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Oh shit the bed. Fucking hell.
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Multiply that by 10,000
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How many continents now?
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According to Dr. Tardos barely one
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Who is this Dr. Tardos?
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Look up MERS and SARS and you are going to see this telltale GGO (Ground Glass Opacity) on Xray or CT that is indicative of the pathogens.

Zerohedge deserves a Pulitzer if they are the first to put the genuine story together.
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This virus may be the trifecta.

I had a feeling cancer would pop up in the mix. In fact, I put money on it.

"Ground-glass opacity (GGO) is a radiological finding in computed tomography (CT) consisting of a hazy opacity that does not obscure the underlying bronchial structures or pulmonary vessels (1). ... However, lesions with GGO that do not disappear are often lung cancer or its precursor lesions (4)."

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Something not right.

President Trump very subdued, and said again that the flu would mostly go away in April.

Worrisome, even though I support the President for whatever reason he is still holding this position. I'm confident that he knows much that we don't. He may be buying time for us here to prep as much as possible before the truth has to come out.
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I'm not, but you have to weigh all the evidence that you see and eventually reach some conclusions other than, "Everything is bullshit." I have been following this since January 20th and I believe it to be a disaster. If I'm wrong, so be it, and if I see evidence to the contrary, I take it in to consideration, but it sure looks like disaster to me.
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I agree, with you on weighing the evidence. But why are you not actually following those guidelines for yourself? I see you just reacting to tweets like you just did and carrying on like someone delivered you a pamphlet full of empirical data backing it up.

It really doesnt matter. I actually am beginning to think critical thinking is verboten here.. because I know people here are smart , I can see it in how they present themselves and what they say.. but, still, critical thinking is actively discarded.

no worries my friend. be well sir.
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What I said was, "It appears that freedom of movement is now gone." Does that sound like I accepted it without any questioning at all to you? I would expect such measures given what I know about what's been going on in Wuhan, but I'm not there so I can't confirm it 100%.

I will admit to being far more to the disaster side of this now, though. I wasn't in the beginning, but as I've seen events unfold, I see disaster.
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Rev has been here a long time. With experience comes wisdom.
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hf
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Hey guys i made my own thread but ill copy and paste here

San Diego VA

I went to get a simple pain procedure done and its on the 5th floor. However when the elevator opened there was a combination of 40 nurses and doctors waiting to go down the elevators. They looked a little confused why i was on this floor and heading to the waiting/ check in area. As i walked to (what was) my waiting area i quickly realized i was in the wrong place (they had moved my area) and i started reading placards. INFECTIOUS DISEASE.

Just using my common sense here..... but they are prepping guys.
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WUHAN: RESIDENTS MUST STAY HOME EXCEPT FOR CARE, KEY SERVICES
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"Wuhan is under quarantine"

why do you think this kinda non-stop drip drip drip "news" literally just rewording the same junk over and over and over again is useful?

I mean, I guess it could be useful if the MSM is talking about it, cause then we would know what they want us to see and be thinking about..

but these random twitter accounts stating the literal oldest news on earth.. why post it?

not criticizing, you must have a reason no?
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That's actually news. Until today, they were allowed out of their houses every other day. It appears even that freedom of movement is now gone.
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This is war. The #wuhan gov announced today all residential complexes will be sealed up. People need to get permission to exit. My mom told me there’s only one food market in our complex, and she couldn’t even get flour. #coronavirus

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Same person tweeted the below as well...



My youngest uncle, a middle school PE teacher and Communist Party member, has been sent to work at a remote residential compound as a security guard. It’s a 7-day shift and no masks were provided.

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Expendable Party Asset that won’t be missed when he dies.
Yay Socialism!
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Something not right.

President Trump very subdued, and said again that the flu would mostly go away in April.

