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Guys just reading the news the USA is going on full locked sometime in the next 30 days
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Yeah right only way that is going to happen is if martial law is declared and I don't even think that will be enough to keep people locked inside.

Everyone is crazy and doesn't give a shit in the USA. There isn't enough military to control everyone with covid brain.
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over 20% of new infections in the UK are the new strain.
Looks like this is a new mutation in the UK and we exported it to the EU


No link but was said in a press conference today.
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team mink too soon?

Sure press release is being prepped.
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Its from one of the little islands i follow.
So wont be a press link.

They pretty good at letting the cat out of the bag
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Again times a million.....

Herd immunity is by far the most inept and dangerous thing with this virus. And technically everyone government has tried it.... albeit more on the down low to fuck us as we go.

I think Lago was sounding UD and Jackally this day..... I am agreeing.....

Avoid infection, if you can.....

Now if you have multiple members of a household, then that’s a conversation y’all have to have.

But seriously..... if you are still thinking bubbles work..... no. They don’t.

PPE and proper decon are your only in-person friends that you should have at the moment.

Yeah .... it sucks. No. I am not having fun. But since when has being responsive ever been “fun”.
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Scary part is that "Herd" may be the only way out

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People need to learn their terms.

Q: What is herd immunity?

Manish Sadarangani: Herd immunity describes how a population is protected from a disease after vaccination by stopping the germ responsible for the infection being transmitted between people. In this way even people who cannot be vaccinated can be protected.

However, for herd immunity to work a large proportion of the population need to be vaccinated.

[link to www.ovg.ox.ac.uk (secure)]

So please explain how you eradicate a disease without herd immunity?
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Yes you can eradicate a disease from herd immunity.

However, it needs to be controlled because left unabated equals high mortality.

Capisce?
 Quoting: JustLurking1


Right. So "herd immunity" is actually how it must be done. The questions are how and what tools are used. Now what tools do we have to limit disease and spread and worked over the history of modern man?
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Nah you can cut off it's food supply. Which in this case is humans. Herd immunity means you accept you are powerless other then to accept biological processes. In the case of vaccination you aid this process, but it does mean you accept that the bug will always be around. Would have been better to isolate and starve it out from the start by simply finding those infected and making sure they do not infect others.
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The virus is so damn contagious, with the added problem of asymptomatic infection, that I would have thought by the time it was discovered it was already too late to attempt any realistic way to starve and stop the virus from spreading.
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Yes you can eradicate a disease from herd immunity.

However, it needs to be controlled because left unabated equals high mortality.

Capisce?
 Quoting: JustLurking1


Right. So "herd immunity" is actually how it must be done. The questions are how and what tools are used. Now what tools do we have to limit disease and spread and worked over the history of modern man?
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Nah you can cut off it's food supply. Which in this case is humans. Herd immunity means you accept you are powerless other then to accept biological processes. In the case of vaccination you aid this process, but it does mean you accept that the bug will always be around. Would have been better to isolate and starve it out from the start by simply finding those infected and making sure they do not infect others.
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The virus is so damn contagious, with the added problem of asymptomatic infection, that I would have thought by the time it was discovered it was already too late to attempt any realistic way to starve and stop the virus from spreading.
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Check out New Zealand.
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People need to learn their terms.

Q: What is herd immunity?

Manish Sadarangani: Herd immunity describes how a population is protected from a disease after vaccination by stopping the germ responsible for the infection being transmitted between people. In this way even people who cannot be vaccinated can be protected.

However, for herd immunity to work a large proportion of the population need to be vaccinated.

[link to www.ovg.ox.ac.uk (secure)]

So please explain how you eradicate a disease without herd immunity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69517882



Yes you can eradicate a disease from herd immunity.

However, it needs to be controlled because left unabated equals high mortality.

Capisce?
 Quoting: JustLurking1


Right. So "herd immunity" is actually how it must be done. The questions are how and what tools are used. Now what tools do we have to limit disease and spread and worked over the history of modern man?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69517882


Well, in this case. Since we know immunity from infection is short live (2 months) and on some who had it really bad, maybe longer. Herd immunity might be short live via actual infection.

