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It seems people forget they haven't got the flu shot right so how in the hell are they going to get it right for this freak of nature?
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Just so this is clear in all this confusion. I'm not anti Vax. My standards to get a vaccine are literally it kills 1/10 vs 1.1/10 go for it. That said those are never the odds. We face long term effects vs. short term, Infected vs infectius and all sorts of arbitrary limits. Even if they were getting a vac would/could only really matters in hingsight when somebody dies.

Vaccines are designed to greatly limit the impact of infetions on the population. When given at scale it's normal to see side effects in some of the recipients. Overall seeing a adverse reaction as medically defined is almost preferable because it confirms that there is a reaction.

When the disease goes away, the apparent choice becomes a lot harder. Is the side effect of the jab (medical induced side effect of vac) worth it for you. The answer is rather simple. We vaccinate against the stuff that made most people die before age 10 a century ago. If you think your kid is special and doesn't need a jab, don't put them in a school with other people.

Your kid not having a mild side effect from a vaccine might cause another kid to die from a disease your simple minded stance allowed to spread again. And it's not a few kids. ~50%+ died of things that are nothing now.
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Duchy that was deep. I follow all angles. I am behind you on this mate.
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nodding

Still going to wait for data and sit it out. My gut don’t like this year anyways.
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Gimme data over opinions etc. there are a thousand ways to eliminate bad outcomes. Data is less divisive unless you insist on listening to others. Can you guys get your shit together and do democracy again? It gets very fucking messy if you can't. K.Thnx.Bye.
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You haven’t had an original thought in all of your posts.

Your level of Optimism is deadly, but you don’t seem to grasp that deep of a concept.
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"She" did run off and create three threads after ignoring my post here asking her a few pointed but sincere questions however...
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hugs

Shitshow
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The Russian vaccine was 93% effective. Ish
How well has a nation done with a vaccine up to now. Even with over 90% effective. Shit spreads to quickly. It will out do logistics over n over.
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Russian vaccine developer said that immunity only comes six weeks after the first of two injections, East2West News reported, citing health officials.... [link to nypost.com (secure)]
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Just so this is clear in all this confusion. I'm not anti Vax. My standards to get a vaccine are literally it kills 1/10 vs 1.1/10 go for it. That said those are never the odds. We face long term effects vs. short term, Infected vs infectius and all sorts of arbitrary limits. Even if they were getting a vac would/could only really matters in hingsight when somebody dies.

Vaccines are designed to greatly limit the impact of infetions on the population. When given at scale it's normal to see side effects in some of the recipients. Overall seeing a adverse reaction as medically defined is almost preferable because it confirms that there is a reaction.

When the disease goes away, the apparent choice becomes a lot harder. Is the side effect of the jab (medical induced side effect of vac) worth it for you. The answer is rather simple. We vaccinate against the stuff that made most people die before age 10 a century ago. If you think your kid is special and doesn't need a jab, don't put them in a school with other people.

Your kid not having a mild side effect from a vaccine might cause another kid to die from a disease your simple minded stance allowed to spread again. And it's not a few kids. ~50%+ died of things that are nothing now.
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I agree. Lest we forget, the death toll from the 1918 flu pandemic is typically estimated to have been somewhere between 17 million and 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million, making it one of the deadliest pandemics in human history. In addition, it came in four waves and the worlds population was considerably smaller.

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I don’t remember seeing this, although it has been a long 19 days.
From Nov 1st:

Doctors Begin to Crack Covid’s Mysterious Long-Term Effects

Estimates about the percentage of Covid-19 patients who experience long-haul symptoms range widely. A recent survey of more than 4,000 Covid-19 patients found that about 10% of those age 18 to 49 still struggled with symptoms four weeks after becoming sick, that 4.5% of all ages had symptoms for more than eight weeks, and 2.3% had them for more than 12 weeks. The study, which hasn’t yet been peer reviewed, was performed using an app created by the health-science company Zoe in cooperation with King’s College London and Massachusetts General Hospital.

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Why try and convince people not to clean surfaces?

The Coronavirus Is Airborne Indoors. Why Are We Still Scrubbing Surfaces?

Scientists who initially warned about contaminated surfaces now say that the virus spreads primarily through inhaled droplets, and that there is little to no evidence that deep cleaning mitigates the threat indoors.

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Today we see USA over 200k cases...
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Hey y'all..still here. Busy this week. Went through my food preps to rotate. Trying to get stuff moved around to get out Christmas decorations.

Still following the thread as always. Just quiet. Not sick.

Thanksgiving has a lot of connotations from the past for me that I will spare y'all the details. One is both my parents' birthdays are coming up and they are both long gone. Alot of tumultous memories, some happy some sad. I have enough in the present to deal with, just trying to dodge the germs out there.

