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On the subject of lowered T-cells....

Most of the CoV mucus we're hearing about is either clear, white, or some terrifying brown, but not yellow or green.

Do you know what makes mucus yellow and green? T-cells. It's a sign that t-cells are fighting an infection.
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Different bacteria will change color of mucous...green is pseudomonas and yellow can be from e.coli or others

Viruses dont cause purulent secretions...hence it is clear...brown would be old blood from severe infection...white? Not sure...probably just normal and thick from being dried out from anhydrous ventilator oxygen
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I'm confused by the number of pinned "coronahoax" posts in the forum- is this virus real or not??? The DOW is shooting up again, cases are down, trump and some states want to open back up- wtf is going on????
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accolumbo
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Um, what am I not good at? Have you seen the pinned threads? This is the only thread with legit corona info... the rest are calling this a hoax... what am I missing?
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Nothing. We even let retards give their opinion.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


They really have hijacked the site, though. I saw Trin's poll the other day and only 6.5% or so of the site thinks it's a hoax, yet they are incredibly vocal and given the number of hoax threads that get pinned and hoax posts that get made, it gives the impression GLP mostly thinks it's all fake when they are a very small minority.

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Here is a news article from one of my local channels about the virus attacking the blood of a 63 year old man with no underlying health issues. He has already completed the hydroxychloroquine treatment, and now the family is hoping someone will donate plasma so they can try antibody treatments on the man.

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Thanks.

Sorry for folks that are going through this.
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The latest UK figures show 778 people with Coronavirus have died in hospital, taking the total recorded number of deaths to 12,107.

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Many older people are being "airbrushed" out of coronavirus figures in the UK, charities have warned.

The official death toll has been criticised for only covering people who die in hospital - but not those in care homes or in their own houses.

Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey told the BBC the daily figure was based on hospital deaths because "it's accurate and quick".

Meanwhile, scientists will begin a review of the UK lockdown later.


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Time to don my bio battle rattle and head out.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Be safe! hf
 Quoting: Serenity_Seeker


Made it back.

Report from HEB in a town a bit north of Houston:

Produce at about 80%, meats at about 60%.

Limits on eggs and bread; both at about 50%.

Coffee getting low, at about 40% -- THIS IS SOME BAD SHIT!!!!!!!!

Some flour, some sugar -- at about 25%.

Milk and other dairy stocked.

Sparse TP, limit of 2. I scored last family pack of Cottonelle, and another 6 pack of store brand, both mega rolls.

Cleaning supplies at about 25%. Very low on dishwasher detergent.

Wine and beer at about 80%.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


You are brave. But can also leave the kids at home. You have decon help. And y’all still drive.

I am sticking with my slow trickle amazon orders.
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NEW: Two of the world's largest drug companies, GSK and Sanofi, combine forces to develop coronavirus vaccine.
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did anyone sleep?
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Yup, from 2:30 am CT till about 9 am!

6 hours for me......
been averaging about 3 per night for 3 months!

I feel supercharged, will not need ANY sleep for days!

Edit, My previous post was at 4 am.....so make that less than 5 hours.


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Germany: another dangerous outbreak in a hospital in Hamburg, now in a cancer & leukemia ward, 20 patients + 20 doctors/nurses already tested positive...
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COVID-VIRUS RESISTS HIGH TEMPERATURE TO ALMOST BOILING POINT


French scientists had to bring the temperature to almost boiling point to kill virus.

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Results have implications for the safety of lab technicians working with the virus.


The new coronavirus can survive long exposure to high temperatures, according to an experiment by a team of French scientists.


Professor Remi Charrel and colleagues at the Aix-Marseille University in southern France heated the virus that causes Covid-19 to 60 degrees Celsius (140 Fahrenheit) for an hour and found that some strains were still able to replicate.

