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Quarantines and curfews also keep people from protesting....which would be massive if the government admits to a bio-weapons screw up. (And they basically did admit it.)
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From an article posted Jan. 23, link doesn’t post, here:

Acting FEMA Director Pete Gaynor on Wednesday offered President Trump a startling solution, Martial Law in the United States, to prevent the spread of a lethal Chinese Coronavirus that infected hundreds and killed at least 17 people in the Communist nation.

At first China blamed the virus on seafood. Then tainted “bat soup.” Now, the Chinesegovernment says rancid snake meat—a delicacy in china—may be the culprit. Regardless the cause, Xi Jinping responded by quarantining nearly 20 million people at the epicenter of the lethal pathogen, banning planes, trains, and automobiles from leaving or entering Wuhan in an unprecedented move aimed at containing the disease which has already spread to other countries. In America, FEMA took notice.

An agency source speaking under promise of anonymity said Gaynor cautioned Trump to doubt the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) assertion that only one infected person—a Washington man now under the care of a robotic surgeon—had entered the United States. That individual initially sought treatment for a common cold but went misdiagnosed for a week, during which time he could have inadvertently transmitted the virus to countless people.

“Whether or not he believes it, Gaynor said America may be in the middle of a pandemic and not even know it. He told Trump the CDC works under authority of the WHO, and that the WHO intentionally misrepresents facts to prevent widespread hysteria. He alleged hundreds or thousands in the U.S. might be already infected,” our source said.

And Xi Jinping, Gaynor told Trump, made the right move in imposing a de facto state of Martial Law in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. He suggested that Trump instruct Washington Governor Jay Inslee to at once declare Martial Law and quarantine Snohomish County. The unidentified patient, who is in his 30s and lives alone in Snohomish County, was determined to have close contact with 16 people during his five days back in the US before he received a diagnosis Monday for the contagious virus. Those 16 persons, Gaynor said, are potential carriers that could unwittingly infect an entire city or state, or even the nation.

FEMA, he said, was prepared to act and had taken the liberty of designing plans that wouldsee 1,500 armed FEMA agents descend on Snohomish County, setting up roadblocks and interrogating persons who display even a single symptom. Those symptoms, however, are like any other upper-respiratory ailment and can include coughing, sneezing, or clearing one’s throat.

“Snohomish county would just be a testbed,” our source said. “FEMA wants nationwide Martial Law and will use any crisis to work toward that goal. The virus in the latest crisis, and FEMA doesn’t want to waste it. Gaynor bluntly told Trump many Americans will resist Martial Law and that FEMA would take decisive action to deal with them.”

Gun confiscation, Gaynor told Trump, would be mandatory. FEMA would conduct no-knock“wellness checks” on residents and seize any and all firearms found in homes. These extreme measures, he added, are needed to prevent the citizenry from starting an insurrection on government authority.

But President Trump, our source said, raised an eyebrow and asked Gaynor what qualifications FEMA had to judge infected from non-infected persons. Gaynor’s response: Grant FEMA control of the CDC.

Trump allegedly said he would consider Gaynor’s idea, but wanted to hear what DHS Secretary Chad Wolf thought of FEMA’s plan.
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“My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave.”
-Stonewall Jackson

"The Bible that is falling apart usually belongs to a person who is not." - Charles Spurgeon

“I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.”

“If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.” -Daniel Webster
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How come I've seen very few videos of people who were "cured" from China??? I've only seen one or two articles and maybe 1 video. But both were suspicious.

Then the cruise ship people also said they were doing okay I guess. What happened with them lately? Are they better now?
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Covid-19 "B" type?

Mutated version?

Is this what asymptomatic people have?

Super spreaders?

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ffs. so now if you feel completely normal you can just keel over.
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No wonder those dudes with shopping bags just dropped. Lady face plant into the produce.

Might be the answer to why folks were out and about when "sick"

Not sure if its BS or not.
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This thing is mutating and I am sad to say it seems to be doing so fast.

[link to nextstrain.org (secure)]

Not a virologist but just looking at the drift of this virus is pretty damn crazy... I can only imagine what a full, up to date of every every case, data set would look like.

Granted this looks bad a full dataset could confirm, make it worse, or make it look better...

Though on the limited set and limited time this is, as bad as it sounds, pretty impressive. It looks like it is drifting much much faster than the regular flu... What it does in months it takes the flu years to do. (On surface value mutations; I have not looked into the specifics impacts of the mutations just the number)

So yes as bad as it sounds it could be possible that there is a type b already; but a full data set would be needed in my opinion.

