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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78364965 United Kingdom 02/22/2020 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 (@BNODesk) Man previously thought to be 'patient zero' in Italy's outbreak never had the virus, deputy health minister says. It's now unknown how the outbreak began - La Repubblica Wow. Sounds like Iran all over again. Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work' Clusters in South Korea, Singapore and Iran are leading to a jump in cases of the viral illness outside China Trouble finding sources may signal has begun spreading too widely for tried-and-tested ways to stamp it out Ian Mackay said 'spot fires' around the world could mean 'what we are going to have is probably a pandemic' And it's almost certainly being spread by people who show such mild symptoms that no one can tell, said Dr. Amesh Adalja of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. Dr Adalja said: 'If that's the case, all of these containment methods are not going to work. It's likely mixed in the cold and flu season all over the place, in multiple countries' and gone unnoticed until someone gets severely ill.' These milder symptoms are good news 'in terms of not as many people dying,' said Mackay, of Australia. 'But it's really bad news if you are trying to stop a pandemic,' he added. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] |
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Forum Administrator 02/22/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 "experts" keep saying "this flu" will be gone in april when the weather gets better. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77805564 No worries folks! How about all that cold weather in Singapore, Thailand, Viet Nam and HK right now. heat wont stop direct person to person contact but it does reduce surface to person transmission quit substantially actually. Many pages ago, we had some data that to kill CV-19 requires sustained temps of 160F +. Cannot remember how long sustained, but it was suggested clothes in dryer on sanitize for an hour+. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78507501 Croatia 02/22/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25455016 The word quarantine actually translates to 40 days of isolation Now that is interesting: quarantine, n. (ˈkwɒrəntiːn) Also 7 quarantene, 8 -in, 7–8 quarentine. 1.1 Law. A period of forty days during which a widow, entitled to dower, had the right to remain in the chief mansion-house of her deceased husband; hence, the right of a widow to remain in the house during this period. 1609 Skene Reg. Maj. 56 (Acts Robt. III, c. 20) Anent widowes, quha‥can not haue their quarantene without pley. 1628 Coke On Litt. 32 b, If she marry within the forty days she loseth her quarentine. 1767 Blackstone Comm. II. 135 These forty days are called the widow's quarentine. 1865 Nichols Britton II. 247 Some other decent house shall be provided for their dwelling, where they may keep their quarantine. The word "quarantine" originates from the Venetian dialect form of the Italian quaranta giorni, meaning "forty days". This is due to the 40-day isolation of ships and people before entering the city-state of Ragusa (modern Dubrovnik in Croatia).[11] This was practiced as a measure of disease prevention related to the Black Death. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] So in medieval Venetia they managed traffic and passenger streams to avoid an epidemic. And in 2020 they completely fuck up..... Crazy. it was actually Republic of Ragusa, not venetia. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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User ID: 77710388 United States 02/22/2020 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ... Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA Jesuit "Pope" not WuFlu contaminated yet? Remember he is living with one lung and half his second lung. Fits the Last Pope prophecy No one will be able to travel to Rome for the election ceremony. ST. MALACHY ALERT When is that election? After this fake pope is officially declared ded and they convene of the next Conclave to meet for electing a successor. Remember there is still a legit Pope in HIding. His name is Joseph Ratzinger. He is 96 and some. Ten years older than the fake pope. I want to see Ratzinger surviving the Argentinian Jesuit. And this Chinese year is year of the Metal Rat. |
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Forum Administrator 02/22/2020 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Still no cases in Africa Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77417102 Does that mean black people are immune to the virus? Ultimate biological weapon!!! Holy shit!!! It means that in much of the African continent, they cannot even test for the clap, let alone CV-19. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78510268 02/22/2020 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 That Greece has no cases has to be because they have no test kits. Greece is a travel destination and will be a bomb site soon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78450791 it has, but they hide it from the 1 january we have over 300 deads from uknown flu dying from heavy pneumonia, officially 50, but they say nothing about the virus, they call it flu,today news nothing |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71083097 United States 02/22/2020 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 In the absence of electricity, of couurse you can use candles but they burn too fast and can cause fires. Lamps using oil create heat which againcan cause fire and is miserable in hot humid summers. But solar outdoor lighting can recharge and be safely used and then not waste batteries that are needed for other things. It is very difficult to make a bright burning torch that produces adequate illumination and burns long. Imagine trying to look for a lost child with an old fashioned torch. You are going conserve your flashlights. Some have very intense LED lighting that act as spot lights, but few have these. IF people are CARELESS, a house fire could start, and if there is no water pressure or inadequate water pressure at hydrants, then one house fire could burn down an entire neighborhood. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76514802 United States 02/22/2020 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 "experts" keep saying "this flu" will be gone in april when the weather gets better. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77805564 No worries folks! How about all that cold weather in Singapore, Thailand, Viet Nam and HK right now. heat wont stop direct person to person contact but it does reduce surface to person transmission quit substantially actually. Many pages ago, we had some data that to kill CV-19 requires sustained temps of 160F +. Cannot remember how long sustained, but it was suggested clothes in dryer on sanitize for an hour+. UV-C light will kill it. But your body can’t be exposed to the light. Might be good to disinfect masks, gloves and other porous and non-porous surfaces. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73864839 United States 02/22/2020 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Quoting: (:-DeeZe Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Jan 26, 2020 Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus by Andrew W. Saul, Editor (OMNS January 26, 2020) The coronavirus pandemic can be dramatically slowed, or stopped, with the immediate widespread use of high doses of vitamin C. Physicians have demonstrated the powerful antiviral action of vitamin C for decades. There has been a lack of media coverage of this effective and successful approach against viruses in general, and coronavirus in particular. It is very important to maximize the body's anti-oxidative capacity and natural immunity to prevent and minimize symptoms when a virus attacks the human body. The host environment is crucial. Preventing is obviously easier than treating severe illness. But treat serious illness seriously. Do not hesitate to seek medical attention. It is not an either-or choice. Vitamin C can be used right along with medicines when they are indicated. "I have not seen any flu yet that was not cured or markedly ameliorated by massive doses of vitamin C." (Robert F. Cathcart, MD) The physicians of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service and the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine urge a nutrient-based method to prevent or minimize symptoms for future viral infection. The following inexpensive supplemental levels are recommended for adults; for children reduce these in proportion to body weight: Vitamin C: 3,000 milligrams (or more) daily, in divided doses. Vitamin D3: 2,000 International Units daily. (Start with 5,000 IU/day for two weeks, then reduce to 2,000) Magnesium: 400 mg daily (in citrate, malate, chelate, or chloride form) Zinc: 20 mg daily Selenium: 100 mcg (micrograms) daily Vitamin C [1], Vitamin D [2], magnesium [3], zinc [4], and selenium [5] have been shown to strengthen the immune system against viruses. The basis for using high doses of vitamin C to prevent and combat virus-caused illness may be traced back to vitamin C's early success against polio, first reported in the late 1940s.[6] Many people are unaware, even surprised, to learn this. Further clinical evidence built up over the decades, leading to an anti-virus protocol published in 1980.[7] It is important to remember that preventing and treating respiratory infections with large amounts of vitamin C is well established. Those who believe that vitamin C generally has merit, but massive doses are ineffective or somehow harmful, will do well to read the original papers for themselves. To dismiss the work of these doctors simply because they had success so long ago sidesteps a more important question: Why has the benefit of their clinical experience not been presented to the public by responsible governmental authorities, especially in the face of a viral pandemic? [link to orthomolecular.org] The mega-dosing theory with Vitamin C is to a large degree discredited. Modest benefits are demonstrated for the common cold. Benefits are not superior when supplement intakes of more than 1,000 mg/day are compared to intakes between 200 and 1,000 mg/day, and so not limited to the mega-dose range.