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Well... I suppose everyone else in this thread must be dead from COVID.

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Still here, Wordy.

Needing a doom break, so just popping in to make sure all is calm.
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The cases in Texas are exploding... but wordy ignores all data that doesn't fit his view. Literally just two days ago he was using worldometer, but when it posted record- high numbers yesterday he called it bullshit.
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No they aren't. Have you looked at today's data? New cases down 50% from yesterday, and hospitalizations are down about 15%. This is directly from Worldometers, which lines up with the Texas website now.

Yesterday was a reporting hiccup.
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still a nothingburger
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In his family, it's the females that get erections.
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But long story long... no I don't think the second wave will manifest.
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Of course you would say that, given that you call the data bullshit...
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I went full openburger almost a month ago.

So far, I'm right.

Twist my statements all you want.

We'll see who's eating crow in a month.

crow2
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Be careful... those crows were watching you... way back when.

And yes, open it up. But don’t say we didn’t warn you. :)
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From what I can see, Gottlieb posted the data showing new hospitalizations. Whereas what you posted shows the total hospitalizations which will soon start rising again if the trend of new hospitalizations keeps up.
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Even his chart was inconclusive, to my eyes.

When it comes down to it, in my opinion current hospitalization levels were due to an initial outbreak that was orders of magnitude higher than reported numbers.

With current mitigation measures I feel that hospitalization numbers will drop below that of what you would see from seasonal flu.

That's already the case in NYC, which had one of the worst outbreaks in the world. They are actually lower than what they would see from the flu right now.

If we can hold at those levels, we can open society and live with the consequences of this bug.
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The thing is, while several states are now considered "open" there are still many people who aren't going out in public and doing the things they would normally be doing, visiting the places they would normally go to. Shit, even Atlanta is still under a "stay at home" order and yes that's in a state that is considered re-opened.

So yeah. It appears the new hospitalizations are starting to tick up again in state(s) which have only partially re-opened. (They aren't trending down at the very least). That's just pretty awful news because it doesn't look hopeful for being able to keep the covid under control if the re-openings are ramped up.

But that's just me.

damned
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The cases in Texas are exploding... but wordy ignores all data that doesn't fit his view. Literally just two days ago he was using worldometer, but when it posted record- high numbers yesterday he called it bullshit.
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You can disagree without being the backwash of a fatty's second hand douche.
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Well... I suppose everyone else in this thread must be dead from COVID.

At least I have my threads. Enough conspiracy threads to peruse for the rest of my life. And all the time in the world... time enough at last.

Here's June, July, August, September. Where to start... here we go...

*** clicks on thread, glasses fall off and break ***

That's... that's not fair. There was time now. THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!
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Still here, Wordy.

Needing a doom break, so just popping in to make sure all is calm.
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Super eerily calm. Just the spammin.

Oh and I our resident zero muncher.

Hope all is well on your homefront.
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An estimated 11% of businesses here will close by june 1st in nyc, de blasio said today that businesses should have no problem being shut down for a few more months, this guy is a clown and it looks like theyll start phase 1 of reopening in less than two weeks but that wont help much.
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First off, let me say that I hope you folks who think there will not be a second wave (or that it will be smaller than the initial one) are right, and that I am wrong.

We simply can't tell much from these data ... they're wrong in a number of different ways, rendering them somewhat meaningless.

My personal sense -- and it is based on a hunch as much as it is on science -- is that there will be second wave ... probably ramping up slowly at first as more and more states open, and then exploding in the fall when seasonal cold/flu strains hit and compromised people's immune systems. I think more and more people will stop being cautious, and that it will take a while for the numbers to reflect the real scale of the infection burden ... and it will hit us really hard.

Part of why I say this is that China is clamping down so hard for such a small number of reported new cases. They know a lot more about this pathogen/these pathogens than we do -- not only have they been living with the outbreak longer, it seems likely to me they have additional information about this being much worse long-term than anyone is saying.