Thought I would post a few articles:

Florida almost hit 10k yesterday..
[link to www.clickorlando.com (secure)]

Florida reports 9,085 new COVID-19 cases as state preps for vaccine
81 new deaths reported

still looking for today's numbers in the sunshine state

some analysis for FL by age groups:

[link to www.tampabay.com (secure)]

707 cases in PBC schools:
[link to www.palmbeachschools.org (secure)]

This site says 708, but I am not seeing that number...the article points out how high the cases are here and yet schools are open
[link to bocanewsnow.com (secure)]

Glad my daughter graduated when she did, since there's a clusters pretty much everywhere, including the exclusive Palm Beach Day Academy on the island:

[link to palmbeachcivic.org (secure)]


Virginia cases 2nd highest today
[link to www.wavy.com (secure)]
Virginia Nov. 20 COVID-19 update: 2,544 new coronavirus cases reported, 2nd highest single-day increase

[link to www.vdh.virginia.gov (secure)]

interesting bits:

"Let's Make A Deal" started showing new episodes this week as well as "The Price Is Right"--I thought Drew Carey had transformed into a double for Grizzly Adams.
I saw the end of the show today and it was rather bittersweet/poignant how Drew summed it up--pulling a mask out of his pocket. They were using (on low volume) some kind of audience sounds and the contestants came from backstage rather than the audience. I didn't see all of it just a few bits. They did have two Nintendo Switches as a starter prize to bid on with a couple of games: actual retail price $695

Disney bringing back park hopping: where you can visit two parks in the same day starting January 1st

the cruise ship Fantasy stopped in Southhampton the yesterday on her way back to FL.

[link to www.dailyecho.co.uk (secure)]


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This video doesn't really do the horns justice because of the wind sound; in person it is *very* loud...

You all are still well and truly loved!

hf
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Hello?

Did I do something wrong?

I was hoping for a response to my first post to have something to talk to you guys...hope everyone is ok, because I ain't...I want to talk about what's bothering me, but I better not..this is glp...I already have said too much about myself...I keep typing stuff and then cutting it...this is glp...no, I am not looking for anything, I should just stfu...I always liked the way you could talk about stuff and get honest responses without fear of sh*t like on FB, which especially for me I have to had remained silent all the years FB is around

..idk what is going on with all the snark against the treehugger..definitely those posts read fake....this is glp...

Just glad to see the thread is plugging on....but if in order to post I have to pick one more picture containing a motorcycle I will throw up...my longtime friends will get that as well as I have had something in common with Riff for almost a month now...I don't want to talk about it other than to say think a positive thought towards me, if not too much trouble...

I may come back and delete this, no good deed goes unpunished seems to be my life anymore...

Actually came on to do something else I usually do on here at night...the karma thing 'cause it's more or less free to give...

but since I'm here, might as well post
No schools closing here

[link to www.wptv.com (secure)]

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Palm Beach County leaders on Friday said there are no plans, at this point, to return students to all virtual education as COVID-19 cases surge in our area.

During a news conference at the county's Emergency Operations Center, Mayor Dave Kerner was asked if there's any chance the School District of Palm Beach County will return to distance learning only, similar to when the 2020-21 academic year started in August.
less than 50%


and since everything's open, we will probably get a larger migration of snowbirds this year...

I freaking wish Pelosi hadn't spoiled talking about ice cream because I would have enjoyed talking about it....I should have bought an ice cream maker and a breadmaker at Goodwill when I had the chance...
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hugs your loved,I come here because all my friends are stupid minded, we are unique.
Free thinkers. Few and far between.
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DEMOCRACY??? since when did we have that? we left that a few centuries ago.we are given a choice between criminals and clowns who to lead us. then they dictate down to other crooks that again we had to choose between. then those dictate to local leaders,that we might pick. but the local leaders have no power but to do as they are told by the crook above. that ain't a demopcracy,specially with our system rigged.

it never was a true democracy. it is a democratic republic. watch this- RUSSIA is also a republic. USSR- Union of Soviet Socialist Republic. it's all a snow job.

want the good news? TRUMP was the ppl's last hope. even the sheep are waking up to that fact.

hell we gave up capitalism almost 100 yrs ago.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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It seems people forget they haven't got the flu shot right so how in the hell are they going to get it right for this freak of nature?
 Quoting: dyin


Different virus, different outcome.

We kicked the shit out of smallpox and polio.

Maybe we dodged a bullet here.

I would never get a flu shot, but I'll take one for the team and get the COVID jab if I'm offered one of the first few rounds.

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The Coronavirus Is Airborne Indoors. Why Are We Still Scrubbing Surfaces?

Scientists who initially warned about contaminated surfaces now say that the virus spreads primarily through inhaled droplets, and that there is little to no evidence that deep cleaning mitigates the threat indoors.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
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can we test this by having TB lick cold foor knobs and railings? we can do a before the shot and after to b sure it works too.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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RW has been sniffing moose butts again.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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RW has been sniffing moose butts again.
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Hey man, don't knock it 'till you try it.

Moose
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The Coronavirus Is Airborne Indoors. Why Are We Still Scrubbing Surfaces?

Scientists who initially warned about contaminated surfaces now say that the virus spreads primarily through inhaled droplets, and that there is little to no evidence that deep cleaning mitigates the threat indoors.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
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can we test this by having TB lick cold foor knobs and railings? we can do a before the shot and after to b sure it works too.
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I am going to assume Bark Bark.....

