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'95% of Karachi’s Covid-19 patients asymptomatic'

Experts say this high ratio explains why Pakistan's health system did not face severe strain

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First batch of Russian COVID-19 vaccine released into public

On Sunday, Moscow Mayor Sergey Sobyanin expressed hope that the majority of the Russian capital's residents would be vaccinated against the coronavirus within several months.

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First batch of Russian COVID-19 vaccine released into public

On Sunday, Moscow Mayor Sergey Sobyanin expressed hope that the majority of the Russian capital's residents would be vaccinated against the coronavirus within several months.

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Optimism Shall Prevail among World Leaders

This Will Prove as Pointless and Useless as the Vaccines being released
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'95% of Karachi’s Covid-19 patients asymptomatic'

Experts say this high ratio explains why Pakistan's health system did not face severe strain

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That won’t end well.....
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Mexico registers 122,765 ‘excess deaths’, study says.

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Dutchy .... your numbers are calling ;)
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Hmm 122k upto Aug 1st, at which point they had recorded 46k official covid deaths. Not sure how much reporting lag there is in Mexico, but that would mean a ~200% under count of deaths if we exclude other factors. If we account for overburdened healthcare etc that might put them slightly lower but not a whole lot.

They currently record ~20k deaths per month, so move that up to 40-60k easily, puts them at ~1.3-2k daily deaths since beginning of June.

Pretty severe bump up from other countries I've looked at, depending on recording standards the under count in the west is 25-75% with some exceptions.

ETA: This puts mexico in the 6-24 (2%-.5% mortality rate) million cases, where I would expect it to be 6-12m (2-1%) based on healthcare availability etc. Population is about 126m, cases reported total ~640k so roughly 1:10 to 1:40 cases are reported with 5-20% of population infected.

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Hope they all had a great time...

The Contagion Externality of a Superspreading Event: The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally and COVID-19

...estimates show that following the Sturgis event, counties that contributed the highest inflows of rally attendees experienced a 7.0 to 12.5 percent increase in COVID-19 cases relative to counties that did not contribute inflows.

We conclude that the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally generated public health costs of approximately $12.2 billion.

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Hope they all had a great time...

The Contagion Externality of a Superspreading Event: The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally and COVID-19

...estimates show that following the Sturgis event, counties that contributed the highest inflows of rally attendees experienced a 7.0 to 12.5 percent increase in COVID-19 cases relative to counties that did not contribute inflows.

We conclude that the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally generated public health costs of approximately $12.2 billion.

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From the PDF..

..based on the statistical cost of a COVID-19 case of $46,000 estimated by Kniesner and Sullivan (2020).
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Mexico registers 122,765 ‘excess deaths’, study says.

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Dutchy .... your numbers are calling ;)
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Hmm 122k upto Aug 1st, at which point they had recorded 46k official covid deaths. Not sure how much reporting lag there is in Mexico, but that would mean a ~200% under count of deaths if we exclude other factors. If we account for overburdened healthcare etc that might put them slightly lower but not a whole lot.

They currently record ~20k deaths per month, so move that up to 40-60k easily, puts them at ~1.3-2k daily deaths since beginning of June.

Pretty severe bump up from other countries I've looked at, depending on recording standards the under count in the west is 25-75% with some exceptions.
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'95% of Karachi’s Covid-19 patients asymptomatic'

Experts say this high ratio explains why Pakistan's health system did not face severe strain

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That won’t end well.....
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Actual study here:


Serial population based serosurvey of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in a low and high transmission area of Karachi, Pakistan
[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]
Article is pre-print and not yet peer-reviewed

One of the reasons I hate these studies is their ambiguity in definitions:

Those reporting fever with or without respiratory symptoms in the previous two months were categorized as symptomatic.

Of the total 166 participants who tested positive, only 9 (5.4%) gave a history of any symptoms

So do we carry the prior definition of symptoms as being fever with or without respiratory symptoms? Also note that in the article this is hardly mentioned because of the above numbers. We are talking about a study of n=2000 selected from 406 households where 166 tested positive for antibodies in a city of 15 million, extrapolating the results is ridiculous.

What is telling given these conditions, in that they tested whole households, is that they found: Seroprevalence in children was not different from that seen in adults and elderly. ... Our study found that children might be infected at a rate similar to adults. This may be due to the household nature of our survey during school closure, where we were powered better for the pediatric population compared to other studies.

Given the lack of clarity of what they deemed to be symptomatic and asymptomatic in the actual study the article is pretty sensationalized but that is normal these days. No real 'strong' conclusions here.
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Indiana bars to be allowed to re-open today.

