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 Quoting: Guythu


I think they are full of shit on the canning supplies being short due to high demand. While most suburbanites will hit the local Cosco and stock up. I find it extremely hard that millions have turned their back yards into gardens. There's no shortage of books on canning, because they have all been canning for years. There's no shortage of pressure canners because everyone always had a pressure canner on the shelf.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Crunch said he can’t find a pressure canner.

I think it is the $200k and over that never had to buy supplies before.

And the canning lids have been an issue since April. Folks that can drive around have more luck. But it is hit and miss online....even target has a hard time keeping them in stock.
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Nah. It’s not a classist thing. They are in demand by everyone.

Having one canner was ok in 2019. Most of us would like a second or third one.
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I'm ok with my one canner. I have two extra seals for it and I feel comfortable with that.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Check this out. I know a lot of people LARP, but damn, this one is eerie

Thread: Trials begin by February 2020.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


GLP knew.
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Lmfao.

Post after post, page after page of stupid ass registered members talking out their asses about fake ass bullshit.

Funny fucking shit really, so obvious, so gay....
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Does China actually even have a vaccine?

Coronavirus: Canada confirms planned Chinese vaccine trial has been scrapped after shipments delayed

Ad5-nCoV, developed by China military scientists led by Major General Chen Wei and Tianjin-based pharmaceutical company CanSino, is one of the front runners in the race to develop a Covid-19 vaccine.

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Denmark
Less than half a percent test positive - expert casts doubt on Danish test strategy


23,446 people have been tested in the last 24 hours, and out of that group, only 0.3 have tested positive.

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The cost of Stockholm's corona tests is already up to half a billion

More than 550,000 Stockholmers have now been tested for the coronavirus and the cost has already exceeded half a billion. Statistics show that as many as 16 percent have antibodies to the virus.

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High level list of shortages

The latest shortages caused by COVID-19 you may not have seen coming

- Lumber
- Meat
- Bicycles
- Aluminum
- Furniture
- Appliances
- Laptops
- Coinage
- Workers

[link to www.wate.com (secure)]



No can do: Pandemic canning trend causing shortage of lids and jars for home gardeners

- Canning Lids & Jars

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 Quoting: Guythu


I think they are full of shit on the canning supplies being short due to high demand. While most suburbanites will hit the local Cosco and stock up. I find it extremely hard that millions have turned their back yards into gardens. There's no shortage of books on canning, because they have all been canning for years. There's no shortage of pressure canners because everyone always had a pressure canner on the shelf.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Crunch said he can’t find a pressure canner.

I think it is the $200k and over that never had to buy supplies before.

And the canning lids have been an issue since April. Folks that can drive around have more luck. But it is hit and miss online....even target has a hard time keeping them in stock.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I bought a big supply of jars and lids back in Feb,March. I just looked and Amazon had plenty of canners listed, most are the cheap knock offs.New canners probably don't know to either get the All American Canner or if you can't afford it the Presto canner,but there is no shortage of them. This is a supply side issue not a demand issue like is what is being told. I don't think they can keep up with normal demand. Unless preppers are stockpiling the shit out of them when they see them.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Thanks, but I don’t want an AA canner and Amazon has no presto pressure canners available for sale now. Lots of pressure cookers and knock offs I wouldn’t trust, though.

Anyone new to canning who bought a Presto pressure canner should buy a Presto pressure regulator now while they are still available. They are $22. That is the only extra Part you need to make the Presto work as well as an AA.
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Check this out. I know a lot of people LARP, but damn, this one is eerie

Thread: Trials begin by February 2020.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


GLP knew.
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Some folks just feel it.....

Like when writers credit God or the beyond ....

:)
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Does China actually even have a vaccine?

Coronavirus: Canada confirms planned Chinese vaccine trial has been scrapped after shipments delayed

Ad5-nCoV, developed by China military scientists led by Major General Chen Wei and Tianjin-based pharmaceutical company CanSino, is one of the front runners in the race to develop a Covid-19 vaccine.