Worrisome, even though I support the President for whatever reason he is still holding this position. I'm confident that he knows much that we don't. He may be buying time for us here to prep as much as possible before the truth has to come out.
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Man you really are stupid. Trump doesn't give a shit about you.
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WUWT updates on corona virus. 2/14/20
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Wuhan transmission and clinical progression
Many more case reports are now giving a clear clinical picture.
Transmission route is either contact or inhalation (of real concern, because more flu like than cold like—even with annual flu shots influenza R0 remains about 2 because of flu vaccine issues covered in the previous post). Based on SARS and influenza, this means the likely Wuhan R0 is 3ish, so very contagious. The significant inhalation route is now shown by both the Diamond Princess cruise ship experiment (more below) and by the fact that ordinary surgical masks proved ineffective in the Wuhan hospital setting (JAMA, previous post).
Incubation period is 7-10 days from initial infection. The good news is that the 14-day quarantine adopted pretty much universally last week should therefore be effective (with a margin of safety) at Wuhan containment. But in most of Southeast Asia outside China, Japan, and Singapore, or in Africa should Wuhan spread there, 14-day quarantine will be difficult or impossible to maintain so the possibility of a pandemic remains.

The bad news is that Wuhan IS transmissible during some later part of the symptomless incubation period. The definitive clinical proof (there was comment debate about the reliability of previous post evidence from Japan and Germany) is an age 50’s UK male who attended an about 100 person sales conference in Singapore 1/20-1/22 2020. A single individual from Wuhan also attended this conference and was–per Singapore Wuhan containment policies– symptomless on arrival (no fever, no cough). That either symptomless or very early symptomatic individual transmitted Wuhan to the UK citizen in Singapore. The UK individual then flew to France for a 4-day family ski vacation 1/24-1/28 at Le Contamines-Montjoie. During the 4-day vacation the UK male remained symptomless (entire incubation time Singapore plus France at most 8 days) but transmitted Wuhan to 11 other individuals, 5 later diagnosed in UK (family and friends), 5 later diagnosed in France, and 1 later diagnosed in Spain. Clearly this case is NOT family close proximity contact transmission. This case may be a “super spreader” outlier, BUT it means a symptomless R0 as high as 11 cannot be ruled out, with a symptomless transmission period of several days. By comparison, the R0 for measles (absent vaccination) is 12-18, so a horrific Wuhan symptomless R0 of 11 is within the realm of actual possibility.

This is VERY bad news, as the formal CDC guidance on URI’s is that transmission risk is highest with peak symptoms (equating to peak virion shedding)–as was the case with SARS. Not so with Wuhan, reinforcing the public health necessity of strict 14-day quarantine.

Much More info at link
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You can still buy a nebulizer on Amazon for around $45.00. a year ago, I bought one for $25 so they are steadily going up. Shop now before these go the way of the N95 masks.
 Quoting: **Watcher**


Yea...it's that, or another 100 lbs of rice. Limited resources here. That's why I'm asking if a diffuser is good enough.
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Try it. Bend over it with a towel over you head and sniff.

When I was young, we’d set a bowl of boiling water in the bottom of the sink. Add Vicks to the water. Bend over with the towel tent over the head, and inhale.

Try it with your oils. Bet it would feel great.

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THIS /\ ... I grew up with extreme asthma as a kid and hated the feeling that Albuterol gave me so would stick my head over the sink with a bowl of boiling hot water and inhale the steam until I could breathe again ... Knowing what it feels like to suffocate because your lungs aren't operating right is a terrible terrible thing . I would have taken just about any other doom than this damned virus !!
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hugs I feel for everyone in fear over this virus
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CDC's coronavirus test kits still not ready to ship after some were initially found to be faulty

[link to edition.cnn.com (secure)]

So, all those past tests were faulty...???
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LIVE NOW!
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Researchers in Umeå in Sweden, Heidelberg in Germany, and Zhangzhou in China have carried out a review of several scientific studies of the novel coronavirus, COVD-19. In total, the researchers found 12 studies of sufficiently high quality. The studies consisted of estimations of the growth rate based upon the cases observed in the Chinese population, and based upon statistical and mathematical methods.

The earliest studies of the coronavirus indicated a relatively low transmissibility. Thereafter, the transmissibility rose rapidly to stabilise between 2–3 in the most recent studies. The reproduction number in the studies summed up to a mean of 3.28, and a median of 2.79, which is significantly higher than the World Health Organization's estimation of 1.4–2.5.

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This was given to members of Congress a few days ago.

Many survivors of coronavirus acquire pulmonary fibrosis which results in surviving 3-5 years.
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I would bet that most of those smug fucks didn't even read it

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This was in the news today:


'There's no doubt': Top US infectious disease doctor says Wuhan coronavirus can spread even when people have no symptoms
In other words, an infected person not showing symptoms could still transmit the virus to someone else, based on what he has learned from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

"What I've learned in the last two weeks is that the spectrum of this illness is much broader than was originally presented. There's much more asymptomatic illness," "A number of the confirmed cases that we confirmed actually just presented with a little sore throat."
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Something not right.

