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So could our resident medics/scientists Dutchy and CC answer this.

I found conflicting info on the vax from all the headlines and info out out from the companies.

Some are saying that you still get infected but you have a mild does as rhe anitbodys kick in, fighting it faster.

Others say its your immune and dont catch it at all..

So yeah just as i work it, some other statement muddys the waters.

The public think its immunity?

Great if you could have your thoughts. Cheers
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I think we need the actual study..... since the headlines are so conflicting.
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Japan's daily coronavirus infections reaches 2,189, highest ever -NHK

OH-dear
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But their culture!

But they use masks!

But yeah..... /s
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Lots of 5G too

I'll suggest again

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ THE ABOVE POSTED ARTICLE

on Radiation dangers of 5G

It Convincingly shows DIRECT correlation

Between areas of greatest 5G saturations

And numbers of sick with CV-19

and numbers of DED are GREATEST in these areas.

Dammit, go read it.

NEW INFO


Here, I'll make it easier for ya


[link to radiationdangers.com]

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So could our resident medics/scientists Dutchy and CC answer this.

I found conflicting info on the vax from all the headlines and info out out from the companies.

Some are saying that you still get infected but you have a mild does as rhe anitbodys kick in, fighting it faster.

Others say its your immune and dont catch it at all..

So yeah just as i work it, some other statement muddys the waters.

The public think its immunity?

Great if you could have your thoughts. Cheers
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


I think we need the actual study..... since the headlines are so conflicting.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I was afraid you say that.

You think if it was such good news, they have the stuide up and ready for public viweing
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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So could our resident medics/scientists Dutchy and CC answer this.

I found conflicting info on the vax from all the headlines and info out out from the companies.

Some are saying that you still get infected but you have a mild does as rhe anitbodys kick in, fighting it faster.

Others say its your immune and dont catch it at all..

So yeah just as i work it, some other statement muddys the waters.

The public think its immunity?

Great if you could have your thoughts. Cheers
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


I think we need the actual study..... since the headlines are so conflicting.
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I was afraid you say that.

You think if it was such good news, they have the stuide up and ready for public viweing
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


I think they are waiting to see if they get the Emergency Use Authorization..... because if they don’t maybe they don’t want to showthe reason they didn’t get it..... lest stocks tumble.
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Dog owners who walk pooches at higher risk of contracting COVID-19: study

Dog owners who walk their pooches are 78% more likely to come down with COVID-19, a new study claims.

[link to nypost.com (secure)]


The spread of SARS-CoV-2 in Spain: Hygiene habits, sociodemographic profile, mobility patterns and comorbidities

Highlights
• Living with a COVID-19 patient increased the risk of contagion by 60 times.
• Walking the dog increases the risk of contagion of COVID-19 by 78%.
• The most effective hygiene measure was disinfecting products purchased.
• Working on site at the workplace increased the risk of contagion by 76%.
• Obtaining basic products using home delivery service raised the risk of contagion.

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I’m thinking Fomites
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Don’t let this get lost.
Interesting info
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NORAD’s Santa site is scheduled to go live December 1st.

The call center will be small this year...... but there will be recorded messages. And they added more activities to their website.

Track Santa 2020: NORAD making adjustments to live tracker due to COVID-19

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DUTCHY, do u have any research handy that tells us how long the virus survives in air with the colder temps? we kknow it lates longer on surfcaes,but did anyone run scenarios for tha cold air?

was thinking of this today as ppl walk out of stores and remove the masks. that virus doesn't die fast like it would in summer with sun and heat.
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Pretty sure in here somehwere, I posted a link to a website that would calculate the time in the site based on temp and humidity.
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Oh good. We'll wait right here while you go dig that up. (Jk.) chuckle
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Lol!
Yeah. It’s kinda hard to find stuff. I usually just try to find it on the internet again.
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Dog owners who walk pooches at higher risk of contracting COVID-19: study

Dog owners who walk their pooches are 78% more likely to come down with COVID-19, a new study claims.

[link to nypost.com (secure)]


The spread of SARS-CoV-2 in Spain: Hygiene habits, sociodemographic profile, mobility patterns and comorbidities

Highlights
• Living with a COVID-19 patient increased the risk of contagion by 60 times.
• Walking the dog increases the risk of contagion of COVID-19 by 78%.
• The most effective hygiene measure was disinfecting products purchased.
• Working on site at the workplace increased the risk of contagion by 76%.
• Obtaining basic products using home delivery service raised the risk of contagion.