I'll happily eat my words if I turn out to be wrong. I'd actually love for you guys to be correct on this one.
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Happy Graduation, Moniker!!! Congratulations!

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But long story long... no I don't think the second wave will manifest.
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Of course you would say that, given that you call the data bullshit...
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I went full openburger almost a month ago.

So far, I'm right.

Twist my statements all you want.

We'll see who's eating crow in a month.

:crow2:
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Wait. I thought you were hopeburger?
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An estimated 11% of businesses here will close by june 1st in nyc, de blasio said today that businesses should have no problem being shut down for a few more months, this guy is a clown and it looks like theyll start phase 1 of reopening in less than two weeks but that wont help much.
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We've had more exposure the past couple of months to the fact that so, so many politicians have never had a real job in their lives.

The result is we have stupid people making bad decisions about things they know nothing about. At every level of government in almost every situation.

Let's shut down the water utility, fire department, and police department and what the hell, the welfare department in NYC for a "few more months".

Shouldn't be a problem, right???
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Be careful... those crows were watching you... way back when.
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All thirteen of them. I call the big one bitey...

crow
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I went full openburger almost a month ago.
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Wait. I thought you were hopeburger?
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An openburger is like a double hopeburger... with cheese.
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Brazil jumps to world No. 2 in coronavirus cases, behind the U.S.
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Be careful... those crows were watching you... way back when.
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All thirteen of them. I call the big one bitey...

crow
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It’s gonna be runners and biters :p

I really feel bad for Brazil.
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I went full openburger almost a month ago.
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Wait. I thought you were hopeburger?
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An openburger is like a double hopeburger... with cheese.
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ha!.
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Well the yard areas which I had left for the woodland critters to hide in has just been resuburbanized just in case covid likes woodland critters.

Sharpening the “woodsman’s pal” made a world of difference. Now I see why it is so highly rated. It was so much fun to swing around I kept going and going until I actually got a good workout.

Tomorrow I’m going to sharpen my shovels and try to get to planting. The zucchinis from my 10 year old doom seed vault are already starting to flower under their led bulbs and the garlic cloves in a zip lock bag with damp soil have 2” roots on them already.

Hopefully the neighbors all go to their summer places so I don’t have to wear a mask.I always have to time things right because all of the lawn care people who work the area come from the next town where there are now 464 verified people with covid19.

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Be careful... those crows were watching you... way back when.
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All thirteen of them. I call the big one bitey...

:crow:
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An estimated 11% of businesses here will close by june 1st in nyc, de blasio said today that businesses should have no problem being shut down for a few more months, this guy is a clown and it looks like theyll start phase 1 of reopening in less than two weeks but that wont help much.
 Quoting: Gilberto de Piento




We've had more exposure the past couple of months to the fact that so, so many politicians have never had a real job in their lives.

The result is we have stupid people making bad decisions about things they know nothing about. At every level of government in almost every situation.

Let's shut down the water utility, fire department, and police department and what the hell, the welfare department in NYC for a "few more months".

Shouldn't be a problem, right???
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Been around for decades. This has been the biggest s...show of government incompetence (almost all 51 - fed and states) coupled with some usual malice (e.g., Cuomo in NY forcing C19 in nursing homes) I've ever seen.

I have some ideas why it's worse today than in the past, but they are very Un PC.

And then there's the large swath of the public that seems unable to apply common sense and to distinguish the "signal from the noise".
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First off, let me say that I hope you folks who think there will not be a second wave (or that it will be smaller than the initial one) are right, and that I am wrong.

We simply can't tell much from these data ... they're wrong in a number of different ways, rendering them somewhat meaningless.

My personal sense -- and it is based on a hunch as much as it is on science -- is that there will be second wave ... probably ramping up slowly at first as more and more states open, and then exploding in the fall when seasonal cold/flu strains hit and compromised people's immune systems. I think more and more people will stop being cautious, and that it will take a while for the numbers to reflect the real scale of the infection burden ... and it will hit us really hard.