China is not releasing much of anything. I want to point one very odd thing out a few days ago in the WHO press briefing the first question asked was it true that Australia was able to isolate the LIVE virus from a patient...

I believe there is going to be a pretty big difference live sample vs the synthetic created virus.

The fact that it is not being released by china should be telling... for a PCR test it is preferable to have a live virus vs synthesized... the same applies for other detection techniques... That bothers me when looking at the big picture... you have to scratch your head and wonder why not share the live virus with the world so you can actually try to get ahead of this thing.

On a different note the PCR test is a RNA amplification test that is looking for markers of the virus in blood. We are talking potential to pick up in the early stages of infection BUT is not fully accurate, that is by design of the test. The CDC test coming back as undetermined, in my opinion, means they have the virus. The test is designed to amplify the RNA in the blood so if 2 of 3 markers pop positive it will come back as indetermined... It simply means we are seeing two out of three strange things when there should be none...

I encourage those interested to look into PCR testing to understand the imporatnce of not only a live virus but also the accuracy. A good example is HIV... if after all of these years it takes that long for a PCR for HIV to show... Why the F do we think overnight we can detect it the minute some one is sneazed on. It test is about about the viral replication and amount in your blood... this is after infection but before antibodies are built.

Which poses the somewhat scarier question... how long after the infection will antibody tests actually be visable. In HIV 97% will produce antibodies in three weeks... this virus who knows? If you cannot detect it with an PCR-RNA test in two weeks... then we still don't understand this at all OR the rna sequencing was wrong (remember this was based on the synthetic virus China released; and Australia isolated the live virus... then the CDC came out and said the test kits were bad...)

All of this is just food for thought. Sorry lots of words but I think it will help address a lot of things going on as well as help to explain a lot of the 'testing' outrage.

Apologize for grammar and spelling this is just one typed out thought no review.
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Might mean ground-glass appearance of the lungs...

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Interesting...

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I've been questioning for a while here at GLP if this thing is related to the novel hantavirus in Wuhan. If a vaccine is made, won't someone have to tell us what it is by then?

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Reminder: The “ground glass” thing is a characteristic of pneumocystic pneumonia ( [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] One poster a few hundred pages back suggested that this is what’s happening, as a result of the HIV aspect immune suppression.
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Thx. Did they mention anything about the fungus that causes the pneumocystic pneumonia being found in floodwater or after flooding? Wuhan had floods in June of 2019. It is also one of China's "sponge cities".

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So add an antifungal to the treatment protocols if anyone has been in floods or other high risk fungal zones.

That stuff can be dormant or quietly living in the lungs for years.
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From an article posted Jan. 23, link doesn’t post, here:

Acting FEMA Director Pete Gaynor on Wednesday offered President Trump a startling solution, Martial Law in the United States, to prevent the spread of a lethal Chinese Coronavirus that infected hundreds and killed at least 17 people in the Communist nation.

At first China blamed the virus on seafood. Then tainted “bat soup.” Now, the Chinesegovernment says rancid snake meat—a delicacy in china—may be the culprit. Regardless the cause, Xi Jinping responded by quarantining nearly 20 million people at the epicenter of the lethal pathogen, banning planes, trains, and automobiles from leaving or entering Wuhan in an unprecedented move aimed at containing the disease which has already spread to other countries. In America, FEMA took notice.

An agency source speaking under promise of anonymity said Gaynor cautioned Trump to doubt the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) assertion that only one infected person—a Washington man now under the care of a robotic surgeon—had entered the United States. That individual initially sought treatment for a common cold but went misdiagnosed for a week, during which time he could have inadvertently transmitted the virus to countless people.

“Whether or not he believes it, Gaynor said America may be in the middle of a pandemic and not even know it. He told Trump the CDC works under authority of the WHO, and that the WHO intentionally misrepresents facts to prevent widespread hysteria. He alleged hundreds or thousands in the U.S. might be already infected,” our source said.

And Xi Jinping, Gaynor told Trump, made the right move in imposing a de facto state of Martial Law in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. He suggested that Trump instruct Washington Governor Jay Inslee to at once declare Martial Law and quarantine Snohomish County. The unidentified patient, who is in his 30s and lives alone in Snohomish County, was determined to have close contact with 16 people during his five days back in the US before he received a diagnosis Monday for the contagious virus. Those 16 persons, Gaynor said, are potential carriers that could unwittingly infect an entire city or state, or even the nation.

