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I'm flummoxed that even science seems to be surprised that this virus mutates continually. The aim of any organism is to survive, spread and either out-do or at least dominate its competitors.

The fact that there are variants that primarily affect humans and others that seem to afflict only say cats or birds should make it possible that with enough iterations and species interactions something will evolve that is more this or that or less this, that or the other.

I still say this bug was "evolved" unnaturally.
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This study has not yet been peer reviewed.

Estimated transmissibility and severity of novel SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern 202012/01 in England

We estimate that VOC 202012/01 is 56% more transmissible (95% credible interval across three regions 50-74%) than preexisting variants of SARS-CoV-2.
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Our estimates suggest that control measures of a similar stringency to the national lockdown implemented in England in November 2020 are unlikely to reduce the effective reproduction number Rt to less than 1, unless primary schools, secondary schools, and universities are also closed. We project that large resurgences of the virus are likely to occur following easing of control measures.

[link to cmmid.github.io (secure)]
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LOOK! at the funding...

loads of researchers unded by Bill & Melinda Gates..

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This study has not yet been peer reviewed.

Estimated transmissibility and severity of novel SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern 202012/01 in England

We estimate that VOC 202012/01 is 56% more transmissible (95% credible interval across three regions 50-74%) than preexisting variants of SARS-CoV-2.
..
Our estimates suggest that control measures of a similar stringency to the national lockdown implemented in England in November 2020 are unlikely to reduce the effective reproduction number Rt to less than 1, unless primary schools, secondary schools, and universities are also closed. We project that large resurgences of the virus are likely to occur following easing of control measures.

[link to cmmid.github.io (secure)]
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LOOK! at the funding...

loads of researchers funded by Bill & Melinda Gates..

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YL: Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (INV-003174),
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The paper specifically uses vaccine in their (flawed) modelling to show how the jab gives an edge in controllong the spread.

They must be assuming the antibodies from the vax are neutralising-type antibodies.

What if they are not? Would we be creating a whole army of chronically infected people, harboring the virus for a long time, only to have the damn thing mutate again - like it did in that immune-suppressed person (who had it for 101 days)??

101-day chronic-infukkted caused a mutation: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
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This study has not yet been peer reviewed.

Estimated transmissibility and severity of novel SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern 202012/01 in England

We estimate that VOC 202012/01 is 56% more transmissible (95% credible interval across three regions 50-74%) than preexisting variants of SARS-CoV-2.
..
Our estimates suggest that control measures of a similar stringency to the national lockdown implemented in England in November 2020 are unlikely to reduce the effective reproduction number Rt to less than 1, unless primary schools, secondary schools, and universities are also closed. We project that large resurgences of the virus are likely to occur following easing of control measures.

[link to cmmid.github.io (secure)]
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LOOK! at the funding...

loads of researchers funded by Bill & Melinda Gates..

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YL: Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (INV-003174),
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79224394


The paper specifically uses vaccine in their (flawed) modelling to show how the jab gives an edge in controllong the spread.

They must be assuming the antibodies from the vax are neutralising-type antibodies.

What if they are not? Would we be creating a whole army of chronically infected people, harboring the virus for a long time, only to have the damn thing mutate again - like it did in that immune-suppressed person (who had it for 101 days)??

101-day chronic-infukkted caused a mutation:
WRONG-LINK--- [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
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oops. wrong link... Can't edit...

101-day long infection results in mutation:
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Yet another new COVID-19 variant seems to have developed, this one in Nigeria

Another new variant of the coronavirus appears to have emerged in Nigeria, Africa's top public health official said Thursday, but he added that further investigation was needed.

"It's a separate lineage from the U.K. and South Africa," the head of the Africa Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, John Nkengasong, told reporters.

"Give us some time. ... It's still very early," he said.

The alert about the apparent new variant was based on two or three genetic sequences, he said, but that and South Africa's alert late last week were enough to prompt an emergency meeting of the Africa CDC this week.

Unlike the variant seen in the U.K., "we haven't observed such rapid rise of the lineage in Nigeria and do not have evidence to indicate that the P681H variant is contributing to increased transmission of the virus in Nigeria. However, the relative difference in scale of genomic surveillance in Nigeria vs the U.K. may imply a reduced power to detect such changes," the paper says.

For the first time since confirming sub-Saharan Africa's first virus case in February, Nigeria is in the spotlight during this pandemic as infections surge.

"Over recent weeks, we've had a huge increase in number of samples to (Nigeria CDC) reference lab," the CDC director-general Chikwe Ihekweazu tweeted on Thursday. "This has led to an unusual delay with testing, but we're working around the clock," with many colleagues cutting short their holidays and returning to work.