TB is ours.

Bark Bark can lick a toilet seat.
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For Fuck’s Sake..... do some inner work. Only you can help yourself.

Just do your best. And be a decent soul. Don’t forget the comfort food.

Last call before we reach the 40% out sick..... it’s closer than you realize.
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For Fuck’s Sake..... do some inner work. Only you can help yourself.

Just do your best. And be a decent soul. Don’t forget the comfort food.

Last call before we reach the 40% out sick..... it’s closer than you realize.
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before the ppl from across the pond wake the wizard up again they should remember who saved em last time. and now GERMANY owns all of EU,well except UK. cause we saved em and the countries sold themselves back out to the very nation we saved em from. WTF talk bout dumb dumbs
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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It seems people forget they haven't got the flu shot right so how in the hell are they going to get it right for this freak of nature?
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Different virus, different outcome.

We kicked the shit out of smallpox and polio.

Maybe we dodged a bullet here.

1dunno1
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Just going off skimming. The influenza virus i much bigger than sars/cov2 so mitigation efforts to stop covid had a. Knock effect . Mask mandate would /should minimise spread.

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DEMOCRACY??? since when did we have that? we left that a few centuries ago.we are given a choice between criminals and clowns who to lead us. then they dictate down to other crooks that again we had to choose between. then those dictate to local leaders,that we might pick. but the local leaders have no power but to do as they are told by the crook above. that ain't a demopcracy,specially with our system rigged.

it never was a true democracy. it is a democratic republic. watch this- RUSSIA is also a republic. USSR- Union of Soviet Socialist Republic. it's all a snow job.

want the good news? TRUMP was the ppl's last hope. even the sheep are waking up to that fact.

hell we gave up capitalism almost 100 yrs ago.
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"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
Democracy is the worst form of government in the world. Except for all the rest." Churchill
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there iws 75% chance that wood chuck ain't even human. i give it 10% chance it is kids from mt weather doing school work in the bunker.5% that it is the comp that voted for BIDEN.
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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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It seems people forget they haven't got the flu shot right so how in the hell are they going to get it right for this freak of nature?
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Different virus, different outcome.

We kicked the shit out of smallpox and polio.

Maybe we dodged a bullet here.

1dunno1
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Just going off skimming. The influenza virus i much bigger than sars/cov2 so mitigation efforts to stop covid had a. Knock effect . Mask mandate would /should minimise spread.
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It's Not the size of the Water

It's the Motion of the Ocean

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Jobs of the future?

Judge seeks to reimpose El Paso curfew as Texas troops sent to morgue, 500 apply for morgue jobs

On Friday evening, the judge told ABC-7 that the Medical Examiner’s Office had 240 bodies filling up both the main morgue and nine mobile morgues currently in place.

Commissioner David Stout said the county also hoped to hire and have as many as 25 morgue attendants in place by Monday after receiving 500 applications for the newly-created temporary jobs in less than 24 hours. The positions will pay nearly $30 an hour.

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Friday night doom break! Remember when I announced at the end of October that I was becoming a crafter? Well, I have completed two crafts so far. A macrame' wall hanging and an embroidery of wildflowers. So pretty!

I'm not as productive as Darth, but it keeps me off the streets and out of jail. chuckle

I started my third project yesterday.....a crewel embroidery, which uses a particular wool yarn rather than thread. I really like this one.

Welp, I've come a long way from drinking and smoking at The Dock (only Tarnished Halo will understand that), but it's good enough for a pandemic.

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there iws 75% chance that wood chuck ain't even human. i give it 10% chance it is kids from mt weather doing school work in the bunker.5% that it is the comp that voted for BIDEN.
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Sorry, can you apply a cypher code to that?
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there iws 75% chance that wood chuck ain't even human. i give it 10% chance it is kids from mt weather doing school work in the bunker.5% that it is the comp that voted for BIDEN.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Jazz

Every notice that no prominent Dems has got it...

They're on Walnut Sauce

burnit
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LOL. You are too much. :)
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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there iws 75% chance that wood chuck ain't even human. i give it 10% chance it is kids from mt weather doing school work in the bunker.5% that it is the comp that voted for BIDEN.
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Sorry, can you apply a cypher code to that?
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the thing with the loggin name of TreeBark is most likely a computer not a human. thou it is possable it is children doing school work from the bunker at Mt Weather where all the data on everyone is stored.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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Friday night doom break! Remember when I announced at the end of October that I was becoming a crafter? Well, I have completed two crafts so far. A macrame' wall hanging and an embroidery of wildflowers. So pretty!

I'm not as productive as Darth, but it keeps me off the streets and out of jail. chuckle

I started my third project yesterday.....a crewel embroidery, which uses a particular wool yarn rather than thread. I really like this one.

Welp, I've come a long way from drinking and smoking at The Dock (only Tarnished Halo will understand that), but it's good enough for a pandemic.

lmao
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u didn't start on gunpowder or swords yet?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.





GLP