Anonymous Coward User ID: 79792014 Brazil 12/21/2020 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315
Okay, now we have a COVID-19 mutation that appears to be 70% more aggressive than the previous one, and is threatening the UK and Germany. The vaccine must be ineffective for this new mutation, which makes the most critical scenario. Now connect the dots, does anyone remember that a few weeks ago the government of Denmark had to sacrifice 17 million minks? Exactly 17 million animals that, according to them, were infected with A NEW MUTATION OF COVID-19, and that could be fatal, because if it spread to humans, it would render the vaccine ineffective. It is worth remembering that the government spent a fortune of billions to sacrifice animals. So some questions arise, such as how did they identify that the minks had a new virus mutation? Did anyone just reslve to test? Who infected the minks? How do you know that a new strain of the virus has now emerged, if when a person does a test for COVID-19, that test only says POSITIVE or NEGATIVE, and says nothing about whether it is the X or Y or Z mutation? Coincidence? What if this contagion of the minks was actually a test to see the effectiveness of this new CREATED mutation? Okay, you may ask yourself, "why test on millions of animals, if only a few pairs would be enough?", However, it may be the case of a test to find out how the virus would behave in a population, that is, millions , 17 million, in this case. What if ... the test was done and is now being implemented? What if... [ link to www.bbc.com (secure)] |
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dyin
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 Can't wait to see this interact with the new virus variant!!! Real world testing!!!!!!!!!! Truth never damages a cause that is just |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48925535 United States 12/21/2020 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 "OWS is not just about vaccines, but also therapeutics," said HHS Secretary Azar, before announcing that more than 400,000 #Covid19 antibody treatments have been allocated to states and territories |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70811853 United States 12/21/2020 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 There is nothing to suggest that the new strain will affect the Covid-19 vaccine, he said, but there was a “theoretical potential” that people who had Covid could be reinfected by this strain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48925535 United States 12/21/2020 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Azar Says By End Of Second Quarter Believes There Would Be Enough COVID-19 Vaccine For Everyone Who Wishes To Be Vaccinated
Hawaii, here we come! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48925535 United States 12/21/2020 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 There is nothing to suggest that the new strain will affect the Covid-19 vaccine, he said, but there was a “theoretical potential” that people who had Covid could be reinfected by this strain. Quoting: Cock Goblin Natural immunity and vaccine immunity are different. A person probably didn't have anti-bodies for the entire spike protein like the vaccine provides. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78144857 United States 12/21/2020 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 There is nothing to suggest that the new strain will affect the Covid-19 vaccine, he said, but there was a “theoretical potential” that people who had Covid could be reinfected by this strain. Quoting: Cock Goblin These fuckers have outweighed their welcome in terms of their assumptions. They have been wrong the entire way. The whole fucking way. All their assumptions WRONG. These fucks cant even come out and say it is a bioweapon still. Pleebs and sheep hear your masters. |
dyin
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48925535 United States 12/21/2020 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 There is nothing to suggest that the new strain will affect the Covid-19 vaccine, he said, but there was a “theoretical potential” that people who had Covid could be reinfected by this strain. Quoting: Cock Goblin Natural immunity and vaccine immunity are different. A person probably didn't have anti-bodies for the entire spike protein like the vaccine provides. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 Until that spike protein mutates to something the vaccine antibodies don't recognize.... Which seems to be what may be happening with the UK strain. Quoting: dyin Yeah, I'm gonna go with the virologists on this one. |
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There is nothing to suggest that the new strain will affect the Covid-19 vaccine, he said, but there was a “theoretical potential” that people who had Covid could be reinfected by this strain. Quoting: Cock Goblin Natural immunity and vaccine immunity are different. A person probably didn't have anti-bodies for the entire spike protein like the vaccine provides. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 Until that spike protein mutates to something the vaccine antibodies don't recognize.... Which seems to be what may be happening with the UK strain. Quoting: dyin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70811853 United States 12/21/2020 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Five areas of England now have more than 1,000 cases per 100,000 amid warnings virus 'out of control' [ link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70811853 United States 12/21/2020 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 There is nothing to suggest that the new strain will affect the Covid-19 vaccine, he said, but there was a “theoretical potential” that people who had Covid could be reinfected by this strain. Quoting: Cock Goblin Natural immunity and vaccine immunity are different. A person probably didn't have anti-bodies for the entire spike protein like the vaccine provides. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 Until that spike protein mutates to something the vaccine antibodies don't recognize.... Which seems to be what may be happening with the UK strain. Quoting: dyin Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 The Covid-19 Genomics UK (COG-UK) consortium said it is difficult to predict whether any given mutation is important when it first emerges and that it would take “considerable time and effort to test the effect of many thousands of combinations of mutations”. It said the biggest concern is any changes that lead to an increase in reinfections or vaccine failure and that most attention is on mutations in the gene that encodes the spike protein. |
Dosha
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 We can agree to disagree. You say hero, I say guinea pig along with her baby. Dosha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78442813 Switzerland 12/21/2020 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 still a nothingburger |
Dosha
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 But is there evidence it will work? Seems like the jury is out on both sides of this coin. Dosha |
dyin
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The situation took a turn for the worse when Jobo says he followed her down the road and began ramming her four-door Hyundai repeatedly. When she managed to drive away, back down Milt Stegall Drive toward Sargent, she says he followed her.
"It was traumatizing," she said.
