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Uncle intel. Expect EUAs to be approved on December 8,9, or 10. First jabs to start right after. Then we watch infection rates over the next months. And hospitalizations.
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With the new announcement, the company now has accumulated 170 infections in the study -- and said only eight of them occurred in volunteers who got the actual vaccine rather than a dummy shot. One of those eight developed severe disease, the company said.

This is going to be neutralizing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78356959


8 out of how many in the group.

How do they know the others have been 1 infected and beat it. 2 never caught it due to the vaccine.


Really for a full test they should pack these people in a room with 3 or 4 covid people and see what happens.
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Could someone clarify something for me, I am a little confused.

"has accumulated 170 infections in the study -- and said only eight of them occurred in volunteers who got the actual vaccine rather than a dummy shot"

How did they test this?

I take it they actually deliberately infected each volunteer, as in injected them with covid, or had an infected person spit in their mouth?

Otherwise, if they just waited for the people to get infected "naturally" out in public, surely that's statistically invalid then?

We know randomness clusters, and if they just waited on "natural infections" how do they know the vaccine group simply hadn't gotten in enough contact with infected yet?

Like we can go about our days, and not get infected, it doesnt make us immune, just not enough contact yet.
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Good evening and welcome to page 11 6 11!
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Good evening!

PALINDROME DANCE.
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Sometimes..... a few get it right.....

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We're having a blizzard here right now. Very heavy winds with blowing snow. Still, the mood is good hf Today's numbers are as follows. Russia has a total of 1 991 998 cases, which is 20 985 more than last time. Of those 1 501 083 people have recovered and 34 387 have passed away. Approaching two million soon, with daily cases seeming to level out for now.
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I love blizzards! Wish I was there. Stay warm!
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I'll be happy to let you know, Riff, when southeastern Wisconsin is going to have one, it's a short trip.

We normally get one or two per winter.
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This is the second one in a month here. It's cozy when one can stay safe and warm and doesn't have to go anywhere. Huddle up with a hot cup of tea yeah.
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That sounds lovely! I don't get much snow. It is usually ice, which isn't lovely.
hf
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We're having a blizzard here right now. Very heavy winds with blowing snow. Still, the mood is good hf Today's numbers are as follows. Russia has a total of 1 991 998 cases, which is 20 985 more than last time. Of those 1 501 083 people have recovered and 34 387 have passed away. Approaching two million soon, with daily cases seeming to level out for now.
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I love blizzards! Wish I was there. Stay warm!
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I'll be happy to let you know, Riff, when southeastern Wisconsin is going to have one, it's a short trip.

We normally get one or two per winter.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


This is the second one in a month here. It's cozy when one can stay safe and warm and doesn't have to go anywhere. Huddle up with a hot cup of tea yeah.
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That sounds lovely! I don't get much snow. It is usually ice, which isn't lovely.
hf
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With the new announcement, the company now has accumulated 170 infections in the study -- and said only eight of them occurred in volunteers who got the actual vaccine rather than a dummy shot. One of those eight developed severe disease, the company said.

This is going to be neutralizing.
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8 out of how many in the group.

How do they know the others have been 1 infected and beat it. 2 never caught it due to the vaccine.


Really for a full test they should pack these people in a room with 3 or 4 covid people and see what happens.
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Challenge trails are unethical. It's a efficient shortcut but also a very slippery slope to get onto.
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I remember the UK started some i think.... not sure who with.
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Irish company to develop world’s first human challenge trial for Covid-19... [link to www.irishtimes.com (secure)]
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Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers

A total of 3030 participants were randomly assigned to the recommendation to wear masks, and 2994 were assigned to control; 4862 completed the study. Infection with SARS-CoV-2 occurred in 42 participants recommended masks (1.8%) and 53 control participants (2.1%). The between-group difference was −0.3 percentage point (95% CI, −1.2 to 0.4 percentage point; P = 0.38) (odds ratio, 0.82 [CI, 0.54 to 1.23]; P = 0.33). Multiple imputation accounting for loss to follow-up yielded similar results. Although the difference observed was not statistically significant, the 95% CIs are compatible with a 46% reduction to a 23% increase in infection.

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'no assessment of whether masks could decrease disease transmission from mask wearers to others.'

This is where a lot of people trip up on the logic. Most of these measures are not designed to intervene in your chance of getting infected, there is a element of luck/chaos in there. The main goal is to limit the spread through the population.

If you limit the problem at the macro level the impact at a micro level follows, but people want the micro effect here and now.
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With the new announcement, the company now has accumulated 170 infections in the study -- and said only eight of them occurred in volunteers who got the actual vaccine rather than a dummy shot. One of those eight developed severe disease, the company said.