The scientists had to bring the temperature to almost boiling point to kill the virus completely, according to their non-peer-reviewed paper released on bioRxiv.org on Saturday. The results have implications for the safety of lab technicians working with the virus.


The team in France infected African green monkey kidney cells, a standard host material for viral activity tests, with a strain isolated from a patient in Berlin, Germany. The cells were loaded into tubes representing two different types of environments, one “clean” and the other “dirty” with animal proteins to simulate biological contamination in real-life samples, such as an oral swab.

After the heating, the viral strains in the clean environment were thoroughly deactivated. Some strains in the dirty samples, however, survived.

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bye bye summer...
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Germany: another dangerous outbreak in a hospital in Hamburg, now in a cancer & leukemia ward, 20 patients + 20 doctors/nurses already tested positive...
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Just when you think it can't get any worse...
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I bet he is.
 Quoting: Snuffielover


Good to see you here, Snuffie.

How are you doing?
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Thanks for checking up on me. Not so good today. Grey, dreary weather makes me moody. Been feeling gutachy and off most of the day, didn't even want to eat. Doing my best to stay afloat.
 Quoting: Snuffielover



For whatever it's worth we're here for you. Lot of people having similar feelings so you're not alone in that respect.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Even I am taking it one moment at a time. I am home with a 4 yr old and a dog... both needy. I have found that confining everyone in the front bedroom with the large window has helped everyone.

I am horrified about what is going to become of the planet. But all I can control are my own thoughts and actions. I would like to see more folks work on inner strength in this time of horrible change.
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In Massachusetts 54 inmates, 48 correctional officers and 14 staff members have tested positive for the Corona Virus from all the jails or prisons in Massachusetts. In addition 296 inmates have been released due to a high court ruling.

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Time to don my bio battle rattle and head out.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Be safe! hf
 Quoting: Serenity_Seeker


Made it back.

Report from HEB in a town a bit north of Houston:

Produce at about 80%, meats at about 60%.

Limits on eggs and bread; both at about 50%.

Coffee getting low, at about 40% -- THIS IS SOME BAD SHIT!!!!!!!!

Some flour, some sugar -- at about 25%.

Milk and other dairy stocked.

Sparse TP, limit of 2. I scored last family pack of Cottonelle, and another 6 pack of store brand, both mega rolls.

Cleaning supplies at about 25%. Very low on dishwasher detergent.

Wine and beer at about 80%.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


You are brave. But can also leave the kids at home. You have decon help. And y’all still drive.

I am sticking with my slow trickle amazon orders.
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I noticed that the lowest is flour; you do not mention it, but yeast must be just as low, or lower, and without that you don't make acceptable bread.
Hope that you have a good reserve of flour and dry yeast; otherwise you can try to make it yourself.
You can translate this page:
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Hi GLP family. Missed you guys and gals. Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is holding up.

I think we have another 3 weeks or so to go until the worst of this 1st wave is over.

Economic doom is right around the corner but hasn't taken hold yet.

If you don't know much about lead vs lag indicators of things, look into it.

- Jackal
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This recipe for live yeast (dough) is subtitled in English
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Here's the reality of this situation.

Things rarely turn out to be the worst, or best case scenario.

We had a bad virus show up, and our governments stepped all over our rights to contain it.

Their containment efforts didn't do shit, but they did manage to lower the bar for what we'll except in terms of our rights being shit on.

The virus spread far and wide, and was unchecked by our bullshit containment methods. This could of been the big one, none of us would have known in advance, so being prepared, is always the best option.

Personally, I have set myself up for long term off the grid living. I have been at home mostly, and I've been very cautious when I've been out. I don't think this virus is a big deal, but I'm also not trying to tempt fate.

I give no fucks about people's hysterical opinions, and I don't fuck with nothing burgers either.

I want facts, numbers and stats. I'm not one to gamble for shits and giggles (Shiggles) but I will play the odds, when it comes to putting distance between my family and starving.