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Take three....

Probably not.
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The sites acting up for me. Click on posts says bad gateway click on last page and it works.


But Walmart still has Prestos in stock
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We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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High level list of shortages

The latest shortages caused by COVID-19 you may not have seen coming

- Lumber
- Meat
- Bicycles
- Aluminum
- Furniture
- Appliances
- Laptops
- Coinage
- Workers

[link to www.wate.com (secure)]



No can do: Pandemic canning trend causing shortage of lids and jars for home gardeners

- Canning Lids & Jars

[link to www.wate.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


I think they are full of shit on the canning supplies being short due to high demand. While most suburbanites will hit the local Cosco and stock up. I find it extremely hard that millions have turned their back yards into gardens. There's no shortage of books on canning, because they have all been canning for years. There's no shortage of pressure canners because everyone always had a pressure canner on the shelf.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


My grandmother couldn’t find Sure Jell to make jelly.
We all thought the same thing.
How many people sudently took up jarring jelly and jams?
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Gift her with Pomona’s Pectin sent from Amazon! No preservatives and she can use way less sugar. I don’t think they sell Pomona’s in grocery stores.

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Model, update, model some more..update.


What you need to know about COVID-19: Model projects more than 317,000 US COVID deaths by December

As of Friday morning, the model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington projects that 317,312 people may die from the illness — marking an increase of about 8,000 deaths from a previous estimate the model projected one week ago.

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according to the CBS news,masks will help save 60,000 of the deaths from here to DEC. so bout 1 out of 3 lives will b saved by the guidelines. not great. i would think the efforts would help more.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Why do you continue to post here.

It seems the only stupid person on this thread is you. Someone posting on a thread they think is a joke is quite a waste of energy.

You get a gold star for effort though

smile_kiss
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Ah, this thread is so much more bearable now that I can block AC comments. It is a shame because there were some ACs that contributed to the conversation, but they were - unfortunately - a minority. Hopefully they will sign up for free accounts.
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Being able to block AC comments Is wonderful! That will change if the trolls register and/or get craftier at provoking regulars into tedious battles.
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A little bit of poke the troll makes the day roll.

:)
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I figure that on “sporting days” I’ll temporarily block friends, too, lol.
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Ah, this thread is so much more bearable now that I can block AC comments. It is a shame because there were some ACs that contributed to the conversation, but they were - unfortunately - a minority. Hopefully they will sign up for free accounts.
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Being able to block AC comments Is wonderful! That will change if the trolls register and/or get craftier at provoking regulars into tedious battles.
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A little bit of poke the troll makes the day roll.

:)
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I figure that on “sporting days” I’ll temporarily block friends, too, lol.
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I will take no offense :)
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SOS... the dot is back. And red. Gonna be a newsworthy day.....

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Seems to be bouncing all over. Gonna be a nutso day.
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SOS... the dot is back. And red. Gonna be a newsworthy day.....

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Seems to be bouncing all over. Gonna be a nutso day.
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:nodding:
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Coronavirus update: The nasal spray proven to kill COVID-19 - what is it?


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Canning supplies is one of the preps I purchased back in March and I'm glad I did. There are no lids to be found it seems in my area and my friends can't get their normal canning done like they do every year.
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I have Tattler reusable lids and gaskets in my preps and am very careful to keep the jar’s metal bands dry so the don’t decay.
 Quoting: sos


I remember that.... those sound amazing. I never even knew there were reusable ones.

I normally make my stuff to give away as gifts..... so the concept never crossed my mind.

oops
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I like their original ones better. When they switched to the Chinese made I had more lids popping off. Doubt it’s a problem with water bath canning, though.

Don’t know about their latest green ones.
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Everything's a gamble. You walk outside, you risk your life. You take a drink of water, you risk your life.