FEMA, he said, was prepared to act and had taken the liberty of designing plans that wouldsee 1,500 armed FEMA agents descend on Snohomish County, setting up roadblocks and interrogating persons who display even a single symptom. Those symptoms, however, are like any other upper-respiratory ailment and can include coughing, sneezing, or clearing one’s throat.

“Snohomish county would just be a testbed,” our source said. “FEMA wants nationwide Martial Law and will use any crisis to work toward that goal. The virus in the latest crisis, and FEMA doesn’t want to waste it. Gaynor bluntly told Trump many Americans will resist Martial Law and that FEMA would take decisive action to deal with them.”

Gun confiscation, Gaynor told Trump, would be mandatory. FEMA would conduct no-knock“wellness checks” on residents and seize any and all firearms found in homes. These extreme measures, he added, are needed to prevent the citizenry from starting an insurrection on government authority.

But President Trump, our source said, raised an eyebrow and asked Gaynor what qualifications FEMA had to judge infected from non-infected persons. Gaynor’s response: Grant FEMA control of the CDC.

Trump allegedly said he would consider Gaynor’s idea, but wanted to hear what DHS Secretary Chad Wolf thought of FEMA’s plan.
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hesrightglassesoffwaitwhat
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BS

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BS

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Has the thought crossed anyone's mind that this whole thing might have something to do with our Kenyan Messiah, Soros, Hillary? I keep thinking about it, but I can't figure out why they would do this.
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“My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave.”
-Stonewall Jackson

"The Bible that is falling apart usually belongs to a person who is not." - Charles Spurgeon

“I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.”

“If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.” -Daniel Webster
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From an article posted Jan. 23, link doesn’t post, here:

Acting FEMA Director Pete Gaynor on Wednesday offered President Trump a startling solution, Martial Law in the United States, to prevent the spread of a lethal Chinese Coronavirus that infected hundreds and killed at least 17 people in the Communist nation.

At first China blamed the virus on seafood. Then tainted “bat soup.” Now, the Chinesegovernment says rancid snake meat—a delicacy in china—may be the culprit. Regardless the cause, Xi Jinping responded by quarantining nearly 20 million people at the epicenter of the lethal pathogen, banning planes, trains, and automobiles from leaving or entering Wuhan in an unprecedented move aimed at containing the disease which has already spread to other countries. In America, FEMA took notice.

An agency source speaking under promise of anonymity said Gaynor cautioned Trump to doubt the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) assertion that only one infected person—a Washington man now under the care of a robotic surgeon—had entered the United States. That individual initially sought treatment for a common cold but went misdiagnosed for a week, during which time he could have inadvertently transmitted the virus to countless people.

“Whether or not he believes it, Gaynor said America may be in the middle of a pandemic and not even know it. He told Trump the CDC works under authority of the WHO, and that the WHO intentionally misrepresents facts to prevent widespread hysteria. He alleged hundreds or thousands in the U.S. might be already infected,” our source said.

And Xi Jinping, Gaynor told Trump, made the right move in imposing a de facto state of Martial Law in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. He suggested that Trump instruct Washington Governor Jay Inslee to at once declare Martial Law and quarantine Snohomish County. The unidentified patient, who is in his 30s and lives alone in Snohomish County, was determined to have close contact with 16 people during his five days back in the US before he received a diagnosis Monday for the contagious virus. Those 16 persons, Gaynor said, are potential carriers that could unwittingly infect an entire city or state, or even the nation.

FEMA, he said, was prepared to act and had taken the liberty of designing plans that wouldsee 1,500 armed FEMA agents descend on Snohomish County, setting up roadblocks and interrogating persons who display even a single symptom. Those symptoms, however, are like any other upper-respiratory ailment and can include coughing, sneezing, or clearing one’s throat.

“Snohomish county would just be a testbed,” our source said. “FEMA wants nationwide Martial Law and will use any crisis to work toward that goal. The virus in the latest crisis, and FEMA doesn’t want to waste it. Gaynor bluntly told Trump many Americans will resist Martial Law and that FEMA would take decisive action to deal with them.”

Gun confiscation, Gaynor told Trump, would be mandatory. FEMA would conduct no-knock“wellness checks” on residents and seize any and all firearms found in homes. These extreme measures, he added, are needed to prevent the citizenry from starting an insurrection on government authority.

But President Trump, our source said, raised an eyebrow and asked Gaynor what qualifications FEMA had to judge infected from non-infected persons. Gaynor’s response: Grant FEMA control of the CDC.