Jobo took off speeding, and says she was pursued by the man. She blew through stop signs, she says, going up to 80 kilometres per hour southbound on Valour Road, while being repeatedly rammed from behind, causing her to hit a number of other cars parked on the street. [ link to www.cbc.ca (secure)] Truth never damages a cause that is just |
Texan Buckeye
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There is a very, very strong correlation between the areas in the UK showing the fastest growth in Covid cases and this new coronavirus variant, according to Professor Neil Ferguson, a member of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag).
He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: The analysis we've collectively (been) undertaking in the last week has shown it would be very unlikely for this just to be a chance event.
He said the fact that the standard swab test 'behaves differently' with the new variant meant that they had been able to track it and the data shows that case numbers of this variant are growing much, much faster than case numbers of the old viruses.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79041524 has shown it would be very unlikely for this just to be a chance event -- interesting word choice by Professor Ferguson Quoting: Dosha Also how does it behave differently? Does the swab turn bright purple or something??? SO seems they can detect the new variant easily if the swabs behave a certain way? I want to know what that means..... Quoting: dyin Good catch, Dosha! I read that several times earlier and missed it. Guys, look at the blue highlighted part. Is he saying this new variant is another intentional release? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79785912 12/21/2020 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 There is nothing to suggest that the new strain will affect the Covid-19 vaccine, he said, but there was a “theoretical potential” that people who had Covid could be reinfected by this strain. Quoting: Cock Goblin Natural immunity and vaccine immunity are different. A person probably didn't have anti-bodies for the entire spike protein like the vaccine provides. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 Until that spike protein mutates to something the vaccine antibodies don't recognize.... Which seems to be what may be happening with the UK strain. Quoting: dyin Yeah, I'm gonna go with the virologists on this one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 And that is a failure of rationale...... Only about 10% of the population is considered bright or gifted. And even those folks still have to fight biases. So no.... a virologist might have more detailed understanding of the virus.... that made a few poor assumptions that the bright folks here do their best to not make.... Most virology folks are assuming zero gain of functionality. We ain’t. There, there. You try so hard. They should give you a better assignment. Because while I can’t maths and such.... I can still Intuit a situation better than your white pages. |
millenniumjackal
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Texan Buckeye
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78442813 Hi, darlin'. Sorry I've missed you for awhile. Stay well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79785912 12/21/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 standard swab test behaves differently with the new variant
There is a very, very strong correlation between the areas in the UK showing the fastest growth in Covid cases and this new coronavirus variant, according to Professor Neil Ferguson, a member of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag).
He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: The analysis we've collectively (been) undertaking in the last week has shown it would be very unlikely for this just to be a chance event.
He said the fact that the standard swab test 'behaves differently' with the new variant meant that they had been able to track it and the data shows that case numbers of this variant are growing much, much faster than case numbers of the old viruses.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79041524 has shown it would be very unlikely for this just to be a chance event -- interesting word choice by Professor Ferguson Quoting: Dosha Also how does it behave differently? Does the swab turn bright purple or something??? SO seems they can detect the new variant easily if the swabs behave a certain way? I want to know what that means..... Quoting: dyin Good catch, Dosha! I read that several times earlier and missed it. Guys, look at the blue highlighted part. Is he saying this new variant is another intentional release? Quoting: Texan Buckeye Odds are no. As much as I hate Gates, this is just a gain of function issue. It means they are realizing just how fucking scary it is when an immunodeficiency covid19 person is stewing in this Virus for months..... and shedding too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5110904 United States 12/21/2020 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 The UK just started to vaccinate and now they have a new “Strain” of Covid-19.that’s worse, then the natural one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79785912 12/21/2020 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 The UK just started to vaccinate and now they have a new “Strain” of Covid-19.that’s worse, then the natural one.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5110904 .....new strain was found before vaccine..... |
Rennfield's Cat
User ID: 77791855 United States 12/21/2020 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Soooooo it took a week to vaccinate about 200,000 people in the U.S. which is about the same number of people who are getting infected in a single day.
Anyone else seeing the math problem here?
Unless they pick up the pace it will take 35 years to vaccinate the entire population at that rate.
Quoting: millenniumjackal Agreed, but to be fair, week 1 of a monumentally large logistic effort is going to have some growing pains. Seems there was also some failure of guidance from the Warp Speed team that might have hampered things as well. Rennfield's Cat |
Texan Buckeye
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has shown it would be very unlikely for this just to be a chance event -- interesting word choice by Professor Ferguson
Quoting: Dosha Also how does it behave differently? Does the swab turn bright purple or something??? SO seems they can detect the new variant easily if the swabs behave a certain way? I want to know what that means..... Quoting: dyin Good catch, Dosha! I read that several times earlier and missed it. Guys, look at the blue highlighted part. Is he saying this new variant is another intentional release? Quoting: Texan Buckeye Odds are no. As much as I hate Gates, this is just a gain of function issue. It means they are realizing just how fucking scary it is when an immunodeficiency covid19 person is stewing in this Virus for months..... and shedding too. Quoting: CleverCreator I'm not so sure, CC. I think he's either saying it's a new release OR it's a huge mutation that was coded into the original virus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79602656 12/21/2020 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 The UK just started to vaccinate and now they have a new “Strain” of Covid-19.that’s worse, then the natural one.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5110904 .....new strain was found before vaccine..... Quoting: CleverCreator One might assume that a mutation happened in one of the trial participants |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48925535 United States 12/21/2020 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Dr. Scott Gottlieb says new UK Covid strain ‘will not slip past our vaccines very easily’ [ link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] |
Dosha
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70811853 United States 12/21/2020 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Absolute hero!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48925535 We can agree to disagree. You say hero, I say guinea pig along with her baby. Quoting: Dosha I say both |