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Nuclear war is unacceptable.
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:ironcurtain:
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Long Nasty Week ahead if it’s this bad already.
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Yup doomy week
But hey we got plenty visitors today :)
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Nuclear war is unacceptable.
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:ironcurtain:
 Quoting: antivirus201


Long Nasty Week ahead if it’s this bad already.
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Yup doomy week
But hey we got plenty visitors today :)
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hugs

I got to practice my Stand Firm and Spot a Troll..... feeling confident as we head into OH HOLY SHIT and Oh is it really November 3rd Already?!?!?

Riff, glad to hear Raffette staying home that week. Sounds like a great plan

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Yeah, no kidding, we're very far from actual Covid news, but we're rather witnessing bickering from ego-maniacs who think they they are somehow the masters of this thread. Too bad that DT gave up...
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He hasn't given up.

He made a very informational post a little while ago this a.m.

In between the daily tard fest between a few others on here.
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The AC is confusing putting true trolls into the light and not enough news in the day.

Plus have you folks never had just normal enjoyable conversation?

Good grief.

I love my little angry poof balls. I bet five scarves that France goes full martial law tonight. Oh Wednesday.... okay. Thanks Pillar
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1. Who is "you folks"?

2. Nothing enjoyable or informative about watching "YOU folks" implode.
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The problem with lockdowns is that they don’t confer any permanent benefits. As soon as the lockdowns are eased, infections ramp up again.

Worse, you can only lock things down so many times before you trigger economic and civilizational collapse.

We are really between a rock and a hard place. The only real solution is to lock things down permanently and accept economic and civilizational collapse as the cost of saving a few lives.

Or, we can do away with lockdowns altogether and live as normally as possible, but realize our time to live that way may be limited until collapse comes. In the meantime, we can quarantine and look after the vulnerable while letting everyone else get in with their lives.
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I disagree. I think with an 8-week full lockdown - and I mean FULL lockdown, as in nobody is on the streets except military and emergency services - combined with a complete shutdown of all foreign visitors, you could bring the virus to very manageable limits. The stock market would have to be closed, all monthly bills of any kind suspended for that 8-week period, food and RX delivered to people by National Guard, etc. I am talking a complete and total shutdown of the nation and the economy for two months. Nobody has to pay anybody anything for any reason, therefore, nobody has to go to work, except for the aforementioned military and emergency services.

Then open back up right where you left off, but maintain the isolation of the country from foreign visitors and jump on any new clusters immediately, as soon as you have a single positive. The country could probably return to 80% - 90% of normal.
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Hey guys? When you go to your news sites, do they still have covid sections/tabs? Do they still let you read the covid stories for free, like they used to?

My local sites have gotten rid of the sections AND most of the stories are hidden as side bars on other stories. I stumbled onto that yesterday.
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Iran Shatters Its Single-Day Record for Virus Deaths, Cases

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — For the second day in a row, Iran shattered its single-day record for new deaths and infections from the coronavirus, with 272 people confirmed dead among more than 4,200 new cases on Monday.

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South Dakota Reports 38% Positivity Rate In Daily Virus Tests

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Yeah, no kidding, we're very far from actual Covid news, but we're rather witnessing bickering from ego-maniacs who think they they are somehow the masters of this thread. Too bad that DT gave up...
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He hasn't given up.

He made a very informational post a little while ago this a.m.

In between the daily tard fest between a few others on here.
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The AC is confusing putting true trolls into the light and not enough news in the day.

Plus have you folks never had just normal enjoyable conversation?

Good grief.

I love my little angry poof balls. I bet five scarves that France goes full martial law tonight. Oh Wednesday.... okay. Thanks Pillar
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1. Who is "you folks"?

2. Nothing enjoyable or informative about watching "YOU folks" implode.
 Quoting: last one


The only implosion was this mornings troll attempts. Sorry to disappoint you.

You are get ever bit upset when.....Heaven forbid...... people chit chat. Good conversation is good for mental health and staying calm.....both of which you should take more seriously as we step further down this probability timeline.

I suppose it’s time some Heart Medicine......

Muhahaha.
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Hey guys? When you go to your news sites, do they still have covid sections/tabs? Do they still let you read the covid stories for free, like they used to?

My local sites have gotten rid of the sections AND most of the stories are hidden as side bars on other stories. I stumbled onto that yesterday.
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Ours is still there.....but I don’t expect it to stay there past the end of the month. We are transitioning to national security control of all things Virus.