Nowadays you breath and you risk your life. You don’t have a choice. The only thing you can choose is what you’re risking it for.

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tt 1

Agreed, we have to carry on, life is totally a risk, every-time we drive, fly, even eat we face possible death, 1 out of 2 of us here will get cancer at some stage of our lives.

Some of our elder posters and those who have dependents like CC, I fully understand your reason's for taking extra precautions.

Be careful and vigilant, don't put ourselves in immediate danger, avoid unnecessary risks, but we can still lead a decent life, even in these doom filled times..
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hide

A beautiful life doesn’t have to have all the trimmings of the outside for a year or so. But those are decisions that individuals have to make.

I am sorry the world is changing. If the new card size antigen tests are soon....the world is about to shutdown way sooner. It will show the asymptomatic issue more widely. And that going out is of more risk than many folks realized.

Have a gorgeous day.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I don't think the World is going to be shut down again, regional hotspots yes, but full lockdown, no.

UD claims the UK will be in full, nothing moves lockdown by mid September, from what I'm seeing at the moment I doubt very much whether he will be correct.

Ever vigilant though as things can change....

Hope your day goes well..
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from the time UD and DR said SEPT-OCT lockowns, i could see how things had to go. it will b day n night difference from how the world sees the virus. will b a nightmare. ppl running around ignoring the virus will b hiding under their beds.

have the school situations woke more up? here they just opened and the local news has been downplaying #'s for several months. we've never saw the social distance rules followed in stores.lucky to get 4 feet between ppl.ppl are wearing masks but haphazardly.

still it can go upside down quickly. DR ain't really been wrong yet.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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High level list of shortages

The latest shortages caused by COVID-19 you may not have seen coming

- Lumber
- Meat
- Bicycles
- Aluminum
- Furniture
- Appliances
- Laptops
- Coinage
- Workers

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No can do: Pandemic canning trend causing shortage of lids and jars for home gardeners

- Canning Lids & Jars

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 Quoting: Guythu


some meds including over the counter are getting very short. imodium seems to b out everywhere. others have been hit and miss. clothing supplies are down considerably. least at Walmart.mens aisle was cut to a quarter of the store space from before and then very limited.some shoes were out as well.

return can prices have gone up half a cent over the nickel rate at 1 recycling center.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Here the secret words were “Dark Winter”
Apparently, there it is “Terrifying Winter”

Less than 50%

A terrifying winter scenario with Covid-19. We are talking about tens of thousands of deaths

Up to 85,000 people may die from the coronavirus in the coming winter in the UK. people. ... government's confidential "relatively worst-case scenario", which the BBC announced on Saturday.
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prepared for the government by the SAGE scientific crisis advisory group and is intended to help public health and local authorities prepare for the coming winter months.
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schools will remain open...
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...by November "measures will be introduced to limit contacts outside households to half of their normal level prior to March 2020
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found that there could be 81,000 in England and Wales. deaths directly due to Covid-19 and an additional 27,000 deaths above average from other reasons. There could be 2,600 deaths in Scotland directly from Covid-19 and 1,900 in Northern Ireland.

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Wow.
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Canning supplies is one of the preps I purchased back in March and I'm glad I did. There are no lids to be found it seems in my area and my friends can't get their normal canning done like they do every year.
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I have Tattler reusable lids and gaskets in my preps and am very careful to keep the jar’s metal bands dry so the don’t decay.
 Quoting: sos


I was always a little to nervous about using reusable lids. From what I've read they are more finicky so to speak than a regular one time lid for a good seal.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


The original ones work the best - before they switched to the Chinese manufacturer.

They are surprisingly ingenious. I put them under my binocular microscope to figure out what was going on. There is a very fine line in them spiraling out from the center, like in old records, that when they get up to pressure can expand due to the thinner and thicker lid wall. Once the lidded jars have cooled the lids go almost perfectly flat again.

