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Fun thing about winter/slippery conditions....seems to make a good situation for a dog blowing an ACL out

whatever
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Maybe someone smarter can clue me in.... If lockdown are needed why isn't everyone already infected? Ppl are eating out and doing things like always.... Anyways we are still watching and waiting n 95 anytime I go inside
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We are easily at 40% infected. 80% by mid to late summer.

Especially with the lamest restrictions that have ever been introduced in a public health disaster b
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CC

Herd?

burnit
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I am sorry the hopium that you dialed does not exist.

No such thing. Not applicable to this virus.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


CC

So no Herd?

Then What?

Gotta' have Hopium

Right?

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I don't know what to think about the current numbers. They're definitely falling from the last peak, but that seems to be a pattern that happens with this virus.

We got a communication from the President of our university about plans for fall, budget worries, and so forth. They're hoping to have some people back on campus in the fall, but said the plans were subject to public safety guidelines, etc. I don't plan to go back in the fall, and have already put in my request to teach online. It seems the department is willing to work with me on that. If need be, I probably have enough sick time accrued to take a semester leave, though I'd hate to have to use it.

I'm rather expecting we'll see another large wave, as the new variants make their way across the US ... particularly since guidelines are being relaxed everywhere. I understand that the logic to reopening (at least in CA) is based on available ICU beds, but it does little to actually control the pandemic.

I'm somewhat hopeful that the vaccines are working -- even if they just slow/reduce infection spread, that would be a major help. I'm paying a lot of attention to how folks are doing after being vaccinated. I have one friend who has immune problems similar to mine -- she had both doses of Pfizer, and has been fine so far. I'm not ready to roll up my sleeve just yet, but am watching and waiting.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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Fun thing about winter/slippery conditions....seems to make a good situation for a dog blowing an ACL out

whatever
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Oh. No!

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I am sorry the hopium that you dialed does not exist.

No such thing. Not applicable to this virus.
 Quoting: CleverCreator

CC

So no Herd?

Then What?

Gotta' have Hopium

Right?
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At least we can all agree that the hangover from hopium isn't nearly as bad as that of kracken abuse.

Kraken:

Not.

Even.

Once.
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I don't know what to think about the current numbers. They're definitely falling from the last peak, but that seems to be a pattern that happens with this virus.
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This is something different though... cases have never fallen this fast.

Now that could be due to the fact that the whole nation had a bad outbreak at the same time, previously when one area was getting better another was getting worse.
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I am sorry the hopium that you dialed does not exist.

No such thing. Not applicable to this virus.
 Quoting: CleverCreator

CC

So no Herd?

Then What?

Gotta' have Hopium

Right?
 Quoting: Cock Goblin


At least we can all agree that the hangover from hopium isn't nearly as bad as that of kracken abuse.

Kraken:

Not.

Even.

Once.

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FSM AGREES.

:fsm:
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I think we are seeing, especially in places like Brazil, that natural herd immunity is not able to be achieved.

Herd immunity through a vax might work, if it is broad spectrum enough to work on the variants. In terms of natural herd immunity, the antibodies don't seem to be robust enough to protect against reinfection with other strains -- or possibly even the same strain -- long-term.

I'm dearly hoping the vax does work, and that the problems are few enough that people can get it safely. I have my reservations, to be sure ... this disease is tricky. It seems to be that the longer term problems are caused by the immune response to the virus, and theoretically, the vax would cause a similar immune response. That could open the door to a lot of longstanding problems for vaccinated people.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

Lenonard Cohen
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NYC has Africa mutation.

CBS reporting 7 variants native to USA. 7
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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LOL about the Kraken!

In all seriousness, I feel sad for the people who really bought into that. As you know, I'm no fan of Trump -- but I do feel for the true believers who were led to believe that a giant victory was going to happen for them. Apparently, some are still pushing that hopium -- I'm not really following that much, but there's a rumor going around about a date in early March when supposedly there is going to be a military coup. There was a thread about it last night. Seems even more far-fetched than the Kraken to me, but some people just won't give up hope.

I hope the new administration can get their shit together to handle this virus. The decline in the rates has nothing to do with the new admin, except maybe the changes in the way testing is done (which was a decision by the WHO, I believe.) Biden is pushing for school reopening, saying it can be done safely. Maybe at a K-12 level, with small classes and good sanitation, it could be -- but certainly not in a packed, badly ventilated, university lecture hall! I don't really buy that it can be done safely even at the lower grade levels.

As many of you parents have said, anything and everything (colds, flu, lice, you name it!) makes the rounds at school and then comes home from there. The same is true at a university level. I teach night classes ... and by the time we get into the classroom, it has been full of a rotating cast of hundreds of students in a single day. If something is going around, it's going to be hanging out in that classroom. The ventilation is next to non-existent (basement rooms, no windows, ancient heating/ac systems that rarely work, etc.)
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

Lenonard Cohen
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Vice President Harris to "Axios on HBO": Trump left no COVID plan


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It's important, I think, to realize that each state IS responsible for issues of public health such as vaccines, how they get administered, etc.