Trump allegedly said he would consider Gaynor’s idea, but wanted to hear what DHS Secretary Chad Wolf thought of FEMA’s plan.
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hesrightglassesoffwaitwhat
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BS

"I can't find the source link"

BS

antibs
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[link to www.Fake (secure)] news.net/featured/fema-proposes-martial-law-to-contain-corona​virus/?fbclid=IwAR18KNvS1xbkTL9EwKb-MdYVuRCLno1BMMxRRto-EeP4_​MKyTQtugfm3B-4

I am using phone and limited...fake is in the address but not on the website address.

Can anyone confirm this so we can put this to rest?

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“My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave.”
-Stonewall Jackson

"The Bible that is falling apart usually belongs to a person who is not." - Charles Spurgeon

“I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.”

“If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.” -Daniel Webster
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Live from wuhan


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Copy/Past the first paragraph of article into google and many links can be found.
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On the coronavirus, a senior administration official tells me the US does “not have high confidence in the information coming out of China.” This official says “China continues to rebuff American offers of assistance.

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Looking at all the hatred for China on here, and using this a microcosm of American thinking, can anyone be surprised they don't want American 'help'?

Not sure I would either.
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Fuck China and Fuck the inclusive left retards
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Dead?

Vid

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Copy/Past the first paragraph of article into google and many links can be found.
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Its FAKE

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White House chief economic adviser Kudlow told reporters at the White House on February 13: We are very disappointed because China has not yet accepted the invitation to let experts from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention go to China with WHO staff! We thought China's transparency had increased, but that was not the case, and we were very disappointed with China's response! Don't worry, waiting for the CCP to process the evidence of the Wuhan P4 laboratory, it is possible for the Americans to go!

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Thats really disturbing to me and you could interpret that in many ways. Absolutly FOOLISH on behalf of the US Government to think the CCP would be a little more transparent. Wishful thinking didn't pay off Mr. President. Back to the drawing board.
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China cannot let us look at the original virus sample, because it would then be clear to everyone that it is a bio weapon that was accidentally released.
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Caught red-handed! Same woman acts as nurse on day 1, and a cured patient from #FangCang on day 2, at #CCP's official "news" reports. One of the many scenes in #China during #coronavirusoutbreak


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As a westerner, its difficult to dispute

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So if they’re having to fake cured patients, does that mean....?damned
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Live from wuhan


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thx and what a weird vibe ..

fascinating

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Its FAKE

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yes I saw that
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Caught red-handed! Same woman acts as nurse on day 1, and a cured patient from #FangCang on day 2, at #CCP's official "news" reports. One of the many scenes in #China during #coronavirusoutbreak


Check out @jenniferatntd’s Tweet: [link to twitter.com (secure)]

As a westerner, its difficult to dispute

grinning
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So if they’re having to fake cured patients, does that mean....?damned
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Well. The woman in the pics did look the same....
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Covid-19 "B" type?

Mutated version?

Is this what asymptomatic people have?

Super spreaders?

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ffs. so now if you feel completely normal you can just keel over.
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No wonder those dudes with shopping bags just dropped. Lady face plant into the produce.

Might be the answer to why folks were out and about when "sick"

Not sure if its BS or not.
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This thing is mutating and I am sad to say it seems to be doing so fast.

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Not a virologist but just looking at the drift of this virus is pretty damn crazy... I can only imagine what a full, up to date of every every case, data set would look like.

Granted this looks bad a full dataset could confirm, make it worse, or make it look better...

Though on the limited set and limited time this is, as bad as it sounds, pretty impressive. It looks like it is drifting much much faster than the regular flu... What it does in months it takes the flu years to do. (On surface value mutations; I have not looked into the specifics impacts of the mutations just the number)

So yes as bad as it sounds it could be possible that there is a type b already; but a full data set would be needed in my opinion.

China is not releasing much of anything. I want to point one very odd thing out a few days ago in the WHO press briefing the first question asked was it true that Australia was able to isolate the LIVE virus from a patient...

I believe there is going to be a pretty big difference live sample vs the synthetic created virus.

The fact that it is not being released by china should be telling... for a PCR test it is preferable to have a live virus vs synthesized... the same applies for other detection techniques... That bothers me when looking at the big picture... you have to scratch your head and wonder why not share the live virus with the world so you can actually try to get ahead of this thing.

On a different note the PCR test is a RNA amplification test that is looking for markers of the virus in blood. We are talking potential to pick up in the early stages of infection BUT is not fully accurate, that is by design of the test. The CDC test coming back as undetermined, in my opinion, means they have the virus. The test is designed to amplify the RNA in the blood so if 2 of 3 markers pop positive it will come back as indetermined... It simply means we are seeing two out of three strange things when there should be none...