Part of why I say this is that China is clamping down so hard for such a small number of reported new cases. They know a lot more about this pathogen/these pathogens than we do -- not only have they been living with the outbreak longer, it seems likely to me they have additional information about this being much worse long-term than anyone is saying.

I'll happily eat my words if I turn out to be wrong. I'd actually love for you guys to be correct on this one.
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Well... I suppose everyone else in this thread must be dead from COVID.

At least I have my threads. Enough conspiracy threads to peruse for the rest of my life. And all the time in the world... time enough at last.

Here's June, July, August, September. Where to start... here we go...

*** clicks on thread, glasses fall off and break ***

That's... that's not fair. There was time now. THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Still here, Wordy.

Needing a doom break, so just popping in to make sure all is calm.
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Hi LJS,

Hope you have a nice Memorial Day weekend. hf
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R0 graphs by state here:

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Report here:

[link to www.beckershospitalreview.com (secure)]

"Eleven states with fastest spread of COVID-19

"North Dakota — 1.02
"Minnesota — 1.01
"Alabama — 0.99
"Maine — 0.99
"Mississippi — 0.99
"Utah — 0.99
"Washington — 0.96
"Arkansas — 0.95
"Maryland — 0.95
"North Carolina — 0.95
"Wyoming — 0.95


"Eleven states with slowest spread of COVID-19

"Alaska — 0.67
"Vermont — 0.67
"Hawaii — 0.68
"Montana — .78
"Georgia — 0.83
"New York — 0.83
"Nevada — 0.84
"Connecticut — 0.85
"Missouri — 0.85
"South Carolina — 0.85
"Iowa — 0.86"


The COVID19 pandemic is in deceleration phase.

July fizzle.

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An estimated 11% of businesses here will close by june 1st in nyc, de blasio said today that businesses should have no problem being shut down for a few more months, this guy is a clown and it looks like theyll start phase 1 of reopening in less than two weeks but that wont help much.
 Quoting: Gilberto de Piento




We've had more exposure the past couple of months to the fact that so, so many politicians have never had a real job in their lives.

The result is we have stupid people making bad decisions about things they know nothing about. At every level of government in almost every situation.

Let's shut down the water utility, fire department, and police department and what the hell, the welfare department in NYC for a "few more months".

Shouldn't be a problem, right???
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De blasio like sanders is a sandinista, he is happy that more people are hungry lining up for food and more people less independent.
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An estimated 11% of businesses here will close by june 1st in nyc, de blasio said today that businesses should have no problem being shut down for a few more months, this guy is a clown and it looks like theyll start phase 1 of reopening in less than two weeks but that wont help much.
 Quoting: Gilberto de Piento




We've had more exposure the past couple of months to the fact that so, so many politicians have never had a real job in their lives.

The result is we have stupid people making bad decisions about things they know nothing about. At every level of government in almost every situation.

Let's shut down the water utility, fire department, and police department and what the hell, the welfare department in NYC for a "few more months".

Shouldn't be a problem, right???
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Been around for decades. This has been the biggest s...show of government incompetence (almost all 51 - fed and states) coupled with some usual malice (e.g., Cuomo in NY forcing C19 in nursing homes) I've ever seen.

I have some ideas why it's worse today than in the past, but they are very Un PC.

And then there's the large swath of the public that seems unable to apply common sense and to distinguish the "signal from the noise".
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Common sense is anything but common in my experience.

I see far too many people either elected or appointed by elected officials because either it would be "racist" not to do so or, in the case of appointments, they check off one or more "boxes" based on gender, sexual preference, race, or who knows what and said appointment has nothing at all to do with experience, accomplishment, knowledge, and experience.