I'm not always optimistic, but I could see the trends a couple weeks ago, and from what I can see, this virus something, that I should starve my family for.

I'm willing to make some concessions, for the greater good, but at some point, I believe we need to take our chances.

This thread has been owned by lunatics who only see a worst case scenario, they refuse to see any evidence, that doesn't support their positions.

Please get the fuck over your shit, and take in all of the facts.

Fact:

R0 6
Doesn't effect/ cause death for most young people
There is a chance of reinfection
Shutdown wasn't strong enough to do shit
50% of Iceland already infected
70% of Italy infected
Masks aren't perfect, but they help
FACTS FACTS FACTS


If we could please get this thread back to facts, and chat about how we're dealing with this, that would be great. Really getting tired of the we're all gonna die bullshit, when the evidence just isn't there.

My lady might have cancer and that's a fact. That's some real local doom for me. This virus on the other hand, hasn't produced those kind of facts.

The economic impacts from attempted containment could literally cause a billion people to starve to death. This is a fact, that this thread like to tiptoe around.

We're so worried about catching the sniffles, that we can't see the fucking doom right in front of our faces.


This virus had a chance, but it's not the end.
 Quoting: METELLYOUNOW


That is a lot of opinions, that you're calling facts, as you rant about wanting facts.

You can't go on and on that everyone has an opinion different from your opinions and then state that your opinions are facts without being called out on it.

It is not a fact that the Ro is 6.
It is not a fact that is doesn't effect/ cause death for most young people.
It is not a fact that there is a chance of reinfection.
It is not a fact that the shutdown wasn't strong enough to do shit.
It is not a fact that 50% of Iceland/70% of Italy is already infected.
It is not a fact that masks aren't perfect, but they help.
It is not a fact that billions will starve to death.
It is not a fact that this virus only gives you sniffles.

FACTS FACTS FACTS - None of those are FACTS! Those are opinions. I might agree with some of this, but they still aren't facts. In FACT, some of those statements are just restating what others have said - that you're calling "hysterical opinions."

You admonish others for not giving evidence, then give no evidence for your "opinions."

It sounds like if this isn't an ELE you're not here for it. Then you should probably quit reading this thread. Because the rest of us are still trying to figure out what it is. And as we do that, there ARE a lot of facts in this thread and a lot of people who have done a lot of work to get the facts. Part of the frustration is putting up with trolls - and wading through people who present opinions as facts. But one thing that is a FACT is that this thread has been helpful, and provided a lot of information you can't find anywhere else. If you're frustrated by having to scroll through to find the value, then don't add to what people have to scroll through.

I understand the frustration. We ALL have that frustration. It'd be nice if every post was telling us exactly what's going on. But the actual reality is, we don't have all of the facts yet; but we're trying to figure them out, just like you.
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Possibly of interest to other smokers.

Over-65s and obese people are more likely to be hospitalised with COVID-19 than cancer patients, research shows - as scientists uncover NO link between smoking and falling seriously ill
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The researchers said 'surprisingly' there was no association between smoking and an increased risk of falling seriously ill with the virus.
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Hello everyone! Hope you’re all staying safe!

Great thread as always! And to those complaining that people are making it like a chat, well we all need to share what we’re going through.

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Hi GLP family. Missed you guys and gals. Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is holding up.

I think we have another 3 weeks or so to go until the worst of this 1st wave is over.

Economic doom is right around the corner but hasn't taken hold yet.

If you don't know much about lead vs lag indicators of things, look into it.

- Jackal
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Welcome back, Jackal, good to "see" you.

Hope all is as well as it can be considering the circumstances.

Speaking for myself, you've been missed.
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Be safe! hf
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Made it back.

Report from HEB in a town a bit north of Houston:

Produce at about 80%, meats at about 60%.

Limits on eggs and bread; both at about 50%.

Coffee getting low, at about 40% -- THIS IS SOME BAD SHIT!!!!!!!!

