sets. WED is clean day. rest of week is online. this look like it will work?
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This is already being done in many places in hybrid private/home school. My oldest did this for middle and high school. Worked just fine education wise. For COVID, I don’t really seeing it being that helpful.
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school plan is a joke. kids in school 2 days a week,2 sets. WED is clean day. rest of week is online. this look like it will work?
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This is already being done in many places in hybrid private/home school. My oldest did this for middle and high school. Worked just fine education wise. For COVID, I don’t really seeing it being that helpful.
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Nothing of this kind here. Only in person school both for children and staff! It's a normal school year. No measures.
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Poland today 657 new cases.Minister of Health of Poland said there won't be new lockdown for whole country
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A while ago, maybe a week, I told you that Poland is not going to avoid what is coming.


You asked me what do I think it will happen in Poland, and I said something on the lines of "Ask me again at the end of August, but before that, you will find the answer anyway".


I am a guy that tells it how it sees it, without attached emotions, because the virus doesn't have emotions, and not to scare people, but shorten their path to last stage : Acceptance.


No country on Earth will escape what is coming, and we won't make it unless we lock-down again. The leaders know that, and they are slowly preparing us,


The lock-downs will come again, but not before the virus will ravage the world, because most people are in denial, and a lock-down now, or in August or September will be resisted by most.


But not in October.



The pandemic will be SO BAD in October, everywhere, that most people will not only accept another lock-down, but will ASK FOR IT.


And then it will be point of no return.
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We won't make it if no lockdown? You mean whole human society will collapse (Mad Max scenario)?
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Hi all...long time no see.

Took a long doom break after the first wave in March/April.

We were virus as a country by May and have been enjoying our summer carefree.

But them fukers decided to open up the borders on June 15th to the Schengen area only while Icelandic nationals could enter the country from where ever, including the U.S. Border testing was set up and required for those entering.

But infections kept slipping through. People tested negative at the border only to test positive a few days later. Something to be expected. We had a few such isolated cases that were quickly surpressed.

But...as of now we have officially entered a second wave. Infections gone from 10 to 50 in a couple of days, all over the country among people who have had no contact.
Unlike last spring, we don't know the source of entry making contact tracing impossible and will thus surely be seeing a worse wave this time around.

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school plan is a joke. kids in school 2 days a week,2 sets. WED is clean day. rest of week is online. this look like it will work?
 Quoting: JAZZz50


This is already being done in many places in hybrid private/home school. My oldest did this for middle and high school. Worked just fine education wise. For COVID, I don’t really seeing it being that helpful.
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Nothing of this kind here. Only in person school both for children and staff! It's a normal school year. No measures.
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The days my son had classes was for instruction, the 3 at home days were for applying what they learned in class: reading, labs, homework, papers, tests, etc. Teachers still available online. The college transition was seamless because it was more of the same. BUT, my son got sick every year just as he did when he went 5 days a week. This won’t make a difference fir COVID I don’t think.
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school plan is a joke. kids in school 2 days a week,2 sets. WED is clean day. rest of week is online. this look like it will work?
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This is already being done in many places in hybrid private/home school. My oldest did this for middle and high school. Worked just fine education wise. For COVID, I don’t really seeing it being that helpful.
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any big shot lawyers in the house? could get ruff.

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ages 10-20 are the most infectious
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No study in any country of the world has showed this.

They get infected, yes.
But they are not as infectious to others as are adults.

This holds pretty convincingly for ages 10 and under. However teens may prove to be similar to adults in both getting and transmitting the virus.

This is a study of the camp cluster in Georgia.
As a Scout camp director of over 10 years several things in this study stood out to me, but obviously the epidemiological tracking is not complete.
SARS COV 2 Transmission and Infection Among Attendees of an Overnight Camp in Georgia
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Hi all...long time no see.

Took a long doom break after the first wave in March/April.

We were virus as a country by May and have been enjoying our summer carefree.

But them fukers decided to open up the borders on June 15th to the Schengen area only while Icelandic nationals could enter the country from where ever, including the U.S. Border testing was set up and required for those entering.

But infections kept slipping through. People tested negative at the border only to test positive a few days later. Something to be expected. We had a few such isolated cases that were quickly surpressed.

But...as of now we have officially entered a second wave. Infections gone from 10 to 50 in a couple of days, all over the country among people who have had no contact.
Unlike last spring, we don't know the source of entry making contact tracing impossible and will thus surely be seeing a worse wave this time around.
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It's good to "see" you again. Sorry to hear about the increase in cases.
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Hi all...long time no see.

Took a long doom break after the first wave in March/April.

We were virus as a country by May and have been enjoying our summer carefree.

But them fukers decided to open up the borders on June 15th to the Schengen area only while Icelandic nationals could enter the country from where ever, including the U.S. Border testing was set up and required for those entering.

But infections kept slipping through. People tested negative at the border only to test positive a few days later. Something to be expected. We had a few such isolated cases that were quickly surpressed.

But...as of now we have officially entered a second wave. Infections gone from 10 to 50 in a couple of days, all over the country among people who have had no contact.
Unlike last spring, we don't know the source of entry making contact tracing impossible and will thus surely be seeing a worse wave this time around.
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You were missed and in our thoughts.

Sorry about the border assholes.
Acknowledge that life is changing. Stay home and prepare for what comes next. Be mindful of the good because it’s going to be a hard fucking year.
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Hi all...long time no see.

Took a long doom break after the first wave in March/April.

We were virus as a country by May and have been enjoying our summer carefree.

But them fukers decided to open up the borders on June 15th to the Schengen area only while Icelandic nationals could enter the country from where ever, including the U.S. Border testing was set up and required for those entering.

But infections kept slipping through. People tested negative at the border only to test positive a few days later. Something to be expected. We had a few such isolated cases that were quickly surpressed.

But...as of now we have officially entered a second wave. Infections gone from 10 to 50 in a couple of days, all over the country among people who have had no contact.
Unlike last spring, we don't know the source of entry making contact tracing impossible and will thus surely be seeing a worse wave this time around.
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It's good to "see" you again. Sorry to hear about the increase in cases.
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Ditto ;)

Totally frustrating..most of us just want the borders closed so we can enjoy our domestic freedom...ugh
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ages 10-20 are the most infectious
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No study in any country of the world has showed this.

They get infected, yes.
But they are not as infectious to others as are adults.

This holds pretty convincingly for ages 10 and under. However teens may prove to be similar to adults in both getting and transmitting the virus.

This is a study of the camp cluster in Georgia.
As a Scout camp director of over 10 years several things in this study stood out to me, but obviously the epidemiological tracking is not complete.
SARS COV 2 Transmission and Infection Among Attendees of an Overnight Camp in Georgia
[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
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You are about to get a lesson in germ warfare and why schools are disgusting germ factories.

Sorry.
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October.Start of new academic year.I'm on the edge of decision regarding my future in University.I'm on dean leave since January.If this thing will be as bad as you say in October I won't end up my studies
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ages 10-20 are the most infectious
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78086220


No study in any country of the world has showed this.

They get infected, yes.
But they are not as infectious to others as are adults.

This holds pretty convincingly for ages 10 and under. However teens may prove to be similar to adults in both getting and transmitting the virus.

This is a study of the camp cluster in Georgia.
As a Scout camp director of over 10 years several things in this study stood out to me, but obviously the epidemiological tracking is not complete.
SARS COV 2 Transmission and Infection Among Attendees of an Overnight Camp in Georgia
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In a french school, 50% of staff and students were infected before the lockdown.

In a kindergarten, just days ago, all staff was infected and toddlers are also sick for some but can't be tested because it could hurt them.

You have Korea and several other studies too.
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Hi all...long time no see.

Took a long doom break after the first wave in March/April.

We were virus as a country by May and have been enjoying our summer carefree.

But them fukers decided to open up the borders on June 15th to the Schengen area only while Icelandic nationals could enter the country from where ever, including the U.S. Border testing was set up and required for those entering.

But infections kept slipping through. People tested negative at the border only to test positive a few days later. Something to be expected. We had a few such isolated cases that were quickly surpressed.

But...as of now we have officially entered a second wave. Infections gone from 10 to 50 in a couple of days, all over the country among people who have had no contact.
Unlike last spring, we don't know the source of entry making contact tracing impossible and will thus surely be seeing a worse wave this time around.
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You were missed and in our thoughts.

Sorry about the border assholes.
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Thank you hf

Yeah..Icelandair and tourism come first. The rest of us can suck it. Utterly stupid. It's a dead industry either way.
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ages 10-20 are the most infectious
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No study in any country of the world has showed this.

They get infected, yes.
But they are not as infectious to others as are adults.

This holds pretty convincingly for ages 10 and under. However teens may prove to be similar to adults in both getting and transmitting the virus.

This is a study of the camp cluster in Georgia.
As a Scout camp director of over 10 years several things in this study stood out to me, but obviously the epidemiological tracking is not complete.
SARS COV 2 Transmission and Infection Among Attendees of an Overnight Camp in Georgia
[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
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Just to butt in on the school debate..


Here in Iceland the first wave was smothered in 2 months with testing and extremely effective contact tracing/quarantine/isolation. We were lucky enough to be able to do that back then.

We however didn't close pre- and primary schools. Students were allowed in groups of 20 to maintain distance which resulted in each kid being able to go every other day to school.

Not a single infection was traced back to a kid. Every single kid that got infected got it from an adult.

If this second wave that has now started dragges on, I doubt thrm kids will even be split into groups of 20 this time around and that they will just be allowed to carry on as usual.
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Jared's National Test plan (which came close to being announced) went poof into thin air in the Spring when only blue states were surging.

Politically, it was shelved by the WH. How many lives may have been saved otherwise?

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Drive-by waving...

<penguiny waves>


Lots going on lately, haven't made a lot of time, the odd late evening post to call a moran a moran :D Just wanted to give a quick hello and tell everyone to take care and be safe!

hf

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I don't know what to do, I'm a 60 yo teacher with COPD, asthma and diabetes and qualified by doctors as "highest risk medically". No social distancing in the school, no measures, no tests and we are BANNED from buying our own PPE (you can't buy it unless you're healthcare). I need to pay the bills but the risk is so high. Medical workers have PPE .. I'm so scared I can't sleep.
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anybody 50 and up is screwed. they want us to go away for many reasons. healthcare , pensions, climate change, jobs, social justice, social norms etc etc. the 35 and below crowd hates our guts.

they all want us to die. one less mouth to feed and take care of. and the hedge fund totals go up!!
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And obese

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Drive-by waving...

<penguiny waves>


Lots going on lately, haven't made a lot of time, the odd late evening post to call a moran a moran :D Just wanted to give a quick hello and tell everyone to take care and be safe!

hf

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Hey, Penguin! Glad you're ok, nice to "see" you again.
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* U.S. HOUSE CANCELS AUGUST RECESS AMID CORONAVIRUS AID BILL TALKS - @CBSNews, CITING HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER HOYER

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Steny is not the House Majority Leader, unless there is something they are not telling us about Nancy Pelosi
 Quoting: dodger007


Looks like you've got confused between Speaker of the House and House Majority Leader.
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Re: Covid19/WORLD:20.553.000/USA:5.307.000/DAMAGE P10036/MUT-D614G P10205/ INDIA:2 MILLION P10398/BRAZIL:3 MILLION,100K DEATHS P10413
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Lots going on lately, haven't made a lot of time, the odd late evening post to call a moran a moran :D Just wanted to give a quick hello and tell everyone to take care and be safe!

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Hello! Hope you and your family are doing well!!!
Waiting for the inflection point of no return....





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