25% capacity indoor seating
50% capacity outdoor seating

Also, roads that have been closed to allow bar-hopping areas such as Mass Ave and Broad Ripple to extend seating into the street will be re-opened, taking that option away from bars.

I keep repeating this until I'm blue in the face:

NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE MARCH! The virus is still out there and spreading. There is no vaccine; there is no cure; there is no immunity. The *only* change is that hospitals might have a slightly better grasp on treatment options.

Why would any intelligent person expect different results by relaxing restrictions when the variables have not changed????

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Indiana bars to be allowed to re-open today.

25% capacity indoor seating
50% capacity outdoor seating

Also, roads that have been closed to allow bar-hopping areas such as Mass Ave and Broad Ripple to extend seating into the street will be re-opened, taking that option away from bars.

I keep repeating this until I'm blue in the face:

NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE MARCH! The virus is still out there and spreading. There is no vaccine; there is no cure; there is no immunity. The *only* change is that hospitals might have a slightly better grasp on treatment options.

Why would any intelligent person expect different results by relaxing restrictions when the variables have not changed????

I want off this planet. There is no intelligent life here.
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Sorry. Their “variable” is lack of sales tax and lowered positivity rate. Uncommon sense doesn’t come into play.

I am still waiting to see them try to have Santa at the mall. In a mask. I mean I am half expecting private Santa parties to appear.
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'95% of Karachi’s Covid-19 patients asymptomatic'

Experts say this high ratio explains why Pakistan's health system did not face severe strain

[link to tribune.com.pk (secure)]
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That won’t end well.....
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Actual study here:


Serial population based serosurvey of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in a low and high transmission area of Karachi, Pakistan
[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]
Article is pre-print and not yet peer-reviewed

One of the reasons I hate these studies is their ambiguity in definitions:

Those reporting fever with or without respiratory symptoms in the previous two months were categorized as symptomatic.

Of the total 166 participants who tested positive, only 9 (5.4%) gave a history of any symptoms

So do we carry the prior definition of symptoms as being fever with or without respiratory symptoms? Also note that in the article this is hardly mentioned because of the above numbers. We are talking about a study of n=2000 selected from 406 households where 166 tested positive for antibodies in a city of 15 million, extrapolating the results is ridiculous.

What is telling given these conditions, in that they tested whole households, is that they found: Seroprevalence in children was not different from that seen in adults and elderly. ... Our study found that children might be infected at a rate similar to adults. This may be due to the household nature of our survey during school closure, where we were powered better for the pediatric population compared to other studies.

Given the lack of clarity of what they deemed to be symptomatic and asymptomatic in the actual study the article is pretty sensationalized but that is normal these days. No real 'strong' conclusions here.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


As always... thanks.

Even without the study ;) it still doesn’t bode well. Our worldly science be sucking some serious eggs lately.
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I feel really bad for the souls that can’t focus on being a better person. There are millions upon millions that have suffered more and yet they don’t run around trying to destroy the day.

Well. This is another fun day.
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Pastor Says 12,000 People Attended Prayer Rally Outside California State Capitol

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'95% of Karachi’s Covid-19 patients asymptomatic'

Experts say this high ratio explains why Pakistan's health system did not face severe strain

[link to tribune.com.pk (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


That won’t end well.....
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Actual study here:


Serial population based serosurvey of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in a low and high transmission area of Karachi, Pakistan
[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]
Article is pre-print and not yet peer-reviewed

One of the reasons I hate these studies is their ambiguity in definitions:

Those reporting fever with or without respiratory symptoms in the previous two months were categorized as symptomatic.

Of the total 166 participants who tested positive, only 9 (5.4%) gave a history of any symptoms

So do we carry the prior definition of symptoms as being fever with or without respiratory symptoms? Also note that in the article this is hardly mentioned because of the above numbers. We are talking about a study of n=2000 selected from 406 households where 166 tested positive for antibodies in a city of 15 million, extrapolating the results is ridiculous.

What is telling given these conditions, in that they tested whole households, is that they found: Seroprevalence in children was not different from that seen in adults and elderly. ... Our study found that children might be infected at a rate similar to adults. This may be due to the household nature of our survey during school closure, where we were powered better for the pediatric population compared to other studies.