I encourage those interested to look into PCR testing to understand the imporatnce of not only a live virus but also the accuracy. A good example is HIV... if after all of these years it takes that long for a PCR for HIV to show... Why the F do we think overnight we can detect it the minute some one is sneazed on. It test is about about the viral replication and amount in your blood... this is after infection but before antibodies are built.

Which poses the somewhat scarier question... how long after the infection will antibody tests actually be visable. In HIV 97% will produce antibodies in three weeks... this virus who knows? If you cannot detect it with an PCR-RNA test in two weeks... then we still don't understand this at all OR the rna sequencing was wrong (remember this was based on the synthetic virus China released; and Australia isolated the live virus... then the CDC came out and said the test kits were bad...)

All of this is just food for thought. Sorry lots of words but I think it will help address a lot of things going on as well as help to explain a lot of the 'testing' outrage.

Apologize for grammar and spelling this is just one typed out thought no review.
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I think that's a good assessment. The fact China isn't sharing info on a killer virus doesn't make sense. I know they are commies, but still. Wasn't Trump having meeting with these people over trade? And they won't share info on a deadly virus? Wtf?
They won't let scientists in to figure this shit out. It's fucked up. Then again, they are beating dogs heads in..guess I shouldn't expect much...

So, does China even have working test kits? Does ANYONE have a working test kit?

Our hospital had someone from a cruise ship who was sick. Were they able to even test for this virus? Probably not I'm assuming.

Would regular flu tests turn positive if they have WuFlu? Or would this virus be completely different ?
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Has the thought crossed anyone's mind that this whole thing might have something to do with our Kenyan Messiah, Soros, Hillary? I keep thinking about it, but I can't figure out why they would do this.
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How many shorts is Soro’s investments and the rest of the Billionaires cabal holding on China?

The Chinese can’t prevent the selling of stocks forever...
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From an article posted Jan. 23, link doesn’t post, here:

Acting FEMA Director Pete Gaynor on Wednesday offered President Trump a startling solution, Martial Law in the United States, to prevent the spread of a lethal Chinese Coronavirus that infected hundreds and killed at least 17 people in the Communist nation.

At first China blamed the virus on seafood. Then tainted “bat soup.” Now, the Chinesegovernment says rancid snake meat—a delicacy in china—may be the culprit. Regardless the cause, Xi Jinping responded by quarantining nearly 20 million people at the epicenter of the lethal pathogen, banning planes, trains, and automobiles from leaving or entering Wuhan in an unprecedented move aimed at containing the disease which has already spread to other countries. In America, FEMA took notice.

An agency source speaking under promise of anonymity said Gaynor cautioned Trump to doubt the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) assertion that only one infected person—a Washington man now under the care of a robotic surgeon—had entered the United States. That individual initially sought treatment for a common cold but went misdiagnosed for a week, during which time he could have inadvertently transmitted the virus to countless people.

“Whether or not he believes it, Gaynor said America may be in the middle of a pandemic and not even know it. He told Trump the CDC works under authority of the WHO, and that the WHO intentionally misrepresents facts to prevent widespread hysteria. He alleged hundreds or thousands in the U.S. might be already infected,” our source said.

And Xi Jinping, Gaynor told Trump, made the right move in imposing a de facto state of Martial Law in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. He suggested that Trump instruct Washington Governor Jay Inslee to at once declare Martial Law and quarantine Snohomish County. The unidentified patient, who is in his 30s and lives alone in Snohomish County, was determined to have close contact with 16 people during his five days back in the US before he received a diagnosis Monday for the contagious virus. Those 16 persons, Gaynor said, are potential carriers that could unwittingly infect an entire city or state, or even the nation.

FEMA, he said, was prepared to act and had taken the liberty of designing plans that wouldsee 1,500 armed FEMA agents descend on Snohomish County, setting up roadblocks and interrogating persons who display even a single symptom. Those symptoms, however, are like any other upper-respiratory ailment and can include coughing, sneezing, or clearing one’s throat.

“Snohomish county would just be a testbed,” our source said. “FEMA wants nationwide Martial Law and will use any crisis to work toward that goal. The virus in the latest crisis, and FEMA doesn’t want to waste it. Gaynor bluntly told Trump many Americans will resist Martial Law and that FEMA would take decisive action to deal with them.”

Gun confiscation, Gaynor told Trump, would be mandatory. FEMA would conduct no-knock“wellness checks” on residents and seize any and all firearms found in homes. These extreme measures, he added, are needed to prevent the citizenry from starting an insurrection on government authority.