President Trump very subdued, and said again that the flu would mostly go away in April.

Worrisome, even though I support the President for whatever reason he is still holding this position. I'm confident that he knows much that we don't. He may be buying time for us here to prep as much as possible before the truth has to come out.
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Man you really are stupid. Trump doesn't give a shit about you.
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I'm far from stupid. Well prepped, well armed, well informed via current and prior military contacts.

I have no delusions about our government being concerned about "ME" specifically, but I do believe that gov. is concerned with protecting our country as far as the virus is concerned i.e. preventing panic, riots, bank runs etc.
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Multiply that by 10,000
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74287764


How many continents now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77885366


According to Dr. Tardos barely one
 Quoting: The Cure

Who is this Dr. Tardos?
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This was in the news today:


'There's no doubt': Top US infectious disease doctor says Wuhan coronavirus can spread even when people have no symptoms
In other words, an infected person not showing symptoms could still transmit the virus to someone else, based on what he has learned from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

"What I've learned in the last two weeks is that the spectrum of this illness is much broader than was originally presented. There's much more asymptomatic illness," "All of the confirmed cases [ in WHITESthat we confirmed actually just presented with a little sore throat."
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fixed
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I know a bunch of people planning to go on cruise ships and vacations in the coming months. They say "it's only happening in China" cruisewuflu
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I actually booked a cruise for May 3rd on Harmony of the Seas out of Florida. I don't think I am going to go. I am hoping by then that they will cancel it and I can get my money back.
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Cruise companies may be bankrupt by then, just sayin'.
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I can probably kiss my $4600 goodbye. I recognize that in the grand scheme of things, this is insignificant. But still.
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usually if you cancel early enough you will get most of you're money back, read the contract hf
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Hey guys i made my own thread but ill copy and paste here

San Diego VA

I went to get a simple pain procedure done and its on the 5th floor. However when the elevator opened there was a combination of 40 nurses and doctors waiting to go down the elevators. They looked a little confused why i was on this floor and heading to the waiting/ check in area. As i walked to (what was) my waiting area i quickly realized i was in the wrong place (they had moved my area) and i started reading placards. INFECTIOUS DISEASE.

Just using my common sense here..... but they are prepping guys.
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Good info. You have a pin.
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CDC's coronavirus test kits still not ready to ship after some were initially found to be faulty

[link to edition.cnn.com (secure)]

So, all those past tests were faulty...???
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"anything that can go wrong, will go wrong."

bert-facepalm
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Something not right.

President Trump very subdued, and said again that the flu would mostly go away in April.

Worrisome, even though I support the President for whatever reason he is still holding this position. I'm confident that he knows much that we don't. He may be buying time for us here to prep as much as possible before the truth has to come out.
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Read that Putin also said that travel between Russia and China would normalize in April. Sounds like they both got the same report.
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Hey guys i made my own thread but ill copy and paste here

San Diego VA

I went to get a simple pain procedure done and its on the 5th floor. However when the elevator opened there was a combination of 40 nurses and doctors waiting to go down the elevators. They looked a little confused why i was on this floor and heading to the waiting/ check in area. As i walked to (what was) my waiting area i quickly realized i was in the wrong place (they had moved my area) and i started reading placards. INFECTIOUS DISEASE.

Just using my common sense here..... but they are prepping guys.
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Possible bump
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I actually booked a cruise for May 3rd on Harmony of the Seas out of Florida. I don't think I am going to go. I am hoping by then that they will cancel it and I can get my money back.
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Cruise companies may be bankrupt by then, just sayin'.
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I can probably kiss my $4600 goodbye. I recognize that in the grand scheme of things, this is insignificant. But still.
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usually if you cancel early enough you will get most of you're money back, read the contract hf
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Hope that the contract is not written in Chinese !
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Chest CT is helpful (appendix)
and is more sensitive than x-ray in
identifying viral pneumonia. Imaging
of patients with COVID-19 initially
revealed characteristic patchy infil
tration, progressing to large ground-
glass opacities that often present
bilaterally. The differential diagnosis
for viral pneumonia includes respir
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virus.

