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drip drip drip

do not listen to the crazy man. he will not tell u what u want to hear. he thibnks AMERICA died long ago. it's like a dead man that ain't fell over yet. sorry but even the trees know a storm is coming.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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I also wish there were more discussion of long term disability with COVID - people might be a bit less cavalier about being exposed to it if they had the whole picture.. I'm well familiar with this dynamic, though ... for decades, "experts" (most infamously the IDSA) have been insisting that Lyme disease is hard to catch, easy to cure, and rarely causes long-term problems. The millions of us who have been living with the reality know that is all a bunch of lies. Similar dynamics have happened around CFIDS, fibromyalgia, and Gulf War Illness, as well as other poorly defined multi-system conditions.

It was actually my research around Lyme that really turned me into a conspiracy theorist ... the official narrative, and the reality, are so far apart ... and there is a very concerted effort to make Lyme patients (and our doctors) look crazy. The politics almost make the disease look mild by comparison. It was honestly hard to believe such a thing was happening in plain sight... but it is, and TPTB are still getting away with it, to a large degree. Some of it is profiteering by a handful of doctors who have patent and vaccine interests ... but I also think Lyme has a dark history of being modified to be so disabling, and that a good deal of the disinfo is a straight cover-up. Some very esteemed scientists agree with me on this (The book Bitten, by Stanford science writer Kris Newby, lays this out in detail. )

I wonder what TPTB plan to do with all the long-haulers .... are they planning to launch a similar campaign to discredit them and make them all appear to be hysterical? Is there even a plan, at this point?

Dyin', you're right -- living with a disabling illness is almost worse than dying in a lot of cases. I've been fortunate enough to still be able to function, but regular life really takes a lot more effort than it should.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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Hi All --

Thanks for the great links. Props to the staff of that Walmart ... they handled that situation really well. I'd hate to be in that position. Anti-maskers are really losing their shit.

Congrats to all who have quit smoking, whatever method you used. Vaping was the ONLY thing that ever gave me long term success. I actually still vape ... I'm pretty sure I could quit that if I tried, but don't want to at this point in time. It's my only remaining vice, and I plan to enjoy it. I have had the very occasional cigarette in the years since I quit them... and honestly, I don't enjoy smoking at all now.

We don't have enough data to really see long-term effects of this virus. Early indications are that it does lasting damage in some people ... but honestly, it'll be years before we can say for sure what the longterm effects are. Anecdotal reports strongly indicate that a lot of people are remaining unwell after the initial infection. Those of us with FM/CFS/Lyme etc. can tell you that having a chronically dysregulated immune system is potentially extremely disabling.

As for that wack interpretation of the CDC numbers.... y'all have already said what I was thinking. Most people have some kind of pre-existing condition that could be considered a comorbidity. Those comorbidities would not be fatal, though, without the COVID in the pictue. 'Nuff said. And I am also really sick of people talking about death as the only thing to worry about with this virus. But, you can't reason with people who are convinced this is all a hoax. They will find ways to hold on to that belief, no matter what.

The worldwide protests are bizarre. Interestingly, a lot of the people interviewed from the protests are Q followers. The Q thing is far reaching, indeed ... probably one of the most brilliant psy-ops ever run.
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What about those of us who don't think this is a hoax, I don't think Bill Gates and 5g are plotting to kill the world, I don't think there isn't a virus and I don't think it's just another flu but I have looked at the numbers and what's out there and I can't say I'm down the rabbit hole with the its gona kill us all crew.
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:thumper:

It isn’t just another influenza or rhinovirus. Y’all be reading into the CDC’s change and you are the ones that don’t even trust the government.

I only care that folks don’t let their guards down. The damage is already done .... even if the virus went away tomorrow, there are enough infected that the lingering issues are still going to present problems for society.

However, we know the virus isn’t going away. And you still can’t differentiate between just a discussion with prudent measures, hyperbole for the frustrating moments of the stoopid, and fear mongering.

It trips me out that you think that I am a demon and evil. Like in a, I am very sorry for your soul. Because if you really studied, you would know that no evil would be allowed into your life.... but mmmmm, here I am.....

