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I think they are going to try to find the “immune” or the opposite which should have been done in the beginning.... neither is good, so it’s time to start putting turning off cells phones (in public) and putting them in the shielded bags.

The first test was in NY.... remember. So what is the goal for this test?
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Article is from July 15th
 Quoting: Guythu



Here..now it is closer to real.

Dr. Anthony Fauci says designating quarantine spaces for students who test positive for Covid-19 is key to safely opening colleges

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And for Ohio, it is here
[link to coronavirus.ohio.gov (secure)]

Thread: In the middle of the night, @GovMikeDeWine and @OHdeptofhealth signed an order creating FEMA camps to isolate asymptomatic high risk exposed.. (Page 2)
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I saw that this morning and kept going back to reread it. So, is this just for the students or are they planning to put Mrs. Smith from down the street in a dorm room if necessary? All of the different posters were distracting to me when I read it. Maybe not enough coffee this morning.
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 Quoting: dyin


Haha. I literally just posted it a few mins ago.
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That is crazy, at least it's not winter I guess....??

I can't even imagine the chaos that would happen if the grid went down at this point in time. Everyone is so worked up over everything as it is with the political climate... Can you imagine if they can't have their daily addiction of FB??

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Illinois did a backlog dump of 100,000 tests today which resulted in about 4,000 cases and Texas dumped about 1,500.

So in reality it's roughly inline with what we saw all week.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Wordsworth, why is it a nothingburger when a state trickle dumps it's data? Infected is infected.

Whether they do it real time or a month later, can't we agree that it distorts public view as well as important data that epidemiologist need to analyze spread?
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It's relevant in regards to if there's a trend going in one way or another.

50k cases today if not due to a data dump could be a signal of an upswing... but in reality those cases were a backlog spread out over a month which makes them statistically insigfnifcant.
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Haha. I literally just posted it a few mins ago.
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That is crazy, at least it's not winter I guess....??

I can't even imagine the chaos that would happen if the grid went down at this point in time. Everyone is so worked up over everything as it is with the political climate... Can you imagine if they can't have their daily addiction of FB??

000hN00mrbill
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Well if you look on the bright side of things. We wouldn't have to worry about the virus after 30 to 40 days after the grid goes down.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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hf
Life finds a way.
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Goofy Thum
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Darth a suggestion.If you can get some old round hay bales. Till that into the soil. Straw hay bales are an excellent way to add nitrogen to soils.Till it in right before winter for next spring planting.
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I am doing something similar, but not per a plan.

When I put out round bales for the cows and horse, I put each one in an area that I want to plant later.

The cows lay on the hay while adding manure and urine. They spoil a portion of every bale I buy.

However, it it pretty easy to spread the ruined hay with the front end loader blade and then plow it in.

Like I said earlier, livestock really help with the gardening. Synergy!

Once again, thanks for the great suggestions.
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 Quoting: dyin


Haha. I literally just posted it a few mins ago.
 Quoting: Guythu


That is crazy, at least it's not winter I guess....??

I can't even imagine the chaos that would happen if the grid went down at this point in time. Everyone is so worked up over everything as it is with the political climate... Can you imagine if they can't have their daily addiction of FB??

000hN00mrbill
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While I am not an expert, I was an aerospace engineer working on defense projects where I was briefed on EMP.

You can create the equivalent of EMP locally by hitting power transmission cables with a device powered by conventional explosives. A reasonable amount of explosive can shut down a sector of a grid.

However, large areas to EMP can only be performed with nukes.

Launching nukes for anything can rapidly escalate to all out thermonukey war. Even the Norks know that is suicidal.

Sooo, I don't worry about EMP much. Cyber attacks, physical attacks on substations, cutting down towers, etc. are far more feasible.

If something like that happened now, I think the fedgov would suspect Pantifa before the Chicoms.

The thing I always was most concerned about was a stealthy bio attack.

Perhaps that is what we are going through?

The primary hypothesis at this time seems to be:

Chicom lab was trying to make deadly bugs, perhaps stealthy ones.

Bugs escaped.

Chicoms realized that they had screwed up and decided to share their doom with everyone on the planet.

