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In Idaho, children as young as 5 have become ill will COVID-19, and with the reopening of schools the numbers keep going up.
[link to www.idahoednews.org (secure)]

Remember how some “officials” kept saying kids can’t get it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79489870


Sorry for the poor grammar, meant to say ill with, not ill will- brain fog I guess today. Just one personal commentary from me....I keep seeing conversations on social media about the school system on social media, in regards to parents not wanting to send their children for in person education due to epidemic. In some areas it appears they are being hamstrung by the system from uncooperative school board members refusing to go virtual even though the option is there.

One school board member near me resigned yesterday over the debacle, wanting in person schooling, while the other educators are now wanting to shift to virtual learning due to high COVID-19 infection numbers. While it seems like a no-brainer to just go virtual during this situation, I wonder if there is some other reason for not doing so. Do the schools receive more money for in person learning?
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INDIANA NOW ON OHIOS CORONAVIRUS TRAVEL ADVISORY MAP

Indiana landed on Ohio’s map because of its relatively high coronavirus testing positivity average rate over the last seven days: 15.6%.

less than 50%
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Jesus.... last time I checked it was around 11%. We're going the wrong direction because the governor got rid of all restrictions except mask requirements. Everything's open.
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Ohio should be on Indiana’s list too
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Another miracle treatment, to calm the masses, straight to the drain.


We knew it anyway, long time ago.

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...


Provide the source and link for that statistic, thanks
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[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
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Woopity woopity woopity
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76845020



Read the article before you "celebrate".

This is about people "self-reporting" after they got sick.

Key phrase: "self report".

Not scientific at all and very suspect.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


This bothers me. What about the QUALITY of the mask? Just try to buy a N95 (I'm living in Oregon - don't know why it says Canada) in the US..... NOT available! Most people I see are wearing substandard masks - some even have their mask under their nose. Of course the masks aren't effective as good ones are rare.

I wear this one.... It's fantastic and you can breathe....N100..... But it looks slightly odd, so I can't even get my boyfriend to wear it......

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Woopity woopity woopity
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76845020



Read the article before you "celebrate".

This is about people "self-reporting" after they got sick.

Key phrase: "self report".

Not scientific at all and very suspect.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


This bothers me. What about the QUALITY of the mask? Just try to buy a N95 (I'm living in Oregon - don't know why it says Canada) in the US..... NOT available! Most people I see are wearing substandard masks - some even have their mask under their nose. Of course the masks aren't effective as good ones are rare.

I wear this one.... It's fantastic and you can breathe....N100..... But it looks slightly odd, so I can't even get my boyfriend to wear it......

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
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Castle Grade has a good offering.
Various colors and sizes.
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The Covid-19 treatment remdesivir has no substantial effect on a patient’s chances of survival, a clinical trial by the @WHO has found, delivering a significant blow to hopes of identifying existing medicines to treat the disease.

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In Idaho, children as young as 5 have become ill will COVID-19, and with the reopening of schools the numbers keep going up.
[link to www.idahoednews.org (secure)]

Remember how some “officials” kept saying kids can’t get it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79489870


Sorry for the poor grammar, meant to say ill with, not ill will- brain fog I guess today. Just one personal commentary from me....I keep seeing conversations on social media about the school system on social media, in regards to parents not wanting to send their children for in person education due to epidemic. In some areas it appears they are being hamstrung by the system from uncooperative school board members refusing to go virtual even though the option is there.

One school board member near me resigned yesterday over the debacle, wanting in person schooling, while the other educators are now wanting to shift to virtual learning due to high COVID-19 infection numbers. While it seems like a no-brainer to just go virtual during this situation, I wonder if there is some other reason for not doing so. Do the schools receive more money for in person learning?
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This is all so new...in the past , twice a year schools were required to take a census, so to speak..those numbers were used to determine federal funding and subsequently state funding as well...

That’s why DeSantis set up basically blackmail for all the FL counties...either reopen or we withhold state money...idk if Trump did anymore than threaten withholding federal money...

It was so late in the year last school term those censuses had already been done, but this year that should be happening sometime in October...
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I donno.
150-ish now?
Just now getting this info from July.
We are way behind the curve.

Seattle-area man is the third person in the U.S. confirmed to have been infected twice with coronavirus

..genetic testing by a team of Seattle physicians and scientists has revealed that sexagenarian’s second bout of the illness caused by the coronavirus in July wasn’t a relapse but a new infection with a slightly different variant of the virus.

The patient is only the third person in the United States — and one of about 20 worldwide — confirmed to have experienced such a double whammy.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79471260


Another miracle treatment, to calm the masses, straight to the drain.