[link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]
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I’m thinking Fomites
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Don’t let this get lost.
Interesting info
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It’s not just FOMITES.

There is an innate bias that a person is safer at home. Within 5 miles of home, a majority of people let their guard down.

Take the delivery for instance......

Most folks aren’t masked up. And they are huffing and puffing. So the person thinks they are safe at home..... stands on their porch .... after delivery and gets a big old dose of the drivers huffing and puffing vectors.

I do think FOMITES add to the issue (dog inside after a walk is woof), but I think the primary issue the safety bias. “Oh I don’t need a mask at home”.
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The coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and BioNTech appears to protect 94% of adults over 65 years old

Wow few days and whoosh now its 94% wow amazing

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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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So could our resident medics/scientists Dutchy and CC answer this.

I found conflicting info on the vax from all the headlines and info out out from the companies.

Some are saying that you still get infected but you have a mild does as rhe anitbodys kick in, fighting it faster.

Others say its your immune and dont catch it at all..

So yeah just as i work it, some other statement muddys the waters.

The public think its immunity?

Great if you could have your thoughts. Cheers
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


I think we need the actual study..... since the headlines are so conflicting.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I was afraid you say that.

You think if it was such good news, they have the stuide up and ready for public viweing
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


I think they are waiting to see if they get the Emergency Use Authorization..... because if they don’t maybe they don’t want to showthe reason they didn’t get it..... lest stocks tumble.
 Quoting: CleverCreator



From an interview with the chief executive of BioNTech, 

As a scientist and from extrapolation of what we have seen so far from other viruses, I would expect a high efficacy in preventing disease translates into at least some efficacy in preventing infection. I’m very confident that transmission between people will be reduced by such a highly effective vaccine – maybe not 90% but maybe 50%

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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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State of Origin decider: Game III will be the world's largest sporting event since COVID-19 began


52,000 people are expected at Brisbane's Lang Park stadium tonight

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'A catastrophic situation': COVID-19 threatens to overwhelm Canada's health system

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Just an potentially interesting read

Knowledge and perceptions of COVID-19 among government employees in Ethiopia

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Heart Medicine

Because..... damn it.

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Playing devils advocate here but....What if these vaccines do work?

Perhaps it’s a case of let’s throw everything at this otherwise it’s going to be a global economic disaster far worse than it has been so far unless it’s stopped.

It makes you wonder if cancer was such an economic disaster instead of being such a successful industry we may throw everything at it to get a cure....

Having said that, reading comments on articles about the vaccine in different places (Twitter, news websites, FB etc) it would appear the general consensus is largely scepticism over such a speedy vaccine.

The sheep are going to need convincing or conditioning.
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So could our resident medics/scientists Dutchy and CC answer this.

I found conflicting info on the vax from all the headlines and info out out from the companies.

Some are saying that you still get infected but you have a mild does as rhe anitbodys kick in, fighting it faster.

Others say its your immune and dont catch it at all..

So yeah just as i work it, some other statement muddys the waters.

The public think its immunity?

Great if you could have your thoughts. Cheers
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


I think we need the actual study..... since the headlines are so conflicting.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I was afraid you say that.

You think if it was such good news, they have the stuide up and ready for public viweing
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


Surely you still get the virus but your immune system is ready as it has been exposed to a piece of it via the vaccine and antibodies are already there. The size of your immune response from the vaccine will dictate how much the virus will replicate and how bad you get COVID.
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Exeter Nightingale hospital is to open next week. Plans for Bristol to open are expected.....

UK Keep Calm Sma
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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So my city leaders are going to take it to the wire before instituting new restrictions. These are the "tripwires" needed before they do anything:

"A 7-day rolling average of 450 new cases a day, based on the date of the test

A 40% increase of new cases over a seven day period

A reproductive rate, or R-number, of 1.4 or higher

A positivity rate of 18% or higher

As of Nov. 11, the latest data available, Shelby County was averaging 366 cases daily based on the date the test specimen was collected."

The reproductive rate is hovering around 1.2, and the positivity rate as of Nov.7, the latest data available, is 19.9%

I think the weasels have slipped out the backdoor of the trailer and are going nuts. Some of the data is 11 days old at this point. Damn it all.
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Update for region because what happens in MS has an impact on Memphis.

"According to Dr. Dobbs, transmission of COVID-19 in Mississippi is spreading through mass gathering events. During the week of November 6-12, the majority of the cases were linked to churches, family gatherings, sporting events and social events."

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Also woke up in highway medians doing 60 mph I think 3 times. Another doing 40 on a country road, lost in Oklahoma.