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novel coronavirus disease in fever clinics
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Any news about the spanish hooker from China Who was said to have spread it to clients last week?
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Any news about the spanish hooker from China Who was said to have spread it to clients last week?
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CDC's coronavirus test kits still not ready to ship after some were initially found to be faulty

[link to edition.cnn.com (secure)]

So, all those past tests were faulty...???
 Quoting: The Cure


"anything that can go wrong, will go wrong."

bert-facepalm
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I posted about this last night and it was rather long. I just want to clarify to everyone that a PCR test don't instantly detect the virus (meaning you literally have to have enough viral RNA/DNA in your sample to begin with).

A PCR is an amplification test that looks for a specific strand of RNA or DNA. It will also look for multiple pieces of the stand of an RNA/DNA. It will then "amplify" them by attempting to "grow" them in the testing process.

The results are the "amplified" virus from the original test based on the RNA/DNA stand and/or marker strands.

A test that is positive will identify all markers. An indeterminate test will not identify all markers but it indicates that it identified some of the markers. For example, if there were three markers strands and it positively identified two and partially identified the third... that is not a positive test but an indetermined test.

The point of a PCR in terms of viruses is to identify it after infection but before antibodies are built. Further, there has to be enough of the viral DNA/RNA to amplify it. yet further it will still have a statistical basis when searching for multiple markers. It has to because that is how the test is designed; it is designed to confirm the presence AND it is not designed to rule out the presence of a virus.

Yes, these tests do require special equipment to run that are not readily available in most places.

Though I want to point out something that I believe is very important and very telling.

1. China has not released a live copy of the virus they have only given the structure to synthesize the virus.

2. A few days ago during one of the WHO press briefing, one of the first questions asked was "Is it true that Australia was able to isolate the live virus from a patient." That struck me as odd because it was not important it would not be asked nor asked by the person that asked it. (Which I am pretty positive that it is true)

3. 18 to 24 hours later the CDC says there is an error in the test causing indeterminate results; due to an ingredient in the test.

The point is the base thing needed in a PCR test is to know what you are looking for and if you don't have the right strands of RNA targeted then... you end up with multiple indeterminate tests because you might show 4 of 5 markers highly visible but one marker is only faint... (The RNA/DNA starts to target are one of the five key ingredients in the test... it just seems odd the way the results of the test are analyzed that it comes as indeterminate; since that means it sees something it is looking for but not all of it or not enough of it... both of which are needed to statistically confirm it)

Those points may be something or maybe nothing. I only bring it up because I personally thought it was odd; not that I am saying what happened, because I don't know.

Though given the nature of the test those showing up as indeterminate will likely become positive.

I have tried to simplify the above but you can look up PCR tests online a good place is with HIV. I use HIV as an example because the PCR was invented around the time of the HIV epidemic and it will also show that the same timelines and testing results for HIV are the same as this Corona Virus.

Sorry long. I just think it is pretty important for people to understand how the test works so they don't misunderstand what the test is doing.

I reposted this because I want people to understand what this test is how it is conducted and what could be/go wrong.
(It is better to have a live virus vs sytensized virus to design these test FYI)
MSM said hold my beer and watch this....
MS America drank the beer and did not watch... and here we are.
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Any news about the spanish hooker from China Who was said to have spread it to clients last week?
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Hey guys i made my own thread but ill copy and paste here

San Diego VA

I went to get a simple pain procedure done and its on the 5th floor. However when the elevator opened there was a combination of 40 nurses and doctors waiting to go down the elevators. They looked a little confused why i was on this floor and heading to the waiting/ check in area. As i walked to (what was) my waiting area i quickly realized i was in the wrong place (they had moved my area) and i started reading placards. INFECTIOUS DISEASE.

Just using my common sense here..... but they are prepping guys.
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Hey guys i made my own thread but ill copy and paste here

San Diego VA

I went to get a simple pain procedure done and its on the 5th floor. However when the elevator opened there was a combination of 40 nurses and doctors waiting to go down the elevators. They looked a little confused why i was on this floor and heading to the waiting/ check in area. As i walked to (what was) my waiting area i quickly realized i was in the wrong place (they had moved my area) and i started reading placards. INFECTIOUS DISEASE.

Just using my common sense here..... but they are prepping guys.
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Yes
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You want to judge the severity of this.

When they stop large convention center events for elected officials. Until then just relax.





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