Further, prior to the election there are any number of liberally led states that would have, had the previous administration attempted to impose a "national policy and plan" have immediately screamed, "dictator!!!!!" Along with refusing to comply.

With the change in administration you'll find, on balance, that more conservatively led states may grumble a bit here and there but are more willing to follow whatever "national policy and plan" may be created.

In response to VP Harris I'd have to, objectively, say that she's deliberately misrepresenting reality.
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How convenient that you overlooked the role the Federal Government can play with emergency orders to activate infrastructure to help with distribution. The federal alone has more ability to organize national resources.than at the state level.
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I'll stand with the comments I made.
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However, the researchers suggest that this advantage could eventually become problematic for the virus. This is because its more open and flexible structure could mean that it is more exposed to circulating antibodies.
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If the vaccines do reduce the spread of the virus, “it means that even people [who] aren’t vaccinated will gain protection from the vaccinated people around them,” says Marm Kilpatrick, an infectious diseases researcher at the University of California, Santa Cruz. As more people get vaccinated, they won’t go on to infect as many other people as they might have before the shot, he says.
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I call BullShit when I read it

Well known for years that vaccinations of any sort

Cause people to shed what they were shot up with.

so, BullShit


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LOL about the Kraken!

In all seriousness, I feel sad for the people who really bought into that. As you know, I'm no fan of Trump -- but I do feel for the true believers who were led to believe that a giant victory was going to happen for them. Apparently, some are still pushing that hopium -- I'm not really following that much, but there's a rumor going around about a date in early March when supposedly there is going to be a military coup. There was a thread about it last night. Seems even more far-fetched than the Kraken to me, but some people just won't give up hope.

I hope the new administration can get their shit together to handle this virus. The decline in the rates has nothing to do with the new admin, except maybe the changes in the way testing is done (which was a decision by the WHO, I believe.) Biden is pushing for school reopening, saying it can be done safely. Maybe at a K-12 level, with small classes and good sanitation, it could be -- but certainly not in a packed, badly ventilated, university lecture hall! I don't really buy that it can be done safely even at the lower grade levels.

As many of you parents have said, anything and everything (colds, flu, lice, you name it!) makes the rounds at school and then comes home from there. The same is true at a university level. I teach night classes ... and by the time we get into the classroom, it has been full of a rotating cast of hundreds of students in a single day. If something is going around, it's going to be hanging out in that classroom. The ventilation is next to non-existent (basement rooms, no windows, ancient heating/ac systems that rarely work, etc.)
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Oh. On the lice front.... don’t miss that shit....

LiceMD. Can use daily.... so there aren’t relapses ... especially if you miss one.

Rat bastards.
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And the brain dead said.....
 Quoting: CleverCreator


The man makes a lot of sense

This Bug is being WAY overblown in a way to remove ALL Human rights


And to bring in the Vaccines

Which I am convinced is the REAL Danger

of Genocide.
We've seen it with all the people dying in old folks homes....


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LOL about the Kraken!

In all seriousness, I feel sad for the people who really bought into that. As you know, I'm no fan of Trump -- but I do feel for the true believers who were led to believe that a giant victory was going to happen for them. Apparently, some are still pushing that hopium -- I'm not really following that much, but there's a rumor going around about a date in early March when supposedly there is going to be a military coup. There was a thread about it last night. Seems even more far-fetched than the Kraken to me, but some people just won't give up hope.

I hope the new administration can get their shit together to handle this virus. The decline in the rates has nothing to do with the new admin, except maybe the changes in the way testing is done (which was a decision by the WHO, I believe.) Biden is pushing for school reopening, saying it can be done safely. Maybe at a K-12 level, with small classes and good sanitation, it could be -- but certainly not in a packed, badly ventilated, university lecture hall! I don't really buy that it can be done safely even at the lower grade levels.

As many of you parents have said, anything and everything (colds, flu, lice, you name it!) makes the rounds at school and then comes home from there. The same is true at a university level. I teach night classes ... and by the time we get into the classroom, it has been full of a rotating cast of hundreds of students in a single day. If something is going around, it's going to be hanging out in that classroom. The ventilation is next to non-existent (basement rooms, no windows, ancient heating/ac systems that rarely work, etc.)
 Quoting: Doommonkey

I won't bring the debate to this thread, out of respect for the subject matter.

With that being said, it would be a hoot to hear you defend the actions that biden has taken already, and intends to take in the future.

His policies, in the long run, may prove to be more of a critical issue than the virus.

LOL, indeed.

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And the brain dead said.....
 Quoting: CleverCreator


The man makes a lot of sense

This Bug is being WAY overblown in a way to remove ALL Human rights


And to bring in the Vaccines

Which I am convinced is the REAL Danger

of Genocide.
We've seen it with all the people dying in old folks homes....

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HB....

Way overblown?

Dude.... stay safe. Because it’s not being explained truthfully.

Most of the population thinks that it’s a one and done kind of virus..... that’s the real issue.
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Look what CCP spy Fang Fang’s boyfriend is saying now ...