A stupid decision in the long run. No one will have sympathy for them. Defectors will eventually tell the truth. Chicom propaganda machine will spin its wheels trying to blame anyone but themselves.

I worry less about war with China right now. They screwed up their economy along with everyone else's. Without hard currency to buy food, they are weaker, not stronger.
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I have considered that.

I have an order in for some worms, but they have to wait for cooler weather to ship them.

Biggest thing my land needs is SAND or something to improve permeability.

Its "black gumbo" clay and the clay subsoil is only about a foot down.

Actually, its crappy soil, but we persevere.
 Quoting: darth


The best dirt I ever had in Texas was in base housing, because of the weekly yard inspections our beds had to be perfect.

When we moved out to the country, I thought we would have good dirt because the previous owners had lots of horses and FHA animals. Nope, to much urine and not enough manure. To make it worse it was all caliche. For you poor, underprivileged people that were never in west Texas, that stuff is harder than diamonds when dry and slippery than snot when wet. It'll suck you in like quick sand when the monsoon season sets in. Your tools better be knife sharp when you start and you'll be sharpening again before you're done.

I had some good results mixing the beds with peat moss to soften it up, but the stuff has gotten really expensive since then. If you have, or can get, some rotten straw, after you're done with a section, dig it in real well. The more the better. Let it sit til spring to compost in. You can add your hot manure at the same time, just give it a season off. The straw really helped me break up the caliche, it should work on your clay.

Another thing my folks swore by, is manure tea around the plants. I had to go to my neighbor to get the cow patties, but you already have them. Put one or two in a five gallon bucket and fill with water. Let it sit out in the sun for a day or two and then pour it around your plants. It's the best stuff! Be careful with tobacco near your tomato plants, though. Tomatoes don't like it.
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Things I have used to improve my clay:

1. Hugulkultur. Dug trenches 4 feet wide, 18 inches deep, and up to 100 feet long. Filled with rotten logs, brush, wood chips, and whatever came to hand. Manure would have been good, but did not have it. Buried a dead dog, a couple of cows, and a load of fish from a freezer that died.

2. Added ag lime, gypsum which is reputed to break up clay, NPK fertilizer, and wood chips. The NPK is to help break down the chips.

3. Daikon radishes. Did not get a crop because the cows ate the tops, but they are reputed to break up clay by sending down big tap roots that later decompose.

Best strategy seems to be planting low demand veggies such as okra, sunflowers, melons, etc. I only add the purchased soil in the hole where I plant the high demand veggies.
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Dang! That is some TOUGH clay! I don't know about the dead dog and the cows, but everything should've helped! I used most of it, too! LoL

I've got nothing else, except keep at it. Maybe call Neil Sperry's (sp?) radio show this weekend and ask him. He's the guy that wrote The Texas Gardener. I think that's the name. The old book has a cowboy boot on the cover. He's very good.

The only other solution is too expensive and probably not very smart. Dig out the old and replace it all with new. Not a good solution, I know.

How long have you been gardening in that spot?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I don't have that book, but I have read quite a bit on how to improve clay soil.

Some experts say just that, "Dig it out and haul in good soil". I did that partially with 21 cubic yards of garden soil I purchased last Spring as one of my first preps.

It helped, but it was not enough for the garden I wanted. Used it sparingly around my plants and in holes that I planted.

I have tried sand, but like someone commented, it has to be coarse sand. That stuff is expensive too.

Wood chips helped...until they decomposed. But I am wary of putting too much carbon in the soil and not enough nitrogen to decompose it.

My BEST soil is where my chicken yard was for over 4 years. I did not put sand in there, but somehow sand IS there. I think they add sand to the laying mash to help digest food.

The problem with the chicken yard is that it has big oak and pecan trees shading most of it. We grew some great veggies on the portion that got sun.

However, when the leaves fall, that area that was shaded can be planted to winter veggies such as turnips and beets.

Long term solution is to keep adding compost and wood chips while running chickens and cows on the land. They prepare it better than I can.
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I mentioned earlier in the thread the plan that I think is tried and true for you gardeners:

My Grandma raised and fed 6 kids off about one half acre. She rotated chickens and ducks on three fenced yards. Planted two while the birds cleaned and fertilized the other.