BoO!
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Ok, expert fear monger

Fear No Evil

Nobody is a demon, demons can only influence minds

Satan was a master at influencing people’s minds and a master at spreading fear.

Thanks to our Lord Savior Jesus Christ most do not need to worry about outside influences.
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On a side note there are alot of religious nuts on here, probably the biggest conspiracy on this forum is religion and that's sayin something cus there are some bat shit crazy threads
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The heart issues thing has apparently been retracted, flawed studies or something similar. The headlines been on apple news for the last few days but it’s behind the paywall so haven’t read the detail.
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AFAIK these are not retracted but please correct if I am wrong... The last paper particular is from nature.com and has been downloaded 194k times and cited in 8 more papers.



Attacks HEART CELLS directly:
[link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]
Date: June 30, 2020
"We not only uncovered that these stem cell-derived heart cells are susceptible to infection by novel coronavirus, but that the virus can also quickly divide within the heart muscle cells," "Even more significant, the infected heart cells showed changes in their ability to beat after 72 hours of infection."


Evades the Immune system, like HIV
Basically, the virus pulls the "suicide flag protein" MHC-I back inside the cells using its own "ORF-8" protein.
[link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
The ORF8 Protein of SARS-CoV-2 Mediates Immune Evasion through Potently Downregulating MHC-I
Here, we show that the viral protein encoded from open reading frame 8 (ORF8) of SARS-CoV-2… can directly interact with MHC-I molecules and significantly down-regulates their surface expression on various cell types.

In the ORF8-expressing cells, MHC-I molecules are selectively target for lysosomal degradation by an autophagy-dependent mechanism. As a result, CTLs inefficiently eliminate the ORF8-expressing cells. Our results demonstrate that ORF8 protein disrupts antigen presentation and reduces the recognition and the elimination of virus-infected cells by CTLs


Scientists warn of potential wave of COVID-linked brain damage
Scientists warned on Wednesday of a potential wave of coronavirus-related brain damage as new evidence suggested COVID-19 can lead to severe neurological complications, including inflammation, psychosis and delirium.

A study by researchers at University College London (UCL) described 43 cases of patients with COVID-19 who suffered either temporary brain dysfunction, strokes, nerve damage or other serious brain effects.

“My worry is that we have millions of people with COVID-19 now. And if in a year’s time we have 10 million recovered people, and those people have cognitive deficits … then that’s going to affect their ability to work and their ability to go about activities of daily living,”

“Given that the disease has only been around for a matter of months, we might not yet know what long-term damage COVID-19 can cause,” said Ross Paterson, who co-led the study.


Neuro-Invasiveness - attacks Central Nervous System
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Although COVID-19 is considered to be primarily a respiratory disease, SARS-CoV-2 affects multiple organ systems including the central nervous system (CNS). Reports indicate that 30-60% of patients with COVID-19 suffer from CNS symptoms. Yet, there is no consensus whether the virus can infect the brain, or what the consequences of infection are. Following SARS-CoV-2 infection of human brain organoids, clear evidence of infection was observed, with accompanying metabolic changes in the infected and neighboring neurons. Further, no evidence for the type I interferon responses was detected. We demonstrate that neuronal infection can be prevented either by blocking ACE2 with antibodies or by administering cerebrospinal fluid from a COVID-19 patient. Finally, using mice overexpressing human ACE2, we demonstrate in vivo that SARS-CoV-2 neuroinvasion, but not respiratory infection, is associated with mortality. These results provide evidence for the neuroinvasive capacity of SARS-CoV2, and an unexpected consequence of direct infection of neurons by SARS-CoV2.


Damages Central Nervous System: neuronal injury commonly found in COVID-19
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We show neurochemical evidence of neuronal injury and glial activation in patients with moderate and severe COVID-19. Further studies are needed to clarify the frequency and nature of COVID-19- related CNS damage, and its relation to both clinically-defined CNS events such as hypoxic and ischemic events and to mechanisms more closely linked to systemic SARS-CoV-2 infection and consequent immune activation.