But President Trump, our source said, raised an eyebrow and asked Gaynor what qualifications FEMA had to judge infected from non-infected persons. Gaynor’s response: Grant FEMA control of the CDC.

Trump allegedly said he would consider Gaynor’s idea, but wanted to hear what DHS Secretary Chad Wolf thought of FEMA’s plan.
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hesrightglassesoffwaitwhat
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All of the legit news and debunking sites are calling this a hoax.
“A person is smart, people are stupid.”
“Nobody knows until everybody knows”
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From an article posted Jan. 23, link doesn’t post, here:

Acting FEMA Director Pete Gaynor on Wednesday offered President Trump a startling solution, Martial Law in the United States, to prevent the spread of a lethal Chinese Coronavirus that infected hundreds and killed at least 17 people in the Communist nation.

At first China blamed the virus on seafood. Then tainted “bat soup.” Now, the Chinesegovernment says rancid snake meat—a delicacy in china—may be the culprit. Regardless the cause, Xi Jinping responded by quarantining nearly 20 million people at the epicenter of the lethal pathogen, banning planes, trains, and automobiles from leaving or entering Wuhan in an unprecedented move aimed at containing the disease which has already spread to other countries. In America, FEMA took notice.

An agency source speaking under promise of anonymity said Gaynor cautioned Trump to doubt the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) assertion that only one infected person—a Washington man now under the care of a robotic surgeon—had entered the United States. That individual initially sought treatment for a common cold but went misdiagnosed for a week, during which time he could have inadvertently transmitted the virus to countless people.

“Whether or not he believes it, Gaynor said America may be in the middle of a pandemic and not even know it. He told Trump the CDC works under authority of the WHO, and that the WHO intentionally misrepresents facts to prevent widespread hysteria. He alleged hundreds or thousands in the U.S. might be already infected,” our source said.

And Xi Jinping, Gaynor told Trump, made the right move in imposing a de facto state of Martial Law in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. He suggested that Trump instruct Washington Governor Jay Inslee to at once declare Martial Law and quarantine Snohomish County. The unidentified patient, who is in his 30s and lives alone in Snohomish County, was determined to have close contact with 16 people during his five days back in the US before he received a diagnosis Monday for the contagious virus. Those 16 persons, Gaynor said, are potential carriers that could unwittingly infect an entire city or state, or even the nation.

FEMA, he said, was prepared to act and had taken the liberty of designing plans that wouldsee 1,500 armed FEMA agents descend on Snohomish County, setting up roadblocks and interrogating persons who display even a single symptom. Those symptoms, however, are like any other upper-respiratory ailment and can include coughing, sneezing, or clearing one’s throat.

“Snohomish county would just be a testbed,” our source said. “FEMA wants nationwide Martial Law and will use any crisis to work toward that goal. The virus in the latest crisis, and FEMA doesn’t want to waste it. Gaynor bluntly told Trump many Americans will resist Martial Law and that FEMA would take decisive action to deal with them.”

Gun confiscation, Gaynor told Trump, would be mandatory. FEMA would conduct no-knock “wellness checks” on residents and seize any and all firearms found in homes. These extreme measures, he added, are needed to prevent the citizenry from starting an insurrection on government authority.

But President Trump, our source said, raised an eyebrow and asked Gaynor what qualifications FEMA had to judge infected from non-infected persons. Gaynor’s response: Grant FEMA control of the CDC.

Trump allegedly said he would consider Gaynor’s idea, but wanted to hear what DHS Secretary Chad Wolf thought of FEMA’s plan.
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What a crock of shit.

CDC does NOT work under the control of WHO.

CDC is part of HHS, which is a cabinet-level department that reports directly to the President of the United States.

Under no circumstances does CDC genuflect to WHO.

Conversely, WHO is able to function because of the financial and technical support of the US government.

The US also plays a role in governance of the body.

WHO is an element of the United Nations and a bureaucratic nightmare.

WHO is more of an organization that COORDINATES broad international responses to public health emergencies.

The saying is; "No Bucks, No Buck Rogers!" As such, WHO gives China head in public in order to keep the funding.

This is just the start at picking apart the bullshit in this incredibly inaccurate piece.

While no government organization runs smoothly, HHS / CDC and the National Academies are, hands down, world leaders in
public health, core research, disease prevention, etc..