This is going to be neutralizing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78356959


8 out of how many in the group.

How do they know the others have been 1 infected and beat it. 2 never caught it due to the vaccine.


Really for a full test they should pack these people in a room with 3 or 4 covid people and see what happens.
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


Could someone clarify something for me, I am a little confused.

"has accumulated 170 infections in the study -- and said only eight of them occurred in volunteers who got the actual vaccine rather than a dummy shot"

How did they test this?

I take it they actually deliberately infected each volunteer, as in injected them with covid, or had an infected person spit in their mouth?

Otherwise, if they just waited for the people to get infected "naturally" out in public, surely that's statistically invalid then?

We know randomness clusters, and if they just waited on "natural infections" how do they know the vaccine group simply hadn't gotten in enough contact with infected yet?

Like we can go about our days, and not get infected, it doesnt make us immune, just not enough contact yet.
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This is pretty much why some of us are wanting more data. Overall the effectiveness demonstrated is significant but to assume it will extrapolate well is overly optimistic.
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Minks have won this battle..but will they win the war?

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Covid AKI

Acute kidney injury with COVID-19 shows potential for ‘lifetime’ impact

Of the study population, 32% developed AKI with 58%, 13% and 16% having stage 1, stage 2 and stage 3 disease, respectively; 12% required kidney replacement therapy.

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i want to go back to HNRY's posts from late last night and this morning. this may help someone. t also explains some of the mindset of shills.

my reverse CT theory- to function, it plays on the emotions of ppl. the more connected emotionally to any intel,the more likely u will be to believe it.

in HNRY's case he apparently has been reading some dis-info sites and info. because of his dis-trust to the govern,he accepts that data. even thou HNRY knows the virus is real, he reads an article bout the virus being fake and being used by TPTB to control and take away rights.

for a reverse CT to work, it must havwe some truths added in, and then words to pull at your emotions mixed in.then your emotions take over to stop u from fully thinking clearly. hatred and anger at the govern overrides the logic.

have seen this play out with others. they know the virus is real and dangerous. they start to gear up their preps. then the govern orders masks and other rules. "not my rights and freedoms". they read dis-info and buy into it because of the emotional connections that the govern is bad,control ,etc. so they put away the masks and do the opposite of what they themself know would avoid the virus. just to spite the govern even thou logiocally they are risking their lives.

they fail to realize they are falling for tricks by TPTB even as they think they are fighting against them. TPTB know this and have used the dis-info network to get ppl killed. it has caused confusion so ppl can not see str8.
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The virus can be real and they can use it to bring in the Great Reset. In fact, documents prove they planned it years ago.
The media tries to paint people as saying it’s not real. It’s real. And the Great Reset is real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78356959


yes logic says both points can exist. hence why the reverse CT pulls at your emotions to control your behavior. i have seen ppl go 180 on the virus. they know better but think they are fighting against TPTB and controls.

what frustrates me is these ppl are seen by 1,000's of followers. their words and ideas have weight and impacts many many others.

for instance- they know the masks ppl are using don't work,so they wear none. instead of using the N-95/P1100 that they do have and advising others to do the same.

logic breaksdown due to the dis-info campaign pulling at emotions.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


See. We agree on some angles. I just believe, and I’ve read the science, that the vaccines work. In fact mRNA is a giant leap in medical science and will be used to stop the flu, some heart disease, and some cancers. It’s either a miracle or a curse. I choose miracle.
But the Great Reset is real and people need to read up on it.
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Is this what you are referring to? "As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons. Drawing from the vision and vast expertise of the leaders engaged across the Forum’s communities, the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.".... [link to www.weforum.org (secure)]
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How is the media, and Biden, not screaming for N95 masks? They even told some people the N95/100 couldn’t be used if it has an outlet valve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78356959


This is true, N95/100 masks only filter incoming air, not outgoing. Therefore you are protecting yourself but not others if you wear one.

However, with the sheer number of idiots wearing their masks incorrectly or just refusing to wear them at all, I have no problems wearing such a mask.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff

If you filter the virus from the air when you breath in through an N95/100 mask, surely, unless you are infected, you breath out virus-less air?
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England starting to lvl/slowed up.



I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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How is the media, and Biden, not screaming for N95 masks? They even told some people the N95/100 couldn’t be used if it has an outlet valve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78356959


This is true, N95/100 masks only filter incoming air, not outgoing. Therefore you are protecting yourself but not others if you wear one.

However, with the sheer number of idiots wearing their masks incorrectly or just refusing to wear them at all, I have no problems wearing such a mask.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff

If you filter the virus from the air when you breath in through an N95/100 mask, surely, unless you are infected, you breath out virus-less air?
 Quoting: Lago


Theoretically, yes. But N95/100s are only 95-100% against particulates/droplets carrying the virus, they are not that effective against lone viral particles floating in the air. So it is still possible to breathe in viral particles through an N100 mask.

