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Dutchy20
User ID: 79233391 Netherlands 11/17/2020 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 DUTCHY, do u have any research handy that tells us how long the virus survives in air with the colder temps? we kknow it lates longer on surfcaes,but did anyone run scenarios for tha cold air? Quoting: JAZZz50 was thinking of this today as ppl walk out of stores and remove the masks. that virus doesn't die fast like it would in summer with sun and heat. Good point. We don't know. All I can find is explicitly on a surface which thinking of it makes sense. We can't "control" the virus in the air so it's hard to test - The test subject tends to get lost unless you confine it to a surface. The best that I can recall seeing that was recent is a analysis by Goldman Sachs as discussed here (Can't find original): [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Not really "science" but it gives a decent indication of how the weather influences the spread with a attempt to filter out other variables. Vaid Status: It's a small world after all! |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 11/17/2020 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 FAUCI: expects Pfizer to apply to the FDA for emergency use authorization within about **1.5 weeks**. Timing detail is important - That makes it two months exactly since volunteers got their 2nd vaccine dose (FDA asked for two months of safety data EUA application). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78232017 notice how these ppl waited til 2 wks after the election to release these vaccines. now do u want to trust them? ppl think TRUMP is bad. these yoyo's are working for the other side. pure evil scientists. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72231701 United Kingdom 11/17/2020 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Here we go: 'mRNA-1273 delivered from Company’s cGMP facility in 42 days from sequence selection CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 24, 2020-- Moderna, Inc., (Nasdaq: MRNA) a clinical stage biotechnology company pioneering messenger RNA (mRNA) therapeutics and vaccines to create a new generation of transformative medicines for patients today announced that it has released the first batch of mRNA-1273, the Company’s vaccine against the novel coronavirus, for human use. Vials of mRNA-1273 have been shipped to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), a part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to be used in the planned Phase 1 study in the U.S.' [link to investors.modernatx.com (secure)] So the date is correct. The Vaccine was adopted from one they were developing for MERS along with NIH which is a government institute, not likely Trump made that deal but there was a pre-existing partnership in the "Mother-project" that lead to this vaccine. So basically mRNA vaccines could be used on any RNA virus. I never really looked into any of the MERS research. Why MERS and not SARS? Weapons... Cheers dutchy you are the man. You woke parts of my brain right up.. I am not 100% on this but as I understand it the vaccine works by producing just the spike protein of the virus, which is also the part antibodies target. So the same method with slight modification should work on viruses of the coronavirus family, not all viruses. SARS1 is pretty much non-existent outside of labs that we know of, MERS is still around by hardly ever transmits from human to human (Camels are potential carriers). All three are pretty much closely related. I didn’t realise MERs was still out and about. If it is still prevalent why do we never read about about breaks. MERS has a really high mortality. This could definitely be a breakthrough for any coronavirus. Or a MAGA fail. I thank you for you time Dutchy. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 11/17/2020 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 DUTCHY, do u have any research handy that tells us how long the virus survives in air with the colder temps? we kknow it lates longer on surfcaes,but did anyone run scenarios for tha cold air? Quoting: JAZZz50 was thinking of this today as ppl walk out of stores and remove the masks. that virus doesn't die fast like it would in summer with sun and heat. Good point. We don't know. All I can find is explicitly on a surface which thinking of it makes sense. We can't "control" the virus in the air so it's hard to test - The test subject tends to get lost unless you confine it to a surface. The best that I can recall seeing that was recent is a analysis by Goldman Sachs as discussed here (Can't find original): [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Not really "science" but it gives a decent indication of how the weather influences the spread with a attempt to filter out other variables. combined with the air blasting that occurs at entrances to walmart,hospitals,etc and SOS hair theory, winter will see huge case counts. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
Riff-Raff
DEFCON 4 User ID: 52530071 United States 11/17/2020 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Some on this thread have been wearing little nothingburger badges and wearing nothingburger tshirts in your honour. We're thinking of having an annual nothingburger day as well, sometime around September 14th, itll be a feast day where everyone sits around a huge table, socially distanced, with empty plates, and they all raise an empty glass to you! I love that idea, but instead of empty plates it should be hamburger buns with nothing in them. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