Whenever shit goes sideways in the world in regards to disease outbreaks, while WHO gets the press attention, make no
mistake. The CDC is the one of the first groups they are on the phone with the help get shit under control.
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Watch Family Guy from 7 yrs ago. 2/10/13. Valentine's Day episode. Peter releasing virus.
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Yep.
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Copy/Past the first paragraph of article into google and many links can be found.
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Its FAKE

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Your article is fake.
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From an article posted Jan. 23, link doesn’t post, here:

Acting FEMA Director Pete Gaynor on Wednesday offered President Trump a startling solution, Martial Law in the United States, to prevent the spread of a lethal Chinese Coronavirus that infected hundreds and killed at least 17 people in the Communist nation.

At first China blamed the virus on seafood. Then tainted “bat soup.” Now, the Chinesegovernment says rancid snake meat—a delicacy in china—may be the culprit. Regardless the cause, Xi Jinping responded by quarantining nearly 20 million people at the epicenter of the lethal pathogen, banning planes, trains, and automobiles from leaving or entering Wuhan in an unprecedented move aimed at containing the disease which has already spread to other countries. In America, FEMA took notice.

An agency source speaking under promise of anonymity said Gaynor cautioned Trump to doubt the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) assertion that only one infected person—a Washington man now under the care of a robotic surgeon—had entered the United States. That individual initially sought treatment for a common cold but went misdiagnosed for a week, during which time he could have inadvertently transmitted the virus to countless people.

“Whether or not he believes it, Gaynor said America may be in the middle of a pandemic and not even know it. He told Trump the CDC works under authority of the WHO, and that the WHO intentionally misrepresents facts to prevent widespread hysteria. He alleged hundreds or thousands in the U.S. might be already infected,” our source said.

And Xi Jinping, Gaynor told Trump, made the right move in imposing a de facto state of Martial Law in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. He suggested that Trump instruct Washington Governor Jay Inslee to at once declare Martial Law and quarantine Snohomish County. The unidentified patient, who is in his 30s and lives alone in Snohomish County, was determined to have close contact with 16 people during his five days back in the US before he received a diagnosis Monday for the contagious virus. Those 16 persons, Gaynor said, are potential carriers that could unwittingly infect an entire city or state, or even the nation.

FEMA, he said, was prepared to act and had taken the liberty of designing plans that wouldsee 1,500 armed FEMA agents descend on Snohomish County, setting up roadblocks and interrogating persons who display even a single symptom. Those symptoms, however, are like any other upper-respiratory ailment and can include coughing, sneezing, or clearing one’s throat.

“Snohomish county would just be a testbed,” our source said. “FEMA wants nationwide Martial Law and will use any crisis to work toward that goal. The virus in the latest crisis, and FEMA doesn’t want to waste it. Gaynor bluntly told Trump many Americans will resist Martial Law and that FEMA would take decisive action to deal with them.”

Gun confiscation, Gaynor told Trump, would be mandatory. FEMA would conduct no-knock “wellness checks” on residents and seize any and all firearms found in homes. These extreme measures, he added, are needed to prevent the citizenry from starting an insurrection on government authority.

But President Trump, our source said, raised an eyebrow and asked Gaynor what qualifications FEMA had to judge infected from non-infected persons. Gaynor’s response: Grant FEMA control of the CDC.

Trump allegedly said he would consider Gaynor’s idea, but wanted to hear what DHS Secretary Chad Wolf thought of FEMA’s plan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77999315


What a crock of shit.

CDC does NOT work under the control of WHO.

CDC is part of HHS, which is a cabinet-level department that reports directly to the President of the United States.

Under no circumstances does CDC genuflect to WHO.

Conversely, WHO is able to function because of the financial and technical support of the US government.

The US also plays a role in governance of the body.

WHO is an element of the United Nations and a bureaucratic nightmare.

WHO is more of an organization that COORDINATES broad international responses to public health emergencies.

The saying is; "No Bucks, No Buck Rogers!" As such, WHO gives China head in public in order to keep the funding.

This is just the start at picking apart the bullshit in this incredibly inaccurate piece.

While no government organization runs smoothly, HHS / CDC and the National Academies are, hands down, world leaders in
public health, core research, disease prevention, etc..

Whenever shit goes sideways in the world in regards to disease outbreaks, while WHO gets the press attention, make no
mistake. The CDC is the one of the first groups they are on the phone with the help get shit under control.
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they give affirmative action jobs to native peoples.
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From an article posted Jan. 23, link doesn’t post, here:

Acting FEMA Director Pete Gaynor on Wednesday offered President Trump a startling solution, Martial Law in the United States, to prevent the spread of a lethal Chinese Coronavirus that infected hundreds and killed at least 17 people in the Communist nation.

