Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315

Bet there’s a lot of private jet usage down that-a-way.

Lots of "if" and "might" and "could" and "may" and "we don't know yet" in that article.

[link to www.israel21c.org (secure)]

Someone is looking for grant money.

The crux of their argument is "If all the tried and true methods that have been in place for 70 years keeping the 6,000 other deadly pathogens in sewage out of drinking and irrigation water, then MAYBE there's a chance that COVID could make it out somewhere and MAYBE infect someone... but we just don't know yet. Better give us money RIGHT NOW so we can find out!!!

7 months into this now, still not a single infection at any of my sewage plants... 200 some odd employees between them.

Damn. One trick I learned that always worked on drunks when I was young was to put my arm out hard with hand up and say, with meaning business, “halt”. It always worked. They know what they are doing. Never let them get within arms distance.

If you are a woman it’s always a nightmare with people like that.

Bait and switch. They are all doing it.

I agree with you in principle RW, that said however 1 out of 400 isn't a problem. If it means you go from 0 to 1 it becomes a problem. We need a higher degree of certainty with transmission on either side of the intestinal system. We need less "shitty" research with speculative conclusions for both the entry and the exit regarding this topic.

Got to be terrible getting whiplash before earthquakes. Sucks.

I vaguely recall seeing a YouTube video of a miles long line of sewage tanker trucks driving out of some middle eastern place that forgot to put in a sewage system as the grew. Hope that place has rectified that problem by now or they are going to be in deep covid shit.

I was thinking of you as I was sitting on the deck drawing today because all the squirrels in the trees were chewing of walnut husks. Sounded like they were all eating Doritos.

I see..... well my patience will be challenged. Must try harder.

And order extra meds last month :)

Hey maybe the variant shed some nucleotide weight because who needs to evade the immune system when you can just replicate by forcing cells to grow pseudopodia and jab the next cell over to shoot your load over yonder then climb up and down neurons into and through the brain and nervous system for free? Wheeeee ...

I stopped trying. :)

But there is a definite lack of droppers..... which is interesting. The folks in the hospital.... that’s a good question. .....???

100% staged.

:chomp:

Yeah, judging by his random noises and expressions, he had some kind of brain damage. I do my best not to judge people, but I still can't shake the thoughts and feeling of unease and somewhat violation. Let's hope he wasn't infectious. Went home and applied tons of soap to hands, then wet wipes, then hand alcohol.

Ey SOS, show us some drawings!

Last Edited by Snuffielover on 08/25/2020 07:31 PM

A) A mutation does not occur simultaneously everywhere. My prior frustration is that I cannot track the mutation and look at the data to see anomalous anomalies.
B) We have medical protocols now. I hope you'll trust me but if not I hope TH will back this up, but a lot less patients die if you don't have to reinvent the wheel but can look at a signal and respond in a preconceived appropriate way. Even though these protocols may have been around for a bit now, they don't really get implemented well until you've gone through a few patients. And we'll forego the exceptions for now.

-ETA: CC for a few days, lets not put food out after midnight? Consider it a experiment.
-E2: Caught myself englishing wrong, see underlined.

Last Edited by Dutchy20 on 08/25/2020 07:43 PM

I agree.
And I knew I had seen it previously.

Discovery and Genomic Characterization of a 382-Nucleotide Deletion in ORF7b and ORF8 during the Early Evolution of SARS-CoV-2

...the SARS-CoV-2 382-nt deletion viruses showed significantly higher replicative fitness in vitro than the wild type, while no difference was observed in patient viral load, indicating that the deletion variant viruses retained their replicative fitness

[link to mbio.asm.org (secure)]

Here’s the Lancet (more recent)

Development of hypoxia requiring supplemental oxygen was less frequent in the DELTA 382 variant group (0 [0%] of 29 patients) than in the wild-type only group (26 [28%] of 92; absolute difference 28% [95% CI 14–28]).

Effects of a major deletion in the SARS-CoV-2 genome on the severity of infection and the inflammatory response: an observational cohort study
[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Guythu on 08/25/2020 07:50 PM

Which time zone? And rabbit food or mess hall?

I think Stripe ate chicken legs and the others are ice cream.

Oh my gosh what I wouldn’t give for some fried chicken..... I can’t fry it at home because of my lungs. I did learn how to cook crispy Bacon in the oven.

Oh. I don’t remember this change. Maybe this is how the rumor of less severe got started.

Meh. Article was "Received June 16, 2020"

"The earliest 382-nt deletion variant was detected in Singapore on 29 January 2020, with the deletion viruses circulating in the country and accounting for 23.6% (45/191) of SARS-CoV-2 samples screened in this study."

"In addition to Δ382 viruses, other ORF7b and/or ORF8 deletions, from 62 nt to 345 nt, have been observed in Australia (n = 2), Bangladesh (n = 2), and Spain (n = 2)"



Interesting. Dated Aug 18, focus on Singapore. Combined this may be a good thing but i'll be boring and say we need more data. The lancet study is the kind of data we want to see but the data for the D382 (It's D382 now, I'm not playing the Delta game) is skewed to lower ages and the N is very small.

What we would want to see is data for the prevalence of D382 and/or mutations in Orf7b and Orf8 and compare it to the rate of hospitalizations vs. ICU admissions. From the data that I have seen thus far the deletion would appear to be less likely to create the immune dis-regulation that has tended to cause the quick and severe symptoms, that would at least be my working hypothesis going by this all.

Then maybe at some point I'll try to learn microbiologists naming scheme's. It tends to read like my naming conventions for variables when I was 12 and started programming.

Last Edited by Dutchy20 on 08/25/2020 08:12 PM

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

C.D.C. Now Says People Without Covid-19 Symptoms Do Not Need Testing

The revision prompted confusion and alarm from experts, who called the move “potentially dangerous.”

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

Brazil Has 679 New Covid-19 Deaths; Total Deaths Is 115,451

21,491 cases of the disease were recorded in the last 24 hours, according to a press consortium

[link to www1.folha.uol.com.br (secure)]

Maybe an air fryer?
I put mine outside sometimes.
Not the same as pan fried. But..it’s something.

What is the code for the this ifs fine with the room burning thingy?

-E: See below.

Last Edited by Dutchy20 on 08/25/2020 08:23 PM

Outside in good weather with a fan blowing over the pan? I get confused at people calling america the land of deep frying things when it's actually normal for most dutch people to keep a deep fryer in the shed.

-E: See Underlined, not englishing well tonight.

Last Edited by Dutchy20 on 08/25/2020 08:22 PM

Air fryer is just a smaller convection oven with moving bits. Just put it in the oven with a bit of oil dribbled over and stir it around more.

“thisisfine” - replace quotes with colons