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Another virus variant discovered in Nigeria

According to the pan-African health organization Africa CDC, another new variant of the coronavirus is circulating in Nigeria. It looks like it evolved separately from the virus mutants in South Africa and the UK, says Africa CDC head John Nkengasong. However, there is still little data on it and further research is being carried out. The variant was discovered in two patient samples taken in August and October, according to a report from researchers in Nigeria. How widespread the new variant is in Nigeria or in other countries is not yet known.
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Another virus variant discovered in Nigeria

According to the pan-African health organization Africa CDC, another new variant of the coronavirus is circulating in Nigeria. It looks like it evolved separately from the virus mutants in South Africa and the UK, says Africa CDC head John Nkengasong. However, there is still little data on it and further research is being carried out. The variant was discovered in two patient samples taken in August and October, according to a report from researchers in Nigeria. How widespread the new variant is in Nigeria or in other countries is not yet known.
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I think we going to see this all more in the headlines all the time for a few weeks.

Which will dilute the big changes.

Media will ram it down the public.

And when a strain comes about that is a huge problem we the public will be like "yeah we had 20 now its not big deal"

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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

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So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

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Quick translation: "I've been lying my ass off because I didn't think people could 'handle the truth', but that's ok because I'm from the government and I'm here to help all you stupid people..."


And they wonder why people are hesitant to consider a vaccine?

Really?

"Oh, well we've only told the total truth about the vaccine, yup, we sure wouldn't edit any of our comments on a subject like THAT."

Clowns.
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Another virus variant discovered in Nigeria

According to the pan-African health organization Africa CDC, another new variant of the coronavirus is circulating in Nigeria. It looks like it evolved separately from the virus mutants in South Africa and the UK, says Africa CDC head John Nkengasong. However, there is still little data on it and further research is being carried out. The variant was discovered in two patient samples taken in August and October, according to a report from researchers in Nigeria. How widespread the new variant is in Nigeria or in other countries is not yet known.
 Quoting: Anonymer Feigling


I think we going to see this all more in the headlines all the time for a few weeks.

Which will dilute the big changes.

Media will ram it down the public.

And when a strain comes about that is a huge problem we the public will be like "yeah we had 20 now its not big deal"
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Truth, media keeps crying wolf, people react less and less. Here's to hoping this virus devolves into just another harmless coronavirus.
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Another virus variant discovered in Nigeria
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hallo human. my name is beebo, king of the coronavirus. you may have heard of dangerous new virus strain in medias.

as king of coronavirus i can protect you from this terrible affliction for the low low cost of just ten thousands us dollar, payable in itune gift card or western union.

if you do not take my generous offers you have no chance to survive.

make your time.
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Another virus variant discovered in Nigeria
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hallo human. my name is beebo, king of the coronavirus. you may have heard of dangerous new virus strain in medias.

as king of coronavirus i can protect you from this terrible affliction for the low low cost of just ten thousands us dollar, payable in itune gift card or western union.

if you do not take my generous offers you have no chance to survive.

make your time.
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how many of these variants,as they seem to be called now, are there?

i counted about 5 as of yesterday. the original Wuhan, wave 2 that was more contagious,UK,BRAZIL,ISRAEL. add 2 more SA,Nigeria. so 7?

verdict seems to point to more contatgious. that could b good or bad. most viruses as they get to be more contagious,are less deadly or harmful. however,this is a Bio-virus.

even if a nation has immunity from 1 version,they would b weakened and any other will spread like wild fire.compounds the death rates and overwhelms the hospitals.
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Haha class, I will give that ago tonight.
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Ohhhh..the irony.

China has suspended flights from the UK
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I'm flummoxed that even science seems to be surprised that this virus mutates continually. The aim of any organism is to survive, spread and either out-do or at least dominate its competitors.

The fact that there are variants that primarily affect humans and others that seem to afflict only say cats or birds should make it possible that with enough iterations and species interactions something will evolve that is more this or that or less this, that or the other.

I still say this bug was "evolved" unnaturally.
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Yep. This is what happens when viruses are engineered for gain of function.
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Was weeks, the month, then two months, then 4 months, then 6 months..

Now..

WHO chief scientist warns against Covid complacency, says herd immunity unlikely until end-2021

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And initially, we were all told, "two weeks to flatten the curve".
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Was weeks, the month, then two months, then 4 months, then 6 months..

Now..

WHO chief scientist warns against Covid complacency, says herd immunity unlikely until end-2021

[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
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(Disclaimer... not directed at Guythu... this phrase now fucking auto populates in my word choices.... super fans ... my pad is smarter than y’all)

If the information survives .... this dark time will be known as

NOTHING BUT BAD FUCKING IDEAS WITH BAD BIASES
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Hers immunity. It’s a real thing and the only thing. Derp.
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Hers the thing about HERD immunity..... you might achieve it based infection rate, but in the process you have guaranteed shorter lifespans and it is extremely likely (with this virus) that 40% or more of your population is now disabled and a shit ton are going to need oxygen FOR LIFE.