Given the lack of clarity of what they deemed to be symptomatic and asymptomatic in the actual study the article is pretty sensationalized but that is normal these days. No real 'strong' conclusions here.
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I would not discount the actual complexity of the virus which is about three times the common flu and has to include the RNA sequence that fixates iron oxide from hemoglobin to effect lethality , AND teh effects of this complex replication at higher altitudes.. if pakistan is different that may be why.

also anecdotal quinine and zinc use in low dose creates cellular chemical environment that inhibits to a large degree THIS COMPLEX , COMPLETE, REPLICATION , Need to make this Virus Lethal.. Get rid if that sequence , and it is non lethal..
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Let's see,

Sweden - 72 deaths in the past month w/ 10m poeple. 7,2 p/m.
Switzerland - 27 deaths in the past month w/ 8.5m people. 3,2 p/m.
UK - 492 deaths in the past month w/ 66.5m people. 7,4 p/m
Italy - 332 death in the past month w/ 60.5m people. 5,4 p/m
Germany - 127 deaths in the past month w/ 83m people. 1,5 p/m.

So yes! Finally after 6 months of extreme numbers Sweden is now finally doing better then the UK! Let's all do what they did....
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Let's see,

Sweden - 72 deaths in the past month w/ 10m poeple. 7,2 p/m.
Switzerland - 27 deaths in the past month w/ 8.5m people. 3,2 p/m.
UK - 492 deaths in the past month w/ 66.5m people. 7,4 p/m
Italy - 332 death in the past month w/ 60.5m people. 5,4 p/m
Germany - 127 deaths in the past month w/ 83m people. 1,5 p/m.

So yes! Finally after 6 months of extreme numbers Sweden is now finally doing better then the UK! Let's all do what they did....
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Depends on how you define extreme... their death rate is lower than the UK, Belgium, Spain, Italy, USA, and only a bit higher than France.

33 countries have a higher case rate per million population.

Are there places that did better? Sure... but there's a lot that did worse.

The question is... on a long enough timeline will all nations end up with a similar case rate unless they go full New Zealand and place the entire country under house arrest every time they find a single case?

My guess would be yes unless there's an effective vaccine.
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First batch of Russian COVID-19 vaccine released into public

On Sunday, Moscow Mayor Sergey Sobyanin expressed hope that the majority of the Russian capital's residents would be vaccinated against the coronavirus within several months.

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Optimism Shall Prevail among World Leaders

This Will Prove as Pointless and Useless as the Vaccines being released
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Indiana bars to be allowed to re-open today.

25% capacity indoor seating
50% capacity outdoor seating

Also, roads that have been closed to allow bar-hopping areas such as Mass Ave and Broad Ripple to extend seating into the street will be re-opened, taking that option away from bars.

I keep repeating this until I'm blue in the face:

NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE MARCH! The virus is still out there and spreading. There is no vaccine; there is no cure; there is no immunity. The *only* change is that hospitals might have a slightly better grasp on treatment options.

Why would any intelligent person expect different results by relaxing restrictions when the variables have not changed????

I want off this planet. There is no intelligent life here.
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Well I'll be damned. It's our very own CC. afro


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Oh look...... my cuteness was found.
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Zeph has now asked where did my curls go..... I had just passed 4 kidney stones so my body was still mad at me.

And then he made us watch it again so that original doggie could see himself.....

Heart Medicine.....

Zeph was 9 months old. We were in Safeway, in Arizona. The beanie dog was on the clearance shelf. So I told little man we would check the price.

We get to check out and the dog is outside my budget. I promised him that we would come back, on payday. And I apologized to him.

I start to pay and the clerk starts handing the doggie to Zeph. I tel, the clerk, I am sorry, but we can’t buy it today. There is a manager standing there, and he says that it’s a gift from them..... I hold myself together as I hand the dog to Zeph.....

This little man who has said not a single word, but signs and nods or shakes his head while understanding thousands of words.....

“Doggie!!!” The whole store heard him. It was damn cute. And that doggie is sitting on his table as I type this.

It is the little things that make life amazing.
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Zeph has now asked where did my curls go..... I had just passed 4 kidney stones so my body was still mad at me.

And then he made us watch it again so that original doggie could see himself.....

Heart Medicine.....

Zeph was 9 months old. We were in Safeway, in Arizona. The beanie dog was on the clearance shelf. So I told little man we would check the price.

We get to check out and the dog is outside my budget. I promised him that we would come back, on payday. And I apologized to him.

I start to pay and the clerk starts handing the doggie to Zeph. I tel, the clerk, I am sorry, but we can’t buy it today. There is a manager standing there, and he says that it’s a gift from them..... I hold myself together as I hand the dog to Zeph.....

This little man who has said not a single word, but signs and nods or shakes his head while understanding thousands of words.....

“Doggie!!!” The whole store heard him. It was damn cute. And that doggie is sitting on his table as I type this.

It is the little things that make life amazing.
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Bless you both. hf
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