Extrapulmonary manifestations of COVID-19
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Although COVID-19 is most well known for causing substantial respiratory pathology, it can also result in several extrapulmonary manifestations. These conditions include thrombotic complications, myocardial dysfunction and arrhythmia, acute coronary syndromes, acute kidney injury, gastrointestinal symptoms, hepatocellular injury, hyperglycemia and ketosis, neurologic illnesses, ocular symptoms, and dermatologic complications. Given that ACE2, the entry receptor for the causative coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, is expressed in multiple extrapulmonary tissues, direct viral tissue damage is a plausible mechanism of injury. In addition, endothelial damage and thromboinflammation, dysregulation of immune responses, and maladaptation of ACE2-related pathways might all contribute to these extrapulmonary manifestations of COVID-19. Here we review the extrapulmonary organ-specific pathophysiology, presentations and management considerations for patients with COVID-19.
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Sneaky Centralized Quarantine

Colleges With Covid Outbreaks Advised to Keep Students on Campus

consensus is building among public health experts that it’s better to keep university students on campus after a Covid-19 outbreak rather than send them home as many are doing.

It’s easier to isolate sick or exposed students and trace their contacts if they stay put, said Ravina Kullar, epidemiologist and spokesperson for Infectious Diseases Society of America.

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now wheer did i hear such crazy plans before? hmmmmmm
yep. school campuses nobody goes home. do not infect the working "parents".
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Aren't there school districts that have drawn up plans for overnight emergency bag or something last week? In case parents can't go get them due to whatever is going on
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I saw that posted on the main board. However, the source was a CDC General Emergency Prep page. I didn’t interpret it as anything specific to Covid.
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214 coronavirus deaths briefly disappear from glitchy Iowa website

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Texas testing backlog: Dozens of labs still unable to report data, officials say

Texas recently revealed a backlog of more than half a million tests, but there are still dozens of labs, including hospitals, unable to report.

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Deep-dive in terms of a news article.

COVID-19 deaths show no sign of decline | Data Deep Dive

LOUISVILLE, Ky. — In Indiana, about 3% of those with the virus have passed away and in Kentucky, about 2% did not survive.

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U.S. Coronavirus Rates Are Rising Fast Among Children

...data compiled by the American Academy of Pediatrics from the summer show that cases, hospitalizations and deaths from the coronavirus have increased at a faster rate in children and teenagers than among the general public.

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New Zealand lifts Auckland coronavirus lockdown

WELLINGTON: Schools across Auckland reopened Monday as New Zealand's largest city emerged from lockdown, with Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern expressing confidence a second-wave outbreak of coronavirus was under control.

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U.S. Records Smallest Daily Increase in Coronavirus Cases in a Week

The pandemic is showing signs of easing in hard-hit states California and Florida

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Coughing the new locker stuffing?

School bans ‘malicious coughing’ under new coronavirus rules

Teachers have been warned to expect an increase in bad behaviour as pupils return to classrooms.

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Preliminary Report

SARS-CoV-2 infects human pluripotent stem cell-derived cardiomyocytes, impairing electrical and mechanical function

...COVID-19-related cardiac symptoms likely result from a direct cardiotoxic effect of SARS-CoV-2. Long-term cardiac complications might be possible sequelae in patients who recover from this illness.

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I wish they would talk about the possibilities of being disabled for the rest of your life if you catch this thing.

I already have had a DVT and it had certainly affected my quality of life. And I have a desk job so it's even worse cuz sitting makes swelling go up which then makes it hard to walk or be as mobile as I need to be.

Been about 4 years since diagnosis and I can't even imagine where I'll be in another 5....

Unless someone has had an active life taken away from them they will never understand how having a chronic condition is almost worse than just dying straight away.

"Covid has a 99.9% survival rate!!!*"

**Disclaimer: all covid infections come with long term complications including but not limited to: blood clots, kidney disease, liver problems, heart disease, bone marrow in your bloodstream, brain swelling, shortness of breath, low blood oxgen levels leading to sepsis and organ failure, mental conditions such as schizophrenia and/or bi-polar and/or depression/anxiety/insomnia, extreme fatigue for months, lingering cough, onset of diabetes, possible lung transplants**
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Hugs and prayers. Thank you for sharing.

Normalcy bias. And even if their normal life is taken away.... they may feel too much shame to talk about. Just take the most recent actor with cancer and his death. He deleted his social media versus explaining his weight loss.
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Just found out a person I went to high school with just died from COVID. Not overweight, no health issues.

She has always been a very sweet person.
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Coughing the new locker stuffing?

School bans ‘malicious coughing’ under new coronavirus rules

Teachers have been warned to expect an increase in bad behaviour as pupils return to classrooms.

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**disclaimer...not directed at Guythu. This wonderful person is appreciated for constantly bringing the poop that we sift through and discuss.**

“Warned to expect an increase in bad behavior”

There is so much duh in this statement. It is a longterm, most likely permanently life altering time period. And as we have seen adults acting out....I can’t even fathom the children of said adults.

It would also be sad, but a need to understand if covid19 does the same brain changes.... ie the coughing, spitting, bitting.... in children.
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Just found out a person I went to high school with just died from COVID. Not overweight, no health issues.

She has always been a very sweet person.
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Hugs and prayers.

May her friends and family celebrate her life. And see again on the other side.
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Summarizer -- thank you for all the great articles. Really helpful compilation. I have read a number of articles about how much damage SARS-Cov-2 does to the heart ... one of the major studies was brought under scrutiny and was corrected, but it actually didn't change the overall findings very much. It was sloppy science (you know it's sloppy when a top tier journal publishes something that is then spotted as incorrect by a journalist!) Still, the general consensus is that it does a real number on the heart in particular, as well as causing major problems in other organs, largely due to the vascular nature of the disease. Also, a number of studies are pointing out the extent of CNS involvement.

I don't know what to make of these data -- there seem to be a lot of contradictions in what we are seeing and reading. If Texas is as back-logged as it appears, that accounts for some of the overall case decline. I don't know about CA ... we've had our share of reporting problems, but I'd love to think we've peaked (for now) and infections are on the way down. I rather doubt it, though ... a lot of people here have been much more concerned about fire this past week or two than we have about COVID, and I suspect people just haven't been getting tested. A lot of people had to evacuate, and thus stayed with friends, or in hotels (they tried to avoid using shelters) -- but I suspect that will also increase spread.

I do know that my little city (it's not that little -- almost 80 thousand people) is actually showing an increase in new cases, and in the rate of new cases, though we're still doing a lot better than the rest of the Bay Area.

Frankly, with all the back and forth regarding how things are reported, and to whom, it casts a lot of doubt on all the numbers.
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LJS -- I am very sorry to hear about your friend! My condolences on your loss, and my heart goes out to her loved ones all around.

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Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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Hawaii seems to be struggling lately.

Due to mislabeling, about 1,000 Oahu residents told to re-test for COVID-19

HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - In the latest coronavirus blunder, officials say about 1,000 people will need to get re-tested because vials weren’t labeled.

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**it’s an opinion piece. However, it is more disturbing that this research is actually happening.....**

Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for COVID-19

Some scientists are self-administering an untested product. Is that legal? Is it ethical?

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Birx urges Minnesota to 'buckle down' on COVID-19 before winter

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Temple University suspends in-person classes for two weeks.... over 100 active infections

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Just an interesting QA with venture capitalists (Berlin) on how covid19 is changing the startup world

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First Daily Surveillance of Emerging COVID-19 Hotspots in the United States

Hotspots have trended towards smaller but more numerous clusters since the pandemic started.

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Clusters via timeline
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Ames, Iowa has the worst outbreak.....and they are just now opening an testing site there.....

Fuckity fuck.

Guythu.....see Ohua ain’t the only bumble :)

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LJS -- I am very sorry to hear about your friend! My condolences on your loss, and my heart goes out to her loved ones all around.
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Thank you.

Have not seen her since HS, but maintained contact on FB.
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Birx urges Minnesota to 'buckle down' on COVID-19 before winter

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Northern tier states are going to get bad this winter. At least down here we can open windows and air things out with turning the entire family into popsicles.
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Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315
Just found out a person I went to high school with just died from COVID. Not overweight, no health issues.

She has always been a very sweet person.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Sorry to hear that, LJS. Even if you weren't close, it still hits home when it's someone you know.

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