So no.... you cannot achieve a happy go lucking herd immunity with China Psycho Virus.
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Is this more Becuase they are now looking for gnome


Or has it just gone crazy in the last 3 months


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The virus mutates frequently when spreading between people. The vast majority of mutations don't change the virus in a significant way. In the case of the UK strain that's being talked about recently, it's unusual because this time the virus did change in a significant way.
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And historically, viruses have tended to mutate towards less lethality and infectivity, as viruses tend to die off if they kill too many hosts and cannot spread.
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Is this more Becuase they are now looking for gnome


Or has it just gone crazy in the last 3 months


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The virus mutates frequently when spreading between people. The vast majority of mutations don't change the virus in a significant way. In the case of the UK strain that's being talked about recently, it's unusual because this time the virus did change in a significant way.
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But not in a way that affects vaccines. BOOM
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Womp. thank you, Propoganda Pusher.
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Experts in South Africa warn: 'Maybe the virus is beginning to outsmart us'


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Dude..... someone should tell them that happened last January.
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Haha class, I will give that ago tonight.
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Its almost 2pm for you, AV. Crack one open. We all need to know you are safe and negative.
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Was weeks, the month, then two months, then 4 months, then 6 months..

Now..

WHO chief scientist warns against Covid complacency, says herd immunity unlikely until end-2021

[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


(Disclaimer... not directed at Guythu... this phrase now fucking auto populates in my word choices.... super fans ... my pad is smarter than y’all)

If the information survives .... this dark time will be known as

NOTHING BUT BAD FUCKING IDEAS WITH BAD BIASES
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Hers immunity. It’s a real thing and the only thing. Derp.
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Hers the thing about HERD immunity..... you might achieve it based infection rate, but in the process you have guaranteed shorter lifespans and it is extremely likely (with this virus) that 40% or more of your population is now disabled and a shit ton are going to need oxygen FOR LIFE.

So no.... you cannot achieve a happy go lucking herd immunity with China Psycho Virus.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I think AC meant to say "Hers" immunity. Because its lonely in China what with them having less ladies. AC is trying to build defenses for his longing heart. Oh how he wishes he could find a lady comrade.

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Haha class, I will give that ago tonight.
 Quoting: AV201


Its almost 2pm for you, AV. Crack one open. We all need to know you are safe and negative.
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Dooooooode.... he has to survive Christmas Eve with the kids first!

I am cheating..... movie day here we come. I wanna watch the horrible uncanny valley Christmas Carol.

Little man has watch Polar Express 8 times this month.

AV, what y’all doing today??
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(Disclaimer... not directed at Guythu... this phrase now fucking auto populates in my word choices.... super fans ... my pad is smarter than y’all)

If the information survives .... this dark time will be known as

NOTHING BUT BAD FUCKING IDEAS WITH BAD BIASES
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Hers immunity. It’s a real thing and the only thing. Derp.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78216908


Hers the thing about HERD immunity..... you might achieve it based infection rate, but in the process you have guaranteed shorter lifespans and it is extremely likely (with this virus) that 40% or more of your population is now disabled and a shit ton are going to need oxygen FOR LIFE.

So no.... you cannot achieve a happy go lucking herd immunity with China Psycho Virus.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I think AC meant to say "Hers" immunity. Because its lonely in China what with them having less ladies. AC is trying to build defenses for hid longing heart. Oh how he wishes he could find a lady comrade.
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Ewwwwww. COOOTIES!
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Haha class, I will give that ago tonight.
 Quoting: AV201


Its almost 2pm for you, AV. Crack one open. We all need to know you are safe and negative.
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


Dooooooode.... he has to survive Christmas Eve with the kids first!

I am cheating..... movie day here we come. I wanna watch the horrible uncanny valley Christmas Carol.

Little man has watch Polar Express 8 times this month.

AV, what y’all doing today??
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what do jocks that dislike Christmas say? Brah, humbug.
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Hers immunity. It’s a real thing and the only thing. Derp.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78216908


Hers the thing about HERD immunity..... you might achieve it based infection rate, but in the process you have guaranteed shorter lifespans and it is extremely likely (with this virus) that 40% or more of your population is now disabled and a shit ton are going to need oxygen FOR LIFE.

So no.... you cannot achieve a happy go lucking herd immunity with China Psycho Virus.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I think AC meant to say "Hers" immunity. Because its lonely in China what with them having less ladies. AC is trying to build defenses for hid longing heart. Oh how he wishes he could find a lady comrade.
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


Ewwwwww. COOOTIES!
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yaaay! Cooters!
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Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315
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Hers the thing about HERD immunity..... you might achieve it based infection rate, but in the process you have guaranteed shorter lifespans and it is extremely likely (with this virus) that 40% or more of your population is now disabled and a shit ton are going to need oxygen FOR LIFE.

So no.... you cannot achieve a happy go lucking herd immunity with China Psycho Virus.
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I think AC meant to say "Hers" immunity. Because its lonely in China what with them having less ladies. AC is trying to build defenses for hid longing heart. Oh how he wishes he could find a lady comrade.
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Ewwwwww. COOOTIES!
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yaaay! Cooters!
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