It's what I do Best when I travel.

Get Lost! no GPS, no maps hardly anywhere these days


BECAUSE 'everyone has a smart phone'

But I did buy 2 good map books off EPay pretty cheap.
Always been good with maps.

Like $15 when they are $60 -$80 in truck stops?
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That's a good reminder to have good quality hard-copy maps and a good quality compass in your preps, especially bug-out preps. I recommend having high-detail county maps for the state in which you live as well. Knowing some basic celestial navigation techniques isn't bad either.

I keep a GPS unit included with other electronic items in a faraday cage/safe. I have no illusions about it actually being able to connect to satellites in the event of an EMP, but it will still contain digital maps in its memory that can be used to navigate manually.
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HNRY make sure to watch for mice in the storage. also, if u store water,store in plastuic bags and buckets. thios way if it does freeze and bust the bottle,u can salvage the water.plus it saves a mess later depending what is stored.

went to check my stocks and tighten some today.added some moth balls too.
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when I unpacked my trailer at Unks' had a mouse in my stuff.

His whole house is full of them. Into my things while there real bad. Cats are learning though. 2 young kittens.
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We keep most of our bulk foods stored in sealed plastic totes with extra-large desiccant containers inside to control moisture. Keeps the mice out and we have to replace the desiccant about once a year. Haven't seen any insects inside them yet either.
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So could our resident medics/scientists Dutchy and CC answer this.

I found conflicting info on the vax from all the headlines and info out out from the companies.

Some are saying that you still get infected but you have a mild does as rhe anitbodys kick in, fighting it faster.

Others say its your immune and dont catch it at all..

So yeah just as i work it, some other statement muddys the waters.

The public think its immunity?

Great if you could have your thoughts. Cheers
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


more than 1 vax. imply the benefits of vax A,give vax B.

it is 2020,political double talk with a twist.
JAZZZ50

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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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The commissioners join a chorus of other local elected officials who are also seeking help, relief or flexibility from Gov. Greg Abbott, who has not broadly addressed the new wave of COVID-19 cases since his Oct. 7 decision to allow local elected officials the choice to reopen bars.

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Japan's daily coronavirus infections reaches 2,189, highest ever -NHK

OH-dear
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But their culture!

But they use masks!

But yeah..... /s
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Lots of 5G too

I'll suggest again

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ THE ABOVE POSTED ARTICLE

on Radiation dangers of 5G

It Convincingly shows DIRECT correlation

Between areas of greatest 5G saturations

And numbers of sick with CV-19

and numbers of DED are GREATEST in these areas.

Dammit, go read it.

NEW INFO


Here, I'll make it easier for ya


[link to radiationdangers.com]
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


Sorry, Henry, but Indianapolis was one of the very first 5G deployment areas and we are nowhere close to highest number of cases or deaths from Covid.

Also, 5G doesn't exist in some areas of the world where the virus is so out of control that we can't even get accurate figures (Brazil, Indian, Iran, etc.)

Correlation is not causation. The 5G/Covid CT has been thoroughly debunked.
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Taneja said Tuesday that 92% of intensive-care beds in Tarrant County are occupied. Just 36 are available, and just three for children, in a county of more than 2 million people.
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Raging virus cases in Texas strain state health care system

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I know that over the weekend patients were sent to Denver and New Orleans, because it is full here.
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New images from inside intensive care wards in Houston show the grim reality of the battle against the virus, which the state is currently losing.
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New images from inside intensive care wards in Houston show the grim reality of the battle against the virus, which the state is currently losing.
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I finally find the perfect job for me..... and this virus won’t let me be me!

So many prayers for these folks.

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'A catastrophic situation': COVID-19 threatens to overwhelm Canada's health system

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this is concerning. CANADA dealt with SARS more than the US. hence their ppl were more ready to take this virus seriously. the social distancing and masks are more accepted there than the US. for example, the boats at Niagara Falls- US side crowded,Canada side- empty.

for Canada to b this bad spells DOOM for the US. the safety protocals must b failing. the US is not even trying to avoid the virus. if the north country is failing while the ppl do take the virus serious,imagine how bad we will be.

hospitals there were more ready as well due to Toronto having the SARS outbreak.they made changes before the virus even started. if they are losing the battle, we will b 100 times worse.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Exeter Nightingale hospital is to open next week. Plans for Bristol to open are expected.....

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Not surprised.
But they won't have the staff will they?

Did any in the north open since they been hit hard
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)





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