[183][184] The theory that large amounts of intravenous ascorbic acid can be used to treat late-stage cancer is - some forty years after Pauling's seminal paper - still considered unproven and still in need of high quality research.[44][45] However, a lack of conclusive evidence has not stopped individual physicians from prescribing intravenous ascorbic acid to thousands of people with cancer.[45] Wiki I work in creating training and educational videos for a large oncology network that does phase 1 clinical trials with it's own drug development unit. I've held this position for 10 years and had many opportunities to discuss this with research physicians. Repeated evidence points toward vit c being beneficial to immune response. It's not a cure for everything but it absolutely benefits the immune system. The whole area of immunotherapy is based on cancer being a product of failed immune response. I have been taking 3,000mg of lipo-spherical C a day since 2011 and have not had any illness since that time. I do not take the flu vaccine. As far as research being conclusive you should always keep in mind that most research is rarely reproducible. See link: [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] |
Nora User ID: 14880987 United States 02/22/2020 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Probably gets indoors by our shoes. We've started spraying soles of shoes with Lysol outside and then leaving shoes by door. Spraying all outerwear with alcohol and essential oil mix. Throwing some things in dryer.Trying not to wear anything twice that went out in public but putting directly to the laundry then running in for short sudsy shower. Spraying delivered packages outside with Lysol before bringing in- then using disinfectant wipes on contents. What are you all doing for preventative measures. No, I haven't read through entire thread. Moves way too fast! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76946979 United States 02/22/2020 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I’m seeing medical reports that the #Coronavirus has a significantly lower capability to develop beyond an asymptotic stage for many Caucasian people, due to Asian males having a higher incidence of ACE2 receptors (entry point) in the lungs than their Caucasian equivalents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77950096 [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] Tell that to the two old white people in ICU with pneumonia from that ship. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20038442 Slovenia 02/22/2020 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I'm thinking with this virus, maybe keeping low humidity indoors might be better for killing virus that rode in on us through clothing or other items. Maybe under 25% say? Might reduce 9 day lifespan on objects by half or more? Fans? Heaters? Quoting: Nora 14880987 Probably gets indoors by our shoes. We've started spraying soles of shoes with Lysol outside and then leaving shoes by door. Spraying all outerwear with alcohol and essential oil mix. Throwing some things in dryer.Trying not to wear anything twice that went out in public but putting directly to the laundry then running in for short sudsy shower. Spraying delivered packages outside with Lysol before bringing in- then using disinfectant wipes on contents. What are you all doing for preventative measures. No, I haven't read through entire thread. Moves way too fast! According to the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) it's "currently unclear if a person can get 2019-nCoV by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes." In fact, not a lot is known about the COVID-19 virus at all, so researchers are turning to similar coronaviruses, like SARS and MERS, for answers. Reviewing the literature on all available human and veterinary viruses within this family, encompassing 22 studies, researchers have found that the human pathogens can persist on surfaces and remain infectious at room temperature for up to nine days. (To put that in perspective, the measles virus can live on contaminated surfaces for up to two hours.) Granted, that's the upper end of a coronavirus lifespan, but on average, researchers say this family of viruses can survive between four and five days on various materials like aluminium, wood, paper, plastic and glass. Some of the veterinary coronaviruses - the ones that can only infect animals - could even persist for longer than 28 days. "Low temperature and high air humidity further increase their lifespan," says physician Günter Kampf at the Greifswald University Hospital. [link to www.sciencealert.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78497264 Greece 02/22/2020 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Shills are funny but I feel for them, denial+fear+bias explains it. They can't get it, the normal flu is something societies deal with for decades. We know the numbers, what to expect, how many beds we need etc. When a disease out of the ordinary comes in, the health system can be easily overwhelmed. In my country we have ~50k beds in total with 3/4 being filled at any given time (average stay of ~5 days). When you see China building new hospitals like crazy and you know it takes many weeks of treatment for a bed to be free again, you can picture what will happen when the time comes. Scary stuff... |