Apparently we DO get the government we deserve...
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An estimated 11% of businesses here will close by june 1st in nyc, de blasio said today that businesses should have no problem being shut down for a few more months, this guy is a clown and it looks like theyll start phase 1 of reopening in less than two weeks but that wont help much.
 Quoting: Gilberto de Piento




We've had more exposure the past couple of months to the fact that so, so many politicians have never had a real job in their lives.

The result is we have stupid people making bad decisions about things they know nothing about. At every level of government in almost every situation.

Let's shut down the water utility, fire department, and police department and what the hell, the welfare department in NYC for a "few more months".

Shouldn't be a problem, right???
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


That’s what it looks like but the scarier thing, IMO, is that probably most of this is all coming from on high experts they rely on.

Something really big has got to be going on for things to be shaking out like this. We deserve to be told what it is.
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Well... I suppose everyone else in this thread must be dead from COVID.

At least I have my threads. Enough conspiracy threads to peruse for the rest of my life. And all the time in the world... time enough at last.

Here's June, July, August, September. Where to start... here we go...

*** clicks on thread, glasses fall off and break ***

That's... that's not fair. There was time now. THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Still here. I wouldn't be fortunate enough to get corona'd. Living a long miserable life seems to be my destiny. Just lost another friend today.
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R0 graphs by state here:

[link to rt.live (secure)]

Report here:

[link to www.beckershospitalreview.com (secure)]

"Eleven states with fastest spread of COVID-19

"North Dakota — 1.02
"Minnesota — 1.01
"Alabama — 0.99
"Maine — 0.99
"Mississippi — 0.99
"Utah — 0.99
"Washington — 0.96
"Arkansas — 0.95
"Maryland — 0.95
"North Carolina — 0.95
"Wyoming — 0.95


"Eleven states with slowest spread of COVID-19

"Alaska — 0.67
"Vermont — 0.67
"Hawaii — 0.68
"Montana — .78
"Georgia — 0.83
"New York — 0.83
"Nevada — 0.84
"Connecticut — 0.85
"Missouri — 0.85
"South Carolina — 0.85
"Iowa — 0.86"


The COVID19 pandemic is in deceleration phase.

July fizzle.
 Quoting: Scorpionica


Looks a lot different than I thought it would for Illinois.
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Also the energy here in nyc is pure despair, and the goal right now for the government is to drain the energy and bank accounts of the people and to get everybody to a point of depression. There is absolutely no way the economy gets back to where it was for many years even if somehow there was a real working vaccine. Here in nyc i think nearly all of us have gotten exposed as of now which is great if the antibody theory is true but i think it might not be true because of the reinfection data from china and the antibody levels diminish. The damage has been done, only worse thing that can happen is if the final rushed vaccine turns out to be useless and people still get infected. These are dark times unlike anything else in human history.
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Hello everyone!

Just popping in for a quick hi... On vacation this week so been working on the house... Wood siding all repaired and stairs on deck, gardens and greenhouse in order.

I hope you are all well and being safe... Take care and talk soon!

penguin
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Also the energy here in nyc is pure despair, and the goal right now for the government is to drain the energy and bank accounts of the people and to get everybody to a point of depression. There is absolutely no way the economy gets back to where it was for many years even if somehow there was a real working vaccine. Here in nyc i think nearly all of us have gotten exposed as of now which is great if the antibody theory is true but i think it might not be true because of the reinfection data from china and the antibody levels diminish. The damage has been done, only worse thing that can happen is if the final rushed vaccine turns out to be useless and people still get infected. These are dark times unlike anything else in human history.
 Quoting: Gilberto de Piento


Lord, the drama. I've lived through a fucking genocide and even I'm not that dramatic.
Wer war der Thor, wer Weiser, wer Bettler oder Kaiser? Ob arm, ob reich, im Tode gleich.

Silencing yourself and living in the dark just means you've left yourself exposed to the type of people who wander the dark looking for victims who won't scream.

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GLP