That being said, the protection factor is still pretty high and will definitely decrease viral load. The gamble is that the protection factor is sufficiently high enough that, combined with self-isolation and social distancing, I will not be exposed to a high enough viral load to get infected, therefore I am not really at a high risk for exposing others through the non-filtered exhalation valve.

Wearing an N95/100 does not allow me to engage in riskier behavior. It merely reduces my odds of being infected by a much greater factor than wearing a mere surgical mask would when I must interact with others in a grocery store or work environment.
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The virus can be real and they can use it to bring in the Great Reset. In fact, documents prove they planned it years ago.
The media tries to paint people as saying it’s not real. It’s real. And the Great Reset is real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78356959


yes logic says both points can exist. hence why the reverse CT pulls at your emotions to control your behavior. i have seen ppl go 180 on the virus. they know better but think they are fighting against TPTB and controls.

what frustrates me is these ppl are seen by 1,000's of followers. their words and ideas have weight and impacts many many others.

for instance- they know the masks ppl are using don't work,so they wear none. instead of using the N-95/P1100 that they do have and advising others to do the same.

logic breaksdown due to the dis-info campaign pulling at emotions.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


See. We agree on some angles. I just believe, and I’ve read the science, that the vaccines work. In fact mRNA is a giant leap in medical science and will be used to stop the flu, some heart disease, and some cancers. It’s either a miracle or a curse. I choose miracle.
But the Great Reset is real and people need to read up on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78356959

Is this what you are referring to? "As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons. Drawing from the vision and vast expertise of the leaders engaged across the Forum’s communities, the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.".... [link to www.weforum.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


Yes.
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How is the media, and Biden, not screaming for N95 masks? They even told some people the N95/100 couldn’t be used if it has an outlet valve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78356959


This is true, N95/100 masks only filter incoming air, not outgoing. Therefore you are protecting yourself but not others if you wear one.

However, with the sheer number of idiots wearing their masks incorrectly or just refusing to wear them at all, I have no problems wearing such a mask.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff

If you filter the virus from the air when you breath in through an N95/100 mask, surely, unless you are infected, you breath out virus-less air?
 Quoting: Lago


Theoretically, yes. But N95/100s are only 95-100% against particulates/droplets carrying the virus, they are not that effective against lone viral particles floating in the air. So it is still possible to breathe in viral particles through an N100 mask.

That being said, the protection factor is still pretty high and will definitely decrease viral load. The gamble is that the protection factor is sufficiently high enough that, combined with self-isolation and social distancing, I will not be exposed to a high enough viral load to get infected, therefore I am not really at a high risk for exposing others through the non-filtered exhalation valve.

Wearing an N95/100 does not allow me to engage in riskier behavior. It merely reduces my odds of being infected by a much greater factor than wearing a mere surgical mask would when I must interact with others in a grocery store or work environment.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Exactly correct. It’s one tool of many. I’m amazed when I hear people think a mask alone protects them.
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Japan's daily coronavirus infections reaches 2,189, highest ever -NHK

OH-dear
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But their culture!

But they use masks!

But yeah..... /s
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Lots of 5G too

I'll suggest again

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ THE ABOVE POSTED ARTICLE

on Radiation dangers of 5G

It Convincingly shows DIRECT correlation

Between areas of greatest 5G saturations

And numbers of sick with CV-19

and numbers of DED are GREATEST in these areas.

Dammit, go read it.

NEW INFO


Here, I'll make it easier for ya


[link to radiationdangers.com]
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I need more data before I accept the 5G hypothesis.

However, you have inspired me to use my EMF meter and find out how much RF I am absorbing.

Too much RF is always a bad idea.
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Dutchy....

You might like these opinion reads

Postlicensure Evaluation of COVID-19 Vaccines

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Postapproval Vaccine Safety Surveillance for COVID-19 Vaccines in the US

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Japan's daily coronavirus infections reaches 2,189, highest ever -NHK

OH-dear
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79558702


But their culture!

But they use masks!

But yeah..... /s
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Lots of 5G too

I'll suggest again

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ THE ABOVE POSTED ARTICLE

on Radiation dangers of 5G

It Convincingly shows DIRECT correlation

Between areas of greatest 5G saturations

And numbers of sick with CV-19

and numbers of DED are GREATEST in these areas.

Dammit, go read it.

NEW INFO


Here, I'll make it easier for ya


[link to radiationdangers.com]
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


I need more data before I accept the 5G hypothesis.

However, you have inspired me to use my EMF meter and find out how much RF I am absorbing.