We knew it anyway, long time ago.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


WHO is as reliable as a wind detector device as far as the political winds are blowing...if Trump says it’s good, it must not be...and the thing last night about masks help you to catch it...

Idk who is paying the WHO’s bills these days, or if there is some way they are recouping those massive losses from the bonds that went bye bye once they declared pandemic...I am just saying we have been down this road before...do this. Don’t do that...this is good...no it isn’t ...oh wait, yes it is...

Best thing for the science atm is for Trump to be quiet
Because no matter what he says the opposite is what I hear is right...

Not that I agree or disagree atm

I ‘m just tired of it alll...I don’t want to be a statistic...
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From the article I linked earlier, quotes are messed up, but this is less than 50%
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 Quoting: Bastetcat


I've always used method one, which is the one that most stated publish. There has been some shady publishing by Florida in the past but the main question currently is if the "drop" in testing we've seen has been supply or demand side.

[link to covidtracking.com (secure)] if you click full range you'll see that testing has dropped off along with cases but also along with hospitalizations. Hospitalizations are harder overall to cheat with but it can be done.

If you compare the testing in Florida to for example New York [link to covidtracking.com (secure)] you can see that Florida has seen a notable 'drop' in total tests though, which would explain the higher positivity rate despite the lower case count.

So to summarize, Given hospitalization Florida looks to be doing better, I still wonder whether the lower testing is because people don't want them or it is being 'gated' to a degree though. That said there is no real indication that the situation is getting worse or better, a lot of the deaths can be explained as people still dying though that should be dropping off soon.
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Canadian Study Shows Over 75% Of Ex-COVID-19 Patients Have Lasting Health Problems

...the conclusion was that "over 75% of patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have abnormal patient-reported outcome measures 3 months after symptom onset."

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Based off of all available data the highest probability says:

You do not live on a sphere suspended in space called Earth.

There are not 7 continents.

The place you live does not have 7 billion people.

The stars, planets, and moon in your sky are not real, and NASA is not a genuine organization but a front for secret societies spreading false information and creating illusions.

Mainstream world history is completely fake and everything you read about in all history books are the result of a script of lies and deceit implemented by secret organizations

All announced contemporary and past archeological discoveries are facades orchestrated by secret organizations creating illusions and false realities.
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That’s a nice idea but it feels fairly real to me, illusion or not. Try sticking a cactus up your arse and come back and tell us it’s all an illusion.
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Everyone,
SHHHH...be veddy veddy quiet..they are hunting Data about us...

here's some
Don't
Address
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At all


for them to put with the catcus...very important points, yk..

And Sir Francis, I am REALLY in agreement with you, friend...
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My bad I’ll leave them alone buddy

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“WHO study”. ... stop the presses.....herethere
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Has there been rise in corona cases in usa as well or its just europe?
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Deplorable Recollector, Dutchy, Wordsworth, Riff, CC and any other number crunchers please take a look at this article...it's a matter of life and death to me, JoeP, abizzybee and other Floridians..

I posted this earlier, and I think it got drowned by drivel..this is important because the rates help determine the reopening rate, etc...

[link to www.sun-sentinel.com (secure)]

Florida has obscured the true extent of its COVID-19 pandemic by using a misleading measure of positive cases to justify reopening schools and businesses, state data indicates.

While Florida has publicized that its “positivity rate” has regularly fallen below 5%, other health organizations are publishing data that shows the rate may be dramatically higher.

Independent experts, including Johns Hopkins University, consistently list Florida’s positivity rate at 10% or higher, twice the recommended level for widespread reopening.

Florida itself calculates another version of the rate — not widely publicized — that shows the pandemic is worse than state officials have championed. Those figures show that the rate has never fallen to the 5% threshold, the South Florida Sun Sentinel discovered
.

less than 50%
If you click on the article there are multiple links to other related stories that are too much for me to post here...

It's concerning especially with respect to schools opening and remaining open..

thanks for your input and analysis...
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I am sorry.......data manipulation has been an issue from day one. That’s why it was important to look for other warning signs.... the brain part of this is bigger than they want to own to. And why China was all to happy to burn their citizens alive.

Schools shouldn’t be open. It’s embarrassing as an “advanced” society that this even has to be a fight.

The sadness is just beginning.
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Woopity woopity woopity
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76845020



Read the article before you "celebrate".

This is about people "self-reporting" after they got sick.

Key phrase: "self report".

Not scientific at all and very suspect.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


This bothers me. What about the QUALITY of the mask? Just try to buy a N95 (I'm living in Oregon - don't know why it says Canada) in the US..... NOT available! Most people I see are wearing substandard masks - some even have their mask under their nose. Of course the masks aren't effective as good ones are rare.

I wear this one.... It's fantastic and you can breathe....N100..... But it looks slightly odd, so I can't even get my boyfriend to wear it......

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Thisisit


That’s the one Riff - Raff uses and recommended here.
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Deplorable Recollector, Dutchy, Wordsworth, Riff, CC and any other number crunchers please take a look at this article...it's a matter of life and death to me, JoeP, abizzybee and other Floridians..

I posted this earlier, and I think it got drowned by drivel..this is important because the rates help determine the reopening rate, etc...

[link to www.sun-sentinel.com (secure)]

Florida has obscured the true extent of its COVID-19 pandemic by using a misleading measure of positive cases to justify reopening schools and businesses, state data indicates.

While Florida has publicized that its “positivity rate” has regularly fallen below 5%, other health organizations are publishing data that shows the rate may be dramatically higher.

Independent experts, including Johns Hopkins University, consistently list Florida’s positivity rate at 10% or higher, twice the recommended level for widespread reopening.

Florida itself calculates another version of the rate — not widely publicized — that shows the pandemic is worse than state officials have championed. Those figures show that the rate has never fallen to the 5% threshold, the South Florida Sun Sentinel discovered
.

less than 50%
If you click on the article there are multiple links to other related stories that are too much for me to post here...

It's concerning especially with respect to schools opening and remaining open..

thanks for your input and analysis...
 Quoting: Bastetcat


Bastetcat, I've discussed this phenomenon on my social media accounts a couple of times, and it basically boils down to the more complicated something is, the easier it is to manipulate and present statistics that are mathematically correct, but completely misleading. Common examples of this are using median instead of average numbers, or vice versa. A lot of people do not understand the difference between median and average and they mean different things. So if you have an agenda to push, and median gives you a result that supports your agenda better than average does, you present the median figures. All completely correct mathematically and statistically, but presents a false representation of what's really going on.

There are other methods: Incidents per capita, incidents per million, raw percentage, adjusted percentage... the list goes on, as I'm sure DR and Dutchy can both attest to. They can probably go into better detail than I can because statistics always gave me a headache.

But, that's why it's important to A: Know *exactly* what methodology is being used when statistics are being presented. Ask how do those numbers change using a different methodology (ie median versus average). If the source will not reveal their methodology or try to obfuscate it, then it is immediately suspect; and B: Find a trustworthy source of statistics and stick with them. Here are a few of the most reliable sources I have found over the past 8 months:

Johns Hopkins Covid-19 Dashboard
[link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)]

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
[link to coronavirus.jhu.edu (secure)]

Our World In Data
[link to ourworldindata.org (secure)]

Coronavirus API
[link to coronavirusapi.com (secure)]

Worldometers
[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]

SAVI (IUPUI)
[link to www.savi.org (secure)]

Coronavirus Pandemic: Real Time Counter, World Map, News
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

That last YouTube live feed actually pulls its data from several different sources, including ones I've listed above, but it's presentation is top notch. I keep it running 24/7 on a dedicated monitor in my office.

Hope that helps a little. Maybe Dutchy or DR can do a better job explaining it in more detail and correcting anything I may have gotten incorrect.

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Just so you know, you are my canary in the coal mine. When you finally post that it's a somethingburger, I will know that we are officially in deep waters.
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Has there been rise in corona cases in usa as well or its just europe?
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Cases here in the US are beginning to trend upward as well...we are usually anywhere from 2-6 weeks behind Europe with COVID
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Deplorable Recollector, Dutchy, Wordsworth, Riff, CC and any other number crunchers please take a look at this article...it's a matter of life and death to me, JoeP, abizzybee and other Floridians..

I posted this earlier, and I think it got drowned by drivel..this is important because the rates help determine the reopening rate, etc...

[link to www.sun-sentinel.com (secure)]

Florida has obscured the true extent of its COVID-19 pandemic by using a misleading measure of positive cases to justify reopening schools and businesses, state data indicates.

While Florida has publicized that its “positivity rate” has regularly fallen below 5%, other health organizations are publishing data that shows the rate may be dramatically higher.

Independent experts, including Johns Hopkins University, consistently list Florida’s positivity rate at 10% or higher, twice the recommended level for widespread reopening.

Florida itself calculates another version of the rate — not widely publicized — that shows the pandemic is worse than state officials have championed. Those figures show that the rate has never fallen to the 5% threshold, the South Florida Sun Sentinel discovered
.

less than 50%
If you click on the article there are multiple links to other related stories that are too much for me to post here...