Herd immunity can also be achieved through vaccines but that's still up in the air too as we observe the efficacy via mass vaccinations


Here's a link for you:


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You guys keep forgetting you can't get herd immunity from a gain of function bioweapon!
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Right. So "herd immunity" is actually how it must be done. The questions are how and what tools are used. Now what tools do we have to limit disease and spread and worked over the history of modern man?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69517882


Nah you can cut off it's food supply. Which in this case is humans. Herd immunity means you accept you are powerless other then to accept biological processes. In the case of vaccination you aid this process, but it does mean you accept that the bug will always be around. Would have been better to isolate and starve it out from the start by simply finding those infected and making sure they do not infect others.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


The virus is so damn contagious, with the added problem of asymptomatic infection, that I would have thought by the time it was discovered it was already too late to attempt any realistic way to starve and stop the virus from spreading.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79042304


Check out New Zealand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69517882


Check out Hawaii

It's easy to lock down an Island

Much harder to keep the economy up and running

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You guys keep forgetting you can't get herd immunity from a gain of function bioweapon!
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dying

Spot on

burnit
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Word

17 States now with an RT Below 1.0

RT Wave IS flatenning

California is now getting the wave of the Italian Strain that has infected it's way through the Midwest...West...West Coast
that has been prevalent in the East since July or before

Kinda' like 5G...Hnry is gonna' love this

But there is now Nationwide Coverage of the Italian Strain

It's Burning Through...you see it...I see it

Fauci just said have your Damn Christmas

Fuck Fauci

burnit
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I guess Biden won't be getting Moderna

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You guys keep forgetting you can't get herd immunity from a gain of function bioweapon!
 Quoting: dyin


dying

Spot on

burnit
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Fight Fire with Fire

Jab Me

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Florida reports 3rd most coronavirus cases ever in single day; resident deaths top 100 again

Florida’s resident death toll from coronavirus rose to 20,305 with the addition of 101 more reported fatalities on Thursday while also adding 13,148 more positive COVID-19 cases to bring the total to 1,168,483.

The Florida Department of Health has only twice before reported single-day totals higher: 13,965 on July 16 and the record 15,300 on July 12.
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Of no interest to Americans, except one line saying Charles and Camilla wore goggles as well as masks for part of the visit


Prince Charles WILL take vaccine and lead by example - but admits he's 'way down' list


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What dolphins can teach us about surviving COVID-19

When Terrie Williams began hearing about the wide range of symptoms experienced by patients with COVID-19, she saw a connection between the various ways the disease is affecting people and the many physiological adaptations that have enabled marine mammals to tolerate low oxygen levels during dives.

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Wife's been getting pretty good at it

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Vaccine pricing the EU pays the various companies leaked. The full article is here but it's not all that informative or expensive: [link to translate.google.com (secure)]

AstraZeneca is selling at cost, ~1.78EU or ~2.2USD per dose.

Pfizer and Moderna are different tech, so cost price could be different but they are asking 18/15USD per dose.
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WTF! CA with THE MOST lockdowns in the US and this is happening, when are people going to admit lockdowns are NOT WORKING! Stupid cloth masks ARE NOT WORKING! You can never control this virus...it will do what it will do...Spread and mutate!

Cloth masks are not effective enough, only N95 or better, you can never control human nature to socialize, the vaccine cannot be deployed fast and en-mass to prevent mutations or the rapid spreading....

We are all hopeful but realistically the virus must run its course...we as a society try to limit the damage but in the end we are along for the ride!
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The media is filled with morons.

Here are the data. And, there is no reason to believe the vaccine only protects for 2 months at all.

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Right. So "herd immunity" is actually how it must be done. The questions are how and what tools are used. Now what tools do we have to limit disease and spread and worked over the history of modern man?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69517882


Nah you can cut off it's food supply. Which in this case is humans. Herd immunity means you accept you are powerless other then to accept biological processes. In the case of vaccination you aid this process, but it does mean you accept that the bug will always be around. Would have been better to isolate and starve it out from the start by simply finding those infected and making sure they do not infect others.
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The virus is so damn contagious, with the added problem of asymptomatic infection, that I would have thought by the time it was discovered it was already too late to attempt any realistic way to starve and stop the virus from spreading.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79042304


Check out New Zealand.
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I was talking about the initial virus discovery and spread.
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So you guys see our nuclear security agency was hacked?

Think they'll start launching our nukes at us whoever is responsible??
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New Zealand Economy Rebounds, Expanding 14% in 3Q

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Sometimes the person that worked on the Moderna vaccine totally torches idiots on twitter



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So you guys see our nuclear security agency was hacked?

Think they'll start launching our nukes at us whoever is responsible??
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This year is so crazy. I'd like to say that I wouldn't be surprised at anything at this point. But, I'm afraid the universe would take it as a challenge!
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So you guys see our nuclear security agency was hacked?

Think they'll start launching our nukes at us whoever is responsible??
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No. It means another country can nuke us and we can't respond. We're now vulnerable to a first strike.

Unless the Ohio class will still launch when they don't get an update.
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Vaccine pricing the EU pays the various companies leaked. The full article is here but it's not all that informative or expensive: [link to translate.google.com (secure)]

AstraZeneca is selling at cost, ~1.78EU or ~2.2USD per dose.

Pfizer and Moderna are different tech, so cost price could be different but they are asking 18/15USD per dose.
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I wonder what the cost of production/development differences are. hmm





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