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The problem with lockdowns is that they don’t confer any permanent benefits. As soon as the lockdowns are eased, infections ramp up again.

Worse, you can only lock things down so many times before you trigger economic and civilizational collapse.

We are really between a rock and a hard place. The only real solution is to lock things down permanently and accept economic and civilizational collapse as the cost of saving a few lives.

Or, we can do away with lockdowns altogether and live as normally as possible, but realize our time to live that way may be limited until collapse comes. In the meantime, we can quarantine and look after the vulnerable while letting everyone else get in with their lives.
 Quoting: OceanusPrime


I disagree. I think with an 8-week full lockdown - and I mean FULL lockdown, as in nobody is on the streets except military and emergency services - combined with a complete shutdown of all foreign visitors, you could bring the virus to very manageable limits. The stock market would have to be closed, all monthly bills of any kind suspended for that 8-week period, food and RX delivered to people by National Guard, etc. I am talking a complete and total shutdown of the nation and the economy for two months. Nobody has to pay anybody anything for any reason, therefore, nobody has to go to work, except for the aforementioned military and emergency services.

Then open back up right where you left off, but maintain the isolation of the country from foreign visitors and jump on any new clusters immediately, as soon as you have a single positive. The country could probably return to 80% - 90% of normal.
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That would only work if we can guarantee there is no such thing as relapse. And I ain’t feel groovy on that issue.
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Hey guys? When you go to your news sites, do they still have covid sections/tabs? Do they still let you read the covid stories for free, like they used to?

My local sites have gotten rid of the sections AND most of the stories are hidden as side bars on other stories. I stumbled onto that yesterday.
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Ours is still there.....but I don’t expect it to stay there past the end of the month. We are transitioning to national security control of all things Virus.

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Ours disappeared sometime last month. I don't remember seeing them since sports started.
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I would love to see a survey on how many IRL think this is a hoax. Or overblown. Because I can list ten friends or Acquaintances .... just off the top of my noodle.
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Hey guys? When you go to your news sites, do they still have covid sections/tabs? Do they still let you read the covid stories for free, like they used to?

My local sites have gotten rid of the sections AND most of the stories are hidden as side bars on other stories. I stumbled onto that yesterday.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Ours is still there.....but I don’t expect it to stay there past the end of the month. We are transitioning to national security control of all things Virus.

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Ours disappeared sometime last month. I don't remember seeing them since sports started.
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Mmmmmm. It helps that circuses are back.
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Most people try to avoid COVID-19. But thousands are signing up to be deliberately exposed

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Less than 50%

There is some disagreement about whether a coronavirus trial would need a placebo group. Stephenson suggested it would not, but Smith is not so sure.

"The problem," Smith said, "is essentially that if you give a group of volunteers a vaccine, and then you challenge them, and none of them develop disease, is that because the vaccine was protective, or because there was something wrong with the way in which you challenged them such that they didn't get infected? And you can't answer that question definitively unless you have a control group."
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Hey guys? When you go to your news sites, do they still have covid sections/tabs? Do they still let you read the covid stories for free, like they used to?

My local sites have gotten rid of the sections AND most of the stories are hidden as side bars on other stories. I stumbled onto that yesterday.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Most local news stations are Sinclair owned so don't be surprised if they stop reporting anything about the virus. Especially with the way the administration has been funneling info through DHS and what not vs CDC.
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Hey guys? When you go to your news sites, do they still have covid sections/tabs? Do they still let you read the covid stories for free, like they used to?

My local sites have gotten rid of the sections AND most of the stories are hidden as side bars on other stories. I stumbled onto that yesterday.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Most local news stations are Sinclair owned so don't be surprised if they stop reporting anything about the virus. Especially with the way the administration has been funneling info through DHS and what not vs CDC.
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Speaking of DHS....

Here is the master question list ... updated October 6, 2020

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Hey guys? When you go to your news sites, do they still have covid sections/tabs? Do they still let you read the covid stories for free, like they used to?

My local sites have gotten rid of the sections AND most of the stories are hidden as side bars on other stories. I stumbled onto that yesterday.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Most local news stations are Sinclair owned so don't be surprised if they stop reporting anything about the virus. Especially with the way the administration has been funneling info through DHS and what not vs CDC.
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I forgot about that and I should've remembered. Family member works for a tv station. IT.

Thanks, y'all.
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Based on current knowledge that antibodies fade and become undetectable within 2-4 months, a vaccine will not result in immunity...just temporary protection. If it works?