It's concerning especially with respect to schools opening and remaining open..

thanks for your input and analysis...
 Quoting: Bastetcat


Bastetcat, I've discussed this phenomenon on my social media accounts a couple of times, and it basically boils down to the more complicated something is, the easier it is to manipulate and present statistics that are mathematically correct, but completely misleading. Common examples of this are using median instead of average numbers, or vice versa. A lot of people do not understand the difference between median and average and they mean different things. So if you have an agenda to push, and median gives you a result that supports your agenda better than average does, you present the median figures. All completely correct mathematically and statistically, but presents a false representation of what's really going on.

There are other methods: Incidents per capita, incidents per million, raw percentage, adjusted percentage... the list goes on, as I'm sure DR and Dutchy can both attest to. They can probably go into better detail than I can because statistics always gave me a headache.

But, that's why it's important to A: Know *exactly* what methodology is being used when statistics are being presented. Ask how do those numbers change using a different methodology (ie median versus average). If the source will not reveal their methodology or try to obfuscate it, then it is immediately suspect; and B: Find a trustworthy source of statistics and stick with them. Here are a few of the most reliable sources I have found over the past 8 months:

Johns Hopkins Covid-19 Dashboard
[link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)]

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
[link to coronavirus.jhu.edu (secure)]

Our World In Data
[link to ourworldindata.org (secure)]

Coronavirus API
[link to coronavirusapi.com (secure)]

Worldometers
[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]

SAVI (IUPUI)
[link to www.savi.org (secure)]

Coronavirus Pandemic: Real Time Counter, World Map, News
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

That last YouTube live feed actually pulls its data from several different sources, including ones I've listed above, but it's presentation is top notch. I keep it running 24/7 on a dedicated monitor in my office.

Hope that helps a little. Maybe Dutchy or DR can do a better job explaining it in more detail and correcting anything I may have gotten incorrect.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Thank you, Riff, Dutchy, CC and MJ...

All of you were helpful and I appreciate your responses.
hf
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OK,now that DR's report is in i'll give u my point.the US is screwed JAN.somewhere along the lines ,i read that losing 25% of the specialists will cost us the grid.that is enuf workers at the top level to shut it down.lights out

1st,i disagree with DR and others saying we are 10-15% infected now.that is not what i see in the rural counties of PA and NY states.globally ,considering the populations of CHINA,INDIA,and AFRICA, that # might right. if we are at 10% and knowing the cold will help spread the virus more and faster,then i see us hitting 25% as a real possability by JAN.

we can assume the govern will do something to slow the spread.too little too late? even if they did i doubt they can buy enuf time to get us to spring,another 3mths.

i posted a projection of 1 billion dead worldwide within 3yrs both directly and indirectly caused by it.that # was with the grid staying up. taking DR's #'s 3% to OCT 2021,double it to 2022 and add the remainder of time to JAN. you get almost 12%.12% of the population as of JAN 2020 is what??.... close to 1 billion.


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From the article I linked earlier, quotes are messed up, but this is less than 50%
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 Quoting: Bastetcat


I've always used method one, which is the one that most stated publish. There has been some shady publishing by Florida in the past but the main question currently is if the "drop" in testing we've seen has been supply or demand side.

[link to covidtracking.com (secure)] if you click full range you'll see that testing has dropped off along with cases but also along with hospitalizations. Hospitalizations are harder overall to cheat with but it can be done.

If you compare the testing in Florida to for example New York [link to covidtracking.com (secure)] you can see that Florida has seen a notable 'drop' in total tests though, which would explain the higher positivity rate despite the lower case count.

So to summarize, Given hospitalization Florida looks to be doing better, I still wonder whether the lower testing is because people don't want them or it is being 'gated' to a degree though. That said there is no real indication that the situation is getting worse or better, a lot of the deaths can be explained as people still dying though that should be dropping off soon.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


Florida covid hospital admissions are increasing since end of September ( covidtracking.com appears not to include this info. )
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INDIANA NOW ON OHIOS CORONAVIRUS TRAVEL ADVISORY MAP

Indiana landed on Ohio’s map because of its relatively high coronavirus testing positivity average rate over the last seven days: 15.6%.

less than 50%
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Jesus.... last time I checked it was around 11%. We're going the wrong direction because the governor got rid of all restrictions except mask requirements. Everything's open.
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Ohio should be on Indiana’s list too
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To my knowledge, we do not have a list or any kind of quarantine requirements for people coming in from out of state.
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