Too much RF is always a bad idea.
 Quoting: darth


What's the frequency range and sensitivity on your EMF meter? I have one that runs from the low MHz to the GHz range, but it's purpose is to find hidden transmitters and cameras, so it's not very sensitive beyond about a meter or so. I don't think I have one that will measure ambient EMF levels.
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Japan's daily coronavirus infections reaches 2,189, highest ever -NHK

OH-dear
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79558702


But their culture!

But they use masks!

But yeah..... /s
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Lots of 5G too

I'll suggest again

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ THE ABOVE POSTED ARTICLE

on Radiation dangers of 5G

It Convincingly shows DIRECT correlation

Between areas of greatest 5G saturations

And numbers of sick with CV-19

and numbers of DED are GREATEST in these areas.

Dammit, go read it.

NEW INFO


Here, I'll make it easier for ya


[link to radiationdangers.com]
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


I need more data before I accept the 5G hypothesis.

However, you have inspired me to use my EMF meter and find out how much RF I am absorbing.

Too much RF is always a bad idea.
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And Earth’s heartbeat has also increased over the past few decades. I don’t know what studies were done recently.
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Japan's daily coronavirus infections reaches 2,189, highest ever -NHK

OH-dear
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79558702


But their culture!

But they use masks!

But yeah..... /s
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Lots of 5G too

I'll suggest again

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ THE ABOVE POSTED ARTICLE

on Radiation dangers of 5G

It Convincingly shows DIRECT correlation

Between areas of greatest 5G saturations

And numbers of sick with CV-19

and numbers of DED are GREATEST in these areas.

Dammit, go read it.

NEW INFO


Here, I'll make it easier for ya


[link to radiationdangers.com]
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


I need more data before I accept the 5G hypothesis.

However, you have inspired me to use my EMF meter and find out how much RF I am absorbing.

Too much RF is always a bad idea.
 Quoting: darth

A counterpoint on 5G...The role of 5G for digital healthcare against COVID-19 pandemic: Opportunities and challenges.. [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]
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Dutchy....

You might like these opinion reads

Postlicensure Evaluation of COVID-19 Vaccines

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Postapproval Vaccine Safety Surveillance for COVID-19 Vaccines in the US

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Thanks.
Brain is sore now.
Good read
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Covid AKI

Acute kidney injury with COVID-19 shows potential for ‘lifetime’ impact

Of the study population, 32% developed AKI with 58%, 13% and 16% having stage 1, stage 2 and stage 3 disease, respectively; 12% required kidney replacement therapy.

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My friend who got the virus in Jan. on a bus with a bunch of coughing Chinese tourists lost kidney function and is expected to die within one year.

Even he commented that the Chinese tourists did not seem like the normal, more affluent tourists. He believes that China may have sent infected people out into the world to spread the virus on purpose.

A plausible CT considering how malignant the CCP is!
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The German equivalent of the FDA is about to approve Pfizer and Moderna vaccines but Coumo doesn’t trust it. Laughable.
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Suck it vaccine doubters!

Pfizer and BioNTech say their vaccine is '95% effective' and has passed safety checks
The US and German biotech firms, which are collaborating on the project, have said that the vaccine has passed phase three of trials, meeting "all primary efficacy endpoints." Pfizer says it will be applying for approval from authorities in the US and EU "within days."

Thank you President Trump
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Of course they are going to say that. The proof will be after months and months of people getting the vaccine with no serious adverse effects. Only then would I even consider getting this vaccine.
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The German equivalent of the FDA is about to approve Pfizer and Moderna vaccines but Coumo doesn’t trust it. Laughable.
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Are we back to trusting the Germans?
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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...


But their culture!

But they use masks!

But yeah..... /s
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Lots of 5G too

I'll suggest again

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ THE ABOVE POSTED ARTICLE

on Radiation dangers of 5G

It Convincingly shows DIRECT correlation

Between areas of greatest 5G saturations

And numbers of sick with CV-19

and numbers of DED are GREATEST in these areas.

Dammit, go read it.

NEW INFO


Here, I'll make it easier for ya


[link to radiationdangers.com]
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


I need more data before I accept the 5G hypothesis.

However, you have inspired me to use my EMF meter and find out how much RF I am absorbing.

Too much RF is always a bad idea.
 Quoting: darth


What's the frequency range and sensitivity on your EMF meter? I have one that runs from the low MHz to the GHz range, but it's purpose is to find hidden transmitters and cameras, so it's not very sensitive beyond about a meter or so. I don't think I have one that will measure ambient EMF levels.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


This is the one I bought:

[link to stopsmartmeters.org (secure)]

I don't have time to do more research. Gotta go care for my livestock and kill that egg-stealin' squirrel.





GLP