I don't think she EVER bought fertilizer nor did she buy much chicken feed. She grew sunflowers which she dried and fed to her birds along with waste vegetables and such.

No tractor or tiller, hand tools only.

She had a milk cow as well in a rented pasture three miles away. She walked there and back twice a day carrying the milk home. That's walking TWELVE MILES every day, rain or shine, in the Texas heat and cold in Winter.

She weighed about 110 lbs. soaking wet but had endless energy.

What women we descend from!
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Darth a suggestion.If you can get some old round hay bales. Till that into the soil. Straw hay bales are an excellent way to add nitrogen to soils.Till it in right before winter for next spring planting.
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This Darth. Like I said before, you can dig it in with your manure over the winter. The more old straw you can get in there, the better. Like Nef said, it'll break down. Only thing is, you're going to have to keep mixing in straw in the dirt for a long time to break that clay up.

About the only advice other Texans gave me when I started, was amend, amend, amend. They said I would always have to keep doing it.
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"Horseshit!"

I started a garden plot in Texas a few years back...
Outside of town on the SW side was a horse farm that advertised "free horse manure".

It turned out to be several years old and mixed in with composted straw and sawdust.

I used a lot of this in my compost pile and spread on the garden. It was like Jack and the giant beanstalk. I set up the drip irrigation system to water at the same time every day.
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INDIA HAS REACHED OVER 4.000.000 CASES!

INDIA HAS GLOBAL DAY INCREASE RECORDS AND ITS GOING LIKE A FAST TRAIN
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damned

Its going very fast & bad in India :


- On 02 sepetember: India Broke the Daily increase record for any country
with 82 862 new cases and 1 026 new deaths in 1 day!!

- On 3 september: India reported 84,156 new cases of coronavirus, a global record, and 1,083 new deaths

- yesterday: India reported 87,115 new cases of coronavirus, a global record, and 1,066 new deaths

India has now also reached over 4.000.000 CASES NOW !!


[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]

pray for India ....

damned

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Well guys, it looks bleak.

All home office equipment to be upgraded at a huge cost, offices closed to most staff for most of next year but then on a rolling basis year by year, reassessments to be taken.

Reading between the lines for such expense, and guidance to be changed and issued, ten years wouldn't be unexpected.

Also explains some of the - by October order - most of this would have been on old equipment with additional issues for an October changeover with being offline for perhaps a week while it is all set up and connected.


In other news though, don't worry, everything is normal, there are Christmas displays in the stores.
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Because damn.... the crows could replace us :)

Crow Art. This is wow.

https://imgur.com/a/yEjyBPz



Call me old fashioned but the crows are telling them to drink the pine.

Q: Whats so good about pine needle tea?

A: It is rich in vitamin C (5 times the concentration of vitamin C found in lemons) and can bring relief to conditions such as heart disease, varicose veins, skin complaints and fatigue

Vitamin C is also an immune system booster which means that pine needle tea can help to fight illness and infections.

Pine needle tea also contains high levels of Vitamin A, which is good for your eyesight, improves hair and skin regeneration and improves red blood cell production.

It can be used as an expectorant for coughs and to help relieve chest congestion; it is also good for sore throats.

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Crows are even more clever than anyone realized...
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Darth, the best garden I've ever had was lots of manure topped with peanut hulls. The more mulch, be it wood chips, straw, hay, coffe grounds, whatever, the better. 4 inches of fine mulch is awesome.

I'm not walking six miles for milk. That's like walking 10 miles to school uphill both ways in the snow.

On the EMP thing....there have been tons of articles since late March warning of grid shut downs. I think it'll be rolling power outages.

I like to be wrong.

Little rant because I need to get this off my chest. Normalcy bias is so dang pervasive. Hubby says, "Man. If one had a good amount of money, investing in the film industry would be the thing to do, because Hollywood is dead."

What?????

Smh.

In other news, got a new hoe and rake.
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Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.

Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure.
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Looks like the reinfected list could go up and additional 50%


Mumbai: Four resident doctors suspected to be `reinfected’ by Covid

Asked why the cases are being described as "suspected" reinfection, a senior doctor from Sion Hospital said, "As of today, we only know that these four resident doctors have tested positive for COVID-19 again. It is possible that they were never cured of the first infection.

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Good morning, beautiful souls.

Float on.
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Well guys, it looks bleak.

All home office equipment to be upgraded at a huge cost, offices closed to most staff for most of next year but then on a rolling basis year by year, reassessments to be taken.

Reading between the lines for such expense, and guidance to be changed and issued, ten years wouldn't be unexpected.

Also explains some of the - by October order - most of this would have been on old equipment with additional issues for an October changeover with being offline for perhaps a week while it is all set up and connected.


In other news though, don't worry, everything is normal, there are Christmas displays in the stores.
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That doesn’t sound good.
Facebook and some other companies here in the states are having most employees working from home until at least July
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Hundreds more have died at home in L.A. Experts say COVID-19 is the culprit

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Looks like the reinfected list could go up and additional 50%


Mumbai: Four resident doctors suspected to be `reinfected’ by Covid

Asked why the cases are being described as "suspected" reinfection, a senior doctor from Sion Hospital said, "As of today, we only know that these four resident doctors have tested positive for COVID-19 again. It is possible that they were never cured of the first infection.

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FP...... hugs and prayers. Rants are a sanity keeper. Awesome new tools.

....oh good grief on the article....

“It is possible that they were never cured of the first infection.”

Either scenario is bad. But here we go..... the next level to the continuing saga of China Virus is Asshole.
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Well guys, it looks bleak.

All home office equipment to be upgraded at a huge cost, offices closed to most staff for most of next year but then on a rolling basis year by year, reassessments to be taken.

Reading between the lines for such expense, and guidance to be changed and issued, ten years wouldn't be unexpected.

Also explains some of the - by October order - most of this would have been on old equipment with additional issues for an October changeover with being offline for perhaps a week while it is all set up and connected.


In other news though, don't worry, everything is normal, there are Christmas displays in the stores.
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That doesn’t sound good.
Facebook and some other companies here in the states are having most employees working from home until at least July
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Apple corporate

Google

The list is long
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Hundreds more have died at home in L.A. Experts say COVID-19 is the culprit

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GLP Knew.....
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I searched this thread for this study. However, surprising, it doesn’t seem to have been posted.

Asymtimatic Droppers?

Syncope as the presenting symptom of COVID-19 infection

We report a case series of syncope as the presenting symptom in otherwise asymptomatic patients with COVID-19 infection.

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Probably more than 3 questions.
But this is from Nature.

Coronavirus reinfections: three questions scientists are asking

Second infections raise questions about long-term immunity to COVID-19 and the prospects for a vaccine.

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Just look at the image. She is all nice and protected in her mask & shield. And besides the angle..... something irked me.

Oh motherfucking hell..... there is a coffee mug and water bottle on her desk. This is normalcy bias at work. There is no safe way to drink from either of those ..... in an office setting.
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Good morning, beautiful souls.

Float on.
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Good morning, yes will just be floating today, probably. :)
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Good morning, beautiful souls.

Float on.
 Quoting: CleverCreator



Good morning, CC, and everyone else.
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
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EMP attack scheduled for Sept 20, 2020 USA has it all planned out! Going to blame it on China, just like Corona! Then lots of people in hospitals going to die, infections will double with no electrical grid in USA. Time to say bye-bye USA!!!!!!
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EMP attack scheduled for Sept 20, 2020 USA has it all planned out! Going to blame it on China, just like Corona! Then lots of people in hospitals going to die, infections will double with no electrical grid in USA. Time to say bye-bye USA!!!!!!
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And you know this how, if I may ask?
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
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I searched this thread for this study. However, surprising, it doesn’t seem to have been posted.

Asymtimatic Droppers?

Syncope as the presenting symptom of COVID-19 infection

We report a case series of syncope as the presenting symptom in otherwise asymptomatic patients with COVID-19 infection.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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Hmmm ... Case 4.

Think I’m going to back off some on the quinine for a while.





GLP