schnuffel
User ID: 79648638 Germany 11/17/2020 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 COVID-19: Full utilization of certified and recognized Intensive bed capacities Basel, 17 November 2020 The 876 SGI-certified and approved intensive care beds, which are normally available for the treatment of adults, are currently practically Fully occupied1 [link to www.sgi-ssmi.ch (secure)] . Up to now, overloading these decent bed capacities has been prevented because in many places non-urgent interventions and treatments are not have been postponed. On the other hand, an increase in bed capacity due to the already already excessively demanding teams of the intensive care units, contributed to the intensive care units are currently not overburdened throughout Switzerland. Prevent a loss of quality in intensive care treatment The Swiss intensive care units are at the limit of their proper bed capacity, but do their utmost to make it possible compared to the first COVID-19 increased influx of critically ill patients and to be able to care for all critically ill patients in the future. It's of the utmost importance in containing the COVID-19 pandemic now and not urgent interventions and treatments throughout Switzerland in order to reduce quality in intensive medical treatment. The SGI is in close contact with the intensive care units, national authorities and various health care organisations to work on the basis of past and experience to coordinate and implement measures. National relocations as a burden on patients, patients and relatives In recent days, several critically ill patients have been due to a lack of intensive care resources to other cantons or even to language regions. These relocations from the own residential region are patients and their relatives. However, national relocations are necessary to help all critically ill patients patients in Switzerland to receive the best possible intensive care treatment. The SGI would like to thank the intensive care units, hospitals and cantons for their solidarity and understanding among patients and relatives. Now support intensive care units and the entire health care system! It is essential that all existing protection measures continue to be act responsibly and avoid unnecessary risks in order to intensive care units and the entire health care system. The SGI would like to stress, however, that all persons who have acute ailments or have a medical need clarification, should not hesitate to seek medical assistance. Take. All persons, especially those who are particularly vulnerable to the new coronavirus are asked to consider this in the context of a patient's order. whether or not they wish to receive life-extending measures in the event of a serious illness. As a result, the own relatives as well as the teams of the intensive care units in the decision-making process, so that the treatment of can take place in the best possible way and according to the individual patient's will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79632815 11/17/2020 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Some on this thread have been wearing little nothingburger badges and wearing nothingburger tshirts in your honour. We're thinking of having an annual nothingburger day as well, sometime around September 14th, itll be a feast day where everyone sits around a huge table, socially distanced, with empty plates, and they all raise an empty glass to you! I love that idea, but instead of empty plates it should be hamburger buns with nothing in them. Ohhhhhhhh. I see Word World art coming. Normal buns but with a NOTHING in them. |
Riff-Raff
DEFCON 4 User ID: 52530071 United States 11/17/2020 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I spoke with a friend of mine in a federal agency recently. I don't want to reveal too much because he will most likely get in trouble if something he says based on knowledge obtained from his job is found posted publicly. He's not even allowed to have a FaceBook account. Those of you who know me know I'm not a LARP-er; those of you who don't can take this with however much salt you want. But he is in a position to know these things. He essentially said that it does not matter whether or not the United States locks down at this point. This winter is going to be brutal as far as the covid numbers are concerned. We're just going to have to buckle up for the bumpy ride and get through it. That being said, he also gave me some hope on the vaccines that are currently in the pipe. He indicated there are just some unknowns that will remain unknowns until they deploy the vaccines on a national scale, and there might be some initial problems with efficacy across all virus strains, but the scientific progress that has been made over the past 10 months has been far more staggering than is generally known. And while we might not get back to "normal" this year or next, we will get back to "normal" sooner than most people think. You all know I am not one for hopium, but I did feel better about our long-term outlook after talking to him. Take that for what it's worth. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79636483 United Kingdom 11/17/2020 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 DUTCHY, do u have any research handy that tells us how long the virus survives in air with the colder temps? we kknow it lates longer on surfcaes,but did anyone run scenarios for tha cold air? Quoting: JAZZz50 was thinking of this today as ppl walk out of stores and remove the masks. that virus doesn't die fast like it would in summer with sun and heat. Good point. We don't know. All I can find is explicitly on a surface which thinking of it makes sense. We can't "control" the virus in the air so it's hard to test - The test subject tends to get lost unless you confine it to a surface. The best that I can recall seeing that was recent is a analysis by Goldman Sachs as discussed here (Can't find original): [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Not really "science" but it gives a decent indication of how the weather influences the spread with a attempt to filter out other variables. combined with the air blasting that occurs at entrances to walmart,hospitals,etc and SOS hair theory, winter will see huge case counts. On that note I raised a concern at work in June about the use of fans at work saying the virus is airborne and the fans wil spread it faster. I got basically laughed at by management l. Now they have acknowledged the possibility. But are going off who the WHO and public health England’s guidelines atm. Management cannot get there heads around what I’ve been telling them since jan:feb are coming true. People at Work think this site is the dark web. Haha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79632815 11/17/2020 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Some in L.A. are getting COVID-19 tests so they can party, socialize. Officials call this a disaster [link to www.latimes.com (secure)] |
Riff-Raff
DEFCON 4 User ID: 52530071 United States 11/17/2020 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 DUTCHY, do u have any research handy that tells us how long the virus survives in air with the colder temps? we kknow it lates longer on surfcaes,but did anyone run scenarios for tha cold air? Quoting: JAZZz50 was thinking of this today as ppl walk out of stores and remove the masks. that virus doesn't die fast like it would in summer with sun and heat. Good point. We don't know. All I can find is explicitly on a surface which thinking of it makes sense. We can't "control" the virus in the air so it's hard to test - The test subject tends to get lost unless you confine it to a surface. The best that I can recall seeing that was recent is a analysis by Goldman Sachs as discussed here (Can't find original): [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Not really "science" but it gives a decent indication of how the weather influences the spread with a attempt to filter out other variables. combined with the air blasting that occurs at entrances to walmart,hospitals,etc and SOS hair theory, winter will see huge case counts. On that note I raised a concern at work in June about the use of fans at work saying the virus is airborne and the fans wil spread it faster. I got basically laughed at by management l. Now they have acknowledged the possibility. But are going off who the WHO and public health England’s guidelines atm. Management cannot get there heads around what I’ve been telling them since jan:feb are coming true. People at Work think this site is the dark web. Haha LMAO. My wife is the only person who knows that I get almost half of my OSINT - on multiple topics - from this site. I'm not giving up my secret. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 11/17/2020 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 AV,i saw a diagram way back. it showed how a person in a far corner was much less likely to get infected in a meeting than ppl near the walkway between the door and the person speaking.the fans fix it so all are equal. nobody in the roomn is safe. same issue applies to schools opening windows or the use of air filters. to me even in a restaraunt where the incfected person has left before u enter,that air is moving. so the air moves any virus and scatters it throughout the room. and very seldom do u enter any place with nobody in there. SOS pointed out the effects on hair folicals. this moving air will pull virus off ppl and scater it also. to me the air movement and filter idea was never goina work. it was grabbing at straws. research being done there shows me they know this virus is goina b with us for 5yrs+. the amount of $$ spent to reseach a failing idea and the $$ spent to refab buildings with higher volume fans and fancy filters will take years to recoup. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79636483 United Kingdom 11/17/2020 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I spoke with a friend of mine in a federal agency recently. I don't want to reveal too much because he will most likely get in trouble if something he says based on knowledge obtained from his job is found posted publicly. He's not even allowed to have a FaceBook account. Those of you who know me know I'm not a LARP-er; those of you who don't can take this with however much salt you want. But he is in a position to know these things. Quoting: Riff-Raff He essentially said that it does not matter whether or not the United States locks down at this point. This winter is going to be brutal as far as the covid numbers are concerned. We're just going to have to buckle up for the bumpy ride and get through it. That being said, he also gave me some hope on the vaccines that are currently in the pipe. He indicated there are just some unknowns that will remain unknowns until they deploy the vaccines on a national scale, and there might be some initial problems with efficacy across all virus strains, but the scientific progress that has been made over the past 10 months has been far more staggering than is generally known. And while we might not get back to "normal" this year or next, we will get back to "normal" sooner than most people think. You all know I am not one for hopium, but I did feel better about our long-term outlook after talking to him. Take that for what it's worth. Nice one riff, a lot of hopium involved in that to be fair. Totally believe that is the desired out come in a perfect world but.. I think we know the variables. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79558702 United Kingdom 11/17/2020 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Grassley... I'm only surprised it took him this long to get it. https://twitter.com/_/status/1328833001724272640 |
Riff-Raff
DEFCON 4 User ID: 52530071 United States 11/17/2020 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I spoke with a friend of mine in a federal agency recently. I don't want to reveal too much because he will most likely get in trouble if something he says based on knowledge obtained from his job is found posted publicly. He's not even allowed to have a FaceBook account. Those of you who know me know I'm not a LARP-er; those of you who don't can take this with however much salt you want. But he is in a position to know these things. Quoting: Riff-Raff He essentially said that it does not matter whether or not the United States locks down at this point. This winter is going to be brutal as far as the covid numbers are concerned. We're just going to have to buckle up for the bumpy ride and get through it. That being said, he also gave me some hope on the vaccines that are currently in the pipe. He indicated there are just some unknowns that will remain unknowns until they deploy the vaccines on a national scale, and there might be some initial problems with efficacy across all virus strains, but the scientific progress that has been made over the past 10 months has been far more staggering than is generally known. And while we might not get back to "normal" this year or next, we will get back to "normal" sooner than most people think. You all know I am not one for hopium, but I did feel better about our long-term outlook after talking to him. Take that for what it's worth. Nice one riff, a lot of hopium involved in that to be fair. Totally believe that is the desired out come in a perfect world but.. I think we know the variables. He was pretty honest with me about the variables, that this will not be a quick fix, and that things will get worse before they get better. But he went into some very specific details on the science behind the vaccines and why they are not as risky as I thought they were. I still won't be first in line to get my shots, but I feel more confident that this pandemic might not last as long as I've been thinking it will and that the vaccines might eventually prove to be extremely beneficial to mankind beyond Covid. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79636483 United Kingdom 11/17/2020 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I spoke with a friend of mine in a federal agency recently. I don't want to reveal too much because he will most likely get in trouble if something he says based on knowledge obtained from his job is found posted publicly. He's not even allowed to have a FaceBook account. Those of you who know me know I'm not a LARP-er; those of you who don't can take this with however much salt you want. But he is in a position to know these things. Quoting: Riff-Raff He essentially said that it does not matter whether or not the United States locks down at this point. This winter is going to be brutal as far as the covid numbers are concerned. We're just going to have to buckle up for the bumpy ride and get through it. That being said, he also gave me some hope on the vaccines that are currently in the pipe. He indicated there are just some unknowns that will remain unknowns until they deploy the vaccines on a national scale, and there might be some initial problems with efficacy across all virus strains, but the scientific progress that has been made over the past 10 months has been far more staggering than is generally known. And while we might not get back to "normal" this year or next, we will get back to "normal" sooner than most people think. You all know I am not one for hopium, but I did feel better about our long-term outlook after talking to him. Take that for what it's worth. Nice one riff, a lot of hopium involved in that to be fair. Totally believe that is the desired out come in a perfect world but.. I think we know the variables. He was pretty honest with me about the variables, that this will not be a quick fix, and that things will get worse before they get better. But he went into some very specific details on the science behind the vaccines and why they are not as risky as I thought they were. I still won't be first in line to get my shots, but I feel more confident that this pandemic might not last as long as I've been thinking it will and that the vaccines might eventually prove to be extremely beneficial to mankind beyond Covid. Here, Here to that, I for me cannot wait for this shit to be over I miss my holidays and the pub.. unless it’s above his pay grade and basically sold of as a shill. He’s selling and your buying haha only joking.. but a possibility. A variable to be considered. I want normal back. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 11/17/2020 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 PA-5900 case. travel restrictions.masks mandatory both in and outside if around aznyone u do not live with. at current rate,PA will run out of icu beds in DEC. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 11/17/2020 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 county to west-1 week out of yellow alert level,cases climbing. looking at going right back to yellow at current rates. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
darth
User ID: 28178764 United States 11/17/2020 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I spoke with a friend of mine in a federal agency recently. I don't want to reveal too much because he will most likely get in trouble if something he says based on knowledge obtained from his job is found posted publicly. He's not even allowed to have a FaceBook account. Those of you who know me know I'm not a LARP-er; those of you who don't can take this with however much salt you want. But he is in a position to know these things. Quoting: Riff-Raff He essentially said that it does not matter whether or not the United States locks down at this point. This winter is going to be brutal as far as the covid numbers are concerned. We're just going to have to buckle up for the bumpy ride and get through it. That being said, he also gave me some hope on the vaccines that are currently in the pipe. He indicated there are just some unknowns that will remain unknowns until they deploy the vaccines on a national scale, and there might be some initial problems with efficacy across all virus strains, but the scientific progress that has been made over the past 10 months has been far more staggering than is generally known. And while we might not get back to "normal" this year or next, we will get back to "normal" sooner than most people think. You all know I am not one for hopium, but I did feel better about our long-term outlook after talking to him. Take that for what it's worth. I keep getting calls from the various VA clinics wanting me to come in for tests. I tell them, "Call me in May, 2021 and let's see if the pandemic is under control". When I tell them how I am self-isolating on my farm, they are envious. When I tell them how we decontaminate anything delivered here, they are surprised. I thank them for their service being at the VA hospital which has to be Virus Central Station with it floating in the air. I now know 12 people who have had the virus, mostly young healthy folks. However, one relative got detectable heart damage. That's all we know of for now. My decision to self-isolate with The Queen looks more and more prudent. We don't really miss leaving the farm except we miss visiting family. My concern for the winter is that I am downwind of Houston where many thousands will be coughing and breathing out viral particles. If the virus really can travel for miles, I could still get infected. One thing that strikes me is that this thread has a bunch of well-informed, intelligent prepper types and they STILL get the virus. I hope and pray that the vaccine efforts are successful. However, I will wait a couple of years before taking one just to make sure its safe. Survival of the Prudent! |
JustLurking1
User ID: 79503431 United States 11/17/2020 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 As Riff mentioned about his uncle intel safety may not be an issue but here's the caveat for approval and fast track use they only ask for short term side effects. Long term, well....take at your own risk. That's were the whole genetic reconfiguration/hijacking might be of a concern. Time will tell. My personal verdict, I will wait a little and observe from a distance. [link to m.jpost.com (secure)] |
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Riff-Raff
DEFCON 4 User ID: 52530071 United States 11/17/2020 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I spoke with a friend of mine in a federal agency recently. I don't want to reveal too much because he will most likely get in trouble if something he says based on knowledge obtained from his job is found posted publicly. He's not even allowed to have a FaceBook account. Those of you who know me know I'm not a LARP-er; those of you who don't can take this with however much salt you want. But he is in a position to know these things. Quoting: Riff-Raff He essentially said that it does not matter whether or not the United States locks down at this point. This winter is going to be brutal as far as the covid numbers are concerned. We're just going to have to buckle up for the bumpy ride and get through it. That being said, he also gave me some hope on the vaccines that are currently in the pipe. He indicated there are just some unknowns that will remain unknowns until they deploy the vaccines on a national scale, and there might be some initial problems with efficacy across all virus strains, but the scientific progress that has been made over the past 10 months has been