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Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA) said Monday on MSNBC that both an independent commission and a “white nationalism task force” to investigate the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol were needed.

Anchor Katy Tur said, “So is the House going to just wipe their hands of this now and move on or will there be a 9/11 style commission looking into how it will happen? Is there more investigating that will be done?”


Swalwell said, “There is no moving on. January 6th is a day that we will sadly all remember. I think we have to take an approach that we took like after September 11 and root out white nationalism and terrorism from our country. I believe we need a September 11 commission taken outside of Congress. I think it should be an independent commission outside of Congress.”
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This Bug is being WAY overblown in a way to remove ALL Human rights

And to bring in the Vaccines

Which I am convinced is the REAL Danger
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Yeah, but I've tried way more dangerous chemicals at least twice so why should this one be any different?

I mean... how many people have been killed by vaccines versus vodka?

vodka5
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have all US citizens here prepped for a power outage? extra blankets and lights handy? filled tub with water for toilets,etc?

reading other threads,part of the problem is wind turbines freezing with the ice.there arelots of those scattered across the nation.some states use more renewable energy than others,but we are connected.Biden alrerady screwed the costs up of NG and sold the system to CHINA. best watch our backs.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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i just scared myself. threw a warning out to family. did that quickly without thinking. 1st 1 and those since were due to the virus. hope it ain't a bad omen.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Keep your guard up, don’t believe the numbers.
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have all US citizens here prepped for a power outage? extra blankets and lights handy? filled tub with water for toilets,etc?

reading other threads,part of the problem is wind turbines freezing with the ice.there arelots of those scattered across the nation.some states use more renewable energy than others,but we are connected.Biden alrerady screwed the costs up of NG and sold the system to CHINA. best watch our backs.
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I don't think any area of the US has enough proliferation of wind/solar that if it were all to go offline at once it couldn't be compensated for by simple cycle turbines.
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Keep your guard up, don’t believe the numbers.
 Quoting: General Thade


Anecdotally, I do believe the numbers. A month ago people I knew and clients of mine were having outbreaks all over the place, now I'm not hearing about anything.

Certainly not a peer-reviewed case study but I'll take first hand info over uncle intel any day.
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have all US citizens here prepped for a power outage? extra blankets and lights handy? filled tub with water for toilets,etc?

reading other threads,part of the problem is wind turbines freezing with the ice.there arelots of those scattered across the nation.some states use more renewable energy than others,but we are connected.Biden alrerady screwed the costs up of NG and sold the system to CHINA. best watch our backs.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


I don't think any area of the US has enough proliferation of wind/solar that if it were all to go offline at once it couldn't be compensated for by simple cycle turbines.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


i agree but 2 words-BIDEN n CHINA. which 1 do i need to explain?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Keep your guard up, don’t believe the numbers.
 Quoting: General Thade


Anecdotally, I do believe the numbers. A month ago people I knew and clients of mine were having outbreaks all over the place, now I'm not hearing about anything.

Certainly not a peer-reviewed case study but I'll take first hand info over uncle intel any day.
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Getting Normal in Georgia

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Keep your guard up, don’t believe the numbers.
 Quoting: General Thade


Anecdotally, I do believe the numbers. A month ago people I knew and clients of mine were having outbreaks all over the place, now I'm not hearing about anything.

Certainly not a peer-reviewed case study but I'll take first hand info over uncle intel any day.
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Living That Life

I didn't wear a mask today at work

Getting Normal in Georgia
 Quoting: Cock Goblin


I continue to wear a mask when around clients or the public as I have since this started.

I don't think they do much, but I'm willing to take one for the team just on the off chance they take the R number from 1.01 to 0.99

In the end they aren't going to save us... if they were they would have by now.
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Drip drip drip....

The UK PM says he cannot guarantee this will be the last lockdown, as we are "battling with nature" - but says science is "in the ascendency"" - but says science is "in the ascendency"
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Maybe someone smarter can clue me in.... If lockdown are needed why isn't everyone already infected? Ppl are eating out and doing things like always.... Anyways we are still watching and waiting n 95 anytime I go inside
 Quoting: CDC ATL


We are easily at 40% infected. 80% by mid to late summer.

Especially with the lamest restrictions that have ever been introduced in a public health disaster b
 Quoting: CleverCreator


"I wish gubmint would weld us in our house to keep us safe"

What public health disaster had restrictions anything like this or more restrictive than this?

When have healthy people been locked down in the name of stopping an illness?
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The UK PM says he cannot guarantee this will be the last lockdown, as we are "battling with nature" - but says science is "in the ascendency"" - but says science is "in the ascendency"
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Maybe someone smarter can clue me in.... If lockdown are needed why isn't everyone already infected? Ppl are eating out and doing things like always.... Anyways we are still watching and waiting n 95 anytime I go inside
 Quoting: CDC ATL


We are easily at 40% infected. 80% by mid to late summer.

Especially with the lamest restrictions that have ever been introduced in a public health disaster b
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Quote this in your future research paper

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