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Assessing the human immune response to SARS-CoV-2 variants

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Concern about SARS-CoV-2 variants should not cause panic but instead should prompt efforts to ensure that all the necessary steps for mitigating variant impact are taken in advance through the development of tools that detect and characterize these new strains in a timely and standard manner.
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4th WAVE CANCELLED!



The numbers are still dropping! GO VACCINE GO!!!!

epiclol

Told you
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here we go again. do i need to re-ask the questions i have many times before? i won't.

here is 1 thou- how do u explain 10% vaccinated helping the other 90%?? if u vaccinate 1 out of 10,the other 9 can spread the virus. so your vaccine did not cause the drop.

u have better odds convincing us u have a unicorn in your basement with u than for us to take the shot.
JAZZZ50

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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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The numbers are still dropping! GO VACCINE GO!!!!

epiclol

Told you
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here we go again. do i need to re-ask the questions i have many times before? i won't.

here is 1 thou- how do u explain 10% vaccinated helping the other 90%?? if u vaccinate 1 out of 10,the other 9 can spread the virus. so your vaccine did not cause the drop.

u have better odds convincing us u have a unicorn in your basement with u than for us to take the shot.
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That's not how the math works at all.
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There is now no question that the mRNA vaccines provide some level of blocking transmission.
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This video shows that vaccines have helped some people with #longCOVID with their symptoms. While the numbers are still small in some groups, there are encouraging signs (also via
@DanielGriffinMD
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I present my hypothesis on how vaccines might improve #LongCovid



Prof. Akiko Iwasaki
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We study innate and adaptive immunity to #viruses and #cancer. #COVID19 #immunology #vaccines
YALE

So all the doom and gloom about long term issues can actually be solved with the vaccines. Makes a lot of sense.
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actually your analysis scares me more. i will play nice for a minute thou. without us watching the video,how does the vaccine cure the person?

plz explain this fact.


otherwise we will assume the vaccine is hiding the symptons but not curing the person.so quietly killing ppl.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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This video shows that vaccines have helped some people with #longCOVID with their symptoms. While the numbers are still small in some groups, there are encouraging signs (also via
@DanielGriffinMD
).
I present my hypothesis on how vaccines might improve #LongCovid



Prof. Akiko Iwasaki
@VirusesImmunity
We study innate and adaptive immunity to #viruses and #cancer. #COVID19 #immunology #vaccines
YALE

So all the doom and gloom about long term issues can actually be solved with the vaccines. Makes a lot of sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78305820


actually your analysis scares me more. i will play nice for a minute thou. without us watching the video,how does the vaccine cure the person?

plz explain this fact.


otherwise we will assume the vaccine is hiding the symptons but not curing the person.so quietly killing ppl.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


3 possible mechanisms.

1) Persisten viral reservoir
2) Viral fragments/remnants (RNA, protein) 'viral ghost’ driving inflammation
3) Autoimmune response induced by the infection

If 1) is true, vaccine-induced T and Ab responses may be able to eliminate the reservoir.
If 2) is true, vaccine-induced immunity may be able to eliminate the viral ghost if they are associated with the spike protein.
If 3) is true, still the vaccine might divert autoimmune cells (see below). I suspect that people with #LongCovid have varying degrees of 1), 2) and 3) taking place and are therefore should considered as heterogenous disease. Of course, other mechanisms can contribute

Another possible way in which vaccines can help longCOVID symptoms is through stimulation of innate immune responses (caused by vaccine-associated PAMPs). Transient inflammation might somehow divert the leukocytes causing longCOVID
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Pennsylvania.

As COVID-19 cases continue to decline and Pennsylvania's vaccination plan is amplified, the Wolf Administration announced revised and lifted mitigation restrictions that are effective statewide Monday.

Among the revised mitigations, maximum limits for indoor events will allow for 15% of maximum occupancy, regardless of venue size and maximum occupancy limits for outdoor events to allow for 20% of maximum occupancy, regardless of venue size.

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Beyond Covid-19: RNA tech brings treatments for other diseases



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this is a valid concern. 1 that TH brought up a while back. if we can not trust these ppl to make a vaccine ,how the hell do we trust them to make any medicines? this we will need to look at in the years ahead.

our lack of trust in our govern and the manufacturers and countries that make them is valid. they have been provn time and again to mess things up and to use the public as guinea pigs. nothing stopping them from changing the formula in any medicine just to see what happens.

it sux, but we must consider changing away from fattory produces pills and meds. research has shown that a lot of the 90% dead in 1 year post-SHTF will die due to lack of meds.that alone will kill many in the 1st 3 mths.

this will not b an easy change. to b fully prepped we must find alternatives. thing is testing different remedies is risky. life and death.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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To Beat COVID, We May Need a Good Shot in the Nose
Intranasal vaccines might stop the spread of the coronavirus more effectively than needles in arms

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Thankfully, they are already working on these types of vaccines. It will be a sniff and go.
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There is now no question that the mRNA vaccines provide some level of blocking transmission.
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In your mind, maybe, but it actually means exactly nothing.
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AC 71- i remember your story from before. it is 1 of many that leave us scratching our heads. this virus infects some and not others.we have no way to say it will or won't infect so and so specifically. your aunts prior ailments may play a role in that.

however, we can not base the entire world on what happened to 1 fmmily or even the 10 or so reports that have went simialrly. we really are not scientists enuf to diagnose how the virus will act in certain ppl. no way to say u or i will have such and such reactions.

without knowing we won't b affected and have a serious case of the disease, we can only avoid the vius. we also have no idea how the virus will affect even u in say 2 more years. u may have been lucky.u may not have gotten enuf exposure. and then the dreaded question-what happens when u get a 2nd dose?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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To Beat COVID, We May Need a Good Shot in the Nose
Intranasal vaccines might stop the spread of the coronavirus more effectively than needles in arms

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Thankfully, they are already working on these types of vaccines. It will be a sniff and go.
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You can soon mainline SARS-CoV-2 prion making domains, and various other neurotoxic gain of function features designed for
and replicated onto S1 spike proteins, straight into your brain without it having to locate you on it’s own like it does now.

Pharma$ and gov$ are it’s jockey instead of a cough.
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AC 71- i remember your story from before. it is 1 of many that leave us scratching our heads. this virus infects some and not others.we have no way to say it will or won't infect so and so specifically. your aunts prior ailments may play a role in that.

however, we can not base the entire world on what happened to 1 fmmily or even the 10 or so reports that have went simialrly. we really are not scientists enuf to diagnose how the virus will act in certain ppl. no way to say u or i will have such and such reactions.

without knowing we won't b affected and have a serious case of the disease, we can only avoid the vius. we also have no idea how the virus will affect even u in say 2 more years. u may have been lucky.u may not have gotten enuf exposure. and then the dreaded question-what happens when u get a 2nd dose?
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So you should apply the same thought process to the other side of the coin..

Correct?
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4th WAVE CANCELLED!



The numbers are still dropping! GO VACCINE GO!!!!

epiclol

Told you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78305820


here we go again. do i need to re-ask the questions i have many times before? i won't.

here is 1 thou- how do u explain 10% vaccinated helping the other 90%?? if u vaccinate 1 out of 10,the other 9 can spread the virus. so your vaccine did not cause the drop.

u have better odds convincing us u have a unicorn in your basement with u than for us to take the shot.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


That's not how the math works at all.
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ohhh ok. so if 1 in 10 take their vitamins the other 9 will feel the effects. if i eat an apple ,9 others can avoid a doctor. if my GF eats pancakes, i and the neighbors will taste them and not need to eat today.

WTF fairy world is that u are living in? that ain't math that is reality.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Now two more famous antivax claims from the past are popping up in my social media feeds, and they are related. I’m referring to the false claim that the COVID-19 vaccines cause prion disease and that they cause Alzheimer’s disease

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Nope. The premise is correct. This virus could quite easily evolve to become more lethal.

As far as infectiousness profiles go, I suggest you go argue with the folks at nature.com (just a peer-reviewed prestigious journal, in case you are really that ignorant..)

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We report temporal patterns of viral shedding in 94 patients with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 and modeled COVID-19 infectiousness profiles from a separate sample of 77 infector–infectee transmission pairs. We observed the highest viral load in throat swabs at the time of symptom onset, and inferred that infectiousness peaked on or before symptom onset. We estimated that 44% (95% confidence interval, 30–57%) of secondary cases were infected during the index cases’ presymptomatic stage

So, who is a horses' ass?
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You are, I detailed a story that contradicts your claims. Back to your safe haven thread, would be best option.

You have been a fear monger since the beginning, continue in isolation. and report abusive post. Nice life?

Fresh river rainbow trout was freakin awesome.

Almost time to get many more coolers full of fresh fish. Rainbow trout , Crappie, walleye, large mouth bass but not no hybrid white bass.
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I detailed a story
hahahaha

A story.

vs.

nature.com

Oh, and I am male, from Scotland and I am PROUD.
Not CC. Not fearmongering, or afraid.
We're dealing with the Brazilian variant on the loose here by drinking ourselves to death on single malt cask-strength!!!

ACH!
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local #'s have dropped to pre-school opening levels.

what is stranger is a county to the west spiked from NOV thru the holidays and dropped as well.they went up and down faster than my local counties.
.
this is the part that bugs me. the virus doesn't read papers or watch news. why did it drop the same amount everywhere even thou it started in places at different times and we all have seen different wave counts too?

defies logic.
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The drop is not illogical, it means the virus is becoming less infectious and less lethal.

No other explanation fits.
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You are jumping to conclusions. Bear with me for a lesson in evolutionary dynamics.

To account for the 'drop' in cases, it is simple.. The WHO has changed the criteria to be TWO positive PCR tests and recued the cycle threshold (doublings) for a positive result..

Next, your assumption of evolution towards a benign cold is flawed. Let me explain why:

"Normal" viruses have a vested interest in your survival. Longer infections mean more spread.. this is evolutionarily successful...

THIS virus has cracked a major problem: IT MAKES YOU MOST INFECTIOUS BEFORE SYMPTOMS APPEAR - and in ~30% of people, symptoms never appear.

What does this mean?

It means the virus no lnger really cares (evolutionarily) whether you live or die. It has already done its spreading before you get to that stage...


BUT
There is a catch..

This virus has also discovered that it can continue to spread after that initial period if it makes you so ill that you need a hospital. That way, it can infect ambulance staff, ER nurses etc.. so...

In fact, this virus has a selection pressure to become MORE lethal.

NOT GOOD.

Don't jump to conclusions.
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Thank you for your posts today - you are the only reason I didn’t put ACs on “ignore”. I wish you well dealing with avoiding drunks.
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BREAKING....

UK records lowest level of infections and deaths like for like since 22 Sep 2020 as they pass the 20 million vaccination milestone.

But..but Rasen1 said 8 weeks ago we had to prepare for an imminent BIG DISASTER within days and couldnt tell us because it was so sensitive she could lose her job. Did she mean the retail job she was interested in a while ago on here or her 'secret job'....in a sock factory maybe?
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Dude... let it go man.
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Thank you for your posts today - you are the only reason I didn’t put ACs on “ignore”. I wish you well dealing with avoiding drunks.
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<3
You're pretty good yersel'!
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Not all AC's are worthless trash..
Some of 'em like to bash
Dangerous trolls and takers of cash
For dirty deeds done cheap
To keep the folk asleep.
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4th WAVE CANCELLED!



The numbers are still dropping! GO VACCINE GO!!!!

epiclol

Told you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78305820


here we go again. do i need to re-ask the questions i have many times before? i won't.

here is 1 thou- how do u explain 10% vaccinated helping the other 90%?? if u vaccinate 1 out of 10,the other 9 can spread the virus. so your vaccine did not cause the drop.

u have better odds convincing us u have a unicorn in your basement with u than for us to take the shot.
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That's not how the math works at all.
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ohhh ok. so if 1 in 10 take their vitamins the other 9 will feel the effects. if i eat an apple ,9 others can avoid a doctor. if my GF eats pancakes, i and the neighbors will taste them and not need to eat today.

WTF fairy world is that u are living in? that ain't math that is reality.
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Now two more famous antivax claims from the past are popping up in my social media feeds, and they are related. I’m referring to the false claim that the COVID-19 vaccines cause prion disease and that they cause Alzheimer’s disease

[link to respectfulinsolence.com (secure)]
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You seem to be incapable of learning and are boring.


For members who want to avoid the rainbow/Pharma/gov crew Clockwork Orange style barrage of shillery posts - click on “your profile” and then click on “ignore AC posts”.

In the evening, when the shills are worn out from their hard day of work, you can pick up the thread at the page you left off and then reverse your setting in your profile to be able to read AC posts from over the pond, etc.

Sorry I’ll be missing you good AC’s posts but you can always sign up to GLP - or post after the shills have punched out.
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Now two more famous antivax claims from the past are popping up in my social media feeds, and they are related. I’m referring to the false claim that the COVID-19 vaccines cause prion disease and that they cause Alzheimer’s disease

[link to respectfulinsolence.com (secure)]
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You seem to be incapable of learning and are boring.


For members who want to avoid the rainbow/Pharma/gov crew Clockwork Orange style barrage of shillery posts - click on “your profile” and then click on “ignore AC posts”.

In the evening, when the shills are worn out from their hard day of work, you can pick up the thread at the page you left off and then reverse your setting in your profile to be able to read AC posts from over the pond, etc.

Sorry I’ll be missing you good AC’s posts but you can always sign up to GLP - or post after the shills have punched out.
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shill = anyone who posts articles from scientists and doctors that you don't agree with
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Thank you for your posts today - you are the only reason I didn’t put ACs on “ignore”. I wish you well dealing with avoiding drunks.
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<3
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Kevin McC. Rocks. An' his pal Bacon, frae Glasgae an all..!

Not all AC's are worthless trash..
Some of 'em like to bash
Dangerous trolls and takers of cash
For dirty deeds done cheap
To keep the folk asleep.
:)
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Love You!
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Now two more famous antivax claims from the past are popping up in my social media feeds, and they are related. I’m referring to the false claim that the COVID-19 vaccines cause prion disease and that they cause Alzheimer’s disease

[link to respectfulinsolence.com (secure)]
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You seem to be incapable of learning and are boring.


For members who want to avoid the rainbow/Pharma/gov crew Clockwork Orange style barrage of shillery posts - click on “your profile” and then click on “ignore AC posts”.

In the evening, when the shills are worn out from their hard day of work, you can pick up the thread at the page you left off and then reverse your setting in your profile to be able to read AC posts from over the pond, etc.

Sorry I’ll be missing you good AC’s posts but you can always sign up to GLP - or post after the shills have punched out.
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shill = anyone who posts articles from scientists and doctors that you don't agree with
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Your rainbow circle jerk butt buddies and you are now on my “ignore” setting. Enjoy your Sars-Cov-2 poop plugs - they will go straight from there to your twisted brains undetected.
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COVID-19 in North Dakota at its lowest point since July

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New COVID-19 cases plummet in North Dakota

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North Dakota reported far fewer coronavirus cases in the week ending Sunday, adding 532 new cases. That's down 21.8% from the previous week's toll of 680 new cases of the virus that causes COVID-19.

The magic is beginning.
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This is the first day no new COVID-19-related deaths had been reported by the DHHR in a 24-hour period since November 1.

According to the DHHR’s COVID-19 dashboard, there are currently 6,997 (-261) active cases and 122,751 (+454) recovered cases in the state.

Someone may see a triple doughnut soon.
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Good, now lock the border down tight.





GLP