Everyone will need a vaccination every 3 months. Those infected and recovered can get reinfected.

The virus will mutate because vaccinations vs those unvaccinated will eventually produce viruses that the vaccine is not effective against...virus survival is assured since the virus survives 28 days on certain common surfaces.

Biggest question is not how many fatalities, it is the long term impact of the virus? Once infected are you ever really free of the virus? Someone will eventually re-spread the virus and hot spots will pop up!
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JORIS BOHNSON :LIVE UK
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Okay...... here is the why and how they will preset the argument to the public that information on the virus is being misrepresented.......oh bloody hell.... incoming blackout of all information.

Why misinterpretation of electron micrographs in SARS-CoV-2-infected tissue goes viral

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Less than 50%

Nevertheless, ultrastructural details in autopsy tissues have been misinterpreted as coronavirus particles in recent papers. Bradley and colleagues3 described “coronavirus-like particles” in autopsy specimens of the “respiratory system, kidney, and gastrointestinal tract”, and in a case report Dolhnikoff and colleagues4 described “viral particles” in “different cell types of cardiac tissue” of a deceased child. However, the images in these publications show putative virus particles that lack sufficient ultrastructure for an unambiguous identification as virus.
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Well don’t leave us hanging..... I can’t listen to another waffling political mastermind.

:)
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I think -40% is being optimistic.

COVID-19 slashes global tourism revenue by $316 billion

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Dyin..... add another Nelson

Airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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I think -40% is being optimistic.

COVID-19 slashes global tourism revenue by $316 billion

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.....did you miss the packed beaches?

It was probably local money, but it propped it for round one. Round duex won’t be so pretty.
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The problem with lockdowns is that they don’t confer any permanent benefits. As soon as the lockdowns are eased, infections ramp up again.

Worse, you can only lock things down so many times before you trigger economic and civilizational collapse.

We are really between a rock and a hard place. The only real solution is to lock things down permanently and accept economic and civilizational collapse as the cost of saving a few lives.

Or, we can do away with lockdowns altogether and live as normally as possible, but realize our time to live that way may be limited until collapse comes. In the meantime, we can quarantine and look after the vulnerable while letting everyone else get in with their lives.
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I disagree. I think with an 8-week full lockdown - and I mean FULL lockdown, as in nobody is on the streets except military and emergency services - combined with a complete shutdown of all foreign visitors, you could bring the virus to very manageable limits. The stock market would have to be closed, all monthly bills of any kind suspended for that 8-week period, food and RX delivered to people by National Guard, etc. I am talking a complete and total shutdown of the nation and the economy for two months. Nobody has to pay anybody anything for any reason, therefore, nobody has to go to work, except for the aforementioned military and emergency services.

Then open back up right where you left off, but maintain the isolation of the country from foreign visitors and jump on any new clusters immediately, as soon as you have a single positive. The country could probably return to 80% - 90% of normal.
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Riff, I agree completely.

I sent four emails to the Governor of Texas back in Feb. proposing exactly this plan. Total shutdown of the state with NO travel outside the home for 8 weeks.

As far as returning to normal, I think that we should prudently change all processes and practices of daily life to limit the spread of the virus.

We CAN modify almost every aspect of our lives including education, work, shopping, and all industrial processes to prevent the spread.

I fully understand the reluctance to accept this new reality. I can see the argument against it, but do not agree. It would result in lower standards of living world wide.

I worry most about third world countries where people will literally starve to death if incomes drop.

However, if the virus continues we get to the same end point regardless.

Quick Example: Our male Husky disappeared a few days ago. Clearly escaped the fence. I figured most likely dead because he has no experience dodging traffic.

JOY! Got a call from a veterinarian's office an hour ago. Some guy brought our Husky in and the vet read the chip. They called me immediately.

Had to enter the vet office to get my dog. Mask, eye protection, of course.

Drove home with the windows partly open.

When we got home, we took off our possibly contaminated clothing on the patio and showered/shampooed immediately.

So, life goes on....with precautions.
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Dyin..... add another Nelson

Airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2

Science 05 Oct 2020:
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Truth never damages a cause that is just
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Case study....can’t bring myself to read it

Outcomes of Neonates Born to Mothers With Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 Infection at a Large Medical Center in New York City

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Airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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lmao
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Darth.....

Most humans can’t be bothered to clean their home..... proper decon is more a pipe dream than avaccine.....

Glad the murder furball is safe and home.





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