At first China blamed the virus on seafood. Then tainted “bat soup.” Now, the Chinesegovernment says rancid snake meat—a delicacy in china—may be the culprit. Regardless the cause, Xi Jinping responded by quarantining nearly 20 million people at the epicenter of the lethal pathogen, banning planes, trains, and automobiles from leaving or entering Wuhan in an unprecedented move aimed at containing the disease which has already spread to other countries. In America, FEMA took notice.

An agency source speaking under promise of anonymity said Gaynor cautioned Trump to doubt the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) assertion that only one infected person—a Washington man now under the care of a robotic surgeon—had entered the United States. That individual initially sought treatment for a common cold but went misdiagnosed for a week, during which time he could have inadvertently transmitted the virus to countless people.

“Whether or not he believes it, Gaynor said America may be in the middle of a pandemic and not even know it. He told Trump the CDC works under authority of the WHO, and that the WHO intentionally misrepresents facts to prevent widespread hysteria. He alleged hundreds or thousands in the U.S. might be already infected,” our source said.

And Xi Jinping, Gaynor told Trump, made the right move in imposing a de facto state of Martial Law in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. He suggested that Trump instruct Washington Governor Jay Inslee to at once declare Martial Law and quarantine Snohomish County. The unidentified patient, who is in his 30s and lives alone in Snohomish County, was determined to have close contact with 16 people during his five days back in the US before he received a diagnosis Monday for the contagious virus. Those 16 persons, Gaynor said, are potential carriers that could unwittingly infect an entire city or state, or even the nation.

FEMA, he said, was prepared to act and had taken the liberty of designing plans that wouldsee 1,500 armed FEMA agents descend on Snohomish County, setting up roadblocks and interrogating persons who display even a single symptom. Those symptoms, however, are like any other upper-respiratory ailment and can include coughing, sneezing, or clearing one’s throat.

“Snohomish county would just be a testbed,” our source said. “FEMA wants nationwide Martial Law and will use any crisis to work toward that goal. The virus in the latest crisis, and FEMA doesn’t want to waste it. Gaynor bluntly told Trump many Americans will resist Martial Law and that FEMA would take decisive action to deal with them.”

Gun confiscation, Gaynor told Trump, would be mandatory. FEMA would conduct no-knock “wellness checks” on residents and seize any and all firearms found in homes. These extreme measures, he added, are needed to prevent the citizenry from starting an insurrection on government authority.

But President Trump, our source said, raised an eyebrow and asked Gaynor what qualifications FEMA had to judge infected from non-infected persons. Gaynor’s response: Grant FEMA control of the CDC.

Trump allegedly said he would consider Gaynor’s idea, but wanted to hear what DHS Secretary Chad Wolf thought of FEMA’s plan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77999315


What a crock of shit.

CDC does NOT work under the control of WHO.

CDC is part of HHS, which is a cabinet-level department that reports directly to the President of the United States.

Under no circumstances does CDC genuflect to WHO.

Conversely, WHO is able to function because of the financial and technical support of the US government.

The US also plays a role in governance of the body.

WHO is an element of the United Nations and a bureaucratic nightmare.

WHO is more of an organization that COORDINATES broad international responses to public health emergencies.

The saying is; "No Bucks, No Buck Rogers!" As such, WHO gives China head in public in order to keep the funding.

This is just the start at picking apart the bullshit in this incredibly inaccurate piece.

While no government organization runs smoothly, HHS / CDC and the National Academies are, hands down, world leaders in
public health, core research, disease prevention, etc..

Whenever shit goes sideways in the world in regards to disease outbreaks, while WHO gets the press attention, make no
mistake. The CDC is the one of the first groups they are on the phone with the help get shit under control.
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The CDC is a privately owned company.
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Caught red-handed! Same woman acts as nurse on day 1, and a cured patient from #FangCang on day 2, at #CCP's official "news" reports. One of the many scenes in #China during #coronavirusoutbreak


Check out @jenniferatntd’s Tweet: [link to twitter.com (secure)]

As a westerner, its difficult to dispute

grinning
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So if they’re having to fake cured patients, does that mean....?damned
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what the hell?

there has to be a couple of them.

that makes no sense.
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A notice in Wuhan and READ the comments!!!

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Caught red-handed! Same woman acts as nurse on day 1, and a cured patient from #FangCang on day 2, at #CCP's official "news" reports. One of the many scenes in #China during #coronavirusoutbreak


Check out @jenniferatntd’s Tweet: [link to twitter.com (secure)]

As a westerner, its difficult to dispute

grinning
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So if they’re having to fake cured patients, does that mean....?damned
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what the hell?

there has to be a couple of them.

that makes no sense.
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doesn't look like the same person at all





GLP