Under the microscope the Chinese version was done less skillfully and although it looked superficially “close enough” I doubt that whoever invented it was in charge of the new manufacturer - probably turning over in his grave seeing what happened. At least that’s what I imagined when I put the new ones under the microscope.
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High level list of shortages

The latest shortages caused by COVID-19 you may not have seen coming

- Lumber
- Meat
- Bicycles
- Aluminum
- Furniture
- Appliances
- Laptops
- Coinage
- Workers

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No can do: Pandemic canning trend causing shortage of lids and jars for home gardeners

- Canning Lids & Jars

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 Quoting: Guythu


I think they are full of shit on the canning supplies being short due to high demand. While most suburbanites will hit the local Cosco and stock up. I find it extremely hard that millions have turned their back yards into gardens. There's no shortage of books on canning, because they have all been canning for years. There's no shortage of pressure canners because everyone always had a pressure canner on the shelf.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


It’s the metal parts that are probably the worst of the problem. I don’t bother with any jars under a quart and it’s hard to shop them from home because of high shipping costs. I’ve been lucky to find some from grocery home delivery but only the originals and only once. The wide mouth beginner jars are always out.
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I got my jars and lids from uline.com

Prices are up, but they are available for delivery.
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Here is yet another economic grind.... uninsured or under-insured might fall through the cracks of promised covid19 payment assistance.

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Between evictions and already large homeless populations (especially big cities).....

The increase in cases is inevitable.

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How's breaking the habit going?

I'm hoping

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Model, update, model some more..update.

What you need to know about COVID-19: Model projects more than 317,000 US COVID deaths by December

As of Friday morning, the model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington projects that 317,312 people may die from the illness — marking an increase of about 8,000 deaths from a previous estimate the model projected one week ago.

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 Quoting: Guythu


That would require about 1,450 deaths per day 7 days a week including Sundays between now and then... not gonna happen.

Our 7 day average of deaths hasn't been that high since May 18th... during the second wave it's never been above 1,200 and is currently trending down in the 900's range.

There's only 13 states with R numbers above 1 right now, and most of them are small.

Even if New England has a massive second wave in that timespan, I still don't see it getting that high.

Spain's second wave started pretty much July 1st, and only 600 people have died since then out of 180k cases in that time period.
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Model, update, model some more..update.

What you need to know about COVID-19: Model projects more than 317,000 US COVID deaths by December

As of Friday morning, the model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington projects that 317,312 people may die from the illness — marking an increase of about 8,000 deaths from a previous estimate the model projected one week ago.

[link to www.ketv.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


That would require about 1,450 deaths per day 7 days a week including Sundays between now and then... not gonna happen.

Our 7 day average of deaths hasn't been that high since May 18th... during the second wave it's never been above 1,200 and is currently trending down in the 900's range.

There's only 13 states with R numbers above 1 right now, and most of them are small.

Even if New England has a massive second wave in that timespan, I still don't see it getting that high.
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Close your eyes. Or turn off the computer.

The homeless population alone could trigger that number. Communities still haven’t put enough effort into reeling this issue in. Add evictions.....

Those numbers are low.
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Canning supplies is one of the preps I purchased back in March and I'm glad I did. There are no lids to be found it seems in my area and my friends can't get their normal canning done like they do every year.
 Quoting: dyin


Yah. It is a rough one. And I can’t figure out the kink. Because like Nef said.... canning books aren’t in shortage.

But we also don’t know how many bought kindle versions of those books.... these folks might have solar and not be worried about electronics.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


ULINE has jars, lids. ULINE.COM, pricing is better on higher quantities but since I was getting other things shipped from them the cost of the jars and lids of the 36 I bought was maybe $2.00 more than it would have been from Amazon with prime free shipping.

I bought spices and sugar in bulk and am using them for storing those. ULINE has those packets of moisture absorent stuff in huge and tiny sizes, that's how I also fo3out they sell canning jars and other long term food grade storage containers.
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