far more staggering than is generally known. And while we might not get back to "normal" this year or next, we will get back to "normal" sooner than most people think. You all know I am not one for hopium, but I did feel better about our long-term outlook after talking to him. Take that for what it's worth. Nice one riff, a lot of hopium involved in that to be fair. Totally believe that is the desired out come in a perfect world but.. I think we know the variables. He was pretty honest with me about the variables, that this will not be a quick fix, and that things will get worse before they get better. But he went into some very specific details on the science behind the vaccines and why they are not as risky as I thought they were. I still won't be first in line to get my shots, but I feel more confident that this pandemic might not last as long as I've been thinking it will and that the vaccines might eventually prove to be extremely beneficial to mankind beyond Covid. Here, Here to that, I for me cannot wait for this shit to be over I miss my holidays and the pub.. unless it’s above his pay grade and basically sold of as a shill. He’s selling and your buying haha only joking.. but a possibility. A variable to be considered. I want normal back. During a certain scenario a couple of years ago, he had one supervisor that stood between him and direct communication with President Trump. I had the option of joining him as a volunteer on that scenario, but it would have required too much time away from my job. I've known him for 20 years. He's the real deal. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
JustLurking1
User ID: 79503431 United States 11/17/2020 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ... Quoting: antivirus201 Nice one riff, a lot of hopium involved in that to be fair. Totally believe that is the desired out come in a perfect world but.. I think we know the variables. He was pretty honest with me about the variables, that this will not be a quick fix, and that things will get worse before they get better. But he went into some very specific details on the science behind the vaccines and why they are not as risky as I thought they were. I still won't be first in line to get my shots, but I feel more confident that this pandemic might not last as long as I've been thinking it will and that the vaccines might eventually prove to be extremely beneficial to mankind beyond Covid. Here, Here to that, I for me cannot wait for this shit to be over I miss my holidays and the pub.. unless it’s above his pay grade and basically sold of as a shill. He’s selling and your buying haha only joking.. but a possibility. A variable to be considered. I want normal back. During a certain scenario a couple of years ago, he had one supervisor that stood between him and direct communication with President Trump. I had the option of joining him as a volunteer on that scenario, but it would have required too much time away from my job. I've known him for 20 years. He's the real deal. This isn't the current surgeon general from Indy, Riff? LOL j/k |
Riff-Raff
DEFCON 4 User ID: 52530071 United States 11/17/2020 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Here's a good read about the mRna vaccines regarding it's safety as well as efficacy. Quoting: JustLurking1 As Riff mentioned about his uncle intel safety may not be an issue but here's the caveat for approval and fast track use they only ask for short term side effects. Long term, well....take at your own risk. That's were the whole genetic reconfiguration/hijacking might be of a concern. Time will tell. My personal verdict, I will wait a little and observe from a distance. [link to m.jpost.com (secure)] He specifically mentioned Messenger RNA. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72632410 United Kingdom 11/17/2020 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ... Quoting: antivirus201 Nice one riff, a lot of hopium involved in that to be fair. Totally believe that is the desired out come in a perfect world but.. I think we know the variables. He was pretty honest with me about the variables, that this will not be a quick fix, and that things will get worse before they get better. But he went into some very specific details on the science behind the vaccines and why they are not as risky as I thought they were. I still won't be first in line to get my shots, but I feel more confident that this pandemic might not last as long as I've been thinking it will and that the vaccines might eventually prove to be extremely beneficial to mankind beyond Covid. Here, Here to that, I for me cannot wait for this shit to be over I miss my holidays and the pub.. unless it’s above his pay grade and basically sold of as a shill. He’s selling and your buying haha only joking.. but a possibility. A variable to be considered. I want normal back. During a certain scenario a couple of years ago, he had one supervisor that stood between him and direct communication with President Trump. I had the option of joining him as a volunteer on that scenario, but it would have required too much time away from my job. I've known him for 20 years. He's the real deal. Very pro vaccine, if no one will Take it then what this agenda will not happen people will not take it no chance. |
Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States 11/17/2020 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I spoke with a friend of mine in a federal agency recently. I don't want to reveal too much because he will most likely get in trouble if something he says based on knowledge obtained from his job is found posted publicly. He's not even allowed to have a FaceBook account. Those of you who know me know I'm not a LARP-er; those of you who don't can take this with however much salt you want. But he is in a position to know these things. Quoting: Riff-Raff He essentially said that it does not matter whether or not the United States locks down at this point. This winter is going to be brutal as far as the covid numbers are concerned. We're just going to have to buckle up for the bumpy ride and get through it. That being said, he also gave me some hope on the vaccines that are currently in the pipe. He indicated there are just some unknowns that will remain unknowns until they deploy the vaccines on a national scale, and there might be some initial problems with efficacy across all virus strains, but the scientific progress that has been made over the past 10 months has been far more staggering than is generally known. And while we might not get back to "normal" this year or next, we will get back to "normal" sooner than most people think. You all know I am not one for hopium, but I did feel better about our long-term outlook after talking to him. Take that for what it's worth. I keep getting calls from the various VA clinics wanting me to come in for tests. I tell them, "Call me in May, 2021 and let's see if the pandemic is under control". When I tell them how I am self-isolating on my farm, they are envious. When I tell them how we decontaminate anything delivered here, they are surprised. I thank them for their service being at the VA hospital which has to be Virus Central Station with it floating in the air. I now know 12 people who have had the virus, mostly young healthy folks. However, one relative got detectable heart damage. That's all we know of for now. My decision to self-isolate with The Queen looks more and more prudent. We don't really miss leaving the farm except we miss visiting family. My concern for the winter is that I am downwind of Houston where many thousands will be coughing and breathing out viral particles. If the virus really can travel for miles, I could still get infected. One thing that strikes me is that this thread has a bunch of well-informed, intelligent prepper types and they STILL get the virus. I hope and pray that the vaccine efforts are successful. However, I will wait a couple of years before taking one just to make sure its safe. Survival of the Prudent! And I never buy a car from its first model year either...wise move, Darth. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
Riff-Raff
DEFCON 4 User ID: 52530071 United States 11/17/2020 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ... Quoting: Riff-Raff He was pretty honest with me about the variables, that this will not be a quick fix, and that things will get worse before they get better. But he went into some very specific details on the science behind the vaccines and why they are not as risky as I thought they were. I still won't be first in line to get my shots, but I feel more confident that this pandemic might not last as long as I've been thinking it will and that the vaccines might eventually prove to be extremely beneficial to mankind beyond Covid. Here, Here to that, I for me cannot wait for this shit to be over I miss my holidays and the pub.. unless it’s above his pay grade and basically sold of as a shill. He’s selling and your buying haha only joking.. but a possibility. A variable to be considered. I want normal back. During a certain scenario a couple of years ago, he had one supervisor that stood between him and direct communication with President Trump. I had the option of joining him as a volunteer on that scenario, but it would have required too much time away from my job. I've known him for 20 years. He's the real deal. This isn't the current surgeon general from Indy, Riff? LOL j/k LMAO. Nope. Wrong agency. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States 11/17/2020 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ... Quoting: antivirus201 Here, Here to that, I for me cannot wait for this shit to be over I miss my holidays and the pub.. unless it’s above his pay grade and basically sold of as a shill. He’s selling and your buying haha only joking.. but a possibility. A variable to be considered. I want normal back. During a certain scenario a couple of years ago, he had one supervisor that stood between him and direct communication with President Trump. I had the option of joining him as a volunteer on that scenario, but it would have required too much time away from my job. I've known him for 20 years. He's the real deal. This isn't the current surgeon general from Indy, Riff? LOL j/k LMAO. Nope. Wrong agency. Thanks for sharing, Riff, it's appreciated. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 11/17/2020 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 PA-5900 case. travel restrictions.masks mandatory both in and outside if around aznyone u do not live with. Quoting: JAZZz50 at current rate,PA will run out of icu beds in DEC. Whats the point if schools are still open if they are,i take it u now have to wear the mask all the time in class.not til u sit down. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |