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“The current chip shortage all starts with the unprecedented demand for personal computers and peripherals as the globe worked and attended school from home,” said Patrick Moorhead, founder of Moor Insights, a firm that studies the semiconductor industry.

Gaming nerds wanting XBOXs and PS5s are hoarding semiconductors.

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]

CNBC also blames Trump, because why not?
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Blue-Collar Jobs Boom as Covid-19 Boosts Housing, E-Commerce Demand
Residential construction, package delivery and warehousing jobs exceed pre-pandemic levels, and some companies can’t find enough workers

[link to www.wsj.com (secure)]

Tell me again why we need to spend a couple trillion for some lazy fucks. There is work to be had.
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Remember in about September, the ridiculous drive to get everyone vaccinated against flu??

I was saying to my family, and probably also on this thread, that I didn't believe there would BE a flu season this winter.
I was right.

Important because there are several papers showing that those vaccinated against flu have a higher propensity for Coronavirus infection than those who are unvaccinated. Odd that it works out like that, but that's the science.
(skeptics, please look back in this thread to around 23-30 Sept 2020 for the papers..)


[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]
(23 Feb 2021)
Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year ...

1 day ago ... Not a single case of influenza has been detected by public health officials in England for the past seven weeks, with infection rates at historic lows...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78062583


Raises another question. If we managed to block the flu, what is so super duper about COVID that all the precautions aren't stopping it? Or perhaps someone is lying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


I can answer this.

For SARS-CoV-2, we have a R0 of 5.7:
[link to wwwnc.cdc.gov (secure)]
we calculated a median R0 value of 5.7 (95% CI 3.8–8.9).

Flu has an R0 of about 1.2 to 1.3 so much MUCH less transmissible.
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I guess the "fuck it" approach didn't work.
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No, this is yet MORE BullShyte

To hide the FACT that we're bathing in radiation.

all the Nukes are Disintegrating as I type....

Radiation makes your hair fall out.

Read Isaiah chapter 4

All the Women are Bald....

What makes your hair fall out??


Clue: Not CV-19-37-498

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Remember in about September, the ridiculous drive to get everyone vaccinated against flu??

I was saying to my family, and probably also on this thread, that I didn't believe there would BE a flu season this winter.
I was right.

Important because there are several papers showing that those vaccinated against flu have a higher propensity for Coronavirus infection than those who are unvaccinated. Odd that it works out like that, but that's the science.
(skeptics, please look back in this thread to around 23-30 Sept 2020 for the papers..)


[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]
(23 Feb 2021)
Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year ...

1 day ago ... Not a single case of influenza has been detected by public health officials in England for the past seven weeks, with infection rates at historic lows...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78062583


Raises another question. If we managed to block the flu, what is so super duper about COVID that all the precautions aren't stopping it? Or perhaps someone is lying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


I can answer this.

For SARS-CoV-2, we have a R0 of 5.7:
[link to wwwnc.cdc.gov (secure)]
we calculated a median R0 value of 5.7 (95% CI 3.8–8.9).

Flu has an R0 of about 1.2 to 1.3 so much MUCH less transmissible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79761702


The R number isn’t fixed, but can be affected by a range of factors, including not just how infectious a disease is but how it develops over time, how a population behaves, and any immunity already possessed thanks to infection or vaccination.

The R0 is not 5.7 when measures are taken.
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(<50%)

Vaccine developers will not have to conduct lengthy clinical trials to evaluate the effectiveness of shots tailored to fight new coronavirus variants, according to new guidance from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

According to the guidance released Monday, developers will not need large randomized control trials comparing it to a placebo.

Instead, the FDA said it recommended companies submit data from small trials comparing a person's immune response to a vaccine that has already been authorized.




BUT FOR IVERMECTIN...
we can't possibly use it because there aren't enough double-blind randomised control trials... despite it being used for 40 yrs in the wild already... and having basically zero adverse effects compared to vaccines....

WAKE THE F*CK UP.
WE ARE BEING PLAYED.
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Blue-Collar Jobs Boom as Covid-19 Boosts Housing, E-Commerce Demand
Residential construction, package delivery and warehousing jobs exceed pre-pandemic levels, and some companies can’t find enough workers

[link to www.wsj.com (secure)]

Tell me again why we need to spend a couple trillion for some lazy fucks. There is work to be had.
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I've shot out 47 apps in the last 4 days
Electronically by emails and auto job stuff...

Interview today, I am by FAR their best applicant

They are Anal Retentive about smokers...

Not a good fit even though I would make them MANY thousands per week

Dumb Rich people...


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DAMN SON!
Johnson & Johnson said that in South Africa, their one dose covid vaccine reduced severe or critical Covid-19 by 81.7% starting 28 days after vaccination.

The company stated the vaccine efficacy was not affected by the high prevalence of another variant in Brazil.


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The shot was 72% effective among clinical trial volunteers in the U.S, but 66% among those in Latin America, and just 57% among those in South Africa.

So 80% in only upto 70% of people.
Dont mention that SA on


I guess the devil is in the details and not the pure hope the world is running

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Remember in about September, the ridiculous drive to get everyone vaccinated against flu??

I was saying to my family, and probably also on this thread, that I didn't believe there would BE a flu season this winter.
I was right.

Important because there are several papers showing that those vaccinated against flu have a higher propensity for Coronavirus infection than those who are unvaccinated. Odd that it works out like that, but that's the science.
(skeptics, please look back in this thread to around 23-30 Sept 2020 for the papers..)


[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]
(23 Feb 2021)
Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year ...

1 day ago ... Not a single case of influenza has been detected by public health officials in England for the past seven weeks, with infection rates at historic lows...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78062583


Raises another question. If we managed to block the flu, what is so super duper about COVID that all the precautions aren't stopping it? Or perhaps someone is lying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


I can answer this.

For SARS-CoV-2, we have a R0 of 5.7:
[link to wwwnc.cdc.gov (secure)]
we calculated a median R0 value of 5.7 (95% CI 3.8–8.9).

Flu has an R0 of about 1.2 to 1.3 so much MUCH less transmissible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79761702


The R number isn’t fixed, but can be affected by a range of factors, including not just how infectious a disease is but how it develops over time, how a population behaves, and any immunity already possessed thanks to infection or vaccination.

The R0 is not 5.7 when measures are taken.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


My word, you are a pillock!

I am stating as FACT that COVID is FAR MORE TRANSMISSIBLE THAN FLU.
I don;t care if 5.7 is Los Alamos National Laboratory's best estimate but the 95% Confidence Interval means it ends up at 3.8 or as high as 8.9..

Point is - COVID is not going to disappear whilst flu does disappear when certain level of measures are taken.

Pillock!
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"no new cases linked to the Auckland February cluster"

I guess some people can't watch the world burn down this time. SAD
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No, what is TRULY sad

Is you selling your soul

For $3.50

TROLL


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Raises another question. If we managed to block the flu, what is so super duper about COVID that all the precautions aren't stopping it? Or perhaps someone is lying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


I can answer this.

For SARS-CoV-2, we have a R0 of 5.7:
[link to wwwnc.cdc.gov (secure)]
we calculated a median R0 value of 5.7 (95% CI 3.8–8.9).

Flu has an R0 of about 1.2 to 1.3 so much MUCH less transmissible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79761702


The R number isn’t fixed, but can be affected by a range of factors, including not just how infectious a disease is but how it develops over time, how a population behaves, and any immunity already possessed thanks to infection or vaccination.

The R0 is not 5.7 when measures are taken.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


My word, you are a pillock!

I am stating as FACT that COVID is FAR MORE TRANSMISSIBLE THAN FLU.
I don;t care if 5.7 is Los Alamos National Laboratory's best estimate but the 95% Confidence Interval means it ends up at 3.8 or as high as 8.9..

Point is - COVID is not going to disappear whilst flu does disappear when certain level of measures are taken.

Pillock!
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I WILL NOT debate this Moot point

I already stated the R0

of covid

IS Over 10

Deal with it

or DIE


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Oh, and you are wrong on another count:-

R0 does NOT change over time. Look it up.
It is the average number of persons infected by a case in a completely suscpetible population. That's why it's called "R0".

When we take measures like masks or the population becomes immune through exposure, the R0 becomes the R-number (or Rt).

Pillock!
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I WILL NOT debate this Moot point

I already stated the R0

of covid

IS Over 10

Deal with it

or DIE


:Wewaiting II:
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Agreed, Hnry - I was making the point that flu can be 'eradicated' leaving COVID tottering along, because COVID is FAR more transmissible.

I think it is possible too that the R0 is over 10, and Los Alamos only put a 95% Confidence on it being below 8.9...

So I AGREE... WE SHOULD NOT DEBATE THE NUMBER

Except that Pillocks are going to pillock, and COVID is MANY times more transmissible than flu.
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Raises another question. If we managed to block the flu, what is so super duper about COVID that all the precautions aren't stopping it? Or perhaps someone is lying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


I can answer this.

For SARS-CoV-2, we have a R0 of 5.7:
[link to wwwnc.cdc.gov (secure)]
we calculated a median R0 value of 5.7 (95% CI 3.8–8.9).

Flu has an R0 of about 1.2 to 1.3 so much MUCH less transmissible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79761702


The R number isn’t fixed, but can be affected by a range of factors, including not just how infectious a disease is but how it develops over time, how a population behaves, and any immunity already possessed thanks to infection or vaccination.

The R0 is not 5.7 when measures are taken.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


My word, you are a pillock!

I am stating as FACT that COVID is FAR MORE TRANSMISSIBLE THAN FLU.
I don;t care if 5.7 is Los Alamos National Laboratory's best estimate but the 95% Confidence Interval means it ends up at 3.8 or as high as 8.9..

Point is - COVID is not going to disappear whilst flu does disappear when certain level of measures are taken.

Pillock!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79761702


Further

You are arguing with a TROLL

Stop it

He Knows he's an ASS


do not muddy the thread with nonsense

You are right, he is WRONG


leave it at that?

I cannot Slay ALL the Shills


Use common sense, if a post comes across as Obvious BS

it is. leave it alone?


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Vaccine developers will not have to conduct lengthy clinical trials to evaluate the effectiveness of shots tailored to fight new coronavirus variants, according to new guidance from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

According to the guidance released Monday, developers will not need large randomized control trials comparing it to a placebo.

Instead, the FDA said it recommended companies submit data from small trials comparing a person's immune response to a vaccine that has already been authorized.




BUT FOR IVERMECTIN...
we can't possibly use it because there aren't enough double-blind randomised control trials... despite it being used for 40 yrs in the wild already... and having basically zero adverse effects compared to vaccines....

WAKE THE F*CK UP.
WE ARE BEING PLAYED.

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This is how a friend spent his weekend bc they listened to science and didn’t politicize a health crisis.



Look closely... lol
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So THIS is what zero COVID really looks like... I think I'm all set.
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I think I see all guys....

I mean Gays....

Already got Aids, so Immune to Covid??

THAT is the question that BEGS to be answered

with that picture....


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This is how a friend spent his weekend bc they listened to science and didn’t politicize a health crisis.



Look closely... lol
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So THIS is what zero COVID really looks like... I think I'm all set.
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I think I see all guys....

I mean Gays....

Already got Aids, so Immune to Covid??

THAT is the question that BEGS to be answered

with that picture....


WegoinClint daman


WW, you gay too ??

Makes me wonder.

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This is how a friend spent his weekend bc they listened to science and didn’t politicize a health crisis.



Look closely... lol
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So THIS is what zero COVID really looks like... I think I'm all set.
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Yep. The only feminine thing in that pool are the pink floaties.
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Good Catch !!

SN sees it too !!


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Remember in about September, the ridiculous drive to get everyone vaccinated against flu??

I was saying to my family, and probably also on this thread, that I didn't believe there would BE a flu season this winter.
I was right.

Important because there are several papers showing that those vaccinated against flu have a higher propensity for Coronavirus infection than those who are unvaccinated. Odd that it works out like that, but that's the science.
(skeptics, please look back in this thread to around 23-30 Sept 2020 for the papers..)


[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]
(23 Feb 2021)
Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year ...

1 day ago ... Not a single case of influenza has been detected by public health officials in England for the past seven weeks, with infection rates at historic lows...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78062583


Raises another question. If we managed to block the flu, what is so super duper about COVID that all the precautions aren't stopping it? Or perhaps someone is lying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754




How did we stop the flu but not COVID?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750754


Covid
IS the FLU

Go back 2000 Pages

You will find ONE of the times I went over it.

1918 Flu to be exact

with RNA from Ebola

HIV

SARS

and Now I think Dengue fever,
the Newest Gates' Gift ravaging China as I type


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I was told this couldn't happen.


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You

Are Pissing me OFF

Go away

You earned your money

Shill

STFU


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I almost never post, but have been following this thread since the beginning. Sorry if it's already been asked, but is Rasen talking about the semiconductor shortage perhaps?
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I was told this couldn't happen.


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Reported

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Remove please

Michael "


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To our Troll??


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Emergency public announcement from Dr. Mc Cairn on McCairndojo.com

New pre-print on the monstrosity that has been unleashed -

“SARS-Cov -2 causes Brain Inflammation and Induces Lewy body formation in macaques”.
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But I thought Joe was for blue collar workers? Why would big companies want this passed? hhhmmmm
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Because the Faster the Fed's Presses go

The Wealthier the BIG companies get

As Americans get Deeper into debt
Along with the Gubmint DEBT
Which WE ARE Responsible for....

You Aren't REALLY this stupid, are you??

Beginning to think you ARE


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But I thought Joe was for blue collar workers? Why would big companies want this passed? hhhmmmm
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Reported

" TROLL

FUKKIN REMOVE ALREADY

THIS WENT ON ALL DAY IN MY ABSENSE ?? "


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Emergency public announcement from Dr. Mc Cairn on McCairndojo.com

New pre-print on the monstrosity that has been unleashed -

“SARS-Cov -2 causes Brain Inflammation and Induces Lewy body formation in macaques”.
 Quoting: sos


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Best course, don't get the disease and get vaccinated or risk brain injury.
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We don’t know yet whether the S spikes the mRNA hijacks our cells into reproducing are safe to get jabbed with.

Remember, the spikes in the vaccines are reproductions of the originals - furin cleavage, rabies/snake venom/HIV insertions, and prion producing domains.

You have no scientific basis to back any thought on whether or not the vaccine produced virus spikes produce Amyloid plaque build up in brains. There are NO studies on that.
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We have studies that show the vaccines block infections. The mRNA vaccine teaches your body how to fight the spike protein and that is definitely not in that pre-print.
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BullShyte

It rewrites your Fucking DNA


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In our view, current PCR testing is therefore not the appropriate gold standard for evaluating a SARS-CoV-2 public health test.

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Just like magic. They want to change the rules. If you read it, we have been getting a shit ton of false positives





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