Some flour, some sugar -- at about 25%.

Milk and other dairy stocked.

Sparse TP, limit of 2. I scored last family pack of Cottonelle, and another 6 pack of store brand, both mega rolls.

Cleaning supplies at about 25%. Very low on dishwasher detergent.

Wine and beer at about 80%.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


You are brave. But can also leave the kids at home. You have decon help. And y’all still drive.

I am sticking with my slow trickle amazon orders.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I noticed that the lowest is flour; you do not mention it, but yeast must be just as low, or lower, and without that you don't make acceptable bread.
Hope that you have a good reserve of flour and dry yeast; otherwise you can try to make it yourself.
You can translate this page:
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I have 3 pounds of yeast in the supplies. Did not even think to check the yeast at the store, but did notice they had baking soda, but only about 25% of normal.
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Hi GLP family. Missed you guys and gals. Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is holding up.

I think we have another 3 weeks or so to go until the worst of this 1st wave is over.

Economic doom is right around the corner but hasn't taken hold yet.

If you don't know much about lead vs lag indicators of things, look into it.

- Jackal
 Quoting: millenniumjackal


Hi Jackal!! hi

We were wondering about you last evening, and hoping all is well.
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Just the flu: Coronavirus Fatality Rate Lower than Expected, Close to Flu’s 0.1%

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As of March 3, mortality rate (not CFR) was estimated by WHO to be at 3.4%. ALL mortality rates bandied about by any organization, MSM, government agency, or as in the example cited above, a tabloid rag, are ESTIMATES, and will be for quite a long time. Know why? Because as long as their are people who are actively sick with the virus and cannot be considered either dead or recovered, the figures will be incorrect. Once you have a 0% active case rate, THEN you can perform an accurate mortality rate. You won't get that figure until late 2021 at the earliest.

And, I'll say this one more time for the obvious intellectually impaired in the back row:

NO ONE SHUTS DOWN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY OVER THE FLU, DUMBASS.
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But they would shut down the economy over an airborne disease that destroys T cells and reactivates like HIV. That's my newest theory anyway.
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Hi GLP family. Missed you guys and gals. Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is holding up.

I think we have another 3 weeks or so to go until the worst of this 1st wave is over.

Economic doom is right around the corner but hasn't taken hold yet.

If you don't know much about lead vs lag indicators of things, look into it.

- Jackal
 Quoting: millenniumjackal


I agree, the market move up, as of late, is entirely on hopium, and thus, on a fragile base.

I think the US, along with some other countries, will try to lift the restrictions. We will see a HUGE resurgence in cases mid to late May. In my humble estimation.
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Thank you. This is very helpful to many people. hf
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Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315
On the subject of lowered T-cells....

Most of the CoV mucus we're hearing about is either clear, white, or some terrifying brown, but not yellow or green.

Do you know what makes mucus yellow and green? T-cells. It's a sign that t-cells are fighting an infection.
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Different bacteria will change color of mucous...green is pseudomonas and yellow can be from e.coli or others

Viruses dont cause purulent secretions...hence it is clear...brown would be old blood from severe infection...white? Not sure...probably just normal and thick from being dried out from anhydrous ventilator oxygen
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As an aside, I have emphasyma.(Sp?) Doc told me coughing white, no problem. Coughing green, hit my emergency antibiotic.
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Sorry if this was posted already, first documentary from epoch times:



Haven't finished yet but so far its laying out everything to show why china is to blame. Seems good for ppl who haven't followed this thread from early on.
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There are a few productions coming together making the ‘Case Against China’ and discussing many of the red flags we have uncovered here. The guy who made the video below has nearly 1M subscribers, while Epoch Times has 143k. If you have an hour to clean, put this on in the background for a good refresher listen:

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So if this lives in water. Does that mean the rain can spread it?
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Raw sewage runoff could be scary.
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"You cannot withstand the storm"

the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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